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into the crimea controversy. >> his first visit to crimea since his country annexed the region. >> his are visit condemned by nato and ukraine. >> doesn't belong to 21st century. >> reports of multiple deaths in southeastern ukraine. >> happened at the ukrainian military trying to take back from russian supporters. >> meeting face-to-face, since that fighting erupted five months ago. >> targeting sinctargeting civir ethnicity. >> our interagency team is hitting the ground. in. >> the nigerian security forces knew of the impending attack. >> before the abduction but failed to act immediately. >> there's no question we're racing against the clock here. >> we begin with horrifying
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problems in two african countries. be 30 days have passed since nearly 300 girls were abducted, not one victim has been found. agony is turning to anger and that age are grew friday when amnesty international reported that nigerian forces may have been able to prevent this from happens in the first place. >> the nigerian authorities including security forces were given advance warnings close to four hours before the abduction but filed act immediately to rescue the girls from abduction. >> meanwhile in the world's newest country south sudan, united nations investigators are reporting horrors on a massive scale. they are accusing both sides on a civil war of crimes against humanity. thousands have been killed, more than a million left homeless in just five months. for more we're joined from silver spring maryland by
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princeton lyman. former ambassador to nigeria and south africa. let's start with nigeria. the government has been criticized every which way for weeks now but now we've learned that they had a four hour heads up that boko haram was going to kidnap these girls. the excuse was they couldn't get enough security forces there? >> well it's indicative of a serious problem in the way the political system as a whole has responded to boko haram. the government's military forces are not well organized. there is not a clear plan for how to deal with the problem. and some of the soldiers are without support morale. but the most important thing in a campaign like this is, you depend on human credit intelligence. you depend on intelligence
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coming from people in the area. and the amnesty report shows they were getting such intelligence but were not organized to act on it. and that's a serious serious breach in dealing with this kinds of a problem. >> yeah and adding insult to injury boko haram killed 300 people this week in a town that was being used as a staging point for the rescue efforts. based in nigeria we give them tens of millions of dollars every year to support their military. is that money going owaste? >> most of the money we've gone to training the military has operations. there are some limitations on our assistance directly to the military, inside nigeria you have the leahy amendment and other restrictions and also the nigerian military are not always that receptive to advice from outside. so it's not been easy to give that kind of advice. but i think
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you'll see a division within the government haram. you have very broad based strategy laid out by the national security advisor, a kind of hearts and mind broad approach. but then you have a very strong military punitive approach being carried out in some of the areas which has alien ated much of the population. i think strategy is missing as well as good tactics and good intelligence on the ground. >> americans have become increasingly isolationist. but they say they want to help get the girls back. in three other countries not just nigeria. what is realistic to do, especially in this government that has had so many issues? >> it's going to be very difficult now. because it's over three weeks since they were kidnapped, undoubtedly broken up into
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smaller groups, a difficult terrain to follow even if you are using overhead technology. if you compare it to the efforts to get joseph koney the leader of the lord's resistance army, with 100 advisors, there with good intelligence it's difficult to locate him as he splits up in very small groups and moves around. i think the best we can do now is to improve their intelligence communications build up confidence but there's a fundamental problem going on in nigeria. that's a lack of national coming-together around this problem. it's gotten tied up too much in presidential politics, in north-south rivalry over who should be in charge of the country and i think that's inhibited in dealing with boko haram in a big way.
