flicks. ... president barack obama told reporters u.s. aid could include intelligence help and a growing contingence in american forces. we are prepared to create joint operation centers. ... how to support iraqi security forces going forward. >> u.s. officials are said to be actively working to find an alternative to nicolas madura. president obama cautioned that the iraqi government needs to avoid following a sectarian agenda area that helped to divide the country. only leaders governing with an inclusive agenda will be able to

bring the country together. >> i'm joined by correspondent omar. good to see i. president obama said on thursday that the u.s. was prepared to create two centres, send in military advisors, increase reconnaissance and intelligence to prepare for action against i.s.i.l. this is short of the nouri al-maliki's government's request for air strikes. how will it be received? >> there has not been an official reaction to president obama's speech yet. but i think most probably the iraqi government would welcome the help in the form of advisors or sharing intelligence. i think they will disagree, they will refer the president to order the air strikes that iraq has requested. because they thought such strike would slow down the advance of

the rebels in different parts of the country. probably they will be littered with disappointment. what about the refinery in beigy, a big battle. reports are that some iraqi troops are holding on to a small part of the refinery. it's a crucial refinery. there's reports that the i.s.i.l. insurgents raised the black flag over the facility. >> now the situation is under the control of the iraqi government. iraqi forces managed to repel the attackers in the last 48 hours. now that they are in charge of that refinery, our sources there say that the rebels withdrew from the installation. now the refinery is back to the government's hand. however, it remains short. that has created a shortage of fuel and gasoline and cooking oil. there is a fear that the wider town of beigy is under the

control of i.s.i.l., and other rebels, so they could try to retake the refinery from the deposit forces. >> the obama administration is reportedly actively pursuing alternatives to nouri al-maliki, who can be accused of feeding into the sectarianism because of all of this. the president warned maliki that he had to reach out to sunnis and kurds. he did nothing substantial and said that iraq needs leaders who can bring the country together. are nouri al-maliki's days numbered? >> that's anyone's guess. it's hard to predict. this is politics. i think what will happen is the iraqi leaders will try to pan out some details. they did meet in the last 48 yours, and there was nothing concrete. remember when prime minister nouri al-maliki took his second

term, it was seen as a marriage of interest between the u.s. and iran that gave nouri al-maliki his second term. they overturned - now the third term which nouri al-maliki wants will be a little bit more difficult. given the fact that the americans, president barack obama has said that we will not choose iraqi leaders, they'll show they are willing to share power. this is the criticism aimed at nouri al-maliki. since then u.s. forces withdrew from the country in 2011. there were worrying signs that prime minister nouri al-maliki was marginalizing sunnis, and attacking the political opponents whether they were sunnis, kurds or in the wider shiite coalition. he was making the signs early

on. >> we'll have to hope someone creates a national unity government, because there's no history of it. saddam hussein marginalised the shiites, and nouri al-maliki is marginalizing the sunnis. good to have you with us. thank you. for a closer look at the american role. i'm joined by douglas ol vi vant, he served two tours in iraq as an army lieutenant colonel and one as head of a planning team that coordinated a 200 surge. he's a senior fellow and a managing partner. the president is boosting intelligence sharing and could send hundreds of trainers into iraq. i know you said this was a good move. is there a risk that by sending more people in, we could end up with mission creep in iraq.

>> i don't think mission creep is a danger. he's taking prudent steps. since the crisis started, they've done well. the president is trying to set his chest board without taking pieces. he's developing a situation, putting intelligence platforms in the air, drones and other aircrafts, changes of satellite so we know what is going on on the ground. advisors are going forward. not out on the field, but a room not unlike this one. a room surrounded by hundreds of soldiers, close enough that they have a good feel for what is going on. >> protected enough that they will not get in a fight and require more people to come in there. on the other hand-republican centers mccain and grant put out

a statement saying: they say the president is not doing enough. if we don't do enough to help iraq, the crisis could spiral out of control. if i.s.i.l. was continuing to move closer to baghdad, i could see that. the lines seem to have stabilized except for the fighting. it seems that we have the luxury of a couple of days to let the situation develop and move forward. i think the president is being prudent. >> the title of a piece you wrote for foreign policy is hold your horses, iraq is not about to fall yet. the group has taken a lot of territory quickly. >> they certainly had a good week. things seem to have stabilized. it's unclear what happened in mosul, and why the iraqi army

collapsed quickly in the north. not only mosul, but tick rit and other locations. we will see more reliable troops from the south, there'll be more of them, they'll be denser, more density of them. close to baghdad, a city they care about and are not going to run away from or abandon. >> can they take the territory back. it is sunni territory and the groups are sunnis, the population may not agree with what they are doing or their agenda, will it be feasible for iraqi troops to take back the territory. >> that is the question. this is a combination of military capability. can they perform and how much capability does i.s.i.l. have. it's all about the politics. >> you wrote despite the victories. that i.s.i.l.'s offense idoes not a sectarian war make.

