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a little too early to write him off for life. >> should they be locked away for good? >> he had a tough upbringing but he still had to have known right from wrong. a prime suspect in the benghazi attack in the custody, why did it take so long. the latest on the presidential election. president obama takes a step to save the pacific ocean. how much of a difference will it make. the coke brothers amass huge political power. parties. i'm antonio mora, and this is "consider this".
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here is more of what is ahead. >> new fears that iraq is moving closer to the kind of sectarian apart. >> the united states is positioning nearly 300 armed troops in and around iraq. >> this is a messy situation. >> major development concerning the attack on the u.s. embassy in benghazi. >> a ringleader was captured. >> when americans are attacked. no matter how long it takes we'll find those responsible and bring them to justice. >> leaders will talk about oceans. >> the protection of the oceans is a vital international security issue. >> when we work together we can protect the oceans. >> i'm pledging an additional $7 million to meaningful ocean conservation projects. >> we begin with american special forces in the pot light. for a year and a -- spotlight. for a year and a half the u.s.
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hunted those responsible in the benghazi attack in libya, that killed ambassador christopher stevens in three others. the first person was taken into custody after a raid in libya. >> our special force, showing courage and precision were able to capture an individual, ahmed abu chattalah, who was - who is alleged to have been one of the master minds of the attack. >> but the enthusiasm of the capture has been tempered by questions as to why it took so long to find a suspect. print and television reporters had interviewed him since the attack. the operation to arrest ahmed abu chattalah came as the obama administration is considering sending special forces troops to advice and train the iraqi military. the president invited senate and congressional leaders to the
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white house on wednesday amid concerns over the u.s. response to the rising sectarian response. i.s.i.l. is fighting to control bacuba, 40 miles north of baghdad, with reports that u.s. intelligence has been hampered. how prepare is the u.s. for action. we are joined from the pentagon by rear-admiral kirby. why did it take so long to get the guy? reporters like c.b.s. news correspondence elizabeth palmer spoke to him weeks after the attack, saying he didn't look like a wanted man, he was sipping mango juice across the table from her. >> first of all, what matters is he has no longer sipping mango juice in libya, he's in custody. that's number one.
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number two, while he may have found it enjoyable talking to reporters, they are good at evading justice. it takes a long time to have enough information and the resources in the right places to conduct a mission like this, it's a complex military organization done in coordination with law enforce: this was not about rushing, but we wanted to make sure it was successful. it was, americans are safer as an as a result. the people of libya are. >> talk about coordination. the federal bureau of investigation and other agencies had trouble getting access because of the libyan government, and the u.s. government we have learnt did not notify the libyans about the raid. so is that lack of cooperation long? >> no, look, we are not getting into the diplomatic did you suggests. the libyan government was notified at the appropriate time.
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again, these kinds of people, they work hard not to get caught. they work hard not to get captured. it takes you the proper amount of time to work through all that, work through the rite information, have the resources where you node it and do the -- need it. and do the accord nation, the unilateral, united states mission, to work through the pieces of getting that right.. >> do we believe, as some have described him, that he was the ringleader of the attack? >> well, the president said it pretty clearly - certain he is alleged to have been a key figure in the benghazi attack. it was based on the information that we had to support that allegation that we used to go after him. >> do we think that getting him will lead to more rests? >> well, i think they are going to ask him lots of questions, and, you know, it won't -
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obviously it certainly stands to reason that we are going to want to talk to him to get as much information out of him as we can. should it lead to future such operations - again, that's to the betterment of the american people. this is a dangerous individual, and this was a dangerous mission and operation to get him. successful. >> where will the questions be asked. what happens to him now. >> he is at a secure location outside libya. there is a law enforcement team talking to him now. i won't get into the details of how that process is ongoing. but it is ongoing. >> now, special forces pulled off the raid. the president now as we move on, let's talk about iraq. he has several military options on the table. one of them is to send special forces in. do we expect that to happen?
