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this is al jazeera america. live from new york city, i'm tony harris. 60,000 veterans are waiting for their first appointment at a va hospital at least three months after requesting one. convincing evidence. the white house makes a case that a prisoner swap for bowe bergdahl was the right move. and overwhelming border patrol.
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new information now on the veterans affairs scandal. an internal audit says 121,000 veterans across the country are experiencing long wait time for va health care. 90 days for their very first appointments. the va says it's eliminating its 14 day scheduling goal for appointments april finding it is, quote, not ataxicabbable. mike viqueria is live in washington for us. mike, do these -- not attainable. do these numbers add a new perspective on just how bad these numbers are? >> with yet more to come tony this scandal shows no sign of abating. we've first seen the ig report of about two weeks ago that indicated the phoenix facility where this scandal originated, the wait times incredibly long.
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the allegations that 40 veterans died while waiting for care. the president saw eric shinseki then, more damning evidence. shinseki offered his resignation, the president accepted it. bipartisan criticism now. richard bloome bloom bloomentha. the inspector general of the va. tony all you need to know from the conclusion of that report you just read, the 14-day wait goal was unattainable. that seemed like an incentive for people to go around it and cook the books. people want to see the entirety management structure pulled up by the roots. >> what is being done? is there anything really that can be done to fix the problem? >> well, now the bhows is saying that they are putting more staff
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on board, they are finally upgrading the software. we have heard many harsh stories about the archaic and outdated software that's being used at the va after all this time. i want to show you some other wait-times tony that really indicate how difficult a problem prob this is. from this report today, this audit, patient, longest wait time found in honolulu, hawaii 145 days. new patient specialist care, 90 days, the worst location, 145 days. and new patient mental health care average wait time, durham, north carolina, 104 days. this is not acceptable by anybody's standards. and they are just getting started now at the va trying to rectify these problems, tony. >> mike, those numbers are stunning. mike viqueria, in washington, mike thank you. less than an hour from now the obama administration will brief
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house members on the swap of five detainees for sergeant bowe bergdahl. days before chuck hagel is expected to testify before a house committee. libby casey, the debate over this deal has been at times absolutely absurd. will this briefing add some light to this debate? >> well, tony, members of congress will hear from five members of the white house staff, including deputing united states security advisory and representative of the office of the director of national intelligence. these are high level operatives. why congress wasn't consulted exactly about this exact flop happening at this time, the white house is trying to move into the explanation phase. we heard from secretary of state john kerry yesterday on the sunday talk show circuit, he was on cnn state of the union,
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sorting out the exact fact of how bergdahl ended up in the hands of the taliban. they couldn't wait for the swap any longer. >> it would be offensive and inconscionable, no matter what to leave the american behind in the hands of persons who could torture him, cut off his head, any number of things, we would consciously choose to do that? that is other side of the equation. i don't think anybody would think that would be the appropriate thing to do. >> and tony republicans had talked about that years ago but now there has been a change of tune because of the nature of the swap and because this has gotten to be such a political story. members of congress were briefed last week by members of the white house. we got an idea of how that might go, some said a video that showed sergeant bergdahl and his condition was powerful because it showed he was not in good condition. now republicans are pushing back on how the white house has handled this whole thing.
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congressman mike rogers who is the chair of the intelligence committee also spoke on this issue yesterday. >> this is a huge regional and geopolitical problem for the united states moving forward. hostages are now currency in this war on terror. that's always dangerous for both diplomats, aid workers, soldiers in the battle field. >> so chairman rogers looking at the larger picture of this. the white house expected to answer questions of chairman rogers and others on just a limb while not just for sergeant are bergdahl but the larger issues it raises. >> being shailg isecretary haged to testify before a house committee in a few days.
