big changes ahead for u.s. troops in avering. critics -- afghanistan, critics say it will leave a bigger mess behind that could affect our homeland security. days after the presidential election in ukraine, things take a turn for the worst a proposal linking mental health and gunns an ivy league student reports a sexual assault.

the school agrees it happened but does virtually nothing. hello, i'm antonio mora, this is "consider this." here is more on what is ahead. >> seven are dead after an overnight shooting spree. >> the shooting is likely to reignite the debate over gun control. >> we need to make sure mentally ill, young, old, middle-aged people do not buy weapons. >> too many have died. we should say to ourselves - not one more. >> in slovyansk, the slighting is fierce. >> pro-russian rebels report heavy losses. >> ukraine's incoming president vows to bring piece. >> the election was held despite threats of violence. >> the turn out was impressive considering the circumstances. >> it's the longest u.s. law. >> we had nearly 180,000 troops in harm's way. >> 284,000 americans died there. >> we will no longer control

african cities or towns. >> by the end of this year we have less than 10,000. >> we begin with an announcement on tuesday that president obama intend to withdraw troops from afghanistan by the end of 2016. under the plan the u.s. would reduce troop levels from 32,000 to 9800 by the end of the year. the remaining troops will be tasked with training forces and supporting counterterrorism operations against the remnants of al qaeda. speaking in the rose garden palmer stressed the need for afghans to take responsibility for their own country. >> americans have learnt that it's harder to end wars than it is to begin them. this is how wars end in the 21st century, not through signing ceremonies, but transition to governments, security forces

trained to take the lead and full responsibility. >> joining me from washington d.c. is ambassador kurt volker search from 2008-2009 as an ambassador. were you surprised at all by anything the president announced today? >> not really. this is where we thought things were heading. something in the neighbourhood of 10,000 troops. this is the president putting his imprint on a plan. it announces an end to combat operations and a withdrawal plan that he wants to get all u.s. forces out there by the end of 2015. that is not unexpected. what i think is positive here is the high number. after the transition, after the 2014 elections there'll be a number close to 10,000 american

troops and n.a.t.o. troops that will remain there. what is disappointing is we are announcing the end state. as with the withdrawals earlier on, we are signalling to those in afghanistan, those that want to change the status quo, that they have a timeline to work with. senators said: the bilateral security agreement that hamid karzai has not signed - it sort of had an indefinite date about when american troops withdraw, and the expectation was that it would be the next decade. how big a mistake do you think it is to set the final date. >> i think it is a big mistake.

the important thing is that the outcome in afghanistan, and you can't know with certainty, is it going to be six months, 18 months - will it take two years? you can't know. the more you set a limit on the willingness to engage that, is a signal to your adversaries that all you have to do is play it out. i do think the deadlines and the arbitrary numbers are a mistake. >> beyond what it means for afghanistan, what does it mean for the united states. polls show that the american public is tired. is pulling troops out the right thing for american security in the long run. we have 10 bases. we fly drones out, how will it affect american security. >> in the short run we will not see a big impact. there's a conflict to be weighed

inside of afghanistan. the taliban has not taken power, they'll try to do so, the government will try to maintain stability. there's time to play out. the bigger worry is the world sees the united states that is in retreat, that doesn't have the will to engage and seeing things through. they see territories become more unstable, they see bad actors, bad forces, trying to fill the vacuum that we leave behind. in the long run it spells trouble for american security. some say this is a triumph for the taliban, it will come back in strength, there's a concern, they have to wait out the american troops leaving of the those staying will be charged with training african forces, supporting counterterrorism operations and by all reports the afghans are strong fighters. other people think that the

