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well i.s.i.l. fighters continue their struggle. other fighters who claim inspiration from islam are on the march in the middle east, pakistan and africa. in kenya al-shabab claimed responsibility for an overnight attack killing 50 people in a seaside town. thousands of refugees flee pakistan's tribal belt. the pakistani government blasts taliban sanctuaries following an

attack on the karachi airport attack that killed 38 people. 80 have been arrested in the palestine yn area after three teenagers were abducted. i'm joined by mr grenier, who served as director of the c.i.a. counterterrorism area, and chief in capital islamabad, and chairs of the advisory board for a firm offering corporate offense and security advice in strategic and development sectors. i.s.i.l. is justifying the slaughters, saying it's trying to build a fundamentalist muslim stast. how many of this -- state. how much of this is rhetoric for recruitment and how much is a statement of purpose?

>> if you are talking about i.s.i.l., it's a statement of purpose. it may be instrumental in their ability to attract fighters and funds. they mean what they say. that said, the scope of what they can achieve in syria and iraq is somewhat limited. they are on the march in iraq. but it will be difficult for them to gain traction outside of the sunni dominated areas. part of the reason they are focused on iraq is they have probably reached the natural limits of the strength in syria for the time being. >> it's a lot of land they have taken in syria and iraq. it could be a significant country if they keep control. >> let's turn to al-shabab. we heard about them and their attacks. they are based in somalia and been on the rampage in kenya, across the border since the westgate mall attack killing 67 people. they killed 50 people, most of whom were watching world cup

matches at hotels and in a police station. they talk about fundamentalists islamic rule and they are not happy with how kenya fought against them. they are seeing travel warnings for people that are going to kenya, that will have consequences on the kenyans. >> absolutely. again, al-shabab wants to establish a fundamentalist state in somalia. they made agreed strides in that direction a number of years ago. it's because of the involvement of the african union that they have been driven out of the major cities and had a difficult time in recent years. part of what they are trying to do by shifting the scene of battle to kenya is trying to put political pressure on the government to withdraw pressure and give them scope to go on the incentive. >> across the continent in nigeria, hundreds of school

girls kidnapped by boko haram, they claimed they'd sell them as sleys slaves, and they have been relentless. they captured the world attention, and nothing has happened to them. >> well, at the end of the day it's the responsibility of the nigerian government to do something about the group. this will include the united states, they can provide assistance, and particularly lethal assistance to the extent that the u.s. extends drone strikes, but the solution to this problem if nigeria is if and when the government is able to assemble the capacity to deal with the problem on a permanent basis, unless and until they are capable of doing that, there's no solution. >> do you think the pakistani government will do that against the taliban. we have seen their ability to strike, a bunch of brutal

attacks since 2007. thousands died. do you think the pakistani government is saying enough is enough after a murderous attack at the airport. >> with pakistan, you never know. the fact that the army moved into north waziristan, something they have resisted doing, it's a significant step. the army wanted to do this for months. it has taken them that long to convince the civilian government in islamabad that they should be permitted to do this. i see some disturbing signs, the fact that they are focussing on the foreign presence in north waziristan, the fact that most of the casualties of the air strikes have been foreigners. i think that demonstrates that they are concerned about the political impact in pakistan of their killing pakistanis. they'll have to be willing to kill pakistanis if they achieve gapes. they have made a start. we'll see how much staying power they have, particularly after we

see a backlash, as we will, from the militants outside the tribal areas, in the urban centers of pakistan itself. >> we have a kidnapping of israeli teenagers, hamas denied they are responsible. others claimed responsibility. the israeli prime minister says hamas is responsible. an interesting development is the head of the palestinian authority your condemned the kidnappings, offered to help the israelis. hamas is not happy with that, calling it a poisonous knife in the back of our people. this? >> i think so. behind the scenes what we see is continuing cooperation on the part of the palestinian security services dominated by fatah. let's be clear about that. they have been working closely for years with the israelis and continue to do so, and would like to recover the three young men.

what i think we see more broadly than that is politics op both sides. hamas does not want to support fatah in what it is doing. they don't see a political gain for themselves. at this point we don't know, i don't believe, who is behind the kidnappings, and the fact ta israelis are quick to blame hamas. so many counterterrorism problems around the world. the governments of the countries, where it's happening. if they don't take charge, it will be difficult to be the sheriff of the whole world. >> happy to be here. >> three venezuela opposition leaders are facing arrest after resisting a court summons to testify in relation to a plot to assassinate a prime minister. the three are a former director

of an oil company, a prominent attorney, and a former presidential canned days, u.n. ambassador. venezuela's attorney-general says that while the three have not been charged in the alleged assassination plot, she plans to ask interpol for arrest warrants as they are believed to be out of the country. one is, he's sitting here. i'm in new york, joined by one of the three opposition leaders. he has run for president of venezuela, and served as a permanent member, representative of the united nations and i have known you for a good part of my life as i have known others. both of you live in the united states. an allegation is that you have - you know, left the country not with. >> both of us are u.s. residents. i should have been called here. she knew perfectly

