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>> to wake up and say what the hecs, no one saw this coming. >> this is a big deal. >> a miracle from god. >> the most stunning primary upset imented eric cantor lost his seat. >> obviously we came up short. >> immigration was a big part. local. >> i intend to serve out my turn. leader. >> a new partnership wean google group. >> delivering the largest collection of autism genomes. >> there's over 3 billion chemical base. >> google has an opportunity to be a real leader. we begin with an upset that stunned washington, giving tea party supporters a big victory over candidate this season. former rub kaun rising star eric cantor said he would resign as

u.s. majority leader following a loss to little known david brat in his primary. ross caputi addressed reportsers after an emotional meeting with colleagues on capitol hill. >> while i may have suffered a personal setback last night. i couldn't be more optimistic about the future of the country. i'm honoured that i had the privilege to serve and represent the people of the 7th district. he rejected concerns that he spent too much time away from his constituents. that's one explanation. the list is long, from a tea party resurgence to eric cantor's position on immigration reform. what is clear is the g.o.p. is shaken, and the road to november elections got rocky. joining us from talla hassy is

republican pr man working on the 2008 campaign, and al jazeera political contributor michael sure. rick, so much speculation on why eric cantor lost to the economist professor who never worked in government, virtually no campaign funds. what happened? >> david brat had hustle. he did all he had to do. whether you have a title or a guy that is a regular representative. you have to run a campaign, do a functioning campaign at the grassroots. you'll hear what people say, what they are talking about, you'll have voter kak, one on one contact. it's a priceless assets in a turn out scenario where they were looking to - statementing between 45 and 60,000 voters. but that turn out lends itself

to a guy like brat who goes out and wears through shoe leather, knocks on the doors, does the grass root stuff and addresses voters who are dison-sent with the thing in washington. >> do you agree with rick, was this political malpractice on cantor's part. he had tonnes more money. did he make mistakes, ignoring his constituents and spending money on criticising negative campaigning against a can'ted well-known? >> i think rick was talking about the attributes of david brat. one thing that is not talked about is this was app open primary and there was motivation on the democratic side - not the reason brat won by any stretch. there were a lot more democrats coming out and voting for brat against eric cantor. i think that was a big difference that a lot of people

have not talked about. top. that is something people come back to. he's the majority leader. his seniority requires tanks in a different way to what average congress men do. while doing those things, most candidates, with respect to what rick said. most do go out and do that and have a step hill to clip. >> this was anomalous. congressman jerry lee said this about cantor's loss and what it means going forward. >> not only was he establishment but he was part of the compromises like what kept the government open much it was used against him. the message to us was

negotiation or a compromise to get you beat. peter king of new york echoed that saying the loss may mean more gridlock. >> that is a fact of the life because of harry reid, who will not negotiate with the house. and president obama, because he understands he will not get through a wishlist, that he'll govern with a pen and a phone. republicans will not be so shaken or thrown off. in three weeks no one will talk about this. no one will remember this. this is the issue that is appealing to nerds leek us, guys living in the political world. average americans, if you ask the average voter what is eric cantor's title, they'd say congressman or mr. they do not know these things. people do not pay attention to the squabbling in the way that

the political class do. >> except when it gets to government thresh holds. >> there's a compromise. >> i thought we have seen those debts. cantor was a tea party darl, he is a conservative. what does this mean. party. >> in a sense, yes, it would have to if the tea party take credit. i don't know how they can. if you listen to what lead terry said from nebraska, this is about two factions within one party, and it's fracturing the caucus, if you listen to him. yes, you can say that people don't know who eric cantor is, i imagine most americans don't know who he is. we are talking about politics, and in the world of politics, it was an earth shattering result. now the republicans have to figure out what to do.