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>> you don't think we should put boots on the ground as we are the such for koney? >> i think it would be the kind of advice we're giving if they're willing to take it to improve their intelligence and organize their military units for this purpose, and to encourage them to reach out, to the population and gain more confidence, i think, those are the things that we can do. i don't think you can throw american soldiers into that terrain without the contacts with the people and the intelligence to do it for them. >> well, let's turn to another horrific situation that's not that far away in south sudan. the president there and the rebel leader who was his former vice president meet in ethiopia on friday. they signed a deal agreeing to a cease fire in what's been a very brutal civil war. i do warn viewers we'll be showing some video that's disturbing. ambassador 10,000 have been killed and a million displaced
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in a civil war that's only been going five months. is there any chance in this cease fire that this will work? >> it's a horrendous horrendous betrayal, whether the south sudanese got their credit independence in 2011. the possibility of a cease fire is a little bit better today. there was also a peace agreement with david youyou who was fighting the government. i'm not confident that just the two signing a cessation of hostilities agreement in itself is going to do it. i think now there has to be work on a forward-looking political process that gives enough incentive for all sides to really lay down their arms. >> the u.n. has accused both sides of crimes against humanity.
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mass killings. sexual slavery. gang rape. atrocities that have been carried out in homes hospital he mosques, churches even in u.n. compound. house can there be any deal, how can they move forward without accountability for this level of criminal activities -- activity? >> that's exactly right. you can't end this by the two principals signing a deal, there's part of the political process that has to go forward has to be a deep search, in south sudan society, about these problems of terrible crimes, and how you go about accountability. it isn't the first time we've had this kind of conflict in south sudan. and the issues of accountability have never been addressed. but it's not a simple one. you can't simply go out and say you are going ocensure or
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sanction every single person involved. you've got to get the central government involved and say how do we come to terms with this terrible history and how do we come up with a system of accountability and justice that also allows us to move forward on peace? >> it's two main tribes there killing each other in just three years after independence. as you said there was so much hope but is really a tragedy. be ambassador princeton lyman, thank you for being here. >> it's my pleasure thank you for covering it. >> russian president veurnt celebrated what he -- vladimir putin integrated away what he called togetherness. claim as many as 20 people were killed in bitter fighting as ukraine security forces took a police station away from pro-russian separatists.
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ignoring putin's position, separatist leaders insisted they will hold a referendum on autonomy on saturday. he triumphantly declared the return of crimea do russia as historic justice. >> this trip is provocative and unnecessary. crimea belongs to ukraine. and we don't recognize, of course, the illegal and illegitimate steps by russia in that regard. >> for more of the situation in ukraine and president putin's moves i'm joined by nina kucheva, associate professor of the graduate program of international affairs at the new schools . victory day, celebrations, the
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victory over the nazis in 1945. putin celebrated as we saw there in crimea but he also celebrated in moscow with a massive parade showing military force. this is something that brought back all sorts of memories of the old soviet union. does it worry you as you see this kind of show that we have this expansionist leader in the crim lynn? >> well -- kremlin? >> he has been celebrating this kind of parade for quite a while. he pulled the tanks and the rockets quite a few years ago. not the first time he celebrated it. >> this one is bigger than any other one. >> it is very big. we react exactly as you said. we have this militant and expansionist leader. we pay attention to rockets much more than we would have if they had bean problem began today show of force. i don't know what he can do with those rockets exactly but certainly giving this message
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don't mess with me because i can take anything i want. i have all this military hardware to go with it. >> and talk about messages sent he also went to crimea and virtually no one has acknowledged that crimea is a part of russia which is what he wants. he was sending a message with his appearance there, too. >> it's actually relevant to him. because i think the state department is speaking to half of the world and putin is speaking to another half, quarter of the world because the fact that the united states says it was unnecessary and inappropriate actually sounds like meddling which he hates most of all. because crimea voted. we now know it wasn't 95% as we were told but still 65, 70, a majority. >> a majority of a very small minority who voted. >> for him he wanted crimea the public vote and therefore he really feels that it's his job to show that unity he talks about and it's not the united
