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o . >> this is al jazeera america, i'm david shuster with a look at today's top stories. in ukraine, a hail of deadly gun fire as men move to shut down a polling place. >> began to accommodated 800 million voters. a british airline says it will soon use drones to are inspect aircraft on the tarmac and in
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the hangar. and putting an end to torture and help the victims. >> we begin tonight in ukraine. it's been almost two months since crimea voted to leave the country. today, two other regions voted on increased autonomy. it took a violent turn when gunmen tried to break up the vote in one city. amateur video shows the moments shots were fired. take a look. [ gun shots ] the man you just
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saw in this video was tended to by the crowd but at least one person is believed to have decide, a pro-russian separatist. kyiv's government denies its forces were involved. journalist jo joann derika describes what happened. >> that happens a few times you know in a row. and then later on in the afternoon, there were four vans coming and they tried to get the guys inside out. and they were starting to shoot all around them. they were shooting at innocent people. i was there. nobody had a gun. the only thing they did was
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throw an ax and one stone. they were harmless and wanted to vote and they were shooting at them at the back. >> with no international observers or official electoral tally. it's impossible to know how they voted or who voted. in donetske, 95% voted in favor of more self rule. >> hastily arranged, apology stations in eastern ukraine. at issue, the question of whether the region should split from the rest of ukraine. the government has. >> terrorists back dits and killers to cover their activity by having citizens vote in
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donetske and luhansk. >> the people's republic of donetske, though how much autonomy the people's republic should have is vague. big crowds have turned out to vote. one question, a simple yes or no. the problem is there are multiple different interpretations of what exactly it means. >> translator: we want to live with russia in friendship says this man. this woman isn't entirely sure what she's voted for. i voted for our national republic, she says. >> translator: i want peace in this country. i don't want this horrible mess they created in kyiv in the maidan. a war, and it continues here.
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>> it isn't easy to find ovoice in opposition to -- a voition i- a voice in opposition to this. one man did talk to us. he didn't want to be identified. >> in general they have not understood what kind of a threat it poses and what can happen as a result. it appears russia doesn't want us and we are parting from ukraine. ahead, this region is headed for catastrophe. >> even in parts of the east racked by deadly violence in recent days like here in the port city of marioufel. the region will tip into the abyss, some people feel that has already happened. joe ah hull, al jazeera, donetske. >> the eu as well as the united states, the state department
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says it was an attempt to create further division and disorder in the country. kyiv described it as a disaster. kim vanel reports from the capitol. >> says the security service and the prosecutor-general has warned local councils, representatives there that they could be criminally liable for the reaction around the referendum. becoming polling stations, either they were threatened with the use of violence that's coming from justice minister. all the authorities in kyiv are calling this referendum illegal, they say it's illegitimate,ing in more than an attempt by terrorists to cover up their crimes. using the people in donetske and
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luhansk. prefilled ballot paper near slovyansk, the justice minister is saying. the eu says it will not recognize the volt. obviously authorities here in kyiv they say because this is illetting they are absolutely not going to recognize any outcome. it is fair to say that when these people and these do come out with their results, so-called results, that this will put pressure on authorities to destimulate the cries i considering in two weeks today -- cries crisis will be held. >> this time across the entire country. voters will be selecting a new president, projects fellow job fenning. whether they will be able to move forward with that vote.