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>> people back home about their concerns about what's happening to members of the taliban and basic question how sergeant bergdahl ended up in the hands of the taliban. expect it to be a pretty tough hearing. >> libby casey, in washington, lobby thanli yib thanklibby tha. also appear to have been involved in the white supremacist movement but they acted alone. >> it is a very complex investigation, we're looking at social media, we're talking to associates, we're talking to neighbors, we're trying to make a determination what it is that could have been the motive. >> and police also said here, the investigation is complicated by the large number of witnesses. the shootings took place at a restaurant and then a crowded nearby walmart. a deadly day in pakistan. at least four people were killed in a suicide bombing in waz ir
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stan. wa distan. the pakistani taliban has more. soraya lenie has more. >> paramilitary ranger on sunday's attack on karachi's international airport. the unfold be disaster was clear from afar as smoke covered the night sky. just before midnight the rebels had shut their way into the old terminal dressed in security force uniforms. with real members of the airport security then the army was called in. >> translator: while security forces confronted them they overwhelmed them and it was over in four or five hours. >> reporter: but four or five
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hours is enough to bring up the question of the state of security in pakistan again. this is country' country's bisst airport. last year 16 million people passed through here. security within pakistan's many security services is part of the reason the attack was so easy to carry out. >> well, i think it's a great threat to security. there is no city in pakistan which is place. no place in pakistan is safe. the government has to take a view and tries to neutralize the terrorist forces which is the tarika taliban. >> the pakistani taliban says the attack is revenge for a u.s. drone strike that killed their leader last year. and it has warned its campaign of revenge has just begun. promising there will be more killings to come.
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soraya lennie al jazeera. >> the president of iran has been received in the presidential palace in ankara. determined to stand against violence in the middle east. still they can't seem to agree on syria. turkey supports the option. days before the opening games at the world cup in brazil, police and striking subway workers clash in sao paulo. the subway is the main means for transportation for fans who will attend the opening match. gabriel alisandro is in sao paulo. >> day 3 of a metro strike in south america's largest city. burning rushish blocking major
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avenue. it's been tense at times, locking the doors of the gates of the station to prevent revolt. >> today we are here in solidarity with the metro workers on strike. a fight for better working conditions and salaries. >> later, riot police move in to break up the crowd. everywhere in the industry the strike has left buses packed with four million commuters scrambling for other forms of transportation. the strike was declared illegal by a court order. 60 metro workers were fired. >> we may have been talking to the government for more than two months but they have not been negotiating with us. and now they are criminalizing our movement. >> by midday, 1,000 activists
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from a workers movement marched to show support for the metro workers. when they reached the state transportation office security was on high alert but it ended peacefully. local officials confident the strike won't threaten the world cup which opens here on thursday. >> the federal, state and city government is ready to offer a big event that will go on as planned. for any issue that can come up we have a contingent plan. not just for the metro. >> the metro workers strike seems to have been the catalyst of all these new protests in sao paulo. the question is, is this the beginning of the end or will they continue through the end of the world cup? the answer is coming in a matter of days. in a city engulfed in a public transportation protest.
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>> ukraine is negotiating with russia to end a dispute over natural gas payments. the trilateral talks between ukraine, eu and russia, has given ukraine until tomorrow to pay part of the country's outstanding bill or face its supply getting cut off. meanwhile, fighting continues in are eastern ukraine. the latest recruits to ukraine's battle against the separatist uprising in the east. these volunteers have joined the so-called azoff battalion. a special battalion, raised by the ministry in kyiv. they are getting are training in. some of the volunteers have come
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from crimea. they've also come from sweden, they've also come from italy. and most surprisingly some have come from russia. getting the basics of how to strip and reassemble rifles. they're all near fascists. this russian volunteer from the urals has adopted the battle name of murman. >> in another ten years i will not belong in my country. a lot of people won't belong in their country. we'll be like the red indians in america. >> reporter: also among their ranks we found a 52-year-old italian who left behind a wife and child to volunteer to fight for ukraine. >> for my political affiliation, i fight where my comrades are so i felt immediately at home. and they let me feel at home, too. >> further east towards russia a