why not. the fighters slaughtered the shia captives and they threatened to destroy the shrines. certainly everyone in i.s.i.l. is sunni. there are lots of moderates. the vast majority of iraq sunnis want to live their lives and raise children and tending the farms. so on and so forth. there is a small minority in the sunni community pursuing the agenda. there are a lot of people that want to live their lives, they are the people we need to find a political solution with. on the political side of things, you wrote that prime minister nouri al-maliki has been no nelson mandela, when it comes to reaching out to the sunnis, he hashand had a de clercq figure. do you think that there's some way of coming up with some sort of government that can hold the country together? >> i'm hopeful that the event of

the past week might have cleared minds or focused the mind on the problem at hand. it's easy to blame maliki, there's blame doing around. maliki has made a lot of mistakes. the sunni has not been verified. i'm hopeful that the groups of the last week could bring the events together. it could go the other way. >> i hope the optimistic side of you is the one that is correct. >> me too. >> good to see you. >> thank you. have a good night. >> returning to the crisis in iraq to the crisis in ukraine. a stay after the new president talked to vladimir putin, the situation has gotten worse instead of better. heavy fighting erupted again in eastern ukraine north of the city. n.a.t.o. says the russians are sending troops along with fighter jets and tanks to the ukranian border. n.a.t.o. secretary general

condemned the move. >> we are seeing a military build-up, russian military build up along the ukranian border. it is a matter of grave concern. we call on russia to stop destabilizing the situation in eastern ukraine. >> i'm pleased to be joined by washington d.c. by ambassador william courtney, former ambassador to kazakhstan. good to see you. you heard n.a.t.o.'s secretary-general saying russia's military build up is a matter of concern. you said it gives moscow an option to intervene, does the military move put the threat of a russian invasion back on the table? >> it does do that. that's correct. what we may see in moscow is politics. what putin wants -- launched in

ukraine, with intelligence officers and provocateurs has taken a life of itsen. now the weeks in eastern ukraine are complaining that russia is not giving them support. one of the leaders complained that malta forces surrounded them and could write it out. i think what we are seeing is the kremlin unleashed the dogs of war, but now strong nationalists are saying, "no, the kremlin should renut the threat of military -- renew the threat of action inside the ukraine in a more military way." >> is this about vladimir putin taking advantage of the u.s. do you think it's more that internal pressure or the pressure from the pro-russian separatist. >> i think the latter. it's possible the kremlin took into account and is distracted

by iraq. there are a couple of interesting parallels. in iraq and ukraine. there's a circumstance in which a corrupt ruler who knomped was in power too long, and secondly the military both in iraq and ukraine suffered as a result of that. both performed poorly. what is different in ukraine is that they had a free and fair election, lected a new president. petro porashenko, who proposed reconciliation, and pursuing anti-terror of the operations. and secondly the west is coming behind and supporting that government. that's making a major difference. >> talking about the connection between the west and ukraine. petro porashenko said he would sign an agreement, that his predecessor rejected in favour of a treaty with moscow. that led to the protests that

pushed viktor yanukovych out of power. is the military threat putin's way of showing pleasure ot doing this. >> it might be. petro porashenko made clear that he's planning to do this. what whenninged is more people in ukraine now are united about the european course, about going to the west. petro porashenko is responding to popular opinion to sign the agreement which will include a free trade agreement. it will be a big boom. >> on wednesday, petro porashenko offered a unilateral ceasefire to the separatists after government forces took control. he replaced his foreign minister who used an obscenity to describe vladimir putin. he offered amnesty to the separatist. it seemed like good news. it didn't seem to have a result.