how to fill the spot. the speakership of john boehner. if it causes stagnation on legislation. that's a huge problem not in 2014, but when it comes to immigration in 2016. on the other hand, the tea party supported brat, so did republican conservative pundits. in the end, is this a fuss about nothing that we are trying to attribute this to him being a bad politician and his district immigrationing as pointed out. the turn out was so small because only 5% of his constituents showed up. >> this is the kind of thing where we in the political class love to derive the implications to something that is fundamental. eric cantor is distracted by the trappings of power in the inner circle of political power, and spent more time out of this district, and if you don't do

the fundamentals, people know it, it's the dog food test. dogs will not eat bad dog food. no amount of advertising makes bad dog food taste good to the dogs. you have to go to the district, work, knock on doors, sometimes you go to town meetings and have angry voters tell you how they feel, and not have guys on the field say you are beautiful, and have a good looking head of hair - that's what happens. is lating and not getting to the core of the problems. >> the "new york times" your described democrats as being ecstatic. david axel rod is saying "not so fast. it may not be a good thing for the obama administration." like with anything you say it's great news. there's always someone that says it's bad news. eric cantor was a northern in the side. a lot of people thought he stood in defense of wall street. a lot of left winning did not

like eric cantor. democrats. but the real reason that democrat want to rejoice is they see trouble on the other side. they see a real disjointed party, and that, to them - listen, if you follow sports and see a team with an injury, you say "we have a better chance of beating them." in the game of politics they should be happy that democrats are not there. we didn't think david brat would win yesterday. it's not a fait accompli that david brat will win against the development in december. the point is in response to your question. democrats should be happy because if makes the republicans stop and re-assess. >> as always, good to have you both on the show. while eric cantor's defeat may have left liberals cheering and thrown the g.o.p. into disarray, it could be disaster for immigration.

a main attack was over eric cantor's willingness to find compromise on immigration laws, and whether that was or was not the reason for the con-most power of the -- second-most powerful in the house losing his primary. eric cantor's loss will pel the end of hope spell the end of hope of immigration reforms. jij us from los angeles is -- joining us from los angeles, is strategist, and is an author "you come a long way mainly." great to see you leslie. after eric cantor's loss, the word is that conservatives need to stay away from immigration reform, is it an overreaction. polls show more than two-thirds of the distribute supported reform. polls show anyone in strong opposition to immigration

reform, it's a non-starter, a losing issue for republicans to be ardently said to to reforming a broken immigration system. no one will sit in good faith thinking it is okay to have them in this country, why are they here, what is their indemnity. are they paying taxes, and have a system that should be the immigration process. no one thinks this is okay. we have to be careful how to read the tea leaves on this local richmond primary said in terms of enforcing immigration. the reality is eric cantor never brought the senate immigration bill to the floor. he blocked a vote on an amendment giving dreamers green cards if they served in the military. what was supposed to be his victory party was besieged by a

group of immigration activists, they were there thinking he would win. we saw conservative talk show hosts, conservative pundits hammering eric cantor on immigration on willingness to entertain compromise. as you know, encum bants would put off immigration because they were worried about challenges to the right. is this still a big issue for the republicans? >> it is a big issue, there's a false narrative going around that anyone that touches immigration reform will pay a stiff price. and i'm arguing that it's the stiff price not to address the issue of immigration reform. the reason eric cantor had so many challenges is he took path sides of the issue. sometimes he was prorer form, voters were much smarter. you were right, you can have conservatives and folks on the

left, both advocating that their positions were taken by eric cantor, at some point they were. that both well for a day like food when everyone can say it was because of this position. pundits. we saw laura ingrim, ann kooulter. the right of the republican party is against the proposals that have been out there so far on immigration reform, an issue is that the border has not been secured. and until there's security at the border, there's no way to have immigration reform, as that position been helped by what has happened over the past week by an enormous influx of kids coming from central america mostly and crossing the border into the united states. >> i hear a lot of loud voices taking all the oxygen in the room. if we do not address the issue and allow the president to

unilaterally make the decisions or ignore the crisis he was aware of, the one you were speaking of, that federal authorities told the administration that they had floods of children and the president chose to look the other way, this is what happens when you don't take action. it encourages republicans to stand strong, take bold leadership and talk about what you are saying. enforcement on the border. doing something to league at his and have a system, how to process individuals who game here illegally. these are serious concerns, but have to be addressed. >> lindsay graham, on tuesday, won his primary with 60% of the vote against six challengers. he was one of a gang of eight that championed pt immigration bill that eric cantor didn't bring to the next-door. chuck schumer, a democrat from new york tweeted, saying tonight proved the g.o.p. has two potseds on immigration - take a main stream staps and win or:

right. >> i do. instead of chiefed away you are agreeing with chuck schumer. >> wow, that'll web. that's true. you have to take a strong bold position, you cannot flip flop. you saw it with john mccain, with kennedy. when he started in the primary in 2008. it was a lot more difficult to take him seriously on the issue of reform. the truth it it's the most important port. i don't think we'll see reform. it's too good a political issue to take money on. it puts them on cross hairs with labour and lat eebos. they are excited, it's in opposition to each other.