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border patrol came under a rocket attack overnight. this in a city that's supposed to be backing kyiv. i found the separatists downtown where they showed me into their fortifications in the old greek portion of the city. >> the situation is a train and i don't know what the future holds. in the region we have a lot of people but less support in our city. >> reporter: the beaches were full of sun bathers making the most of the weather, most of them seemed unaware or uncaring about the war being fought around them. but just along the coast, the members of the adoff battalion were standing, too, at dusk under the ukrainian flag. the past is rearing its head again and the future of ukraine. david chater, the azoff sea, al jazeera. joining forces with the
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>> welt, as you know, the city of detroit is struggling to emerge from bankruptcy. part of what's called the grand bargain, is not enough to save the city. bisi onile-ere has this report. >> ford, general motors and chrysler have pledged a total of $24 million to help ease the city of detroit through brups. this money will specifically be used to pps help the dia. lose some of its prized artwork through this bankruptcy process. a number of organization he have come forthwith money trying to prevent this from happening. s number of bills known as the grand bargain that would directt
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millions of dollars to the city of detroit. nothing is set in stone. this is a deal that first needs to be approved by retirees. i had the opportunity to speak with governor about this. >> until this process is done the grand bargain is still a fragile thing. that's why i mentioned, we've come a long way but let's not stop here. give the opportunity to the retirees to get a yes vote. hopefully we're in the clear and think about the power of detroit, the wonderful things that would go on when we can all say we're focused on growing detroit where we can all win together. >> general motors and ford are contributing $10 million each, chris ler is donatings $6 million. the dia is committed to raising $100 million. voters will vote on this grand bargain. if this is approved, they won't
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have as hard a hit as the bankruptcy administrator first proposed. >> the dow reached 19 points reaching another new record high. look at this number. are you in the markets? the nasdaq and the s&p 500 were also higher today with the s&p also reaching a new record high. tyson foods will buy the company hillshire farms. known for its breakfast food. starting today apple stock's a lot cheaper. today was the first trading day after the company's seven for one stock split. ing receiving 7 for each share they own. areaettjared leavy is with me.
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i'm an individual investor. i read about this apple stock split and i'm wondering if i should jump in. now, my understanding is apple has split its stock on two, at least three prevention occasions, most recently in 2005 or so. how did the company perform after those splits? i guess i'm asking you, is it wise to jump in here? >> i've literally had hundreds and hundreds of e-mails for people jumping all over apple stocks. it's a sails gimmick that is working. slice of pie that's an inch wide. they sliced it to seven pieces. new little shares is essentially worth less, it's smaller, even though it's cheaper, you own less of apple. >> right, right, right. >> even though the stock split,
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doesn't necessarily mean it's a good value. that said, companies tend to bid up into their splits. historically we have seen stocks do well. after the split a little pull back and then they generally continue. and the reason why tony is they are attracting, apple is attracting much more people like you and i. >> right right right. >> people who can't afford several hundred dollars per share. don't think this thing is going ogo to $700 per share quickly. >> let me show you a graph here. i guess you've explained what this graph alludes to but i'm going oshow you. apple stock fries, last couple of years, right? kind of a jump after the news of the split and biggest increase, 2012. do you see this riding higher or is there a chance it could actually go the other way here? >> well, okay. couple things are working for us and against us.
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don't forget the markets are feeling a little overbought right now. as you said tony, apple is nearing its all time high made in 2012. just because it's $100 a share, it's approaching its all time high. keep in mind, apple needs to change their way. >> there you go. >> don't buy the stock because it's $100. buy it because the next product or innovation is going to change along the way. >> tim cook is doing this in a sense. to americ make the company more accessible to the normal people, you me, my cousin pookie, whatever. the split doesn't change anything fundamentally about the company or its valuation. why do i jump in now? >> because you're excited. my father left me a message, i'm
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buying apple, it's $100. but i said dad, it's as expensive as it has ever been. it is no more of a value than it was on friday. nothing is fundamentally changed. don't forget to look at those numbers. keep this in mind. because there are 7 times more shares, there are 6 billion versus 860 million on friday. i would use caution here tony, i think the stock trades a little bit lower before it trades higher. if you are a long time investor and you like apple, you can buy it for $100. >> jarrod lee leavy, thank you r joining us. short term rentals, have been around for a while thanks to air b and b.