taliban and pretty much down and out. do you think it's that big of a deal, that afghanistan will - could fall apart again? >> i think it's a big deal. the point is that we shouldn't take the risk. i agree with the strategy. the strategy of governance, security forces, of continuing training, going after the terrorists. that's the right strategy. we should pursue that until it is successful, rather than to a date in the future when we pull back. the risk is over the past year that the taliban launched a number of successful attacks, killed a lot of security forces and they don't have the equipment and training we would like them to have. they don't have air support. i think that we are going to see a period where it's very much in balance, the afghan security forces - are they able to control the territory or not. i don't think it's a risk we should take. >> "the washington post" quotes

an afghanistan battalion commander saying "obama said this week that he'd leave afghanistan in a responsible way, leaving in 2016 is not responsible." a lot of debate over the end date. a final question - not directly related. while the president was in afghanistan over the weekend, the white house accidentally revealed the name of the c.i.a. station chief in afghanistan. beyond that being a terrible embarrassment for the white house, what is the impact? >> i think it will make it impossible for that individual to condition in the same functions that he had been performs up to that point. you need the veil of deny ability, secrecy to do the business. i think his cover is blown and he'll have to be put no another position and we'll have to find some other way to do the same business that needs to be done. >> ambassador kurt volker, good

to have your ipp sites moving on to the crisis in ukraine. government officials insisted they were in control of the donetsk airport on tuesday after war planes and paratroopers battled separatists. separatist leaders claimed more than 50 of their fighters were killed. the fighting began on monday, a day after petero poroshenko was elected the president. he later promised to crush the revolt, not in months, in hours. >> we will defend and bring the piece with him, and including the fighting against terror, one of the main function of the state defending the people. >> while russian president joout vein insisted that it must stop. kiev had washington support. >> ukranian authorities have

rites to take steps to maintain calm and order. >> for more i was joined by an executive board member of the ukranian congress committee of america and a representative of the ukrainian world congress and served as a monitor in the elections. we have to start with the voms in the east. pro -- violence in the east. pro-russian separatists tried to take control of an airport informant east. government forces overwhelmed them. dozens were dead. more pro-russian separatists dead in other clashes. is the government taking control. >> absolutely. i think what we see today, a day after the presidential election is, in fact, the newly elected president. we know it's a victory by a landslide. he is involved in discussions with the current prime minister. in terms of having a strong

hand. i believe the new government of ukraine wants to show russia and the world that they want to do what is takes, meaning taking on the terrorist operations. i'm confused that i use the word terrorist. at this point we see armoured personnel carriers and vehicles. we are at a point where it is almost at the level of a war. and in that case it's not so much terror. >>, but looking at the -- terrorism, but looking at the country opposite us. >> petero poroshenko, the newly elected president has been quoted saying he will not allow eastern ukraine to become a somalia, and that the operation against the rebels should not last months, but hours. will he take a hard line, is that supported by most ukrainians. >> absolutely, there's a great outpouring of support for the ukranian army, built from the ground up since the fateful day.

what we are seeing now is a military massed on the ukranian borders in numbers that vladimir putin could not concede several months ago. what we are seeing in the populous, i see in the streets of kiev, in all the areas that election monitors were about. i see people frustrated with the ukranian army not doing anything to fight the incursion. the push-back is supported by the people. you mentioned the russians and their government. they are calling for the ukranian government to stop actions against the pro-russian rebels. is there concern that the russian bear will continue to support the destabilizing efforts to do more that just that. >> there is great concern about that in ukraine. >> people in ukraine have a mentality that there is a war going on. they know that russia invaded and nothing will stop vladimir putin because of their understanding of what a soviet

mentality is, and the understanding of what vladimir putin is. this is a man who is a rogue actor. he is spoel for the death of -- responsible for the deaths of journalists. >> we see paigs leaders asas nated in russia, and -- we see opposition leaders assassinated in russia, and attacks against chechnya were condemned by the european court of human rights. this is a man that does not stop at negotiation, and the people of ukraine are thankful to see an army step to the boarder. >> you were there to see the elections - what did you see? >> i saw a country raidient, joyous to be out to vote. it's a great time of year. the flowers are blooming,

