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ukraine's new president is sworn in promising to keep the country united but with more power for the region. >> hello. you are with al jazeera. we will have the latest from iraq where armed men have stormed a university campus. also coming up, afghanistan's presidential frontrunner vows to continue campaigning after surviving a dozen bomb blasts, plus, in madrid, some people are calling for a refer endum on the future of the monarchy. i will be asking whether there
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is political change in the air. >> and the definitive indian car. after decades of no change, is it the end of the line for the ambassador? ukraine's new president has vowed to maintain the country's unity as he was sworn in to. [applause.] >> speaking in parliament, he offered an amnesty deal to pro-russian fighters in the east. he said crimea would remain part of ukraine. . >> who comes with a sword will fall from the sword. citizens of ukraine will never enjoy the beauty of peace unless we settle down our relations with russia. russia occupy crimea which
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was -- is and will be ukraine as well. >> our correspondent is in kiev and sent us this analysis of the poroshenko position on crimea. >> when it comes to crimea, the issue really is whether shrussi is going to back down on that and if the president is going to be able to hold talks with moscow. >> will be top of his agenda. but it's interesting to note that former leader here was making comments earlier today saying these negotiations may go ahead but the danger is that they will be for ukraine, at least, the danger is they will be on russian terms. they will probably be ultimatums if theres going to be any movement on resolving the military crisis here, it will be about trying to get ukraine to somehow recognize russia's right to maintain its claim now on
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crimea. so, if there is going to be any movement, it seems this is going to be extremely tricky sticking point for the new president in his dealings with the kremlin. they owe the russians lots of money in gas, and russia has warned ukraine it will switch off gas supplies later this year if they do not commit to those repayments, if they do not stop putting money up in advance. so these are economic situations that are really going to be as well very difficult for petro poroshenko and he has to think about how to share power with the renalons, to offer something to other parts of the country where they feel they need more power. at the same time, he's under pressure from the russian side to federalize ukraine. but that's something that the ukrainian government under poroshenko would core to be a big mistake because they feel
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that will split the country into 5 feifdoms that could be done by putin's kremlin. >> let's talk about this with a political analyst live in kiev for us. thank you for taking the time out on this moment onous day to talk to us here at al jazeera. clearly, president poroshenko has a very full entree. where do you think he begins? >> good afternoon. the priority, the one he is going to begin with is the negotiation with russia. the whole country has been waiting for this moment when a legitimate is in charge to start and hold the negotiation successfully, he has already known how to ensure the negotiation process can be held
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successfully. so tomorrow, the negotiation process will start here in kiev. exactly who will represent kremlin. we will know about it. but still, we have reasons to believe this is a good start. the only thing to remember that the top priority for ukraine may not be the top priority for russia. we will see whether these negotiations processes will be accompanied with the discussion about the regulations going on by osce at the same time in germany. >> given the indications that we have already had from president poroshenko with regard to the status of crimea and possibly with regard to the potential autonomy for parts of the eastern part of ukraine, where do you think mr. poroshenko is likely to take the country?