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>> to the extent the kyiv government isn't able to exercise control or wher or infe over this country. an election across the country is very, very risky at this point. it's very hard to conceive of it being conducted in a conceivable way free and fair. this is what pp president putins long said and long called for. if kyiv government is not able to prevent the separatists from holding a referendum like this and you look at the kind of conditions they have there there is no condition to orchestrate an election in two weeks' time. >> the result of today's referendum to try to increase his influence in the region. the world's biggest exercise of democracy has come to a close. monday is the last day to vote
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in india. this was done to accommodate more than 800 million voters. narendra modi, religion has played a major role in these elections. for more on that analyst sarov roy in singh. talk about the role of religion and how it's playing out there. >> thank you. i think religion plays a quite important roll in india and for elections. when karl marx wrote, religion was the are are, sun which the hindu. worship and that of the ploalotusand the bow and arrow,e
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political party put the last supper as one of its electoral symbols, comparing that to jesus christ, it is clear that political leaders want to tap onto the fate of people so as to end cash on the wood bank. >> what do you think is the biggest issue that is riding on this election? is there one particular issue that could go either way depending on who wins this election? >> well, for a subcontinent like india which by itself if you look at it has so many different state and each state acts like a separate country there cannot be one policy that decides an entire election. one of them probably one of them would be secularism. i would imagine the country to be a divided on the base of religion, that is not happening as of now and so many divisions between the ruling party, as well as the opposition as well
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as their followers on the base you of casbaseitsbasisof religi. >> are the lines very long do people have to provide a number of identification to vote or sit a rather simple process? >> well, it's definitely not an easy process. voting in india can be very complicated and very confusing as well. and the cues that you talk about in america would probably take about another two, 300 years in india to understand that electoral process and suffrage can take place in a civic decent matter. and having said that i don't deride or decry at a indian are basis, but there is not a
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disciplined electoral suffrage. the other part of india, i would like to compare it to the particles you see through sun sunlight. when you see through sunlight you see millions of dust particles all going helter skelter, but india look to me as. >> and finally in the united states we're so used to very long political campaigns. how long has this been going on since the polls? >> political campaigns are not just restricted to the elections. they are an ongoing process. for example, if anything, taps on to faith or religion let's say that the opposition right now, the opposition party which wants to come into power has been promising the promised land of the days of the ramaiana, or the lord rama has been promising
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templess in places of mosks. these are things -- mosques, so campaigning is not necessarily restricted to the time period of the electoral campaigning process. >> surof roy, thanks so much for joining us we appreciate it. >> thank you. >> bring back our girls now! >> in nigeria, people continue to pressure the government there to bring back their daughters. 276 school girls were kidnapped by boko haram. the government says it is looking to find them. president goodluck jonathan says he has been trying, and praying for girls. are more from the capitol of abuja. >> still praying for their safe relief.
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catholic church called on its congregations to hold special prayers. at the holy rosary in abuja. >> it's important to pray for girls. after exploring all options, the government is trying to make attempts to rescue the girls, we also need to go through ritual. >> the nigerian catholic church has asked, all nigerians irrespective of their faith, to pray. worshipers have been praying for girls after every scripture class. the governor out of the predominantly muslim state called for three days of fasting. >> this has brought a sense of unity, solidarity, togetherness regardless of people's faith, people's tribe and people's peos
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geographical position. >> technical and law enforcement experts from the united states and britain to assist nigerian authorities. but they need to keep the pressure going. they want to make sure the government does not relent until the search and rescue can efforts final credit gain results. >> a car bomb went off around lunch time bringing down the building. a civilian cook was killed and 15 people were injured. police say the bomber argued with officers to attract more victims before detonating the explosives. officials believe it was retaliation for al qaeda fighters who have been under attack for the yemeni army. >> suicide bomber drove a car packed with explosives into the building of the military police killing 11 soldiers and injuring 18 people.
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part of that building was destroyed and search is underway for people buried under the rubble. there has been no claim for responsibility so far but many people feel any group with that capability to launch that attack is al qaeda in the aarabian peninsula. many attacks in that same area in 2002, it launched a spectacular attack against a french oil tanker in 2009 and it killed tourists in the area and many, many attacks against security forces in that same area. that attack came hours after an attack here in the capitol, in a military checkpoint year the presidential palace. we are talking about basically an area that is supposed to be secure. not far from there is also the headquarters of the intelligence and people are pretty much
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concerned about al qaeda taking the fighting into the heart of the capitol. >> new details on the train that thousands of immigrants use to get to the u.s. border, we'll explain why it's getting tougher for them to ride the beast. torture many the in department sunday segment, the week ahead, plus. kevin. >> and over 2 dozen tornadoes touched down across the plain. the threat is diminishing but we'll still have lots to talk about when we return right after this. come here... >>...most ridiculous thing i've