children are finishing exams, they are in their best dress. embroiledered search. everyone was coming out, children in hand. turn out was high, even in areas we did not expect a strong turn out. we are seeing that people were glad to put in place a president that has the people's will behind him, but they are not done with the revolution. behind me you see the maydan is up. they will fight for what the spirit of maydan was, which was more productivity for the people, a stronger opportunity. it's an offensive freedom opportunity that people like myself can understand. >> from kiev, we appreciate you joining us. for more on what is next for ukraine i'm joined by ambassador william taylor, vice president for the middle east and africa for the u.s. institute of peace. he served as election observer in ukraine over the weekend.

i know you got back from kiev. you spent time in kiev, odessa and north of the crimea. what was the response outside the capital to the election and the responsibility, however endangered that we will see a unified ukraine. >> i think there has been a real shift. a momentum shift in favour of ukraine. you see this politically with the election, with this large turn out. large support for the president now. president petero poroshenko. but also you see a shift in momentum on the military side. i think the new president has been willing to take strong action. his military is moving forward in donetsk and as i understand it the airport is upped control of the -- under control of the ukrainians. i think the shift is a good one. it's welcomed across the

country. >> we spoke to andre, another observer, saying the mood was great. do you think this could help resolve the conflict with moscow and the west? >> i think they do. where i was was a russian-speaking city. i had been there before. now it was different, festive, enthuse yastic. ukranian flakes over the city, in girls' hair, shoelaces. across apartments, it was really a dramatic demonstration of support for the government, which i think then leads to the ability, a new ability for the government in kiev to take the responsibility to make the changes, to talk to the separatists, or at least talk to the people in the south-east about their grievances, and this

gives them the confidence to do that. >> the russian government said it would accept the results of the election before the election happened, but separatists in donetsk are pleading with vladimir putin to intervene, especially after the latest violent conflicts, and russian foreign minister sergei lavrov called it a war. there were reports of clashes with armed men, some chechen fighters joining the separatists. certainly all of those are not great signs that moscow is really trying to settle the conflict. >> moscow - you are right, sending out mixed signals. it is clear that moscow does not want to support the separatists in a dramatic, serious way with troops coming across the border. moscow sound like they'd like to continue to provide the equipment, the leadership,

organization in their security evers ises. including chechens. they don't want to be seen to move their major forces across. they say - i assume they will, talk to petero poroshenko about these issues. >> but that's the thing, president-elect petero poroshenko, in talking about the mixed signals, he wants to talk peace, but then lavrov says on tuesday a visit by petero poroshenko is not considered. how do you react to that? >> i think petero poroshenko was asked whether he'd go to moscow or brussels, he gave the right answer. he said he'll go to donetsk, to the south-east, taking care of the issues and problems in ukraine. he'll, i am sure, find time, and go to brussels. i imagine he'll be welcomed.

>> let's hope he succeeds. tens of millions of ukrainians suffering through a terrible economy, and we see people dying every day. as always, good to have you on the show. thank you for your time. >> thank you. egypt goes to the polls. what the outcome means? america grap s with a new mental health proposal in california to help stop the violence. >> what do you think? if i told you that a free ten-second test

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polling in egypt's presidential election was extended an extra day to encourage a high turn out on the final day of voting. voters that do not cast a ballot could face a fine, something that had never been enforced in the past. >> if it's unusual, it is. it's parts of an effort to show support for the winner. former military chief.