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states business to comment on that at all. >> talking about votes, he publicly said he didn't want this referendum omove forward on sunday which is a -- to move forward on sunday which is a vote for certain provinces to get more autonomy. do you think this is all putin's plan, that he says publicly that they shouldn't hold the referendum and then when these people say that they will then he can say oh i'm really not in control of them? >> i think there's a couple of scenarios going on. it is a plausible deniability for putin. in geneva last month, all parties were going to deescalate, knowledge pro-russian separatists, were not going to deescalate, the same thing happens now. he will say i'm not in control of these people, he can actually become a savior, he jumps on his white horse and comes in and
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says, i am not in control of these people but let's have an international community decision and for this, he expects to be forgiven for all the things that happen during the many months of the ukrainian crisis because i think the world community is interested in deescalation. and he can help to de-escalate but he will also have leverage in doing so. >> something else he said. he said he was pulling back the troops from the border of ukraine. all reports are from satellite images that he has not done it. why is he not doing it when he can be so easily disproven? >> those fighting for pro-russian, these are not russian at all, these are not russian force he these are be crimean forces, several months later we learn
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they are russian forces. he has fulling deny aibility. iability. he can have believability in the russian state. >> he is winning this crisis, along. before. what is his plan, is really ongoing winning? >> his big strategy is not, his strength not russia's strength aol altogether. stick it to the united states for five minutes that's good enough. i think his grand plan is that heefs going to have crimea as a basket case so nobody would want it as a buffer zone to the west of russia. whether he's in being technical kremlin for another ten years i don't know. that's his
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plan. >> slovyansk comparing the ukrainian government to fascists. there were nasty street battles. what do you think is going ohappen inside ukraine? do you really think putin can deescalate this? it seems like it's gotten very, very tough in a lot of places. >> that's the danger when you create a violent environment. violent environment gets ahead of you. we're russian he. we don't care about individual life. we care about general greatness. that's what he is achieving. for him it is more of a propaganda tool more than anything else. he can become part of the savior of this situation. then he enters into national community. sort of very similarly he did in syria when he was meddling
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meddling meddling in syria, suddenly he became the savior in chemical weapons in december with disarmament. i think he plans to enter in the back door by saving ukraine from its own destruction. >> eu saying it will strengthen its sanction he next week. his popularity is tremendous, even 80% but the economy is getting worse. >> it's not that visible, we talked about this on the program. i think the sanction he are very good too, precisely because they really destabilize the economy. and ultimately when people would have to stand in line for whatever basic needs they have to go, they need to go somewhere else for all th the things they so got used to. that's what's going oget him.
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that's why he's going to play two lands and speak from two sides of his mouth. >> and people keep dying in the ukraine. good to have you with us. >> thank you. >> fat chance. casting doubt on what foods are good for you and what aren't. a sheriff who spends most of his time our social media producer, hermela aregawi, tracking on the web. what's trending? >> gamers are upset what characters are not able to do in nintendo's alternate realities, i'll tell you come up. you can join the conversation @ajconsiderthis and our facebook >> i'm joe berlinger this is the system
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>> everything we've been told about food an ate for decades may be wrong -- and health for decades may be wrong? fatty foods cause cancer and foods high in greens can help, as for fruits and vegetables don't stop eating them but an expert reported there's no convincing evidence they help prevent cancer.
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i'm joined by abdul assaed. abdul, good to have you with us. as recent as 1997, a report that said, if we all ate a diet rich in fruits and vegetables we may cut our cancer risk by 20%. but it seems that is unraveling in all levels. >> important to put this in context. cancer is only the third leading cause of death in the united states. foods and disease they do hold strong when we look at things like stroke and heart disease, two top leading cause of death in the united states. that being said, we can think of why that is. the studies have gotten a lot better to tease apart the other behaviors that can cause the outcomes.