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heard in my life >> tested by hard lived truths... >> these migrants are being exploited >> beyond borderland... only on al jazeera america
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>> our current system has gone very far awry... >> there's huge pressure on the police to arrest and find somebody guilty >> i think the system is going to fail a lot of other people. >> you convicted the wrong person >> i find that extraordinarily disappointing... >> to keep me from going to jail, i needed to cooperate. >> somebody can put you in a death chamber >> it's not a joke >> the system with joe beringer only on al jazeera america >> some nasty weather has moved into the northwest. kevin corriveau is here with the weather kevin. >> storms moving through and not over yet. in nebraska specifically we've
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seen 17th tornadoes that's the preliminary count but all in all we have seen about 26 tornadoes moving across the area. you can see here just to the west of omaha right there, they did have some tornado warnings in effect. that has ended. now we're going to be watching that area here, we watch this very carefully for event of any more severe weather. we do have tornado warnings in effect for parts of iowa where that bow was, over the next several hours, it's not over yet. we will see this continue, we may be getting to 30, 32 tornadoes before the evening is through. kansas city, oklahoma, more of a severe threat, hail lightning dangerous winds as well. i'm going to take you to tomorrow, we are going to see some severe weather, edging to parts of wisconsin, all the way down to arkansas. shouldn't be like anything we
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saw today, but if you are traveling it could be risky on the roads. here towards the south, even though we've had snow up here towards the north that is going to continue up here. higher elevation, rockies another foot of snow is predicted. temperatures are coming down but we are going to see some of our warmest temperatures, reaching up to the 90s los angeles by the time we begin say tuesday. >> that's a big fire hazard. kevin corriveau, thank you. ef 2 tornado, national weather service confirms touched down, tornado part of a supercell storm that formed over the kansas city mech metropolitn area, schools will be closed tomorrow and tuesday. and while much of the country enjoyed a warm spring day, as kevin was pointing out, some were cold and covered with snow today. by the time the snow is over
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this morning denver is expected to get three to five inches and others up to 18. 150 mile stretch of interstate 80 was closed due to the snow tomorrow. two people suffered minor injuries when a house blew up. caused by a natural gas leak. a firefighter was injured. a train featured in our groundbreaking documentary borderland is making news today. the notorious train nicknamed the beast is now banning migrants from riding in order to reach the united states. each year thousands of central americans ride the beast through mexico. the ban has left thousands stranded for weeks. some people have offered help for years. adam rainy has more in vera
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cruz, mec mexico. >> this train carries them north to the border. their leader norma rom romero, s for the train, known as the beast, that carries migrants from central america to mexico. back at the shelter she asks new arrivals why they left home. >> i left honduras bass there's no work there. my children couldn't even go to school. one of my sons has already been killed. >> that's why he brought his youngest son on this journey. like cownllike countless otherst her family back in guatemala. >> all i could do is give them my heart.
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>> ma offers them help in the only way she can. offering them a home cooked meal. >> it doesn't matter where they are from. they need to eat, and leaving their family is not easy. >> norma's finally gained support from those in power. mexico's are president recently awarded them for helping migrants. >> they could easily get abused, they get thrown off the train, sometime die that way. >> a long day of preparation. only have a few moments to pack the food and toss it to hungry migrants riding the rails. when a full train finally comes the work is fast and dangerous. miemigrants on board feel a rusf excitement. >> this day like every other day
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the paternas come out to give food to hundreds of migrants. but increasingly many migrants aren't getting on the trains because it has become so dangerous. some are walk on the highways. >> some are walking in the train's wake. they saw migrants tossed off the beast and have been walking the rails ever since. they hope to reach the u.s. some day. adam rainy al jazeera, vera cruz, mexico. >> a program note, a special issue of borderland, 12 a.m. even, 9:00 p.m. pacific on al jazeera america. they are the words a traveler in a hurry, love to hear. flight attendants, prepare for
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takeoff. but first, they need to pass a safety inspection. >> armed with lasers and high definition cameras, this remote control drone could change the way aircraft inspections are done. any marks or damage are referred the engineers for them to check. the technique is being tested as an alternative to fully slower manual inspections,. >> they take many, many hours to cover an aircraft of this size and we believe the drone and the drone technology can speed that up dramatically. >> reporter: the drones are currently operated by a pilot. but there are plans to make them computer-controlled. this will make the inspections more methodology and easy to -- methodical. >> quite pieces of
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infrastructure. quite the possibility of comploitation of drones with for that task is a really big opportunity. >> there is also growing technology for these, virtual reality glasses. they allow engineers perhaps in another location to see and possibly diagnose problems from a distance, in real time. >> up close and personal with the aircraft on the ground. the nooks and crannies bits and pieces of the aircraft that perhaps visual inspection might miss. for that reason i'm positive that this is a really good thing. >> the drones could be part of the potential inspection of aircraft as early as flex year. if they are, the airlines will have to ensure the confidence of its passengers. >> terek basley.