joining us from washington d.c. to talk about the elections is steven cook, a senior fellow. he recently contributed to the council's report entitled egypt after the election, and is a supporter for the struggle. great to have you with us. egypt first, a foregone conclusion. abdul fatah al-sisi will be the president, it the foregone clags. >> is there concern on sis, and his supporter's side, that people are turning out, and they won't get the popular mandate. >> it is the case. there is a great concern in the abdul fatah al-sisi camp that low turn-out will compromise the legitimacy of the presidency and

not give them the mandate for the last year. they signalled that that is what abdul fatah al-sisi would have. >> from what you are hearing, was there much turn out? >> polling places were empty. 15% one newspaper reported. all in all, very, very low turn out. i should say, it's perfectly consistent with a generally low turn out with a constitutional referendum held in middan, seen as a referendum on the presidential bid by major-general abdul fatah al-sisi. but this is clearly the extension of polling hours and additional day is clearly an indication that the authorities are quite concerned that abdul fatah al-sisi will not be able to claim a popular mandate. >> why is it happening? surveys show that abdul fatah al-sisi

has been popular and had the support of the majority of egyptians, despite the fact he doesn't have support from former pro muslim brotherhood folks? >> polling in egypt is widely inconsistent and widely inaccurate. many of the polls from the previous presidential election in 2012 said that president mohamed mursi, the deposed president would come in last, and, of course, he won the election. second, the sense that there was a consensus and tremendous popularity around abdul fatah al-sisi was something that the state propaganda organs manufactured themselves, to advance an idea. but there was always a sense, if you were there, and you talked to people that support for abdul fatah al-sisi was soft. >> that's not to suggest that there's no support for him, but not the kind of mandate that people were looking for. >> the economies a mess,

reserves are down. tourism is almost catastrophic compared to what it was before the arab spring. he will face, assuming his election, a tough road with a lot of islamic unrest. >> without a doubt. abdul fatah al-sisi will face a range of complex problems. catastrophe is the best word to describe it. it is the largest importer of wheat, no reserves, massive energy needs, no tourism - which is a leading source of foreign currency, and he is confronted not only with the opposition of the muslim brotherhood, and other dissenters, but a nasty insurgency that the egyptian armed forces has been fighting in the cyanide peninsula.

>> there are issues for the relationship with the united states. you know, he has a police force known to be abusive. there are people unjustly imprisoned. what will happen with the egyptian relationship with the united states. >> despite the fact that the obama administration mildly sang tured for the cout debtar, there's a poll among policy makers and others that they'd like to resume the relationship. a number of factors will get in the way. one is the continuation of human rights violations, and i expect that abdul fatah al-sisi will continue to use force and coercion to establish political control. the fact that the egyptians themselves are looking for alternatives from the united states whether it's gulf countries like saudi arabia, or

the united arab emirates, looking for patrons besides the united states. i expect there to be difficult days ahead. >> we have syria and turkey having elections coming up. syria next week. the syrian election - we'll move past it. it's in the middle of the civil war. bashar al-assad will be president. there's not much to discuss there. >> it's a sham. it's not worth discussing at this point. >> how about turkey, what will that mean? we have a prime minister likely to be the president. he's been high handed in recent days with the turkish mining disaster, he has made terrible moves that made him unpopular, but he's expected to win the election. >> that is exactly right. president recep tayyip erdogan is a tough character.

he has been overseeing an illiberal if not authoritarian term. before then, the turkish media has been under pressure. there has been, obviously, cases of police brutality, charges of massive corruption on his part. yet, he remains popular with half of the turkish population. expectations are that come august he will be elected in turkey's first popularly elected president, that he will be elected president. >> what does this mean for democracy in the middle east? >> anybody that thought after the arab uprise thatting this would be a smooth transition is not paying attention. it's unclear whether any of these countries will make the transition. well see a range of outcomes. what is worrisome is in a case

for example like turkey, which undertook significant democratic reforms in 2003 and 2004, and is seemingly making a u-turn and going back to old authoritarian ways. >> we'll stay on top. thank you, appreciate you joining us. straight ahead - another massacre, another call for gun reforms. this one focussing on mental health. also, when women speak out about sexual assaults on college campuses, are they fail. and the porting case of abuse in the spotlight.