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robert reyes is in new orleans. where the residents are speaking out about the rentals. >> just blocks from the vibrant night life of the french quarter, something is really wrong, he says. >> illegal short term rental. basically a hotel. >> like many cities around the world, new orleans has a ban on unlicensed short term rentals. meg lousteau runs a business in the french quarter. >> a worldwide increase in tourism and the proliferation of websites like air b and b that makes this so easy to do and the realization of people that there's no enforcement by cities. >> allow tourists to pick through thousands of new orleans homes for short term rentals.
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most of them not listed as legal being bed and breakfast establishments. officials of air b and b say, we look forward to working with local leaders to make the city stronger for everyone. in new york, the state attorney general's office has inteand air b and b's records, and technical mayor's office has told us that they're working with neighborhood groups and the city council to explore options to strengthen the zoning law and streamline enforcement. >> the effort to stop showrt term rentals -- short term rentals and b and bs are not just happening here in new orleans. but across the atlantic and amsterdam and u.k. because the tax revenue generated by hotels are lost. >> that's a lot of money, lot of tax money that is generated. the hotels tourism industry is
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one of the biggest economic generators that we have. >> barry kaiser the guy who has the home next ohim is making nearly $10,000 a month. >> i can't think of another business that would be allowed to om up in the middle of a residential him block with impunity. the city would turn a blind eye to, i don't know, a bar, an opium den, what, a brothel? >> we reached out to kaiser, he refused to talk with us. there are 27,000 legal hotel rooms in new orleans. thousands are residents are worried that their neighborhoods are quickly become overrun and that the tax money is being lost. robert ray, al jazeera, new orleans. >> president obama signs an executive order to help people struggling with educational debt. and the owner of california
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>> president obama has signed ap to millions of americans paying off college loans. it will let borrowers pay a maximum of 10% of their monthly income to repay those loans. the president says congress needs to symptom playing politics and act. >> you've got a group of far right republicans in congress who push this tric trickle down economic plan saying, you're on your own. let student interest rates double for millions of people. last year they tried to strip protections for low income students, slashing pell grants, making it harder for thousands of americans to afford college. if you're a big oil company
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they'll go to bat for you. if you are a student, good luck. >> well today's executive order expands a 2010 law covering loans taken out after october 2007. this year's graduating class will cover the highest level of student debt in history. john terret is here. >> gentlemen, over the years, college tuition fees have skyrocketed. you know that. do you know this? the fees have increased by 1120%. almost 1200%, that's a huge increase since 1978, and today, close 60% of the graduating students have to borrow money to get to their degrees. they are almost a it will trl dollars in debt. 40% of those former students are
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in debt. 17% of them are over 50. you've got to feel sorry for that 17%. now, of the roughly $1 trillion in student debt that is owed, approximately $85 billion of it is now as of today past due. and roughly 63% of borrowers between 2004 and 2009, when we have figures for, struggled to make payments on time. and of course in doing so, risk delinquents and their credit -- delinquency and their credit score. one of the reasons for president obama's move today is the worry that graduates might be putting off buying cars or homes or even starting families because of the stone of debt that is around their neck. >> john thank you. ann thompson is with us, the executive director of youth progress, the youth division of american progress. what are your thoughts of what the president did today with
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this executive order? >> thanks so much for having me on. we were thrilled to hear today the president was expanding the pay as you earn program which allows borrowers to peg their monthly payment to 10% of their monthly income. existed for several years but limited in scope as to who actually could take advantage of that program. what the president did today was expand that. there will be an additional 5 million borrowers who have access to the pay as you earn program as a result of the president's action today. >> so another, what you think about question. what do you think about senator warren's student loan bill that i guess is working its way through the system that would allow borrowers to refinance loans and lower their interest rates? >> refinancing is a really logical way of working through this problem. parents also take out loans to pay for their kids to go to school. and these interest rates are