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when we look at the whole collective of the evidence, it's becoming pretty clear the relationships we thought we had aren't entirely there anymore. >> let's -- stick to cancer and beef. the cancer association talked about how mb anderson, big cancer center in houston, they had slabs of roast beef on the buffet. and one study that they had there showed if a 50-year-old man ate a third of a bound daily, his chance of getting colo-rectal cancer, his possibilities of rise would be a small percent. >> over the population, that means that there are a number of people that are
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getting col offerings-rectal cancer because of their beef consumption. but am i that extra person, right? and the be lieblg the you ca be b likelihood is no. >> maybe studies are saying that maybe butter isn't that bad and maybe red meat doesn't have anything to do with heart disease. what do you say? >> we do know that obesity last tripled over the last 30 years. we know that obesity is really the hub when we think about the top causes of death. stroke, cardiovascular disease and cancer. what's going oprevent obesity? what we do know is we used to
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take a silver bullet approach, if we just cut the carbs or the fat, that's ways of cutting calories. really the problem is we have an over-inflated caloric intake. whether you choose to take carbs out of the diet or fat or both. >> one of the things they talk about and i certainly am an example of a person who sort of looked at what they said, tried to change, i didn't do very well, i tried to do what they said, eat a little bit less red meat, ate pasta and carbs. have gotten more obese and gotten heavier. is that the meafnlg -- the message that carbs and sugar are the being bad parts? >> insulin has the general
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effects of telling to us store energy in the form of fat. that being said, the studies that have actually looked at populations and looked at weight loss whether somebody was to cut carbs or fats, over the long term the weight loss is the same whatever you cut. part of the problem is when we look at these studies, people are generally not very good at cutting one thing and not adding the other. number two they are not good at sustaining what it is they're planning on doing. the best approach is to try to cut both. but to very consistent -- >> cutting calories. >> cutting calories. when you are not eating extra carbs you're not eating extra fats. that's beyond the point. >> excess alcohol is one of the things that's the problem. >> we know that for sure, excess alcohol does increase the risk for a number of cancers. keeping up to one to two
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servings a day is probably most appropriate and we know that people who are excess drinkers whether that's a lot of -- you know a lot consistently or bing bing e drinking on the weekends -- >> and exercise is still good for you, unfortunately. good to have you. >> my pleasure. the justice and education departments issued a twoorng public school districts that they may be in violation of federal law if they bar students from school for not having immigration papers. but movement on comprehensive immigration reform appears to be a long way off. our next guest is forced to deal with it on adaily basis. he was featured on the al jazeera series, borderland, featuring people on all sides,
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as they track the path of people who have died crossing the border. the critically acclaimed series borderland concludes this weekend. sheriff glad do have you with us. in borderland. you brought the participants to the border fence and showed them where it ends. the policy these days is to funnel people with the fence to areas that are the harshest along the border in an attempt to dissuade people from crossing but it's not working. >> well, hello antonio and thanks for having me again. you're exactly correct when you say. the plan we're dealing with for border security on the southwest border is a 20-year-old plan from the '90s that has sealed things populated areas of the southwest border, when i say sealed, i mean they put the resources to staffing, the lighting, the cameras, et cetera, et cetera, on the
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populated areas. and to reroute them to the rural parts of the southwest border to include my county co cochise county. >> people are dying in greater newspapers now because of this policy, despite the fact that there hasn't been an increase in crossings. >> well the focus has been on those port of entries in the populated areas. so the rural parts where there has been less focus on by the federal government is where the disturbances are. which result in our citizens live in fear, it results in those attempting to look for a better life on the aspect they're dying out there and also the criminal element that comes across the border that are smuggling drugs and humans, breaking into homes, assaulting our u.s. citizens, they've conquered and overcome.
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they've done a pretty good job of that rough terrain. >> talking about that criminal element, drug cartels dominate the other side of the border. how have they done on your side of the county? >> well, it's become normal and i hate to say it like that. the fact that the cartel is very complex just south of our u.s. border. they run the operations. whether it be human smuggle, drug smuggling, fear on these drug trafficking routes and our folks who live on this border have come accustomed to not leave their property, be on their property armed and in fear that they may be assaulted and attacked and it's a different way ever life. >> the show in fact shows ranchers in southern arizona dealing with being armed all the time and suffered from all kinds of vandalism. what kind of issue, has there been a significant increase in crime as a result of this policy? >> yes, there has been.