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>> the president has not made specific decisions with respect to military options for iraq. he and the national security team are reviewing them i wouldn't want to get ahead of a decision the president may or may not make. as you know, there's a small contingent of u.s. military personnel in iraq since 2011, less than 200, that advise and have. we ordered additional security personnel into baghdad to assist with security at the embassy. the president and the national security team are reviewing the situation and watching what is happening in iraq. we need to let that continue. how soon do you think it will happen? vice president joe biden is in brazil. he said urge assistance is required. but the administration is debating what to do? >> i don't know that it's
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debating, but looking at options. everyone is watching the situation in iraq with the same sense of shared urgency about what is going on. it's more important to make the right decision, to get them done well that to rush into anything. i think the national security team is taking that very deliberate, measured but focussed effort. >> one thing where there has been mixed signals is whether we'd cooperate with the iranians in helping the iraqis. secretary of state john kerry said it was a possibility. the pentagon dialled that back. >> what we said from the pentagon is we are not going to consult with iran, we won't j a military to military discussion with iranians. we are not going to do that. secretary of state john kerry was referring
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to the fact that we have had discussions about the issue of security, and on the sidelines of the p5+1 talks in vienna, it's a possibility that we could have a discussion with iranian officials about the situation in iraq. and i think that's what he was referring to, but we are not going to consult with iran or iran's leaders about military activities in iraq. >> there's a lot of concern about the intelligence there in iraq. we heard adam schiff, the senior member of the house intelligence committee saying: how hampered is our intelligence assets in iraq these days? >> intelligence it never a
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perfect science, it requires a lot of work and effort. we don't have a huge intelligence or military presence there in iraq, which is why the commander in chief ordered us to intensify our isr support for the iraqi security forces, and we have done that. we have been, over the last several months, helping the iraqi security forces with isr coverage over the country. we intensified that. continue. a big challenge for the defense department for the military with everything that is going on in iraq and syria and the threat posed by the group. a pleasure to have you with us. thank you for joining us. >> thank you, enjoyed it. appreciate it. joining us for the latest in iraq is omar al saleh, al jazeera correspondent. he joins us from baghdad. good to see you. let's start with what is going on in the capital. reports of suicide bombings and
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violence. how safe are things there? >> the latest is there's a car bomb north-east of baghdad, killing seven people, and injuring a dozen. now the developments are really progressing quickly. we have clashes in eastern of the capital baghdad. we are told that the government has repelled a number of fighters trying to overtake certain neighbourhoods in the town of bacuba to the east. now, in other parts of the so-called belt of baghdad, the clashes are reported. however, the fighters from islamic state in iraq and levant are in control of small towns that are not far from the capital baghdad. you have the prime minister sacking top ministry commanders
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in nanoa, where mosul is the capital - that fell to the hands of the rebels. the prime minister sacked four top commanders and referred them to a court martial. >> we are talking to the prime minister. he has been asked to reach out to sunnis and kurds by president obama and others. instead he's going the other way, lashing out at saudi arabia, for promoting genocide as the sectarian violence is getting worse. saudis, and sunnis in the past were believed to have supported i.s.i.l. >> yes, there's that line coming from the government. the government didn't change that line for the last few years. accusing the saudis of funding terror unfortunate groups. events that started in the last two weeks, in the other
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development here, politically, the latest is that the prime minister, along with other political leaders, held a meeting, and they came out with a statement in the last 15 minutes or so he says the iraqi people need to stand united against terrorism and the political leaders need to overcome their personnel differences. they called on iraqis to leave aside sectarian talk and sectarian practices, and calls on regional and international countries to back the iraqi government and maintain its forces against what they describe as a terrorist campaign against the nation. but, on the other hand we are seeing the first possible signs of a backlash against sunnis in sectarian violence
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against sunnis. there's an incident with prisoners and a government-controlled police station in bacuba and young men killed in baghdad. are she items now reacting by killing sunnis. >> well, we are - what we saw in bacuba today is a case that all iraqis, i would say, are scared to see, because the attack that took place on a prison where around 60 inmates believed to be all sunnis were executed with a single bullet in the head. and another in the chest. now reports from that town indicate that was carried out by shi'a militias. the government denied the report and said it was members of the i.s.i.l. fighters and executed the inmates.