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in treating autism, said to affect one in 80 kids. google is helping autism talk. to house their genomes of their siblings and parents. making that available that cloud storage. i'm talking to a former c.e.o. of n.b.c. and the grandfather of a child with autism. >> this is a massive collaboration. the government is suspending 190 million on research with autism. what will you guys do that the government is not doing? >> the nih, at this juncture, does not support whole genome sequencing, believing it's too expensive, and don't have the

ability to do it en masse. it would have to be farmed out. that is unfortunate because it's going to look old, that position, quickly. we have had - we have determined that about half of autism can be traced to genetics, and the rest is environmental, which can bring all sorts of other things in it. trying to focus on gen it ecks, 18 months ago we determined whole genome sequencing was the only methodology that we co employ because autism is difficult to deal with. if we could get the 6 billion pieces of information per genome, and get it processed, that we would have a chance to break down the autism from the spectrum down to individual outisms, a, b, c, d and e. bringing in pharmaceutical companies, treatments,

researchers from all offer the world. we found each other with google. they wanted to be in the genomics business they only started it less that a year ago, and we god toot on this and they said listen, we'll help you. you have all this material worth a great deal of time and money. we'll help you on the sequencing, the cloud, and on the tremendous effort to bring all this information out and store it and manage it. because it is a tremendous amount of situation that research hospitals and universities couldn't handle. going the is one of the only places that can. >> it's 6 trillion pieces for 1,000 genome. >> how important is it for reachers to access that. you have a grandson with auto.

>> i have a nephew and a niece. there are huge extremes one is high functioning, the other never spoke a word. there are different types of autism out will. how will this identify what is going on in the different cases. >> if we can find six autisms, if we have a genetic description and presentation matching, so the people in that had the same type of presentation of autism, we'd have many, many researchers developing, looking at existing drugs that could work for the presentation, avoiding it, deal with it. it's about personalised medicine. whi we did this, the mao clinic dove in and are doing it themselves and dana, a cancer institute in boston announced

that they are going into this. they are trying to do this themselves, and, quiet frommingly, they don't have the ability to do that. the costs are huge. >> the costs for google are not the costs that other people will have, because they already have the... >> computing capability. >> they have more computational scientists working for them than anybody does. this is not about the medicine at this stage. this is the computational ability, sorting through the data, making it intel imible and use: when you are a scientist you have to come on to their site and do the work. you can't take it home. you can't take 3 or 4 bullion pieces whom. >> it's an incredible collaboration. what is in it for google? >> they are showing off the

skills they have. i don't pretend to say what the business piece of it is. but the reality is doing this, three, four, five years from now. they'll be unique in the world. people will come here from all over the world. if they want to have that as their business, they could do that. they are interested to show that the abilities that they have put together can be, can have a positive impact on major scientific research, and people say google and medicine and science don't go together. listen up. because they can do this better than anybody. >> this is looking at what causes autism and possibly creating genetic therapies, we are looking at costs that people are facing. numbers that it's costs the united states, between 23 # and 262 billion a year. parents.

>> most paid for by parents. >> it's costing the families between 1.4 or 2.4. >> there's no disease as prevalent and nothing that you have to put so much of your own money into. that's why i do this. we are seeing more and more children becoming adults. this will be a long-term issue for the yate to support -- united states to support the kids that will become adults and support families. what is autism speaks doing. what are you pushing the government to do to make sure people can afford to care for people that need it. >> a lot of it has to happen at the local level. this is schools. this is community support. our communities embracing met them. the government will do so much, but they can do the medical side of this. they can do the insurance side of this. our next stage with parents is

to get parents to do so much more in the community. it's not hard work, but banding together their strength, potential strength, is greater than many believe it is. we'll be the network in television terms, the network and they are the affiliates. we'll work together from the top down and from the bottom up. from. >> i'll wish you the best with those efforts and the big partnership with google. so many depend on this. most americans see childhood as a special time when kids grow and learn, sheltered by parents and schools. according to a new study, the american medical association, a stunning number of kids experience neglect and abuns. between 2004 and 2011 more than 12% of american kids, one in eight experience maltreatment of some sort, including physical,

sexual and emotional abuse. i'm joined from new haip by christopher wilderman, associate professor and lead author of the study. government studies showed one in 100 u.s. kids suffer maltreatment. what you have done is look at not just one year, but 18 years of life. what you found alarming it the only way i can put it. >> that's right. what we did was take this annual estimate and accumulate it obvious the course of a child's childhood. by doing that we see that fully one in eight americans experience a confirmed maltreatment episode at some point. the numbers are based on cases reported, the child protection agencies around the country. there's a concern that it may be the tip of the ice brg.