things seemed to have gotten worse. all the parties had to participate. the russian military forces, military intelligence in eastern ukraine, they haven't been involved in negotiations. it's not a surprise that they rejected it. what they are calling on is the kremlin to save their bacon, if you will. to come in and use conventional force. it's something that the kremlin will have to think long and hard about. it triggers sectoral sanctions. >> there are reports of a major battle wamed. a senior u.n. rights official. the tensions. acts of treatment. if not of terror, but the words. some observers have been kidnapped by separatists by the organization. they have been, you know, held

captive for weeks now. russia is a member of the o.s.c.e. is it that they unleaked a dog of war, can't control the dogs. >> that's a key part of it. journalists have been kidnapped. others - the separatists in the eastern ukraine are going off on their own in some respects, hoping that the ultra nationalists will come in and put pressure on the kremlin. i think vladimir putin, the president, wouldn't mind doing that, but for the western reaction. >> a lot of worrisome developments. good to have you in the show. >> thank you. >> now for more stories from around the world. we begin in washington d.c., where republicans elected a majority leader. californian congressman mccarthy

will take the job. he was to succeed eric cantor, no one expected it would happen this quickly. eric cantor lost a primary, the first times it happened to a sitting majority leader. next to spain where king felipe vi was crowned after his father signed his ab dickation into law wednesday night. thousands cheered the king, who hopes to regain popularity for the family. one of his sisters is under investigation for fraud and funny laundering. it has damaged the reputation of the crown. finally to wisconsin, where harley davidson showed the electric motorcycle. it's called the livewire. it's been made for assessment drives but -- test drives, but

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since violence in myanmar hundreds of muslims have been killed and 50,000 others have been it's placed. forced to live in modern day camps surrounded by armed guards. they have little to no action to schools and medical care. they face restrictions on marriage and children. the "new york times" columnist travelled to a camp in north-western myanmar where he found a woman in need of a doctor. >> we have a woman in labour with a breach deliver. >> a foot emerged. >> people are locked up here

because of ethnicity. they live behind senses and police checkpoints. doctors are not allowed in, even to save their lives. >> is she going to sky. >> joining us is "new york times" columnist nicholas christoph who spent a week in myanmar. known as birma, he was documenting the plight of the rohingya people. a small minority, living in what is considered a modern day concentration camp. good to have you with us. it's shocking to look at what you show in your pieces about it, and in the video on what is going on there. starting with this woman with a breached baby, and you can't find help for her. there's no doctors. you try to help her, you take her to a makeshift clinic and there's a nurse that can't do anything. >> there has been sporadic

violence, issues of malnutrition and other abuses. the urgent issue is that essentially there has been no medical care for a population of more than a million people. that was in a camp of 150,000 people. women are having babies, children are sick. >> a baby with 107 fever and nothing to do to help the child. the child survived, but there were doctors there, doctors without borders were there and kicked out. >> they were kicked out. the fact that this could be going on in the 21st century is extraordinary and heart-breaking. >> a u.n. official who visited the camps said it was the worst human suffering she has seen. why is it happening. there has been violence in the past. is anyone blameless? >> in a sense, this is an echo of apartheid.

so you have a country of myanmar, where population is overwhelmingly buddhist, and the military government has for decades targeted the rohingya population who are different, racially some are darker skin, and who are muslim. they made them scapegoats. as the country has transitioned towards democracy, that amplified the problem. if you are running for election it is popular to scaip got an unpopular minority. >> we talk to children on the streets. they run into a childhood. are they trying to ethnically cleanse these people. >> this is a cleansing that is in motion, and the aim is to make conditions in tollerable and it's working. you have thousands of the rohingya who fled by boat to other countries and more will

follow. many end up dying on route. these are boat people in 2014. you brought up the buddhists, the majority, and there's - one of the things you point out is the buddhist monks are responsible for a lot of what is going on, especially a leader named ruwathu. let's listen to what he has to say. >> here is a monk talking about people as if they were fish. >> it's as city councileding -- astounding. we think buddhist as being peaceful. but you have had buddhist monks

walking down the streets calling on humanitarian workers to be kicked out of the country. it's time when religious leaders need to speak up and civic leaders need to speak up and unfortunately... >> international leaders need to point out. >> international leaders. >> you point out that two nobel prize leaders have been silent, one inside myanmar, aung san suy kyi. but she nay want to be -- may want to be president of birma. she can't be seen to support the minority. >> she's a heroic figure. she has so much courage. this is not something that she caused. it's not the military government. at a time when we speak up. i would hope that aung san suy kyi will rediscover the courage.

>> the other prize winner is president obama. he talked at west point about birma being a foreign policy successor. why is he not speaking out. there are sanctions in place still. >> and the u.s. government has, to some degree, tried to work within the system. they tried to - i think they regard birma as overwhelmingly a success. there's a lot to it. the situation deteriorated so badly, with the explosion of doctors without borders, it's no longer a tenable response. american officials, u.n. officials avoid using the word rohingya to avoid antagon icing. >> the government talks as if they don't exist. >> there's no such ethnic group. a government official asked me not to use the word rohingya.