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this sign brings us back to the sectarian violence that we saw during 2005, and up in 2006, during the u.s. presence here in this country. you have both sides committing atrocities. but nobody really can confirm any of it. i think we are beginning to witness such attacks but so far it's not widespread, yet i think there is fear that it could reach to other parts of iraq, war. >> a lot of people dying. appreciate you joining us to talk about in. thanks. iraq's descent into chaos is disturbing for the american servicemen and women that served there. for them, watching cities they fought hard to windfall swiftly led to a range of reactions to anger and sadness over lives
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lost and thoughts about what the u.s. should do now. joining us from san francisco is a specialist from the u.s. army during the iraq war, a heavy weapons machine-gunner. he spent nine months in mosul, taken by i.s.i.l. militants and author of "my war - killing time in iraq", we are joined by joe diamond from philadelphia, a marr each sergeant serving in ballujah in 2005-2006. he is the manager of dynamic materials, developing mc-kerredy's army, named after a friend killed in fallujah. joe, you have been watching developments closely in iraq. you were in fallujah. the deadliest battle american forces fought was in the city. it was taken by i.s.i.l. a few months ago in january, the first city i.s.i.l. took before the latest offensive.
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you have been talking to other vets and their families, what is your rehabilitation and what are you hearing from them? >> yes, it's heart-breaking. we put so much effort into gaining that city, maintaining it, and building a secure city where people were moving in and starting to build lives, and to have it fall that quickly - it's horrible. i mean, i think we knew it would happen if we pulled out. watching it happen is a kick in the gut. >> you knew, you felt - knew in your gut that mosul wouldn't - that fallujah wouldn't hold on forever if the u.s. left? >> we knew there would be - if the u.s. walked away, we knew there would be a civil war. it was a matter of time. the - the vibe between the sunnis and shiites was too deep. they were trying to fight while we were next to them. we knew once we left that it
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would get ugly, it was a matter of time. the biggest shock came when mosul, iraq's second-largest city fell to the insurgents. must be hard to know you risking your life and others died fighting for the city. does it feel that the fighting was in vain. >> it was a big vok. i was there from 2003 to 2004. i remember me and fellow soldiers talking about how this would happen. i remember being there, going on joint missions with the army, and the impression i received is we would do the fighting. it would be in support, and why would they put their lives at risening and shed blood when americans were $to do that for them. so now that we are not there, it's going to have to be up to those. >> you are saying the same thing joe said, that both of you knew this would happen, most of the
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people you fought with knew it would happen if you pulled out. how do you react to the fact that we did spend almost a trillion dollars there, so many american lives, more than 4,000, happening? >> this is the beginning. we haven't seen the end result of what will happen. we don't know yet if american soldiers - it looks that way, but we don't know what the ute come of the situation right now is going to be. >> the overwhelming amount of reporting we have seen about what veterans are saying is most are asking themselves what do we do that for. is it casting a shadow over the fact that you guys served nobly, you got rid of a murderous tyre apt and let the country establish a democratic government. if the democratic government is failing now? >> yes. i mean certainly it casts a shadow.