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>> as mr. poroshenko already claimed, ukraine will stay united. at the same time, it will be deconcentrated state. the decentralization has already been started. it will take place in late 2014. the point mr. poroshenko has made is clear: the power will be to elected coun sizzle at regional levels. the russian language will be freely used in part of ukraine, mainly the east. over ukraine there will be one state, ukraine. and however, the power will be deconcentrated all over ukraine. >> okay. valentino romanova. our correspondent kim vinnell is in donetsk. she has the latest on the reaction there to president poroshenko's inauguration. >> so far, it appears that the donetsk people's republic is
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rejecting the offers laid out by new president petro poroshenko for greater autonomy. a founder told us he didn't listen to the inauguration speech because the words of a president which is not his own don't matter to him. >> gives us some idea what we are likely to see from the donetsk people's republic going forward. in terms of trying to negotiate with the separatists in the east, i think poroshenko will have a very difficult time because there is increasingly infighting among the sections, the liberation armies, the russian orthodox army, but, of course, the separatist fightings are coming under increasing pressure, being squeezed by the cra careenian military. >> let's go to iraq where a siege is currently underway. armed men have stormed the university in ramadi taking
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staff and students hostage. in northern iraq a number of districts around samarra have been taken over by fighters from the islamic state of iraq. we can talk to al jazeera imran khan. tell us about these incidents. there were more than one incidents seems happening at the same time? >> reporter: well, that's right. in ramadi province, at ptn is reporting that the hostage-taking situation in ambar university has come to annd. however, we have spoken to locals in ramadi who have told us it is still ongoing. others have told us there is something going on there. they live near the university. they have seen movement. we don't quite know. the situation september quite clear whether they have been released or some of them have been released. a hostage taking isn't an islamic state of iraq tactic. hostage-taking takes up a lot of
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their soldiers, likelihood of getting out alive or being capture is quite high. what they do is the kind of attacks we saw a few hours earlier, a hit and run on an army convoy which left three soldiers dead. so essentially, there is some movement going on ramadi, itself. ramadi, you have to remember, seem to have quietened down its operation against the fighters. it's been going ongoing since january. fallujah has been a powder keg. there are a regular incidents. but for the last month and a half, rammidadi has been quiet but there seems to be a ratcheting up from isl fighters. >> it seems a resurges answer and an event. what is the -- what is the objective? what do they want? >> the driving force behind all of this. now, also, they are in somarra now. they have taken over certain neighborhoods. it's a key town because of the sideline, one of the most ven
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rated shiia shines attacked in 2006 which led this country into a sectarian almost civil war that took place, which left hundreds of thousands of people de dead. so isil fighters are there. they are pushing through here but and in mossul as well. one of the reasons why is the leader is facing a power struggle going on within al-qaeda, itself, that al-qaeda globally. he is very critical of who allegedly was in afghanistan who is seen as the leader of al-qaeda. he is criticized him openly. he said he is not fighting. he is using other proxies to fight. he said i am the one who has certain the al-qaeda cause seriously, fighting on the ground and i should be in charge of al-qaeda. so this is a posh struggle going on. >> that's one of the reasons we have seen. also the main within we have seen is the situation on both sides of the border. and that they say that this
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iraqi government, which is trying to be formed at the moment but the government of prime minister nouri malaci but lots of ches games going on. there is a power struggle within al-qaeda and what is going on syria and here in iraq is leading to the resurgentions. they are getting more and more serious. >> for now, imran, thank you very much. now afghanistan's presidential frontrunner is promising to continue with his campaign. this after two bomb attacks targeted his motor kade. abdullah abdullah walked away unharmed. three of his bodyguards were killed. he faces the world bank economists a is sharafkhani. helena malika said this violence is unlikely to stop people from the country voting in the run-off election.
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>> i think a lot of people have become even more determined to defy the taliban and go to the polls, especially in the urban areas where it will be more possible to do it. but there are some rural areas some villages where the taliban have already settled and i am sure they will make an effort to not to allow people to go to the polls. so we will probably have a mixed reaction but as far as the term nation of the people is concerned, i think people have become sort of very defiant and it has become almost a civic resistance to defy taliban threats so i think we will see a lot of people going to the
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polls. >> lots more to come here at al jazeera including his rain in spain is over. now, the king's abdication is leading some to question the need for a monarchy. . >> the u.s. gun campaign is wanting to extend the right to bear arms. >> read, be curious your brain is your ultimate weapon >> hope for the future >> the only thing that can transform my continent is girl's education
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poroshenko offered an amnesty deal to pro-russia fighters in the east. in iraq we have heard a unusual of people at a university in ramadi have now been released. afghanistan's presidential frontrunner is promising to continue with his campaign after two bomb attacks targeted his motor kade. abdullah abdullah walked away unharmed, but six people were killed. now, in spain, more protests are expected in a few hours' time against the monarchy. there have been calls for a referendum on the future of the institution after the king decided to abdicate last week. a report now from the spanish capital, madrid. >> reporter: spain's ruling party insists the economy is on the road to recovery. try telling that to these women. they are carrying home food handouts from a local charity. they live in an abandoned apartment block with other single mothers.