after every mass murder we ask the same question - what could have been done to stop it. on friday six were killed and 13 injured before the killer took

his life in santa barbara. he was clearly troubled. so much so that his mother, concerned over disturbing videos asked the santa barbara sheriff's office to she can on him in april. they did, determining he wasn't a risk. >> obviously looking back on this it's a tragic situation, and we certainly, you know, wish that we could turn the clock back and change some things. a proposal in california called the gun violence restraining order would allow those close to a troubled individual to act and allow a judge to stop that person buying or possessing a firearm. joining us from san francisco is a professor of psychiatry and director of the psychiatry and law programme. she is a member of a consortium on risk-based firearm policy, and offered an opinion piece engineer the "new york times" on monday. good to have you with us.

on tuesday assembly members in california introduced a bill to create a gun violence restraining order that you have proposed. how would it work? >> so often it's a family member who knows most about who is likely to be violent to other people or themselves. this person could petition the court to have guns taken away from this person on a temporary basis. >> so the killer in this case had no criminal history, no implicit threat. he had no hospitalisation, no history of addiction. his families was concerned. had this order been in effect in april when sheriff officers went to his apartment. could they have done more then? >> yes, they certainly could have because with the gun

violence restraining order gives the police the authority to remove guns from the home and also to ensure that the person cannot purchase guns. >> a prominent gun rights attorney said in a recent interview that there was nothing in the background that would have enabled him to buy a gun, adding that california was every lou the gun control lobby wants and it didn't stop this. what do you say to him? >> i can't talk about this case, because we don't know all the details. but there are good gun control laws in california. i argue they are not good enough. people like this perpetrator were able to purchase guns. there was suspicion, credible evidence that he was a risk for violence in the future. he kills and interviews people

with not just guns. that's something that gun rights activists bring up, if people are spended to keel people, they are going to do it. >> it's true we cannot prevent violence. guns are deadly, and as a society, we need to try to prevent the deadly violence done by guns when they are possessed by people who are dangerous, and dangerous in a temporary way. they are not always dangerous. there's something going on in their lives, which commonsense and research says that this person has a higher than usual risk of being violent. >> in the mental health world, how do you balance civil rights

with safety. i heard in this case the killer's parents called the killer's mum to warn here he had emailed the manifesto. >> again, i don't know about this particular case, but there are certain things that mental health professionals can do in certain circumstances. there are many instances where our hands are tied also. the person that knows the most about how someone is doing, and is the most worried about them is a family member. and family members feel often that there's nothing that they can do because of the current laws. so this proposal is to expand the laws so that people who are likely to be dangerous in the short term cannot have access to guns. >> now, i know people in the mental health field are concerned it that people will not seek treatment.

should you and other mental health professionals have more power to express your concerns. if we look at the recent cases that we have seen, the virginia tech case, the navy yard case, the aurora theatre case, these are people where there were red flags. should you, as mental health professionals have more power to call attention to those issues? >> most of our patients are not violent. most people who are violent do not suffer from a diagnosable mental illness, only about 4% of violence in the united states is committed by people who have a diagnosable mental ill possess, appropriate for psychiatric treatment. i just wanted to mention that. we do have a role, mental health professionals have a roll. what i am suggesting is it's not only mental health

professionals, it's family members, a community to have a responsibility to prevent violence. >> an important point. we appreciate you taking the time to join us and give us your thoughts. thank you. >> the mass murder at santa barbara, and the killer's misogynistic rants triggered an outpouring of condemn nation. a brown university student started a fight for justice so more women will not have to suffer what she says she went through at the school. she has filed two federal complaints against brown claiming the school broke the law in the handling of a sexual assault case she press the aid gaines a student last -- against a student. she said she suffered a spinal injury after a brown student, wh whom she had a previous