something. >> yes, that's correct. the collaborators think of this. they'll be ab sent, because to be in the dataset. they'll go to - child protective services have to see it as sufficient to launch an investigation and they have to prove that child maltreatment occurred. it's a multi process. >> accumulative costs of kids that are mistreated are put at $124 billion. this is affecting everyone, list physical, sexual and emotion pal agus and neglect. maltreatment is a broad term. how much is neglect and how much is the more serious abuse. >> 80% of cases are neck lek,

and the other are physical and emotional abuse. the thing i would want to say about that is for maltreatment to be confirmed as neglect, they have to be so chronic or soofr that it's serious and has important implications. the example i give people is that neglect is not leaving your car running at the gas satisfaction, running in to get a coffee and sprinting out. it's a 7-year-old left to watch his 3-year-old and 1-year-old siblings on his own for three days, these experiences of neglect are severe. we mentioned the cost. tremendous. >> yes. if you make a list of all the things you never want to have happen with the kids, they are things that lead to.

it's devastating for lives. you found the risk of maltreatment was joke for boys and girls, but you found big disparities when you break it down by race and ethnicity. 21% for african american kids to less than 4% to aish and pacific islanders. what splaeps the distrep -- explains the discrepancies. >> if you think about child maltreatment, what drives that is people overwhelming by the things associated with parenting. the things that they need to take care of and not having the adequate resources to deal with the feelings. we think of this as a structural issue, where african american parents are more likely to feel overwhelmed by strans of parenting -- strains of parenting because they have few resources because of their structural position.

we think the racial ethnic disparities are driven by social ipp qualities on the other end. >> it's a socioeconomic issue race. >> i think it's right. one common misconception is that it's cultural differences in poem's perceptions of parenting that drives the differences. while there are cultural differences in personalitying, the parenting -- parenting, the parenting behaviours, no cultural group would feel comfortabl comfortable with. it's not that african-americans others. most of the maltreatment is by parents, in the fires -- first five years of life by parents or people known to the personalities.

what should be do. >> we need to develop proactive policies instead of reactive. what i mean is that we try to prevent child maltreatment after a child's maltreatment has been reported to child protective services. we wait until a child is maltreated and intervene on their behalf afterwards. we need proactive policies and there's a host of examples. what we are trying to do is not diminish children's risk of maltreatment, but we are trying to keep maltreatment from happening. we need to move from the reactive policies to reactive. from a financial cost. it may make sense to be preventive and proactive. thank you for calling attention to. appreciate you are drawing it to

our attention. we'll be back with more

there's more to finical news than the ups and downs of the dow. for instance, could striking workers in greece delay your retirement? i'm here to make the connections to your money real. you won't find it listed among the dangerous jobs, but look up whistleblower, and you'll find it listed as wrongdoing. a story in the "'financial

times'" laid out the price three whistleblowers paid for speaking out and ou fines violating financial laws may bedismissed as part of doing." i'm joined by bm d cohen, business writer and contributing editor and wrote about the cost to whesle blowers. -- whistleblowers. bill, good to have you here. how important are whistleblowers to washington, wall street and the enforcement of the rules? >> they are important to be the first key to unlocking the secret door about what is going wrong on wall street. because the prosecutors have subpoena power and document collection power. once they have an inkling that something is wrong, they can get everything they want. what the whistleblower helps to

do is understand the roadmap. translate some of the strange language that is used in the documents that might be confusing. >> they are an essential part of finding wrongdoing, as we saw with the financial crisis, it effects every american. why does there seem to be so little done to protect these people. dollar laws out this. as you point out in your example and many others, as soon as people make noises about issues that might exist they are demoted and fired. >> it's a treacherous business. it's oironic, here are people trying to go the right thing. they try to report. they are frustrate in the internal channels, and go externally to the f.c.c., justice department or other regulators, and get snuffed out, demoted. they lose their jobs. it's so ironic that here people

are trying to do the right jobs. >> why are the regulators not helping out. a lot of these people seem to help. >> they are obviously not employed by the regulators, but by the provide institutions that they are blowing the whistle on the part of that is trying to provide anonymity and protection for whistleblowers. that system is getting going now. we had a case last fall where an unknown whistleblower received $14 million from the f.c.c. this person is not known. people are speculating who it might be. 6-7 months later and the media and