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locked in sometimes eight, even 10% interest rates. in allowing those borrowers to refinance their loans and take advantage of near historic interest rates would put money back in their pockets every month and allow borrowers to do things like pay for a house or buy a new car. so that not only helps individual borrowers but would also help pump money back into the economy which is what we need. >> can i ask you a question, we know that the median income range from $16,500 at four year universities to $30,000 at for profit universities. if a public education is the surest way to the middle class, how can you explain the system we have now for financing higher education? >> i would say the system we have is a little bit broken. there is increasing tuition cost. >> yes. >> tuition has gone up like a
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thousand percent in the last through years. it's totally insane. families are borrowing, students are borrowing and families are borrowing to make up the gap for higher education. it's critical that people have training, accessing to community colleges and all of that and folks are trying to figure out how to make that work and the result is people are borrowing. what we need to do is invest at the state level, community colleges, state universities. >> can i lead you done a potential rabbit hole here? >> yes. >> why doesn't the government just get out of the business and turn it over to the private sector? has there been a real debate about that as a possibility? there's a lot of money now in this business. >> well i marine higher education is a public good. the united states has created programs to make higher education accessible for decades. after world war ii the veterans that came back had access to the gi bill that helped grow middle
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class. government support for higher education has been a huge part of why we've built a strong middle class. the solution is actually investing more in state colleges and universities to make higher education affordable and accessible to all americans. i mean there's a huge private lending market in higher education. there's a couple hundred billion dollars in outstanding private student loans. those interest rates can sometimes be up to 19% so those borrowers are paying really high interest rates and they don't have access to programs like the one the president expanded today, the pay as you earn program, that allows borrowers to have more flexible monthly payments. i don't think the solution is privatization. but more public access to the programs. >> i get that you don't like that ann. she's joining us from washington, ann appreciate it, thanks for your time. and the federal government is
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trying ofigure out how to deal with hundreds of unaccompanied children caught entering the united states illegally. right now they are being housed at a warehouse in nogales, on the border with mexico. the united states is rushing provisions there. how are people reacting that hundreds possibly thousands of immigrant children are now staying there? >> state of the union, this unexpected influx of children and teens it is overwhelming immigration agencies. first in texas and now right here in nogales, arizona. over 750 teens and children were brought to this processing facility. we don't know how many are inside. that is what is frustrating local authorities here. they simply have not been told the exact number of children. earlier i spoke to the mayor of nogales, he says he has not been
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given the exact numbers or a tour of the facility but he does say he expects that to happen a little later this afternoon. a little about this processing center, it was never designed to house this many people or over long periods of time. the mayor tells me it was originally a place to store produce, this before the border protection agency took it over. but we're told the warehouse is very barren, it doesn't have any indoor plumbing, they have been bringing in portable toilets for the children, cots, anything to make them more comfortable. i spoke with andrea dellasandro. her first concern is with the children. >> definitely a humanitarian issue, making sure that the children are more traumatized than they must have been already. i cannot imagine being a child
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put in this circumstance and as a parent or grandmother i can't imagine my children going through this. i have grandchildren and some of them are the ages of these children. >> frustrated that the government in arizona was not given a heads up that these children were being transfer here. she learned bit after these transfers had already taken place tony. >> jennifer, we are talking about hundreds maybe thousands of children there. what is the nogales community doing to help these young people? >> the community here is really coming together to try and assist these children any way they can. over the weekend the governor started a dplaitio donation dri. late at night a woman called and said i have a couple of bags of clothing that i would like to donate but the donation center
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is closed. he said here is my address you can bring it to me. and there are a dozen or so boxes of clothing and blankets, garbage bags filled with clothing. they are hoping that when the governor takes a tour of the facility they will be able to bring over these items. >> president bashar al-assad has declared a general amnesty of all prisoners, it's unclear how many prisoners will be included. thousands of opposition activists who have been in prison since the country's three year civil war. in russia five men have been convicted of murdering a are journalist, ann nsa polikskaya,