relationship, said no to sex. the interdisciplinary panel included he was responsible for sexual misconduct and actions reasonably expected to result in physical harm to a person. his punishment - a year's suspension. i'm joined in the studio by olivia, a political reporter for "the daily beast" who has been covering this story at brown. before talking about the brown situation, i want to talk about what happened in santa barbara, and the yes all women hashtag that has come out. within a day of the miss only nis expressed, this exploded on the internet. more than a million treats in a matter of hours, women sharing experiences on how they've been experienced in the workforce. this hit an important nerve. >> it has. a lot of women see others their their stories, and felt

comfortable coming out with their stories of sexism that they faced. it'sive, because it was a -- it's difficult because it was a tragic thing, an important discussion, and i'm glad it's happening. >> let's turn to the brown story. you quote senator jilly grand saying if they were vetted and prosecuted, perpetrators get many years in gaol. the senator said it should not be the cost of a college education to get raped. we have done a lot on campus sexual assault and one thing that struck me is there was no obligation to report this to law enforcement. >> i think it's lost on people. if you hear about a crime. the school has to go to police. that makes sense. >> unless the state that you are

in schools don't have an obligation under title 9 or the cleary act, the two laws that relate to this. >> in the piece you mentioned there's no way a murder would be treated this way. so a sexual assault which is a significant felony is not treated in the same way as other felonies. > you wouldn't have a med student do an autopsy and think that's okay. that is happening with sexual assault. students sit on a panel at a hearing, there's a weird investigation, there's no rape kit, not how we think of a real investigation being done. victims are suffering, and so are the accused. >> what do you argue, that people should have the right to report it to the college, and say i don't want to report it to the police, that maybe the victim can opt out. unless the victim opts out. >> what is clear to me is that

it's necessary for victims to be told in the beginning, before their victims, when they get to college. you need to tell students that they have the option to go to police and report a crime. you are not going to get rel justice for a university system. >> what happened in this case. estimates are that one in five are assaulted and few report this. lena did not report this until days after it happened. >> liona, as she told he went to brown, he used the university system to get justice. >> it took her days to do that. >> that's common. when you are victimized in that way, it's common to take a few days to process and figure out what to do. >> she did not go to the police and chose to get justice. it definitely failed her. >> she said:.

>> that is something she was considering about whether she should go and report this. the white house had a task force about what colleges should do to improve the situation. 55 universities are being investigated for the way they are not dealing. >> it may be 56. lena filed two complaints against brown for violating title 9 and the cleary act. >> what are the vigest complaints you see. >> people argue that schools are sweeping it under the rug. it doesn't look good to have a high percentage of rapes reported. i was at a panel with senator mccaskill, and she talked about if a school has a low rate of reported rapes, it's a bad sign, because they are not doing their job with title nine to make sure

these things are being addressed. >> a couple more questions. the panel at brown found some serious violations, some - you know, and then the student only got a 2-year suspension. >> how can this be possible. >> the panel made a recommendation, but it was not taken into consideration. he was given a one-year suspension. the real issue is that is the worse that can happen. >> there's no way a university can give someone gaol time. >> this is the problem. if you go through the university system, that's it. that's as bad it it will be for the accused. >> the flipside is the accused faces consequences. if there are false accusations, i am sure they are the minority. i'm not saying that that is the case here, but if that happens,

that person can suffer tremedly and have tremendous consequences. should it go to law enforcement so there's a fair airing out of the issues in any particular case. >> the point is the accused - they cannot be found guilty of rape. but a lot of people found guilty of sexual misconduct. >> it's not fair to the accused. the only answer, farce i see it is for universities to do their job, but to make sure that students know that if they want justice, they neat to go to law enforcement. >> capitol hill is trying to improve matters, and let's hope some action gets down. you read too many cases like this that leave you wondering how can this be possible. great to have you with us. >> thank you.