>> people should be interested in this, look up your piece, they are powerful and the video, 10 minute long and brings the story home power tli. good to have you with us. >> good to be here. burning to the boko haram militants who kidnap more than 200 girls. in may the families welcomed the arrival of aid and drones hoping to help find the girls believed to be stater -- scattered across hostile territory. boko haram continued a campaign of terror, massacring civilians on a daily basis. this week 21 were killed by a bomb as fans gathered to watch a world cup match the the militants are expanding their reach to kidnap young boys, forcing them to join their sent. members of congress went to get help from the ma'am anies.

>> we call upon the government of nigeria to establish a national victim's fund for all of the victims who suffered at the hands of boko haram, for the girls that are missing, for the girls that escaped, for their family, the father who spoke to us about missing daughter and he could hardly speak for tears were coming to his eyes. >> the congressman led the delegation to nigeria, and calling for attention on the search for kidnapped girls. good of you to join us. there's worldwide interest in the girls. what did you learn about the effort to find us while in nigeria. >> thank you for highlighting the tragedy. i hold up a headline in nigeria, which meanings that they could not be without knowledge and attention to boko haram, that continues to pillage and ab duct and kill and to murder violently

people in north-east nigeria. what we found is that boko haram is not to be taken lightly, and, more importantly, it will take the eyes of the world to make sure that the kidnapped girls are not a sideline story. as you well know, there's a crisis in loik. and we understand the devastation there. i don't believe in historical review, that we have seen where malicious individuals have taken 300 girls. 90 escaped at the night of this vicious attack. 57 escaped from the envoy that was taking them to where they need to go. now the girls, as you have said, have been scattered. there are articles in newspapers that say we may never see some of these girls. i don't want that to be the head line. we met with a father whose daughter is captured, i would

not let him leave the room without knowing that there is hope and we are insisting that the nigerian government continue its negotiations. >> you mentioned this father. and you spoke to all the families, who are in unbearable pain. what is the nigerian government telling? >> i think the understanding of their pain is scattered among religious organizations, n.g.o.s, certain u.s. aid working, but i don't believe there's enough focus at the highest level of government. we need a comforter in charge, if you will, to let the families know they are not suffering alone. these families drove two days, two days, they did not fly, to meet with us in abuja, in aborno state in north-east nigeria. they wanted uts to know their pain. what the families want, i believe they have accepted, and

joined on to the idea of the victims fund not for money's sake, but to keep them going while they are praying for the return of the girls, and those that lost loved ones, such as the woman who visited with us, whose throat was slashed. they want to know that they will not stop the government going after boko haram, ending their siege on nigeria, and find the girls. >> on that note boko haram is killing civilians on a daily basis. many fear they are trying to create a fundamentalist belt across west africa. hundreds were arrested in a convoy in the southern part of nigeria. that is not where the group is supposed to separate. is the nigeria government capable of stopping them or do we have to intervene there too? >> i think what has to happen is the nigerian government is leading one of the most

prosperous nation or the most prosperous nation. in 2025, maybe there'll be 440 million persons. they have 7% growth. they have 60% of their people in poverty and 10 million children not in school. i think this will have to be a collaboration with the united nations. but also with the african union and have got to join with cameroon and say no to boko haram. they may be the nigerian taliban. we didn't know the taliban a decade ago in terms of attack. i'm not suggesting that boko haram will be on our shores, that is not my point. what i suggest is that boko haram is trying to spread its evil violence across the region,

across from north africa into west africa, but into nigeria. and a place of business and thriving opportunity will not survive if boko haram continues to be allowed to kill, pillage and rape, and destroy villages and municipalities with impursuant yip. they have to know that their daft artily behaviour will stop. i make the argument that this is not only a military operation, we have to intervene, as my colleagues said with social services, education, investment in northern nigeria, businesses training, rebuilding the school, the mosque, the hospitals and the christian churches, and have to do it in the place of boko haram. and dare them to destroy this country. >> best of luck with your efforts. good to have you with us and bring attention to this issue that seems to be fading from the

news. time to see what is trending on the web. >> an unconventional weapon the c.i.a. planned to use has been revealed. it's getting a lot of attention on social media the agency developed an osama bin laden action figure to turn children and parents against him. underneath the face that peeled off was a devil with piersing eyes and black marks. the ci sa. hired don ald la vene, the creator of the gi joe toys. he had contact in china that could discretely make the figures. there's a dispute over how many were made, but one source close to the project told "the washington post" hundreds were sent to karachi pakistan in 2006. the c.i.a. is not the only one that uses unusual methods.