well. this would be laughable anywhere, except in venezuela, where the regime is danger, and they work with the cubans, who have a good international people. >> in fact, they have come out with a presentation, pamphlet talking about the adelaide assassination -- alleged assassination plot that you are involved in as a prelude to a cue de tar and the u.s. ambassador to columbia has been accused of being involved. and the u.s. government said the charges are baseless and false. they have come up with no proof of the allegations, the new york times called it theatrical. what do they want? >> the purpose is to neutralize anyone who is a dissident and forcefully expresses the views. this is the case of my child, myself, among others, who have strongly opposed the regime. it is different to oppose the

regime. i speak it for them. i came from speaking at the house of parliament and great britain. the house of commence, and et cetera. that worries the government. they are trying to intimidate us. this way actually they do not want him to return to the country. they call me as a witness. witness to want. they want to ambush me. i was not going to be a witness, i was going to be put in gaol when i present eyes. >> the government talked on monday to a main opposition leader, out in front of many of the protests and has been a big voice abroad, speaking in brazil and canada, speaking to politicians, they have been putting the word out there. is that what you are saying, they are trying to neutralise the main foreign voices of venezuelans abroad. >> why is this happening now. it's happening because the

regime is collapsingment the economy is collapsing. there's in flayings of 70%. it's basic good. >> they say that that is all the u.s.'s fault, and there's a conspiracy of the economy or government. >> they can say what they like. it's the insurgent collapsing, and the me in charge of the presence is actual collapsed before the eyes of its own people. so it is a sign much desperation to create a fantasy that we are being accused of. the generals were involved a month or two months ago are free. they are free. they have invented some of us. >> the paper coup is they have a series of emails. >> emails. >> that allegedly - i know one of the others says he's calling

on google to show that they are forgeries, thets have taken emails. >> i was copied in an email. >> you didn't originate. you were on the list of emails. >> and they put it on television, credit cards, they hacked buy computer. they put it on television to prove i had access to internet, that i had paid my internet with it. it was a crime that i was able to enter the internet. this is a concoction. i ridiculous fantasy. the international commission of journalists in europe said that one of the problems in vens are is the -- venezuela is the judiciary. it has become part of the government persecution of the opposition, because they simply do what the government wants. including the supreme court. >> strongly on some terms.

they don't have an independent judiciary, which is the case much the venezuela tribunalals, the cue ones are a major interest. why? because venezuela is the golden ex-chicken, the one that lays thing. if venezuelan fails to help cuban, $10 million a year, that will be a disaster. they decided to push. let's get rid of anyone that can disturbance. >> i hate to ask question because i feel it's ridiculous. i know you'd like there to be new elections and different administration in venezuela. do you have any intention of maduro? >> well, i didn't conspire in public.

i haven't made many statements public. i conspire openly. this is a government that betrayed the venezuela, that the president is illegal. we have given up our sovereignty to cuba. more than that it's impossible to say. talking about your public opposition, you were out on the front lines talking to the military on the streets as we see in the pictures. do you think interpol will you. >> the interpol knows who is in charge. i hope they know that i have been involved in most of the crisises of the last 15-20 years in iraq and yugoslavia. helping reconciliation society and bringing peace to parts of the world. the opposite of what the regime is doing. >> good to have you on the show. thank you for coming in. >> thank you. i'm safer here today. you probably are. time to see what is trending

on the web with harmeli aregawi. >> turning back to the situation in iraq, where militant groups are using social media like youtube, facebook and twitter to spread a violent message. sunday twitter pulled i.s.i.l.'s account after they posted graphic photos of an alleged mass killing of soldiers. i.s.i.l. is savvy in the way it uses social media. the group has been capital icing n o the world cup. using the hashtag world cup, they tweeted images of a decapitated head. they have an arabic language twitter app, a product advertising a way to keep up with the latest news about the jihadi group. once you sign up. it's tweeted out of your members.

it helps to spread the message. the iraqi government blocked twitter, facebook and youtube in an effort to disrupt the group. let us know what you think. did twitter do the right thing, blocking i.s.i.l.'s account. tweet us. back to you. it's incredible what they are doing, a lot of vial images. thank you. straight ahead - the surprising number of children snuggled across the u.s. border, wanting to get caught. we'll explain. from car washes to massages, perks offered to employees across the country. why is hollywood focussing on the streams? huge block busters or tiny indy films.