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there is no electricity, and the women here feel disconnected from the monarchy and spain's political elite. >> the king survives off public money. we don't. our kids have no food while the kid goes off on safari in africa. it is that kind of extravagance that made the king so unpopular, ultimately forcing him to step down. the timing of his abdication is also political. an election next year could usher in more republicans to parliament. for now, a center right government says it will quickly pass a succession law. 90% of parliament supports it. they can't be silenced by a small, noisy minority. >> this is one of the lead issues of that growing minority. in four months, this young university professor has turned his movement known as pordemos
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into spain's fourth largest political force. >> right now, the main institutions and parties are discredited. this is one of the problems of the country, plus corruption and the royal house being seen as out-of-touch. >> this is one of the reasons why political movements like podemus are gaining ground. nus one house can project, there are more than 200 families facing eviction because they can't afford to pay the rent. >> reporter: the courts have told mary kanman that she has two weeks to leave. she says her family has no where to go. >> the system doesn't work. at least that's what i think. and they know it. it's time for change. >> the debt crisis has changed the very fabric of spanish society. families are being torn apart by poverty. some citizens are getting more involved in politics. others are questioning the
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establishment and that includes spain's monarchy. al jazeera madrid. >> okay. we can talk now to clemons from the new republican society. he joins us live from amsterdam. thank you for talking to us here at al jazeera. it's interesting, isn't, that when times are really tough, as in spain, over the last couple of years since the crisis in the eurozone, that people, an increasing number of people, it would appear are becoming antimonarch efts and becoming unrepublic can in their outlook. >> the people real suffering by the crisis while the royal house is enriching himself by corruption. the people don't accept it anymore. >> but, also, i mean in many countries, your own included, and certainly here in the united kingdom, the royal family or the
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monarchy is quite often cited as one of the binding forces of a country that often does a lot of good, especially during times of hardship like during wars or periods of depression. >> i can speak just for the situation, the number of republicans is about 25% of the population. monarchists are about 20%. the rest of the people don't mind. there are a lot of fairy tales about the royal family in the netherlands they live fabulous and very important -- they are fabulous but those fairy tales are written by the state public relation services. >> sorry to interrupt. can we go back to the spanish
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issue is because we are talking to you today. >> yeah. >> because in spain, we are seeing a growing number of people disaffected with the monarchy so much so that they are prepared to take to the streets and demonstrate. we are expecting them out in large numbers later today. so what are we witnessed in spain? >> it's quite through one person, juan car loss is forcing the spanish parliament is making his abdication possible. also, that is one of the things people get sick of and that also, because they never have been able to elect a head of state after the junta. this king was appointed by -- >> sorry to interrupt. time is really not on our side today. but thank you very much indeed
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for sharing your thoughts. >> you are welcome. >> thank you. thank you. and let's move on because the leader of lebanon's hezbollah's movement says if western nations wants a solution to the syrian war, they must talk to babashar al-assad. he has support among the syrian people. >> translator: any political solution in syria begins and ends with president dr. bashar al-assad. >> that's what the election says. there is an elected president with a new mandate of seven years elected by millions. anyone who wants to reach a political solution has to talk with him to negotiate with him to discuss with him and reach a solution with him. what can the solution be? this has become the concern of syrians. >> in syria, itself, activists are reporting that the military is dropping barrel bombs over a rebel-held district in the
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southern city of dira and in a nearby town, activists have reported 12 killed in a missile strike. there has been fighting in li a libya. callive a hafta launched an offensive he is against militants in may winning some support but the interim government says he is an outlaw. >> three people have been killed in egypt after police tried to break up a protest in giza. and in alexandria, at least a dozen protesters were injured when police fired tear gas at an anti-coup rally. hundreds have gathered to denounce al sisi as president. several districts of the capital. a campaign group, reporters without borders maz written an open letter to egypt's president
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elect abdul fatah al sisi. three al jazeera journalists accused of supporting the outlawed muslim brotherhood held for 161 days. on thursday, egyptian prosecutors demanded the maximum pe penalty. they will they want seven years fogreta. axis denies the allegations against them. >> another al jazeera journalist, abdullah al shami has had his hearing postponed. he is being held without charge since august last yeary has had his hearing postponed. he is being held without charge since august last year. he has been on hunger strike. the police in brazil have used tear gas and rubber bullets to break up a subway strike. workers are demanding a pay rules. the protest forced many underground stations to close in the city, which will host the opening match of the world cup next week. now, the movement to openly
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carry guns in public is gaping strength across the united states. a group called open carry texas has been caring military rivals into convenience stores and restaurants. open carry even asking supporters to take guns into the republican state party convention as a show of support and as john hendron discovered, they did. . >> plene gail beliefs the answer to gun violence is more guns out in the open where everyone can see them. >> if san sees a pistol on my hip, they are not going to do anything to begin with. so we think instead of reacting to crime, it's better to just prevent it to begin with. >> in bestros and bars across the u.s., americans are carrying guns and unnerving their neighbors. >> here in texas, guns are just part of the cowboy culture, but even here, for some, carrying them openly in restaurants and bars is still a little too much.