the state department has a twitter act called think again, turn away. it uses it to dissuade sympathizers online. let us know what stories you'd like to see. back to you. >> using time and money on the doll. >> questionable at best. >> thank you. >> straight ahead. why was the fbi investigating a journalist for covering the patrice bergeron case. the widow of michael hastings joins us next. and half a century since the passing of the civil rights act. later, a battle roy article over books, why jk rowling are caught up in the fighting.

why was a rolling stone journalist under investigation by the fbi for his detailed

reporting on bowe bergdahl two years ago? that reporting eerily predicted virtually everything that happened since bowe bergdahl was freed in a prisoner swap three weeks ago. a freedom of information act found the fbi was tracking his reporting and emails. hastings was 33 when killed in a car accident. he was mourned as a fearless journalist, who in the words of frank rich, former u.s. oped, "doesn't care who he pisses off." a febzal -- fictional book he wrote "a last magazine" was published this week. his widow, a speech writer for condoleezza rice, i know it's been a year, my condolences.

let's start talking about bowe bergdahl. as i said, it's eerie to read the rolling stone article that michael wrote. down the line, he talked about how bowe bergdahl walked away and the political - about the swap that would take place and how it was going to be a political problem. already he was reporting on how senator mccain was opposing it and the secretary of state was at best lukewarm about the whole situation. how - i am sure he - i wonder what he would think of what happened after he knew what was going to happen. >> he cared about the story. he considered it the most important story of the career. the only prisoner of war, i think that today he would be so proud of how - how well the

reporting stood the test of side. he is a strong journalist. he placed a high premium on getting and right and getting to the truth. i think that's why the bowe bergdahl story is used as a primary source for all the reporting. >> you wonder what - what would happen if the story got more attention when it happened. you say that it didn't get traction until it was politicized. didn't you say it would be politicized once it came out and it happened because we are talking about taliban leaders being exchanged. >> michael predicted in the article that it would become hugely politicized and it did. unfortunately, it was inevitable. it was disgusting because this is a saltier and we here rhetoric about support the troops. the guys, the media, has been putting him at trial.

in politicians before we know his side of the story. we want to find out bowe's side of the story and not try him before hearing the facts. >> as i said, there's clearly an investigation going on, discovered with the request. a lot is redacted. it's not clear what is going on. do you think it was because he wrote about how the pentagon was trying to clamp down on information about bowe bergdahl, including having troops that fought with bowe bergdahl, signing the non-exclosure agreements that they couldn't talk about. >> and 3500 troops are having to sign a nondisclosure. that's really outrageous in my opinion to civil free peach on behalfful people out there fighting the wars. i think that with the story, he found out more than the u.s. government knew about what

bowe's motivations were and why he walked off the base. >> i do. >> and emails that no one reported on. >> the fbi was looking at the emails and contact with the bowe bergdahl family. and a lot of that reporting is the basis for what we now today. >> it's really - i'm happy that the story is getting the attention it deserves. it deserves attention, a re-reading. i want to talk about the book. it's a thinly veiled fictional book about working in the media in the lead up to the iraq war. it's getting so much attention. what did you think when you found this book and read it for the first time. i read it without stopping. a colleague at news week sent me the novel and reminded me about it. i had never read it. it was a blessing. michael's voice pops off the page.

it's familiar themes, his humour. a lot of people who didn't know michael don't realise how funny and hilarious he was. >> it raising concerns about what was happening to and in the media. >> definitely, he tells a story in an entertaining way how news can be mann ip ute lated by -- mann ipualated by journalists. in 2003, as soon as the iraq war was not going, a lot disavowed their positions and completely erase that from time, in light of the people pivotal in gaining support for the war. >> what would you like his legacy to be? >> always telling the truth, and i would like people to remember how he stood up to power and pursued truth no matter what. >> pleasure to have you with us.

good luck with the book. nice to have you with us. coming up the late night talk show game is changing. this time the only female host is heading to netflix. will anyone watch. first, the transformation of america by the numbers, that's coming up in the data dive next.

today's data dive looks at a changing america. it's 50 years since the civil rights act passed the senate banning discrimination on the matter of race, colour, sex and religious origin.