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honestly, that's why i'm here. i struggled with whether to do these interviews, and i finally came to the end result that i needed to do it for the men dropped in baghdad right now. men like myself, who ended up in iraq, fighting for something with no real clear mission, no clear goals. we knew, we secured things. the second we pulled out in 2011, we knew it was a matter of time, you know. here is a shiite government who this revenge in mind for a sunni population who ruled them for a long time. and in the process we knew it would happen. it's painful to watch. and as i'm watching the guys dropped on the ground. the only thing i'm saying to the politicians is everyone was quick to say we didn't have an end game the first time around. before anyone is hurt, you better figure out the end game. >> you have been quoted as
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having talked to the mother of one of the people who fought with you. reaction. >> yes, yes. i mean, i keep this touch with the families of all the men, all the friends i lost, and, you know, as fallujah was falling and other cities were falling, she had two lines that stuck with me and it's, "this is a mother's worse nightmare. my poor son nick died for nothing. what was it for?" what should we do? >> give the iraqi people everything they need, weapons, arms to exterminate the i.s.i.l., exterminate every one of them. >> but no troops there. >> no, this isn't our sword fight, it's up to the iraqi people to finish. >> what do you think, joe? drone strikes, air strikes, supporting the iraqis, but no boots on the ground? >> definitely no boots on the ground. i honestly question drone strikes.
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my concern is, you know, we start dropping bombs on these guys, what happens next. iran comes in and starts building up the shiite government. they will not pull the sunnis, they'll not say, "okay, guys, let's get along now", what happens next. we need to think long term. something we haven't done in a while. what is the ultimate goal and end game and commit to that. not the "we're tired of it, done with it", like we did in 2011. there's too much blood lost to make these decisions without thinking the end game through. a dangerous situation in a country that means a lot to a lot of americans, especially those that fought there. tonight. >> thank you. >> thank you, sir. for more stories from around the world.
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we begin in nigeria, soldiers arrested 500 suspected boko haram after intercepting a convoy of more than 30 buses in southern nigeria. the islamist militant group kidnapped more than 200 girls. the arrests are good news but raise fears that boko haram is spreading to southern nigeria, after being mostly contained in the northern areas of the country. next we head to nebraska, where residents return to piil ger after twin tornados tore through the town on monday. two died during the storm. three-quarters of the up to was destroyed, including the business district, fire station and 40 homes. a state of emergency has been declared and tom c working to make sure no one is trapped. we end in washington d.c. where a hidden portrait of an unidentified man is uncovered beneath "the blue room", an early master piece of pablo picasso, painted at the
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beginning of his blue period when he likely couldn't afford new canvases. investigators found it using infrared imaging. using x-ray mapping, they plan to ree create the original portrait in the original colours used by picasso. that is some of what is happening around the world. coming up, allegations of fraud from both sides in the afghanistan election. what does it mean for the u.s.? president obama announces a big move to clone up the potion. make. harmeli aregawi is tracking top stories on the web. what is tracking? >> social media buzzed after u.s. beat ghana in the first round of the world cup. the spotlight turned to delta airlines in what is called giraffe-gate. while you watch let us know what you think. join the conversation. >> start with one issue
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what was supposed to be the first peaceful hand over of power may lead to violence with both candidates claiming fraud. former foreign minister abdullah abdullah said former finance minister ashraf ghani was leading by nearly a million votes showed a fraud was under way. an abdullah abdullah senior campaign aid suggested that hamid karzai may be involved. ashraf ghani's campaign is making fraud claims of its own, a suggestion that abdullah abdullah may not accept defeat was a violation of the constitution, electoral laws and the fundamental rules of election for more on what is shaping up to be a mess i'm joined by ambassador peter gobray, as a special representative for afghanistan, he helped to uncover massive voting fraud in the 2009
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election. always good to see you. both candidates have agreed to sign the agreement with the united states. they seemed to be better partners about the u.s. than hamid karzai. both candidates reframe from premature judgments and criticisms not supported with clear evidence. they don't seem to advice? >> first, i know both men and either would be a better partner than hamid karzai. they both are intelligent, stable, good head on their shoulders, and better partner than the erratic hamid karzai. the problem in afghanistan is it doesn't have an impartial or transparent election system. the independent election commission so-called is not independent. all the members of appointed by hamid karzai.