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>> even at the state republican convention in pistol-packing texas. >> me, personally, to walk into a place, i guess, and just see, you know, several people with their guns out would be a little intimidating. and, you know, the first question that kind of would go through my mind is are they the good guys or bad guys? >> open carrying has become so popular that some restaurants have asked their customers to leave their weapons at home. even the national rifle association called open counter texas counter productive and weird. the nra later apologized. open carry advocates have a texas-sized complaint? >> if i was to open carry my handgun, i would be considered a felon. >> you've got a holster there. >> got a holster. you can see it's empty. >> 44 of the 50 u.s. states allow americans to carry handguns openly. somehow texas which allows gun
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owners to carry concealed handguns and arrivarifles and s is not one of them. texas says this is a first arm. this civil war era pistol is not. many open carriers are carrying rep plic cas as they try to change the law. >> when i enter a gun-free zon, i don't feel safe. i feel safer when i am carrying a firearm because it gives me the ability to protect my life. >> the only solution to a bad guy with a gun? >> is a good guy with a gun. >> as the movement gains momentum, the open carry texans have a good shot at liberalizing the state's gun laws more than ever. john hendron, fort worth, texas. >> the maker of india's iconic ambassador car has stopped production of its plant. karish movias explains why. >> the unmistakable ref of an
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ambassador. it's a sound puja has heard and cherished her whole life. >> i love my car. >> growing up in india, it's the only vehicle her father drove and now she is carrying on the family tradition. >> for me, it represents memories of childhood. we spent a lot of time traveling out of town nuit with the family, and, it also represents a lot because growing up, it meant it was driven by ministered and bureaucrats. >> for decades, it was the only car available in india and was used by everyone from the prime minter to taxi drivers. this may be pooja's last ambassador. it's maker, hindistan motors announced it was indefinitely suspending operations at its plant because of financial difficulties. it's workers are owed six
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months' salary. >> the company was notability produce more than five cars a day. they were not able to meet their financial obligations like the windows, the dealers use. >> even if these problems are resolved, production of this famous car may not resume. ambassador dealer buvandi dan says his sales have plummeted from 1800 a year in the early 1990s to just 120 last year. the vehicle has failed to keep up with motoring innovations and the demands of consumers. >> we never see it on the road much. >> i am a young girl, so i prefer sports modelses rather than an indian old car. >> they may not want to buy it but many indians are nostalgic about ambassadors. >> after 57 years on india's rugged roads, this grand old
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the country has recaptured all the jobs lost during the recession. more than 138 million people are working. but the population is grown and so has the workforce. a smaller share is at work than before the recession. to get back to the workforce participation we used to have we would need to create 7 million more jobs than we have now. even with modest job growth it has continued to grow since 2010. getting back to that overall recession number took some doing, better grab that legendary glass for a closer look. there are a lot of ways to figure out whether it's half empty or half full. >> so here's the good news, 217,000 more americans were added to the workforce in may.
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it's the fourth straight month of over 200,000 new jobs. the private sector led the way with professional and business services with 55,000 jobs. the healthcare jobs with 34,000 jobs, twice it's average monthly increase in the last year. the u.s. lost a tremendous number of jobs during the recession. hitting bottom in october 2009 when one in every 10 american workers was without a job. it took over six years but the economy finally replaced the jobs it lost in the recession. the overall employment situation is still mixed. millions of americans are on the side lines. burdened by an economy nursing itself to health. add the growth in population and labor force since the beginning of the recession
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in 2008, the u.s. is still short millions of jobs. 10million americans who could work are not. a third of those have been out of work for six months or longer. and in the six years since the darkest days earnings have been stagnant. in fact, hourly wages are lower now than when the recession technically ended in june of of 2009. that's largely because of the growth of low-paid jobs. the unemployment rate remains 6.3%. a large problem of slow job recovery assailedder americans holding on to their jobs. the country's aging population has hit their younger counterparts hardest. more than 15% of millennials are without work. 2million of whom have stopped looking for work all together.