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there y you think about humans are career churs of comfort. the normal routes they used to take 20 years ago, are not being used because of the security on the border. what they have done is day real parts of the desert, southwest border, they've made traffic and routes and conquered and overcome. the parts on the u.s. border, there are sheriffs that work on the southwest border from texas to california, our people are numb. they are looking for solution he, tired of the talk. looking for people to say let's redefine this plan of the '90s and continue on the plan and see if we can secure the rest of the border. >> the fact that the border patrol agents have doubled from can 8900 to 22,000, only a third of the number of arrests as we
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have had back then, why is that? >> well number one it goes back to the plan. the plan is to apply those staffing resources on those areas that have been targeted. el paso, san diego, yuma and the port of entry areas, rural parts don't have those areas, you don't have the resources to match that. of course your stats are going to be down. it's frustrating. the men and women of the customs department, have a very dangerous job, they are responsible for all law enforcement and their safety it's frustrating, it is. whether i get called at twow:00 in the morning, it's frustrating, it's very frustrating. >> a difficult job in a very dangerous why area, shair mark donels, i appreciate you joining
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us. how the participants changed through their credit experience, the show airs@9:00 eastern. hermella. >> nintendo is a target of a social media campaign, you can make your avatar do just about anything. play music, sports, fall in love and get married. bust what your avenue avatar can't do is marry another avatar of the same sex. on wednesday the company released this statement, ever the hashtag mi quality, after a term in the gaming world started to pick up steam after a gairm pressured t gairm -- gamer pressured the
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alternate reality. at this point it would be too difficult to change the design before its release. the company says we pledge if we create another installment in the tomo dachi experience, we'll strive to be more conclusive -- inclusive and better represents real life. nintendo must make a change as soon as possible. anthony sees it as a nonissue. he sees lots of real problems going on in the world and people are livid not being able to get hitched via wii? glrl why fought for its country during world war ii. plus mother's day turns 100 years old this year, but it had a festive beginning much different than it is today.
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children at work only on al jazeera america be. >> how did a mexican american community living on a dirt road in small town illinois give more men to fight and die in world war ii and korea, than any other area in the country? eight of them were killed in combat. >> a communities of immigrants working in fields and on the railroad expansion, these families faced startling racism and segregation but refused to have their lives defined by it. they were tail gunners, pilots paratroopers soldiers and more. fighting in
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jungles, mountains forests, three were heroes and they were sons. >> joining me from miami, is pulitzer prize winning author be, how one small mexican american community gave so much in are world war ii and korea. carlos, what made you write a book about it? >> it's funny antonio. it started with a passing comment. my boss said to me one day have you ever heard of a place called hero street? no. he said you ought to look into it. we should do a piece for magazine. we never did a piece in the magazine. but i was captivated. these are people who gave so much but i found it wasn't just a story about the past history.
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it seemed to be so relevant today. people who came from someplace else, just like all of us did, really, except for native americans, and who came here, just trying to make their way. and no matter how they were treated, when the moment came that they were called upon by this country, their country, they stood up to prove that they were a part of it and that they shouldn't be kept apart from it. >> it is captivating and i want to talk a little bit about the history. you don't think about that part of the world. this is the boonies in illinois over the border with iowa as being a center for immigrants. these people came in the early 20th century to work on the railroads. >> they did. the first ones were fleeing the mexican revolution because really you couldn't pick a side and be on the right side of things and you couldn't stay out of it and so they were escaping that and right there at the border they were being met by
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people from the railroad companies that were expanding so rapidly here, they needed the workers. and they say hey you want a job qumed and so yes they -- and so yes they put them on atrain and it was probably a lot colder than -- actually a few miles from where ronald reagan was born. >> they certainly didn't have a good life. many of them lived in box cars, in small shacks without running waters or electricity. called dirty mexicans in the streets. when you saw how much they sacrificed, why did so many choose to scriec sacrifice so mr their country? >> i wish we could say that stopped or it was different for them. it's a truly american story both with its beauty and with its warts.