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others will serve sentences ranging from 12 to 20 years. 21 public schools in birmingham after a letter surfaced accusing radical muslim leaders of trying to radicalize students. the story. >> now it's condemned as failing its pupils by not teaching them enough about the dangers of extreme ideology. the minister in charge of education, normally wants parents to have more control over their schools but not in birmingham. >> we already require independent schools academies and free schools to respect british values. now we will consult on new rules that will strengthen this standard further, requiring all those schools actively to promote british values. >> reporter: yet some of the children came out after their exams to sair how wrong they
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thought this all was. >> we visit gurdwaras, we want to find out like -- >> just because we follow islam, muslims doesn't mean we hate other religions. >> i want to ask you questions, i lope you don't find insulting. i want to ask you has the school told you to come out and talk to the journalists and say things? >> no not just to be famous. >> here is another school in the same bracket, academically outstanding, a failure in government eyes in cultural secular behavior. this parent did training in school. this isn't a description she recognizes. >> you've heard the latest about we're telling children about hell five and prostitutes. when sit going to stop? how much dirt are they going to throw on us before we do
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tolerate and say look, is it because we're muslims? >> isn't necessarily are as straight forward as some government ministers might have you believe. but the crucial part is they now see it as most important that some antiterrorism work is conducted through department for education. many head teachers think that's the wrong response. several came together to say most parents do want to balance education but believe a few socially conservative muslims have been trying to get a bigger voice which can undermine nationally accepted standards in secular state schools. this woman says she was forced from her job by constantly harassment. >> do you regard what happened at your school as being a form of extremism? >> i think it's not focused on wanting faith and islamic education more so rather than extremism. it isn't about extremism.
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>> where social values constitute radical values is at the heart of all of this. there isn't anyone who would agree with the government that extremism is an accurate description of what's been happening here. lawrence lee, al jazeera, birmingham. >> and emergency hearing in wisconsin over the state same sex marriage ban. maria innes ferre has the story. >> she wants to hear more from both sides of the issue before deciding. wisconsin's attorney general had filed for a stay blocking the same sex marriages. the judge set another hearing for june 19th. in new jersey a top aid to governor chris christie said he knew nothing about bridgegate. he played no role in the plan to close bridge lanes as part of a political retaliation plot.
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o'dowd is christie's nomination to become attorney general. the national weather service issued a dense smoke advisory. in new york an apology from the co-owner of the horse that failed to win the triple crown. as california chrome lost, steve coburn said this year's winner took the coward's way out. he compared it to himself, 6'2", playing basketball against a kid in a wheelchair.
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>> it's redwrettable and i'm going to try to do better. ss. >> affirmed was the last one to win in 1978, that was 36 years ago, tony. >> what people like about that guy is, you know he says it's the sport of kings, horseracing. the owners are big guys, and sometimes aren't ready for that big stage. he utters some things, that he'd like to take back. the weather that created tornadoes in colorado is moving southeast, dave warren has more. dave. >> this line of storms, through oklahoma, texas, colorado and southeast, one or two warnings in place as that line continues to move south. this storm is lagging back behind it. a lot of rain still coming down so flooding will be the big problem. when you get these warnings coming in, storm prediction center just one day, last night the red dots are tornado
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reports. sometimes they can be with the same tornado as it continues to move through region but a number of reports in colorado again and that line continuing to push east through oklahoma and texas and now that's where it is, as the storm continues to spin in western kansas. this is just one of many storms that we've seen here over the last week and one, two or three of them coming through this area over the past seven days. that's why this is a pretty impressive number. reports in the past sefng days, 84 tornado reports, over a thousand wind damage and over 700 hail reports. a very stormy week. it's uncharacteristic to see this so high in just a one week period. >> a new incident of sexual assault in egypt's tahrir square. this time a teenager attacked as thousands celebrated. and a college student who attacked a gunman overwhelmed
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>> welcome back everybody to al jazeera america. boko haram gunmen, women were taken away at gunpoint last thursday. the abduction took place just outside the town where nearly 300 girls were taken by boko haram in april. egyptian police have arrested seven men for sexually attacking a woman in tahrir square. it is just the lathest case of sexual assault in the square. roxana saberi is on the case. roxana. >> some of the images are