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the u.s. border patrol agents. there are numerous reports of women and children in large groups coming across the border and going up to the border patrol agents, wanting to get court, leading to warehouses full of people. border? >> we have seen record numbers in the rio grand valley str of otms - other ert than mexicans. they are accounting for about three-quarters of our apprehensions in that sector. it's something not seen there before. is that why it's causing a problem, that there is a large influx of children and children and other people from central america, not mexicans? >> one of the things that our strategy showed is illegal agents go where border patrol does not. they used to cross in san diego. we fortified na area.

we went to elcentro, tuscon in arizona, and as we increased the infrastructure and the mann power. the rio grand valley is a place it was feared it next. >> we have heard about many people going through the desert, that if people are pushed to go through the desert, and we heard of hundreds dying. here we are seeing people crossing the border in plain sight, rather than sneaking in. we saw stream cases of guys ferried across the rio grand in a jat stream. >> if you are part of a family group or an unaccompanied juvenile, you are being released, allowed to continue to your original destination, or a juvenile, to a relative in the u.s. we feel that that is driving this

surge of illegal aliens coming through the valley, without a consequence we believe it will happen. >> the problem is that mexicans are easy to deport. >> when coming from central america, there's no way we are set up to deal with the influx. that's where we are getting appearance notices and the fear is that they'll disappear into the united states and become undocumented. people here in the u.s. >> well, with mexicans, we have a treaty with mexico. most mexicans are not deported. they were what is called a voluntary return. they elected not to see an immigration judge and ask for a voluntary return. that's how we deal with the vast majority of illegal aliens, we can't do that. we don't have treaties with central american countries that

we can do that. and it's not having them directly on the border makes them more difficult to return them to the country of origin. with the juveniles, yes, they are being released. the family groups are being given what is called an nta, notice to appear, and they were given is court date. history shows most people released on their own recognisant and given an nta, upwards of 80% don't show up to the hearing. >> is it your thinking that american policies encourage people to come? >> we think the genesis of the problem may be the violence in central america, or the dire economic circumstances. that is what we here from the people apprehended or that have surrendered. by and large what we are seeing is the word is out in central america, and they are saying that they have heard on the government raid why, television,

that the u.s. is issuing permisos, allowing people to stay because we are not enforcing immigration laws. we have heard about securing the border. areas? >> we have. we don't have the mann power and the infrastructure that we have in other areas. just like water, which takes the path of least resist apps, that is how immigration is in the u.s. they are going to go where the agents aren't. we have to react to the trends and the flows of illegal immigration, and that's what is happening here. the cartels which control illegal immigration and drug smuggling are able to change up the operation asks we have to follow suit when that happens. >> it's creating a humanitarian crisis. appreciate you joining us to border. >> thank you.

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be a place where ideas flourish, our next guest says the business model is uncreative. this summer is app example of what successful film plufr linda okay calls tent polls and tad polls. tent polls, the big monsters, like transformers for godzilla. and the tad poles, small independent films and lost in the middle of r are the ones that fall in the middle. we are joined by a producer. her book "sleepless in hollywood", is now out in paper back. you talk about the tent poles and tad poles mentioned. hollywood loves success. they copy it over and over and over again. we keep getting big sequels made. independent films seem to pick

up the market on the low-budget end for people that care about substantial films, but you say we are losing out on a bunch of movies that used to be great, and movie goers are missing out. >> they used to be called original movies, movies without preawareness or titles you heard of. they are not getting made or made rarely. >> in some cases you are talking about films like forest gumps, "field of dreams", "the graduates", some of the classics made. >> in most cases it wouldn't be made because you can't condense the story into a title like "godzilla", or "avengers", you haven't heard of them. the business has radically changed.

i had this happen at my father's day dinner. i said "i didn't realise you had seen "frozen." " and he said he saw it on a computer. and my son had seen "wolf of wall street", which i wasn't thrilled about, on a computer. what do you do? >> i think we vote with our legs. you have to go to the movies to influence what is made. the way we influence the movies is seeing hits we didn't expected to see. we made hits out of the heat. this summer there's tonnes of comedies being made when there weren't last year, i thought comedy was dead. in the summer of sequels everyone was so bored with cities blowing up that they were happy to see comedies. now they are made again. it's hard to get people to vote with their legs.

if we know they have to push or wait a couple of months. paying much less for the experience watching the movies. to some extent we don't require the experience of being in a movie theatre. we didn't get a lot out of them tv. >> every time a new medium was depth we think an old medium was dead. we thought that television was going to kill mvies in the first place, and movies survived. and once again we think movies are going to die because people are going to movies partly because the special effect were phenomenal. even though your son was downloading movies like frozen. my granddaughters saw it four

times, and several hundred times on the computer. >> one of the things we bring up is how dvds went away, that hurt the business. they were getting so much of their income from that. how much of this has to do with the international audiences. you may not get it for a godzilla or "edge of tomorrow." the collapse of the dvd market was the whole thing. it was the profit margin. suddenly the movie business which was frozen realised that the new profits came from the emerging market and the international community. and when "avatar", and "titan yik" came out. huge movies with gigantic explosions and preaware titles

like harry potter or doubt date. >>twilight." >> that's right. or "avatar "or transformsers. suddenly the movie made action move oils, special effect. where dialogue was less important and phenomenal set pieces take over. >> fascinating book, a lot of interesting ideas. "sleepless in hollywood", thank you for joining us. >> thank you for having me. >> that's all for now. coming up tuesday on "consider this" - as the u.s. military considers action in iraq we'll get the inside word of what is next in the mission rear-admiral john kirby. and how the coke brothers built their fortunes and became a powerful force in u.s. politics. the conversation

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