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they wanted the same opportunities, the same cans he as everyone and the same respect. obviously they weren't getting it. when world wawr two came, it was their chance to earn their place as equals. >> one of them -- >> one of them won the silver star. >> 57 went to fight and one family sent seven children to war, another sent six. they served from the pacific to north africa to the alps, even after that they weren't allowed to be part of vfw in their community. >> even that they proved what their spirit was and their intention. you told the story so well. these guys, after a baseball game one sunday went to the vfw post, said we are veterans of
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foreign wars, can we join? the bartender said, i don't think so, you guys are plex cans. they had to form their own vfw post. interestingly enough, when that post was shutting down, they just lost the post, the ones who remained came over to this other, the mexican vfw post and the guys there said sure can you join, we're all veterans. >> it is a story how strong patriotism can be among immigrants who are grateful for what america gave them. these folks lived on second street. how did it become hero street? >> the efforts of a single man joe terranez. the story includes we were going through dynamic changes in the country. we were also going through civil rights movement was starting to
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groi. african americans came home from the war and said we did our part. they wanted something more on a level playing field. and so what happened joe terannez learned, he said boycotts are great but i think if we have voter rights drives, so he started doing same thing you see today. he would pay four their immigration photos help them so they could pass the test. as soon as they became citizens he raced them to where three could register to vote and little by little built up enough of a base to where he became the first hispanic al al derman i hispanic alderman ie state. he was able to get, but here is pacts. memorial day 1968.
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it was named hero street. it wasn't until four years later that it got the asphalt so it could be paved so it would not stop turning to mud when it rained. >> we have lost some of the best generations, some of the vet rams who helped you write this book sadly passed before three got to read it. >> i was lucky in the research however. there were millions of records lost in a fire but i was able to track down people, i found pilot and the bombbadier who were together. be one who stepped ashore at anzio, when joe gomez was wiping out that machine gun nest, that earned his him silver star. i talked to those people and able to preserve those stories. but you say the greatest generation was lost or is being lost. it's true we are losing veterans a thousand a day.
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but you go back to hero discreet and judge in the conversation one of these folks is related to these men is going to stop and say you know my granddaughter's in the navy and my nephew he was a career marine. so you see that same sense of this is our country. we're here and we're part of it and we're going odo our part. >> a powerful story it is. the book is ghosts of hero street. good for having you on the show. >> thank you very much for having me. >> spiderman, why is the of hollywood, turning to international movie makers to make a profit. >> on the next talk to al jazeera lawyer david boies gives surprising insight into his most historic case bush vs. gore and tells of his relentless fight for civil rights >> this is the defining issue today... >> talk to al jazeera
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>> today's dats data dive honors mothers. the 100th year that mother's day is an official holiday. it had its beginnings in the 1850s. ann reeves jarvis , focused on milk contamination. tended wounded soldiers on both sides of the civil war. jarvis 's daughter followed in her mother's footsteps. anna jarvis strongly opposed mother's day becoming a commercial holiday. the national retail federation survey reports 19.9 billion will go towards celebrating mothers
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this year. the average american adult will spend $163, down six bucks from last year. two-thirds of americans will get their moms flowers, spending $2.3 billion. four out of five will buy their moms greeting cards. in recent years tablets and smartphones were the most popular gifts. 43% of americans will get their moms gift cards. up 2% from last year. one in three will bring clothing and accessories. age range, 25 to 43 yearly olds. first time moms are getting older. a new federal survey found percentage of first time mothers who are between 35 and 44 has gone up five times since 1970. happy mother's day to all.