>> there are a lot of people who do this. it costs them their job. the poem that i wrote about, did it and they have lost their jobs or quit out of frustration. nowadays there is protection. lawyers that work with whistleblowers will say "come to see me first, i'll protect your

identity and together we'll go to the regulatory body and share with them what you think has gone wrong." >> you don't address it, maybe you can now. is it worse on wall street than in other industries. we have very highly whistleblowers. >> i don't know if it's worse per se. human nature is human nature. there's wrongdoing, unfortunately, in every industry despite best efforts to behave. the thing about wall street is stakes are higher. there's more money, and there are probably, on a per capita basis, more investigations going on about wrongdoing on wall street than probably any other industries. when someone sees something go wrong, there's a lot more instances where they could report it or there's investigations going on or what difference.

>> one of the people you profile is at lehman brothers and blowing the whistle before the financial crisis. he started before and kept going until the end. why didn't they listen to this guy. i'm not saying that he could have possibly stopped the financial crisis. but certainly one of the main - lehman brothers is one of the biggest disasters in the financial crisis. it would have helped. >> he was focussing on the fact - oliver boudeau, and. he was in the general council office and believed lehman awarded top executives big chunks of restricted stocks. basically hiding it. it was outrageous what they were getting. he would have been okay if they reported it properly. he saw this going on, tried to report it. they didn't listen to him. he resigned and tried to report

it after he had resigned and they didn't listen to him. >> do you think the companies are lacking at this as a cost of doing business, that they can take risks, skirt the law, make money and pay the fine because they made o so much more money that it doesn't matter? >> these tips are jugger naughts. a whistleblower is something to be swatted away. the fines are just a cost of doing business. fascinating stories. good to have you with us. "consider this" will be right back. >> guns... >> there are two to three million guns in a population of only 8 million people. >> ...and gun laws... >> after those laws came in, there have been no more mass shootings... >> how different countries decide... >> their father had a gun... their grandfather had a gun... >> who has the right to bear arms?

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joust was a famous unders explorer explorer foust is joining us from a lab under the water. he's a film maker. we never had anyone join us from under water. it's freight to have you with us. 31 days in the lab, a little more than 50 years after your grandfather did something in the red sea. idea. >> it's a pleasure to join you from live under the sea. this is a first. my graf dreamed of -- grandfather dreamed of doing this. the technology was not there. we are honouring that legacy by

going 21 days in the acquirious laboratory. he did a series of habitats. he built them in the '60s, he was a pioneer that lived and worked upped the sea had its own right. we honour him, his team and the aqua naughts that allowed us to get to this point and this mission, 31. you said it's different because of the technology and you have been able to do saturation dive, allowing you to spend time in the water, studying what you want to study. >> you're correct. as opposed to, say, a sub marine where you are in a bubble a one atmosphere environment. isolated from the environment. here we are immersed in the environment. there's an apartment in the sea. for example, and we have a door to that aquatic world. we are

pressurised in the same ambient pressure. allowing us to dive six, eight, 10 t 12 hours a day as opposed to a scuba diver coming down from the surface, who has to be relegated back. >> the fact that you have and done the saturation, what happens when you are done, how do you get up. do you have to worry about decompression. it's a credit that we are taking and like anything else, it's a double edged sword. once we are done with the mission we have to decompress, taking 18.5 hours. what are you trying to achieve? what are you studying? >> in our family we felt that the ocean has been our life support system. and as such, we need to understand as a species, no

matter what political or geographic boundaries, the ocean pertain to us all. what is happening to the ocean is happening to us. so with that said, we are studying the effect of climate change, and certification on the core reef, as well as pollution issues, including run-off from fertilisers and manmade chemicals and why we should care. whether it's marine biologieses or another type of person. these things are important. we are doing it though the lens of adventure, so we can get young people to make better decisions. they'd be fascinated. the lab is the size of a school bus. six of you are living. what are the conditions like.