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>> welcome back to al jazeera america. i'm david shuster. here is a look at our top stories right now. in eastern ukraine, a gun fight erupted on the vote for secession. one voting location shut down. nearly 90% of the voters have opted for self-rule. meanwhile the state department says the referendum is illegal. nearly a month after 276 school girls were an up-to-date deducted, optimistic and encouraged by international help
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but u.s. secretary of the defense chuck hagel says it will be difficult to recover the girls. involved in an ongoing campaign to wipe out al qaeda. it is time for our regular look at the week ahead. global report on torture, despite universal condemnation of torture many are subjected to it and many survivors have to struggle to overcome the trauma. we begin with this report from courtney keely. >> sing to celebrate their bond after ten weeks of counseling and therapy the center in nairobi, kenya. the refrain, don't lose hope stand firm and stand against
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torture. they continue to meet as tmentumeni support group. tumeni means support in swahili. >> these are plawses of hope. >> kurt oversees the centers in the u.s., africa and the middle east. >> survivors and victims of torture are able to rebuild and recover. >> experts say torture is still being carried out in more than 100 countries. >> there's no category that's spared. there are men, women and unfortunately and especially in the case of syria i think, increasingly children. more than half of the torture survivors, survivors from syria are children now. so not even -- even kids are spared. >> we were were granted an interview with the survivor who has political asylum and is
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studying to be a scientist. but he feared being on camera even in shadow, tipping off security officials back home who would go back to his family. >> the purpose of torture is really to dismantle the person both physically, lose trust in
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themselves, in humanity in general. >> reporter: it is estimated there are 50,000 survivors of torture currently living in the u.s. but only 5,000 to 6,000 people receive treatment annually in these centers. courtney keely, al jazeera, new york. >> as we mentioned amnesty international is releasing a report on tuesday detailing the use of torture around the world. western nation are among those under scrutiny. president obama is under fire for not closing down the center at guantanamo bay, but congress imposed restrictions that made closing down the center much more difficult. outlining the agency's secret interrogation programs and manfred novak, a former un
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rapportor on can torture, we started asking how pervasive torture is around the world. >> there are over 100 countries listed in amnesty's report as torture regimes. the american position on torture is the united states has long been a strong advocate against torture. our state department publishes an annual human rights report which details the practices of torture but unfortunately because of the u.s.'s own post-9/11 detention and interrogation program we have ourselves come unscrutiny for our policies and we have been unable to influence conduct of other government. >> you mention the united nations convention against torture, many of these nation he use torture techniques to punish
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and intimidate victims. >> when i was a u.n. special arbiter on torture, i visited 18 countries on official mission, so in 19%, 17 of the 18 countries i did find torture and this was a fairly good sample. so not only the worst countries. from all regions of the world, democratic cubs and dictatorships and big and small countries. so i think it is a fairly representative sample. so it means in about 90% of the countries there is some torture often isolated cases. but definitely more than half of the countries of the world tor torture is a serious problem, widely practiced, sometimes systematically practices. >> other than president obama saying we're going to stop the
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practice, certain black sites around the world, what's changed? >> well i think that the worst period of torture post 9/11 was 2001 through 2005. and a lot of the worst abuses were at least brought under control, partly or almost entirely because there was enormous dissent inside the military and the agencies, still secret practices as far as we knew yet inside there was an enormous movement in all of the services to bring these practices back into compliance with international standards. for that reason, we have quite a huge international record that establishes what techniques are used and how they violated the principles and norms. in a sense they were brought under control in 2005, the problem is we have had no accountability process to reflect on what was done and to do what the law requires which is bring to -- to hold
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responsible those who carried out these programs and provide some kind of restitution to the victims. and we have not done that at all. >> so in the obama administration, decide we will knot go after anybody in the bush administration or the cia? >> that was a mistake. we need to settle whether or not this was torture whether or not this was effective, the whole back and forth between the senate intelligence committee and the cia, that report is about, will establish quite clearly for american people not only what was done but the fact that it was not effective in the way that the government has continued to say torture was effective in eliciting threat-preventing information or threat ameliorating information. >> i want to put up a graphic that explains to our viewers a