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>> the health of the job market. on the mend or just treading water. that's what we'll look at this time. demographic realities and the kind of jobs people are gaining. we're joined here in washington adam hirsch. from boston, kathy robinson, and also here in d.c. mike bray, the owner of hobby works. when you looked at the numbers and the numbers behind the numbers, how did they look to you? >> the there is good news and bad news. the good news as you mentioned is that the economy has been an isn' consistent trend. and we've recovered all the jobs that were lost since the start of the great recession. but the bad news is that the unemployment problem is still very pervasive it's and much worse than the 6.3% unemployment rate would imply. that's how we contemplate that
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particular stake. take--statistic. and i don't know them, 7 million people, we have another 7 million people who are working part time because they can't get enough hours at work even though they want more. these are not jobs that will lead to middle class standards of work. >> is that something that seemed about right to you? are you seeing more activity in your line of work? >> you know, absolutely i am. there are a lot of employer who is are starting to get of off the dime and make offers in a way they haven't been. and jobs searches were taking forever. and obviously it's still in mixed america at the moment. there are sectors that are taking off again and have new life. and then there are still new
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people who are 60 years old and their 80-year-old parents are supporting them. it's all over the map, but it gives us a lot of room for hope. >> mike, when you heard those numbers, are you seeing it as a retailer? do you have customers who have more money to spend? >> you know, anecdotally i just came back from a big industry conference from las vegas, and anecdotally we were all feeling like our customers are feeling like things are going to get better. but this support as adam said. no one was reporting significantly improved sales. i think the answer is a mixed bag. we have not seen a lot of it on the ground, but we feel like our customers are feeling better and as a result we're feeler more hopeful. is the hobby sector a sensitive industry?
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>> we don't sell anything that anybody needs. but in the past i felt it was recession resistant. but this recession seeming to so much deeper so fast, so much faster than previous dips this is one of the eastest things for people to cut out. it's been a long time coming back, and the big-ticket sales have not come back. >> how have you handled that as an employer? >> we've run as lean as we possibly can. before the show i was saying i feel like i'm running the business now at 19 years in much the same way i was running it when i first started it. very lean, very mean, trying to make sure that every dollar is not wasted. >> kathy robinson, are there people coming off the sidelines? that's been one of the constant features of the reporting on the jobs recession that a lot of people simply took themselves out of the workforce when they see this kind of numbers. they start thinking about coming back.
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>> yeah, i've been getting a ton of calls about that. there were a lot of people who called themselves the consultant for the past couple of years because they tried in the job market. nothing was happening. they're start to go kick the tires, look out there and see conversations with people. and companies are receptive to people who have been out on their own for a while in a way i haven't seen recently. there has been more, let's test again and see if i can land this time. >> adam, let's talk more about workforce participation. for a lot of economists that has been one of the worrying numbers of this whole last decade. >> what's been worrying the labor force participation rate has come way down. that's one of the reasons why the unemployment rate is reflecting a decline even though we still see so many people out there unemployed and looking for work. and the worrisome thing there is just that you know we don't have
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people who are engaged in the workforce, and while they're sitting out they're losing valuable skills. they're deteriorating as they're not keeping up-to-date with the latest technologies that they're learning on the job. >> but does that create openings for younger workers? >> it creates openings where there is demand out in the economy, and businesses see that there are customers to sell to, and a need to hire people to meet that demand. and right now we're seeing a demand in the economy very low. the house old consumers are constrained by stagnant incomes. they're constrained by prices rising in key things that are important to middle class livelihood, healthcare, higher education, child care. that's not what is creating the openings. really, we're not creating enough jobs for all the people who want them. that's why we're seeing the
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labor force shrink so much. >> you talk a lot to employers. how did they explain their reluctance even when they needed workers at some point. they were laying on more overtime. they were laying on more sick days rather than hiring new people. what did they need to see that helped clinch the deal for them? >> it's a chicken and the egg question, right? if you build up the infrastructure and the work doesn't come you have a very bloated payroll waiting for the customers to come to your door. yet there are people reaching out right now who are very talented. each company is having to make it's own decision about how big do we get in anticipation of this possible growth that we're seeing. and you know, they're adding. they're definitely--there are jobs, as the labor market is showing us, in certain sector, yes. in other sectors, no. there is activity, but they're