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coming up spiderman 2 is showing how hollywood block busters cannot survive without a there's more to financial news than the ups and downs of the dow. for instance, can fracking change what you pay for water each month? have you thought about how climate change can affect your grocery bill? can rare minerals in china affect your cell phone bill? or how a hospital in texas could drive up your healthcare premium? i'll make the connections from the news to your money real. ead.
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al jazeera america, take a new look at news. >> in the category of entertainment winners and losers, the spiderman spiderman franchise is showing signs of fatigue. the amazing spiderman ii, had not as large an impact as other spiderman movies. dr. dre, beats electronics, that makes very popular ear phones and recently launched a music streaming service. >> forbes list just changed. >> joining us now for more is al
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jazeera culture critic and former npr arts critic, let's start with spiderman, the new sequel made over $100 million in its first week domestically. that doesn't seem bad at all so what's the big deal? >> it's the big opening but the kind of opening as you need for a movie like this. as they say $100 million here $whiefn millio$100 million there, all of a sudden you're talking about real money. but worldwide the studios only get half of that money back into their coffers. all of a sudden, the movie has to gross $800 million worldwide. compared to the first spiderman, this is a very small opening, about half as big as the
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original spiderman ten, 12 years ago. >> some deal with the franchise but made $340 million, so clearly, if you look at these numbers the world market is becoming more important for hollywood than domestic market. >> it sure is. that's why we're seeing these movies get made. because the last spiderman didn't perform that well, and that's exactly where they're looking. the worldwide box office goes up four, five, 6%, the american domestic box office goes up 1% in a good year, but actual ticket sales are going down in american movie going box office and that's something you don't hear very often in the box office stories. >> we have an interesting chart to show you. in 2002, as you're saying the first spiderman mief was almost even in international and domestic sales.
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but 2012, that was 65.7% international, 35 % domestic. skyfall played more than 70% abroad. what does this mean if so much more money is coming from foreign markets, what does that mean for hollywood? >> it warps the perspective. we think movies are all about ourselves. the reason that adults tend to not like some of these big action movies and there are some exceptions like skyfall, which is a relatively adult movie. the concepts translate to foreign audiences and the language is strip ped down. it's not up to the sophistication that we would like to see in these blockbusters. >> other
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genres, ice déjà not do that -- ice age did not do that well in the united states but in international, is loild going to focus on movies that make a lot of money abroad? >> the answer is they already have been doing that over the last five, ten years and the companies that are making those grosses are being really, really smart and they see what side of the toast the butter is on and they're going that way. let's remember when we see these little charts we have to factor in inflation. while ice age and shrek have made a lot of money, enormous box office international champs but as you can say, the percentage of the money coming from overseas is growing year by year. >> talking about champs, the big win are of the week is credit
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dr. dre and jimmy iovene people probably know from american idol. apple apparently buying beats for an enormous ax of money, how much is apple wanting to ear phone head phone business which is doing well or is it more about the streaming, the online streaming music that beats has going and doing well where apple has sort of not done that well? question. this is a very odd purchase for apple. let's remember that apple makes in profits $3 billion about every month so it's not that big of a purchase from their point of view. on the other hand, apple is a company we look to innovate, and a company that has its own music streaming service. why are they spending $3 billion to buy a new one? that's why apple stock has dropped a little on the news.
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on the other hand, they may see numbers in the itunes store that makes then see what's to come. >> forbes says his net worth was $550 million. so as they were saying in that little individual joe we slowed earlier he will the first hip hop billionaire. bill wyman, it's always good to have you with the show may be over but the conversation continues. you can see us on twitter @ajconsiderthis. we'll see you next time. the stream is uniquely interactive television. in fact, we depend on you, your ideas, your concerns. >> all these folks are making a whole lot of money. >> you are one of the voices of this show. >> i think you've offended everyone with that kathy. >> hold on, there's some room to offend people, i'm here.
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