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little bit what it is. last month the senate voted to declassify the cia's interrogation programs. the 480 page program includes findings five years into the detainees, cia officials say senate staffers obtained documents that were not cleared for release. the review, i suppose larry you think the state department says are release it. >> this is already public at least in redacted form from declassified government documents. it's not possible for the united states to say it didn't violate the international convention on torture. many people have spoken very pliblg. milkily. >> whether it's for ordinary
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prisoners in the united states, a lot ever countries use request solitary confinement. when does it become torture? >> of course that becomes a very difficult question. we have cases where people are kept for three years in solitary confinement. this is considered to be torture. for a short period of time for instance in pretrial detention if you need to keep people apart because it is a gang you arrested and you want to find the everyday for a short period of time solitary confinement may be legal and necessary for the criminal investigation. but prolonged form of torture, prolonged form of solitary confinement, until you actually confess to the crime or you provide me with the information that i would like to hear from you. then of course, this becomes a torture because it is for the
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purpose ever extracting information. so we -- of extracting information. but we have to establish what i know from ordinary u.s. prisons, in particular maximum security u.s. prisons, inmates are kept in solitary confinement for far too long. >> looking ahead the amnesty international report comes out on tuesday. what do you expect the impact to be? >> it is enormously important. it should be a gut check for the u.s. we need to reclaim the leadership position because we are influential. we should do accounting in our own country for what we have done. there has been a solitary confinement example, it is a good one. in the united states has been kind of degradation with our
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sense of humanity, it is that belief that underpins the torture conventions and all ever our, every human being has a right to a minimum standard of humane treatment. if we need to look at the conduct we have exceeded those boundaries do what the law requires, provide restitution for those people and then begin to address one another more humanely in the united states as well. >> a fascinating conversation, so glad having you on tonight, we appreciate you being with us. thank you. events coming up. monday marks the last day of voting in india. dedication held for 9/11 memorial museum at ground zero. and saturday is the puerto rico.
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a woman's moving story is next. lives of the people involved. >> i didn't go back to the person that i was before i left... >> an emotional borderland reunion >> this trip was personal to me... this is real... >> long held beliefs >>...illegal in mexico too.. >> learn the language! come here... >>...most ridiculous thing i've heard in my life >> tested by hard lived truths... >> these migrants are being exploited >> beyond borderland... only on al jazeera america
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>> al jazeera arabic correspondent abdullah al shami has been on a hunger strike for 112 days. asked to transfer to a hospital in 48 hours. health is failing.
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shaban said says his client may die if he's not given immediate health. >> during a visit he was incoherent and the things he said didn't make sense. he also fainted and was unconscious. his mother called to confirm people saw him in that state. i saw pictures after he lost weight. >> three other al jazeera journalists also continue to be held in egypt. for 135 days, baher mohamed, peter greste and mohamed fahmy, have been held. al jazeera is demanding their immediate release. government and rebels are blaming each other for violence.
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clashes in the northern town of bentu. fighting the government since december. both sides agreed to the cease fire friday after meeting face-to-face in ee ethiopia. south sudan gained independence in 2011 after decades of fighting. thousands of orphaned children fled during the '80s and '90s. they came to be known as the lost boys and girls. sell of them made it all the way to the united states. carol mckinley has the report. >> i ran from south sudan from the civil war and i was a refugee in nairobi. >> this is the first time her relatives and friends have been together since they fled more than 20 years ago. some have traveled thousands of
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miles for this reunion. >> you know we have in sudan we say mountains will never meet but humans will always meet even if it's like hundred years. >> over a decade of civil war, tens of thousands of sudanese children ended up as outcasts in refugee camps. they were dubbed the lost boys and girls. at six years of age cecilia seamed bound for slavery. >> if you don't have parents, it's so hard for you to go to school. because these people want you to have stuff like cleaning, because these kids don't have parents. they can give you away for marriage, and get bride price. >> but cecilia is an independent
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woman with a college degree, thanks to debra bronstein. inspired by the narrative of exodus she persuaded her congregation to adopt these. >> there is a mitzva that is obligatory to adopt them. >> three others are receiving a degree at the university of colorado. she has her own family now with her husband, who was a lost boy and a brand-new master's in education. mcleana hopes to start a girl's school in south sudan. the land is already bought and waiting for the lost girl to come home.