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he points the members of the electoral complaint commission, the body meant to make judgments about complaints and the subsidiary officials that carry out elections come under his control. in 2009 he was a candidate, and the it was people that carried out the elections that instituted the fraud. the hope was that the election officials would carry out an impartial election was hamid karzai was not on the ballot. and they would be - want to be on the good side of who have it was that won. indeed, in the first round, it seems to have gone off well, large turn out. 7 million people. and, of course, there's going to be a certain amount of fraud and election in a country emerging from the conditions of afghanistan. i think people generally accepted the result. the
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trouble in this round is first that the turn out was reported by the election commission, to be 7 million, when general anecdotal reporting suggested that it might be less than that. there's the problem that took place in 2009, apparently, which is that in some of the least stable provinces the places where the turn out should be the least, you have high turn out, and that is a dubious figure. in some cases they have a larger turn out than voters. and that the broader problem is because the system isn't impartial, that the candidates can't have confidence in it. >> how do you think it will play out. abdullah abdullah
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suggests he will not lose. it could have been the first peaceful transfer of power. >> the trouble is given the history, it will be hard to have confidence that the election results were fair. they may be fair. we don't know the evidence of fraud. in isn't a record - there isn't a process in which a candidate can have confidence. i understand the candidate's expressing concerns before the results are tabulated. if it's done after, they look like they are sore losers. this is a problem to which there is not app obvious solution. -- an obvious solution. it's not fair to ask either candidate to accept a result that is fraudulent. >> a lot of things are at stake. we'll stay on top of the storey. we appreciate you joining us. thank you.
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>> good to be with you. turning to the environment. president obama used a state department summit on recking the oceans -- protecting the oceans attended by 80 countries to announce how he would build on his predecessors. >> like clinton and bush i'll use authority to protect sea land scales like for the mountains, riff and forests. >> it will create a large sanctuar sanctuary, an area from 87,000 to 182,000 square miles for more won what this could mean for our ailing oceans same joined by the vice president of ocean conserve si, a nonprofit group. the marine sanctuary is huge, a fifth of all of the united
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states, including alaska. why are they important? >> that is a gret question. protecting large areas of the ocean is important for biodiversity, animals, ecosystems ipp habited by them. importantly, we think that this designation signals an energy and interest and leadership from the obama administration to protect and conserve the os. >> is it about the message. he's hoping to ban fishing and energy exploitation from this large area. this is really far away, called the pacific remote islands monument. how much of an impact will the proposal have? >> this is a large area, and this is significantly - this is a far distance from any population center. these are pristine waters that
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really encompass really rich b biodiversity and special places in terms of animals and habitats. i think the real opportunity here is that we have the option of protecting the areas with minimal impact to economic activities, whether it's recreational fishing or commercial fishing. >> how sick are the oceans? we have heard about pollution, including the pacific garbage patch referred to as the pacific trash vor tech, is that the probleming vortex. is rule or the exception. >> there's a lot of challenges facing the ocean. we were excited to see the state department focus on three top challenges that ocean conservatory staff have been working on - marine debris, fishing.
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the public has been able to nominate marine sanctuaries and great lakes off the east and west coast. those would have more of an impact than this? >> there's a lot of important special places worthy of the protections in the marine environment. we are excited about the administration's environment, about letting the public engage in that, highlight the areas that they thing are important, that they value. it's a longer process, one we on. >> secretary of state john kerry was the host. but the star was leonardo dicaprio. he pledged 7 million over two years. he's getting involved in contributing that money. is there any risk in using a movie star.
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leonardo dicaprio made a $7 million commitment. we don't think that's trivial. one of the intentions of this ocean summit was to have a call for action to the government. engaging people over the world. not just from an environmental standpoint. economic, recreational importance. what better way to work with a celebrity. >> it's an important cause, good of you to join us and bring us up to date. time to see what is trending on the web. >> delta ai lines learnt tough lessons after the u.s. ghana soccer game. the u.s. beat the african country 2-1.