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being cautious with what they're doing. >> are you lucky or unlucky from geography. markets come back from different paces. how is boston looking? >> boston itself has been doing great. it has really seemed to be in. jump start recently. in western massachusetts, for example, there are lots of towns where during the recession companies closed up shop. they left. they outsourced, and those towns are struggling. there are lower level of jobs that have come back-to-back fill. >> we'll come back and talk about older workers who are retiring a lot earlier than they planned, and younger workers who are having a tough time getting their careers going. this is inside story. stay with us. >> misbehaving children locked up doing time while they should be in school. >> they have to prepare for jail >> throwing away our future
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you're watching inside story, i'm ray suarez. there has been concern in the great recession about wages. in more than six years after the recession began the average worker has seen a raise of $20 a week. slim paychecks have meant less money to spend. businesses whose customers are spending less can find more equipment, hire more employees. you get the idea. and did you realize how pad things were going to get when this all first started? >> no. in fact, like a lot of thigh friends in business i felt like we weathered the recession with the tech crash, and we weathered the early 90s, when i started, and i felt like we've got an answer to this, and we're going to be fine. and it got worse and worse when we started restructuring the business including laying off a
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layer of management. did it mean that you could bargain harder with the people that you buy things done? bargain harder for retail space. everyone was suffering at the same time. >> we did. we did that. we renegotiate the every single one of our leases to benefit us. which was a good thing. we were able to negotiate harder with our we know ders, particularly when we still had a lot of cash. it's easy to go to a supplier who is sitting on a pile of inventory and wave some money around. and you know, get some good deals. all of those things combined to help us, but they weren't enough to get us back to pre-recession levels. what it did was help us to get through. but we're still not on the other side of this thing. we're still not feeling like we're anxious to go out. we want to open more stores, but we're not feeling like we did, say, in 2006, which was the store we opened in baltimore.
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>> yesterday on the program, adam, we were talking about the brick that college costs have put on young people, even young people years out of college. is this something that will slow the recovery and have a longer tail than anyone of us have realized? >> yes. the cost of college and the mountains of debt that students are graduating with now will have a long-term effect on the economy and their lives. it's taking income that they could be using for consumption, and using it to pay those debts. there is a lot left over for other things in their lives. it's going to delay them from buying a house and making adequate retirement savings, it will delay them from starting families. the jobs they have now, as you
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talked about, have lower wages on average than they might have had in the past. >> during the worst of it, a big chunk of young workers who graduated college were doing work that normally doesn't require a college education. are we starting to see some improvement there? >> so economists have talked about this as breaking the job ladder. the way people progress up to better and better jobs through their lifetime and career. what's been happen something because there is such a scarcity of jobs out there in the labor market, people who have more kills are taking the jobs openings that usually would have been filled by people with lower skills. and people with lower skills are left in the lurch. >> what about at the other end of the career ladder. if you had to do some career downwardment during the worse of the recession, are you now defined as that lower job, or can you aspire to get back on the rung of the ladder you were
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at before all this happened? >> especially at the senior level a lot of job movement happens when you're connected to a former colleague, etc. the strength that network people have still allows them to get back to where they were. but desperate times call for desperate measures, you have to take a lower level job to get by, but there is more openness to now show us what you can do. >> what about that 5 59- or 61-year-old person who ended up stopping work all together years before they had planned to, could they be coming back into the workforce? >> they absolutely are. i'm working with a few now and it's progressing and they're in the offer stages. companies are open to it. a lot of called themselves consultants as i said before, but i definitely think they're
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experiencing optimism about the market in a way that has not been true post recession. they're trying. they're putting their toe in the water to see if this is the right time for me to actually get back, get challenged, learn something, contribute. >> if that works, mike, there may be more people in your stores buying trains. >> y, absolutely. people who lost their jobs, and the jobs that are having trouble coming back, which are the ones in the middle, that's my core customer group. the middle income to upper middle income. people with disposable income, people with leisure time. i need people who have time, which people don't if they're working two and three jobs, and i need people who have extra money for things they don't need like as personal drone, helicopter or train. >> is this something that you can do in your product mix? >> we've done all those kinds of things.