the president signed the bill into law. we look at how america changed. we are more diverse. 1970s sensor showed 87% of americans were white. dropping 2 percentage points by 2010. whites will not be a majority by 2050, representing an authority. a number of us will be his panic. blacks will remain black. we are getting older by 2050. a quarter of us will be 50. it's raising concerns about the cost of alzhiemer's, the sixth leading cause of death in the u.s. we are less religious than ever. 5% have no religious preference. that number has nearly quadrupled. despite the concerns over american education, we are getting more of it. orange and yellow showed a number of us spending time in

college has tripled. high school drop outs has crashed. women have about the same number of bachelors as men in the 45 to 64 age group but beat the younger americans. and americans have gone west and a little south. in 1790 when the u.s. had 13 states, the center of population was near what is washington d.c. that center moved to missouri. coming up, big name authors like jk rowling and stein colbert is caught up in a battle of books - next. o you.

al jazeera america, take a new look at news. amma zone is embroiled in a battle over the price of e-books. "the silk worm", jk rowling is in the middle of the battle. amazon is delaying delivery of harsh copies to pressure h ajs shett into not raising pricing. let's bring in al jazeera culture critic and arts editor bill wyman from phoenix, arizona. this battle is all over the pricing of e-books. hash et wants to raise the

prices. amazon is playing hard ball to make the publisher agree to a contract keeping the prices lower. it's portrayed by menace a big, bag amma son. is that the whole story. it is and it isn't. it's one of these stories that depends how closely you look at it. you look through a lens, you see amazon and a book publisher and think that amazon is the bully. it's a big organization. for us it's working to lower prices. that is a good thing. amazon is a partial, not a mon op ollie, but something where when you control the pipeline, you bring down the prices. you pull back the lense, and you don't know who ha happen in the future, what happens when amazon controls the market and you jack up the rices and this theory you

have no place to go. jk ruling "the silk worm", written under a pseudonym is published. amazon is saying he will not shift the book. you can get the e-book, but many of amazon's competitors, from the itunes's book store and other smaller companies are offering big discounts on the book trying to capitalize off of what is going on with amazon. they'll lose sales of the book now. what is it hoping to win. >> now you pull back a little more and you see the market working the way in theory that it should. if the one seller is not giving you what we the consumer wants, we have choices and go to somewhere else. you wonder why amazon will do that. what they are doing is they are scaring hash et and other publishers because now hash et is fighting back and some of

their authors are, others are saying okay, this is what's when amazon plays hard ball, let's not get into the fight. >> wouldn't amazon make money if the prices for e-books is higher. >> this is when you take the big, big picture and you look at what the world will look like. there's not going to be book publishers, but one place where you have kindles and e-book through amazon, and why should an author go through the outmoded publisher when they can go to amazon. then they control the whole sheb anning and make some money marginally on every purchase that people make. they are looking at the long term. two other topics, television, chelsea handler made a deal with netflix to produce a talk show, some for comedy documentaries. this is far beyond what is happening. this is a new-type of show with

netflix. it's a late night talk show that will not be on late at night. you can basically get it on demand at some point. how much of an impact will it have on the late night landscape. >> it's crazy. you blink and the tv late night landscape will be changed in a year from where it was two years ago. everything will be different. this is an interesting story. it shows netflix expanding its"ons, trying something -- horizons, trying something new. netflix is a paradigm changing company and they are trying and visualising a future three or four years from now. >> how will that work. basically what they do usually is they have the shows, like "house of cards", they release it, binge watch it, but this will be a talk show. how will that work? don't they have a short shelf life because, you know, they are following

whoever the recent okay tore is who is -- actor is who is selling a movie. >> it could we live, and it's basically functioning as a dvr, or it's there any time, and (c), they are putting it on the wall to see how it looks. chelsea handler is not a big name like david letterman or howard stern. she doesn't have many followers. she's not an hbo person. she's on the e network, a little grungy. we'll see if netflix brings her occupy or an experiment that could go nowhere. >> music. jack white released a new album on june 10th. it made number one on billboard 200. of all albums. the big news is the comeback of vinyl. over 40,000 records sold in the first book, the most sold, vine ill records, since 1991.

>> exactly. i think people is should look at this in a different way. these are basically souvenirs, tour gear, the tort you play at the conference. with it you get a digital copy and shell out a few more bucks and the little thing on the wall. kids are not sitting around spinning. >> where do you buy a record player any more. >> you can buy them. urban outfitters sell self-contained units. you can, it's been treated as merchandise. all you have to do is sell a few hundred thousand of those and you are talking about real money. they are talking about as much money, twice as much from the digital sales. >> amazing. the more things change, the more they stay the same.

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