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social media was buzzing. atlanta based american airlines was excited. they tweeted the photo, congratulating the team. the u.s. is represented by the statue of liberty and ghana a giraffe. giraffes don't live in ghana, as people pointed out. many said the tweet reinforced stereotypes about africa. it was tweeted: and: det delta geared into damage control - with a typo. they deleted that and said: the incident is called giraffe-gate and noted as the
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first social media fail of this year's world cup. let us know what stories you'd like to see featured on the show. tweet your suggestions. back to you. giraffe-gate. >> what a name. thank you. ahead, the coke brothers feared by the left and cheered by the right. both sides have misconceptions. the author of a book sets the record straight. want to get away from a while. the cheapest cities to visit may be your favourites. the u.s. gets ready for the >> i'm ali velshi, the news has become this thing where you talk to experts about people, and al jazeera has really tried to talk to people, about their stories. we are not meant to be your first choice for entertainment. we are ment to be your first choice for the news. >> i'm joie chen, i'm the host of america tonight, we're revolutionary because
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the coke brothers are modern day boogie men for the left, heroes on the right. they poor vast amounts of money
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into libertarian course, mostly aligning with the republican party, and maintaining a private life. a new book shows boys impacted commune. >> after he witnessed stawell yin. the book tracks their rise from sons of privilege to political powerhouses. we are joined by a senior editor for "mother jones." fascinating topic and book. you have been provide. an achievement not too many manage to do. >> let's start with the diswiption of who the coke -- definition of who the coke brothers are. we think of david and charles, who run the coke industry. bill. >> paternal twins. >> there are four brothers. >> they don't necessarily get
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along. there was a battle ove inheritance. >> they had one of the most epic feuds in history. this battle lasted about 20 years. and on one side you had fredrik and bill, and on the other charles and david. they unleashed private detectives, and had fears of moles. bill coke allegedly set up a fake head-hunting shop to download coke industry exist on what was happening. these were the tactics in use. >> it probably goes back to their dad, a duff guy that made a fortune in the oil business, and started in texas, ended up in kansas. what was interesting about him is he went to the soviet union to help with oil refineries back in the stalin days, and came back so horrified by what he
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saw, he became a founder of the communist. >> he went to the soviet union. he was sued. the seeds of the family fortune were built in stalin. he was horrified by what he had seen and his role to essentially modernize the soviet oil industry and baif the way for industrialization. he was present in the room literally when the john burt group was founded. charles coke became a member. day. >> he turned against them because the vietnam war. >> charles was influenced by the fledgeling libertarian movement of that era. and charles coke takes out an ain liner tarian add, enraging the john burt society.
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he was hor or less pushed out. he was on to different things. that was the break between his dad's politics and the libertarian movement, which wasities i'd logical project. >> david ran for vice president. this didn't make them popular with republicans. >> no, they were trying to find a third way. they wanted to demolish the two party system. they were trying to reach the trying to reach the left and the right. that's what the goal was. they wanted to find people that wanted to advance freedom in all its forms. whether it's refructive rights or -- reproductive right or pro gay issues. that's the biggest miss conception. you think of them as right wing tea partiers, but they are not issues. >> no, not on conservative issues.
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they do aline with social conservatives. you don't see them putting money behind gay marriage. they will make common calls across the spectrum. >> theirs is anti-reg u lat tri, why they align with the republican party. that didn't happen six years ago. he had an uneasy relationship. they didn't align well. he comes into office. talking about health care. these things, the coke saw a lot of work. they were in the swilt lives.
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they are not putting money behind causes that benefit them. >> it's a millo soficcal choice. >> these guys are fro market purists. you see them working on issues relating to climate change where na is in their economic interests. these guys are across the board, with an ain regulatory agenda. they don't want a solution to else. >> and you think they ed the republican party to be -- they pushed the republican party to be more libertarian. >> i think it's under way. we see it in politicians like rand paul and people of that ilk. the question now is really what are they going to do now that they have amassed a power center. will they moderate on certain
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issues, which they are moderate. and some of the social issues that really combine to help the republicans lose a number of elections in 2012. it's fascinating how you address the political issues. it's a family story, great to have you here. sons of wichita. coming up. where does team u.s. a head from here after a win against ghana. we take you to rio. first, what are the cheapest places to get away to in the u.s. should juvenile killers serve life without parole? >> the didn't even ask for the money they just shot him. >> horrendous crimes committed by kids. >> i think that at sixteen it's a little too early to write him off for life. >> should they be locked away
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for good? >> he had a tough upbringing but he still had to have known right from wrong.