don't you have cabin fever. >> you may here activity in the background. it's a tight space. it's about the size of a school bus. it's 43 feet long by 9 feet wide or 13 metres by 3 metres, and the six of us have become new best friends. scientists, technicians, camera person and myself bonding toot nicely after 10 days, we'll have to sow what happens after 31. clearly you have entertainment. you have internet. what about food. you are limited in what eat. >> well, i wish we had time for entertain the. i think we are more entertaining. you cap watch us live on camera. but we are eating mainly things that astronauts and campers did. things that are freeze dried. because as through the

atmosphere, any open flame is a no, no. we cook with the microwave or hot water exclusively and pray for the times that we get fresh food delivers. >> it's a fascinating inspectors. wr grateful for you who have taken the time to join us towards the end. >> it would be my pleasure. >> a pleasure to have you with us. we'll be back with more of "consider this." >> every saturday, al jazeera america brings you controversial... >> both parties are owned by the corporations. >> ..entertaining >> it's fun to play with ideas. >> ...thought provoking >> get your damn education. >> ...surprising >> oh, absolutely! >> ...exclusive one-on-one interviews with the most interesting people of our time. >> you're listening because you want to see what's going to happen. >> i want to know what works what do you know works? >> conversations you won't find anywhere else. >> talk to al jazeera. >> only on al jazeera america. >> oh my!

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if you thought you were caught on tv viewing, you may want to grab a seat on the couch. halle berry, and live owen are in shows the networks never would have scheduled in the summer 15 years ago. why the change? we ask bill w wiman, an al jazeera culture critic. summer was a time for rerun, but networks are spending millions crank out new tv. this is a time when people are away. kids are at camp.

why so? >> sometimes you have a hit or a flop. now they play three-dimensional chest and have opponents above, besides and everyone is moving complicated in a complicated fashion, whether on the internet, opponent, networks or the new-fangled cable networks that are doing better and better programming. what happens is cyclicly every few years they say "nobody watches tv during the summer, let's throw something on the wall and see what sticks", they try that. there's a hit. like "under the dome", for c.b.s. everyone is on the bandwagon. you mentioned the opponent. cable networks pay and free and basic cable led the way. >> no, they honestly did. remember, this goes back 10 years, fox famously went all in on summer 10 or 12 years ago,

but what everywhere forgets is the shows they put up flopped. so it doesn't always happen. a.b.c. wept all in on summer four or five years ago "casino", "new jersey", "north shore", they flopped pd. we may never here them are they may not. we have "extant", halle berry in it and stooep spiel burg -- steech spiel burg producing it. >> we do. it's a big money gamble. steven spiel berg after his experience with "e.r.", doesn't have a hit streak. "terra nova", and "smash" was cancel. >> i loved "smash" and "terra noah". and there's "mistresses", and "under the dome", a success for

c.b.s. is coming up too. let's talk about cableful there's a lot of shows, including "clive owen and the nick", that will be gory. it's by mr steven soweder burg. it will be coming late in summer, about a during working out of the nicker knocker hotel when doctors learn been amnesteesia, it promises to be chrisly and gorey. >> an a big budget thing. you have a bunch of other shows returning. having some success. it's become a year-round scripted series. it was a reality show and we'll have those. we have "america's got talented", and "big brother." >> and "wife swap". >> not a favourite.

>> n.b.c. was the classiest network when it came to scripted shows. they stalk with "the office", and "parks and rock", there's a show "night shift", they did well with, but it's getting mediocre. another is aime which puler's brother has a comedy, about a guy that marries someone from swedeb. it looks to be quirky. we'll see if n.b.c. can get its moo back.ington washington tonne's mother. she won lifetime achievement awards.

she was a star on so many different levels, not only in front of on audience, but as a civil rights act visit giving a stirring speech at the march on washington before martin luther king's "i have a dream" speech. >> she's a person whose career spanned a remarkable century. this is someone in her teens when the depression hit. she was a friend of malcolm x and martin luther king. so many friend she saw cut down and with ozzie days, they were a team. she did indelible performances in "raisin in the sun", and "the jackie robinson story." it's a big loss. >> as always, good to have you with us. the conversation continues

on the website - aljazeera.com/considerthis. you can find us on twitter. see you next time. >> hello and welcome to al jazeera america. i'm del walters. these are the stories we're following for you. another american ship heads towards the iraqi gulf. and the armed group al-shabaab is blamed for an attack in kenya that has left dozens of people there dead.