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as the whole country struggles to address the issue of violence, the sports world is

facing serious problems in that regard. baltimore's running back ray rice commented since being charged with felony aggravated assault against his wife. they held a joint press conference that was widely criticised. >> we wish we could take back 30 seconds of our life. they sit here and tell you that, you know, we are better parents. we are better lovers, and we are better friends throughout the situation. >> i deeply regret the role that i played. but i can say that i am happy that we continue to work through it together, and we are continuing to strengthen our relationship and marriage and do what we have to do. >> let's bring in dave lyn. he's an author among other

things. people were furious at the press conference. ray rice knocked his then fiancee, wife out. he dragged her from an elevator, and apologised to his team and fans, and not to his wife. she apoll knifed for the part she played in the accident. what message does that send? >> a terrible issue. there's two distinct issues. one is the issue of violence against women. the other is the culture of violence against women. when it comes to violence against women, it's a horrible tragedy that jana felt the need to apologise for her role getting knocked out and dragged by the hair. that should be on her husband and he should be asking more her forgiveness, and not of the team or the owner of the team. certainly he shouldn't say when you get knocked down, you should

get up again. the second part, the culture is what i'm concerned with. i'm talking about the n.f.l.'s reaction to this. you cannot deny that it is a spourful force, it's the top-rated programme. millions of fans, three times as many watch the draft and the play-offs. its influence is huge. in this case you had the ravens, the baltimore ravens twitter feed tweeting to the followers, including jena rice's comments of her accepting her share of responsibility. this is a disturbing message for an officially sanctioned communication body. it makes it seems like it is helping with ray rice's imagery.

so they can get back on the field, instead of dealing with the underlying problem. >> isn't that the issue, that they care more about the public relations issue involved, than the underlying issues. >> i wish i could say this is a problem with the baltimore ravens, you see this throughout the league. the percentages are mined boggling in terms of the number of players that find themselves in situations involving violence against women. so much so that when you think about how image conscious the n.f.l. is, it boggles the mind that they don't say or do anything. the n.f.l. is so image conscious they turn bullying into an issue that took place in the miami

dolphins locker room. they say no, that's not everyone's locker room, it happened one time. the response the league is if it happens once, that's one time too many. it's too important to sacrifice. >> look at the situation. i'll give another example. a safety to the miami dolphins - inexcusable. suspended from the team, team functions, because if it happens once,it's one time too many. here, the killing of women in certain cases, dew von killing the mother of his child, yet no games are cancelled, no mention. with the exception at the end of a broadcast. a non-mention as if it hadn't taken place. it is disturbing, especially when you consider the way the

n.f.l. takes a month out of every year, to do breast cancer research, to give money, have the players fest onned in pink. they can spend their money at n.f.l. games. violence against women. >> the physical hurting the women. they are conspicuously silent. >> i want to get one other topic in before we go - next month's world cup in brazil. we'll hear a lot about d. pele, the favourite son, the best soccer player in history - he criticised the country spending $900 mill on on one, $450 on another, due to fraud, while the poor in brazil suffered. he said: . >> you said this is teperred

criticism, but remarkable that pele said anything at all. >> absolutelile pele, not only apolitical, but throughout the '60s, '70s, and '80s, when brazil existed in a dictatorship never hesitate to align himself with the dictators. when he was asked about poverty he said "well, god it good", would be the stock answer and wouldn't have a comment. in this case pele was somebody who helped to - was part of the organising committee to get the world cup and the olympics to brazil, the olympics coming in to 16 to rio. to have him be critical, less than a month out before the start of the world cup, frankly, is remarkable and out of characte character. >> let's hope the world cup and olympics bring money into brazil

to alleviate some of the poverty. good to have you on the show. >> the show may be obvious, but the conversation continues on the website. you can find us on facebook or google+, and twitter. see you next time. good evening, this is al jazeera america. i'm john seigenthaler in new york. coming home - president obama sets an end date for americans longest war. close call - looking up as a tornado bears down. astonishing video from north dakota, and the latest on the wild weather sweeping the country. pay day - an eight-figure first for the c.e.o.s rich and getting richer. is it fair. plus, need for speed - the science behind