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today's data dive looks for a cheap get away. trip advisor is out with a list of cheap spots in the u.s. some of our cities made the list. it based a choice on a cost of a
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typical night with cocktails, dinner, a bottle of wine, round-trip taxi ride and hotel. costing about $367 in denver, number so, behind minneapolis. dallas and houston on the cheaper map. separated by a dollar. new orleans is fifth. orlando less, unless you have dinner at it's ni, turning it into the most expensive city. las vegas first by a long way. a night there is $35 cheaper than a night on south beach. the prices plummet when you go overseas the the trip index cost hanoi vietnam. not the most popular of cities, running $153.
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a beach resort in egypt second and third. that is is fraction of $519 london costs you. that is the most expensive. the price in the u.s. and san francisco followed by new york and boston. the annual american express vacation survey found 75% of americans will go away. up 16%. we are spending more, about 1250 per person. if all the vacation talk makes you want to take a few days off, you are not alone. coming up, brazil as the u.s. preps for the next world cup hi.
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>> al jazeera america. the world cup in brazil is in full swing. u.s. a defeating ghana on sunday, passing a roadblock that stopped them in the past two world cups. what is the team's chance of surviving the group of death. dave ziren, sports editor for
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the nation, host of the "edge of sports radio", and author. dave, good to have you with us. i see you have a sun tan in your time on copacabana. everyone expected protests throughout the tournament. they seem to have calmed done. you were in the middle of one and ended up getting tear-gassed. >> that's correct. i wouldn't say the protests have calmed down. they are smaller. the protests that existed, like one today and one two days ag. they were angry protests. two days ago was the first soccer match at the cysteine chapel of soccer, a famous soccer stadium. 500 protesters behind a banner
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saying f.i.f.a. go home. we attempted to march on the stadium. i ran ahead to get a good camera shock. a block before the protesters crashed - things are a little wild - they fired tear gas towards the protesters, but the geometry was off. they landed 50 yard in front of them. police were fine. horses were wearing gas maifications. there was 200 tourists at an outdoor cafe, all the gas blue on to them. they tashed away. it was an ugly scope, a block away from the legendary stadium. >> you thing that the protests died down in number.
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i know that you wrote because you think there's fear of what police are doing. >> it seemed iron yik, because the president left the center. why is that happening? >> it's ironic, this past is 40 years ago, when imprisoned by brazil's military police and tortured during that time, a fact that she brings up to speak about her isn'ts tisty to the -- sensitivity to the protesters. it doesn't change the fact that police here are in riot rig ailia. heavy machinery, military police, street cameras, and a continual show of force. there were more police than demonstrators. tear gas is the first resort.
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>> there was no violence until the tear gas and live ammunition fired by police, obvious the heads of protesters. it was frightening for what was a peaceful, albeit spirited rally. team u.s. s, a big step. that team eliminated the u.s., ghana. tougher. >> it is only going to get tougher. the yate is in what i describe as the deathiest groups of death. there are several groups of deaths. there is so much terrific soccer. remember the top two in united states emerge. germany, a favourite to win, portugal led by cristiano ronaldo, and ghana, who the u.s. had not beaten. the fact that the u.s. beat
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ghana - germany will advance. the question is about port knal. this will be interesting. cristiano ronaldo who is the greatest player. detractors will send me a lot of hate freaks for saying he's the greatest player in the world. he's polarizing. cristiano ronaldo has never played the united states in international competition. it will be fascinatingto see how that plays out. she probably has more friend on the u.s. team. let's see how that dine abbingic plays out. >> enjoy your time in brazil. hope to talk to you soon. that's all for now. wednesday - parents with mental
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