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we're much more invested in the stem technology . we're partnering with those people. robot i cans i ics, all of those things have been nice. the recession forces you to get out or get to work on your business. my hope is we spend a lot of time working on our business, and getting it to where i think we're in a great place. we would like to see those numbers go up, where that turns into additional sales. >> meanwhile, even with all the negative publicity, it had it's greatest name for a long, long time. people are replacing stock cars that they kept on the roads two to three years longer than they planned to. >> that's going to natural happen with the inventory cycle
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when people buy cars. big ticket items. with interest rates still low and with interest rates expected to go up in the near future as a federal reserve withdraws its stimulus providing it's economy. the people who have the where with saul to make those purchases are looking ahead to say this is going to be more expensive for me in the future. >> stay with us. we're going to take a short break. when we come back we'll talk about what a healthy job market looks like. what we will look for in the next several months to know whether this recent momentum is for real, and have the seeds of a real recovery. this is inside story. >> al jazeera america's presents the system with joe burlinger observing a crime >> a shocking number of these eyewitnesses get it wrong >> how much would you remember? >> dark complected... medium height... you described most of the majority of the men in america
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story. how many it needs, and whether this economy is capable of the job creation, the labor demand we saw in the 1990s. still with us in washington, adam hirsh, from boston, kathy robinson , and also here in d.c. the owner of hobby works. kathy robinson, what does the recovery look like to you? >> i've been seeing it recently over the past couple of years in particular.
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>> talking about employers who listed job openings, did interviews, collected resumés and never made hires. does that start of thing start to go away? as we move up to a cycle? >> i have a client at the moment who was first contacted in october about a job, and they said we're not quite ready. we like you . then this week they have been in conversations. again something that was put on hold. they explored it, but now i feel like they're ready to go again. >> adam hirsh, a lot of economists we have spoken to oh in the program over the last six months. have been glad about the positive trend of the numbers but withholding their undiluted praise for what's going on. what do you need to see before you really pop the cork? >> i would say i'm in the same boat there.
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we're happy that the job market is recovering, we're seeing it move in the right direction but it's not at a pace that is adequate to bring down unemployment in a meaningful way. what i'm looking for when i look at the health of the job market is, one, the number of the jobs. we need to be well above where we are now to be bringing down unemployment. and the second thing is i'm looking for confidence in workers who are in the labor market. are people willing to leave jobs? are they reentering the labor market if they left before because they have expectations that there are better opportunities throughout. >> with them reentering, we could have big months and the unemployment rate won't come down. >> that's right. as the job market picks up we
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may see the unemployment rate flatten out or come up as people look for work. >> how will you know that you've turned the corner? >> there are a couple of ways we look at these things. we would like to see big ticket sales come back a little bit stronger. we would like to see people buying that extra accessory at birthdays, christmastime, not just buying a particular item but maybe a couple of things to go with it. we see higher average ticket. we see thosed a-on sales of profitable accessories. then we'll start to feel like, o.j. we'll see a light at the end of the tunnel. >> that would change the way you order, it would change the way you hire. >> it would change the way we order. it would change the way we hire. and the way we open a store. we're doing the same thing with our lease negotiations that kathleen has been talking about employers have been doing. we've been sniffing around for
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space. >> are the next six months really going to tell the story whether this is on its way back? >> absolutely. >> even if we grew now at the pace of job growth that we grew in the 1990's boom it's going to be a long time before we get back to a heavily of full employment level which is really the only time we see broad gains, wages and incomes throughout the economy. >> kathy robinson, when there are more employers looking for employees, and employers looking for help. that's when we get back to the 1990's territory. >> obviously we have a way to go before that gigantic boom, and as the workforce ages we'll looking at that in the future. but it's nice to see that there is motion going on. people are leaving jobs and companies are willing to tak take a gamble and bring people on board.
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>> will you have to hire yourself? bring more people in the office? >> i run a virtual team. but my husband who owns a construction company is bringing people on staff with this looking-forward confidence that we've been talking about the whole show. >> when a construction worker or contractor is busy, then we'll know that things are truly back. kathy robinson, mike gray, adam hirsh, thank you for joining us today. that brings us to the end of this edition of inside story. thanks for being with us. the program may be over but the conversation continues. we want to hear what you any the issues raised on this or any day's show. log on to our facebook page or send us your thoughts on twitter. our handle on twitter is aj inside story am or reach me directly @ray suarez news. we'll see you at the next "inside story." in washington i'm ray suarez.
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