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disturbing. >> this video potatoesed on social media appears to be a woman naked with blood over parts of her body. tens of thousands of egyptians celebrate the inauguration of their new president. the video has created a stir. it hose reporting from tahrir square. she tells an anchor woman, we must also report that there are some isolated cases of sexual harassment. the anchor then laughs and saying so what? they're having fun. all the people are having fun. the anchor then wrote on her facebook page, i was commenting on people's joy not the harassment. it expresses its solidarity with all the organizations that challenge the sexual harassment
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phenomenon in egyptian society. for all accounts, sexual harassment is a foj in egypt. >> they think it's an asnomly, an unusual case but, in fact the numbers are showing it's becoming more and more prevalent. >> site of rallies during the arab spring and today. >> people out on the streets, publicly celebrating, publicly protesting, where former field marshal sisi was elected. there are more opportunities for people to act on their rages, their anomalies. >> making it punish annal up to five years in prison but tony, some people we talked to are worried these laws will not be
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followed. >> roxana saberi, thank you. john meis helped, subdue the attacker at seat public university. >> as soon as folks found out that meis is getting married on june 21st, they wanted to help. so they went to their wedding page and then they went to their registry page and they bought all the items that they wanted for their wedding. so not only did they do that: but also a crowd funding site was started. >> are you kidding me? >> no i'm not. john and kaylee his fiancee have
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received more than $50,000 tony for their honeymoon. >> $50,000? >> that's right, $50,000 for their honeymoon, from complete strangers for thanking john for being a hero. today meis put out a statement saying he's overwhelmed with people's generosity. he's asking people to donate to the victims of the shooting. and earlier today, we were looking at the donation page for one of the injured students sarah williams 19 years old. well she's gotten just a little bit over $3,000 over the last couple of days. and she went through five hours of surgery. she was in critical condition. just a few hours ago she was upgraded to serious, tony. >> so wait wait wait wait wait. the hero we applaud what he did, right? and folks are overwhelmingly supporting him with resources money and everything else and the young woman wh was injured right, five hours of surgery,
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how much -- >> over $3,000 and he's gotten $50,000 so he's playing please don't donate to me, donate to her and the others. >> innes, appreciate it. for the first time ever, a computer convincingly tricks people that it's human. what it could marine for artificial intelligence, that story is next. but first, we just told you about the president's new executive order for debt relief. ray suarez tells us what that means. >> thanks tony. pay as you earn plan, that law capped loan repayments at 10% of monthly income. the changes could extend that debt relief to as many as 5 million more people. on inside story, we will hear from one student who will qualify under the president's plan. her accident was $85,000. join us at the stop of the hour for inside story.
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>> can a computer program trick a human into thinking it is actually a fellow human? so for the first time a computer has actually done just that. convincing 30% of people in a text conversation that it was a human being. jacob ward joins us from san francisco to explain this bit of robo trickery. what is this piece of software and why is it so important? >> this particular piece of software was called eugene grusman. it was named -- taking a touring test. named for eugene touring. this piece of software managed to convince 30% of people in a test at the royal society of london that that was the case. there are a couple of caveats.
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it is not a great piece of software i would say. >> hmm. how convincing is the software? 30% we are talking about here. have you tried it? >> well, that's right. so i did try it this morning. one of the things that a lot of people are sort of critiquing this for is they made up a kind of back story for this particular back story. they called it a 13-year-old boy from the ukraine. i did texting this morning had a few little back and forths with eugene. as you can see here he's just a little off. you sort of would think to you, i guess if he's not a native english speaker and he's 13 he's dpog go off the rails -- going to go off the rails, he goes way off the rails, begins to repeat himself in the first couple of minutes. i don't know how anybody unless you were bored or tired would be
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confused. where you yell "represent" into the phone but. i understand. >> jacob ward, thank you. are raray suarez is next. next. >> in the name of social mobility economic development and as the president sees it, plain 'ol fairness, the white house is ride together rescue of some students worried about adult lives burdened by student debt. it's the inside story. >> hello, i'm ray suarez.
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