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carol mckinley, al jazeera, boulder. >> at least 40 people are dead after a boat carrying migrants sank off the coast of south africa. libya says the bottom of the boat gave way, dozens are still missing. in china heavy rains are wreak havoc in some regions. government has relocated tens of thousands of people to try and get them to safety. motorcycle riders in australia are challenging new anti-gang laws. members of so-called bikie gains have said they were unfairly targeted. they are going to court for the right to ride together. andrew thomas reports. >> riding as a group they can seem intimidating. and australia's politicians and
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police say people are right to be scared of bikeie gans. bikie gangs. organized crime, drug dealing, extortion, even murder. >> hi, thanks very much for letting us come along. >> but bikie gangs are striking back. they are not criminals merely motor bike enthusiasts they say and now they are the victims. >> we are very selective as to who we talk to and who we let into our club. >> bikies are nighing what infringe on their civil rights, including 15 years in prison for any crime in the eyes of police is gang related. in the neighboring state of queensland it will now be illegal because the new rules there ban more than two club members being in the same place
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in the same time. >> australians are really quick to condemn others for human rights abuses but what they're doing to us right now isn't much different, isn't much different at all. if we haven't committed a crime why can't we say so? >> legal cases take months. >> the government indicated very early on in the piece that even if these laws were unconstitutional they don't care. they'll do enough damage in the meantime before these laws get knocked out by the high courts. >> police are unapologetic. bikies they say are criminals and along convenesland's gold coast did the violence associated with them is getting worse. >> the intimidation efers,s, exn and harassment are a criminal men as to the community.
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>> they say they are not menace, others are. high court is asked whether australia's constitution agrees whether the laws are legality. andrew thomas, sid i any. >> latin america's busiest airport has a new terminal. authorities opened it to handle the expected traffic spikes through the games. 36 thousand pass through the terminal, the new terminal is expected to accommodate another 12th,000. >> the stadium hosting game 1 was officially opened this week. questions whether brazil will be ready for large crowds. yesterday residents of credit
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rio drio dejaneiro, money is bet building the new stadiums.. >> still ahead on al jazeera america. specialty shops targeting foodies. the fab foods that world class chefs are cook up.
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>> one of the university of connecticut's graduation speakers couldn't make it to the ceremony this year but he had a good reason. he's up in space. >> i helped build the international space station. i launched on a russian soyeuz rocket and now i'm working in earth orbit. >> international space station, he told becoming one of the you know, astronauts one of the
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u.s.'s astronauts took determination. special foods and creating culinary excitement in a city where it can be tough to grab people's attention. al jazeera am kaylynn ford reports. >> the line snakes around the block. hundreds of people waiting for a chance to taste this. the flaky doughnut croissant maker. >> you have 100 to 200 people per morning. >> ansel makes only 300 per day and sells out by lunch. the credit treats are a sweet business. >> we bearl barely had enough my for food. >> ansel is cashing in on special cuisine. it is a change market vanessa
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wong has watched closely. >> food among can millennials, interest if learning more about their food in general. >> imami burger, flocks to taste their secret sauce. enough to eat at a different one every day for 12 years. so for restaurateurs, there's stiff competition. >> alisa and her husband left careers on wall street last year to give it a try. >> there's not a day that goes by that i'm not sweating heart palpitating, i go out on deliveries, you have to go out. >> their mini bagels, with cream
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cheese have really cut on. embraced by foodies like this couple. who traveled 60 miles to take a food tour here. and for chefs that are able to hit that hard to define sweet spot, success tastes pretty good too. kay lynn ford, al jazeera, new york. >> the was washington monument s been closed for nearly three years. it needed repairs after an earthquake struck three years ago. new exhibits at the top of the monument. that does it for us. stay tuned for part 2 of borderland. the cast members are reuniting.
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are go to the website at aljazeera.com. we'll have more news tonight and early tomorrow morning. thanks for joining us everybody, have a great night. >> announcer: coming up on "beyond "borderland"", these are people coming to work with us, not against us, but with us. >> if you are an ilimmigrant, you are -- illegal immigrant, you are essentially committing a crime. >> we need a system that works. >> this is a business. these migrants through this process are being exploited.