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excommunicated for demanding equal rights. okay go mixing pop music with performance art. the band is here to talk about their mesmerising video. >> we gee bin with a return to -- begin with a return to iraq. 100 u.s. military advisors and special operations forces are there. more american forces are on the way. president obama made is clear that there'll be no u.s. combat troops as the situation spire always out of control. earlier the pentagon briefed congress on america's roll in the fight between iraq's government and rebel fighters. mike viqueira is at the white house. >> on a day when secretary of state john kerry said time and time again that there must be a political solution, a coming together in baghdad before u.s. military scrigs can have an

effect or do good in the long term. the united states announcing that the first wave of the 300 - up to 300 advisors have arrived in country in iraq to try to help the ricky military assess their cohesiveness and help them obtain targets against i.s.i.l. forces. rear-admiral john kirby is the spokesman. >> the team will begin their assessments and provide findings within the next two to three weeks. >> we fly routine regular missions to the tune of 35 fights per day to gain better insight. >> administration officials were on capitol hill briefing the full senate. many emerged afterwards clearly concerned with what they were seeing, not only about the situation inside iraq, but a spillover into jordan.

here are two republican sirens, marco rubio and lindsay graham. >> i argument we need to target the supply lines that feed i.s.i.s. out of syria, and the command and control structure, and work closely with the allies in the region, particularly jordan, to protect them from a growing risk. >> i want everyone to understand what happens in iraq affects us, and that briefing made it crystal clear. no member of the senate could have left the briefing believing that the homeland is not in danger if the people are successful. i don't think you'll hear much push back if the president has to actment. >> many senators who are critical of the crisis in iraq, fore square behind him. if it comes to military action, if the president decides to go that way. >> iraq's conflict is spilling into neighbouring countries. jordan sent tanks and fighter jets to its border. and within iraq the humanitarian

crisis exists, and in two weeks more than a million have been displaced. >> the conflict in iraq has become a crisis in neighbouring countries. jordan reinforced security in its border of iraq after advances. customs officials are at their post. for dresseivers, the road is li with danger. >> no army, no police, checkpoints along the highway were destroyed. vehicles destroyed. >> for iraqis the escape routes are closing. more than a million fled their holes since mosul fell two weeks ago. without a way out of the country many ended in makeshift camps like this one. temperatures are already over 90 degrees. aid agencies are trying to prevent the return of polio and an outbreak of measles.

>> if the polio spreads, it will cover the whole of kurdistan. there's a programme to tackle this. >> few are going home. iraq is struggling to take back territory captured by the i.s.i.l., vowing to overthrow the deposit and declare a hard-line islamic state. >> the iraqi army relies on mortars and machine guns, the american military had a hard enough time fighting al qaeda in iraq. it is balancing scoffist kated -- sophisticated concerns. >> this is the area we took back. we'll liberate it for the sake of iraq. >> reporter: fallujah fell in december, with fighting on so many fronts, iraq is unlikely to take the city back now.

>> tonight - there is new information on why asiana flight 214 crashed in san francisco last year. the national transportation safety board said it was largely caused by human error. jonathan betz is here with more. >> we have a clear idea of what went wrong. mistakes were made by the crew, some inexperienced and largely did not fully understand the plane. >> investigators say it was a series of small mistakes that doomed asiana flight 214. >> we had a lot of holes lined up. a lot of issues lined up the wrong way, as it turned out. >> issues the national transportation safety board announced that involved the pilots. >> we had a pilot who was new in the airplane, an structure who was new. fatigue, issues regarding understanding the automation. >> all leading the plane to crash in san francisco, killing three passengers.

>> animation released by the ntsb showed a series of 20-30 mistakes. including with a captain turning off the autopilots. this led them to disconnect the auto throttle. without it, the aircraft slowed too much. the pilots, one of them training, didn't notice. so as the boeing approached the runway, the crew did not release it was flying too low and slow until it was too late. jeghtors say the throatle is not easy to turn off and should investigators say the throttle is not easy to turn off and should have better warnings. asi asiano said: investigators recommend a series of changes to keep another series of small mistakes

from leading to a big one. >> the accident raised questions about the skills of asiana pilots, and south korea's oversight of its carriers. the airline promised changes 2010 it comes to training to pilots are better prepared and not so reliant on the automation. >> jonathan betz, thank you. also a landmark decision involving no-fly lists. a federal judge ruling it's unconstitutional. 13 muslim americans filed suit to change their no-fly status. four are military vets. joining us to talk about this is attorney and board member of the council on american and islamic relations. welcome. >> thank you for having me. >> what is this decision really mean? >> well, it means many things to many people. certainly to all americans. so the courts ruling specifically about the importance of the right to

travel, not in and of itself, but to travel by air as being a fundamental right that implicates the due process rights of all americans is very critical. this, men opened the door for the judge to say or make a very strong powerful condemnation of the practices and procedures available to victims of the arbitrary no fly watch list. a condemnation of the processes which found them holily ineffective by the court. this will go a long way, i think, in deterring officers or those involved in placing people on those lists from making arbitrary decisions or decisions not reviewable. >> it goes far, but does it go far enough? >> not far much. it's a slow but steady progress. >> why does it not go far enough? >> the government relied on a

lot of judicial bullying and using the pretext unquestioned of national security. the judicial def rens to the term, not always meaningful of security is waning. that's a powerful move. >> how does a muslim american military vet get off the no-fly list. >> the process is so mirky and birdon some. it's placed on the victims. people are put on the no-fly list. there's no system. the court found that it was wholly ineffective. one must apply for the redress and is given no information. forced to be in the courts. it took a woman eight years to be removed from the no-fly list when she was put there. one can only imagine what the other cases are like. >> how does the country improve

the system? >> the most important step is to allow for transparency. the department of justice needs to take ownership of placing people on the list. if we don't provide individual notice, then general notice. >> what happens is what one ju avoid. >> you can understand why people may be skeptical, given the fact this it took so many years to get to this point, and the court made a ruling saying that it is positive in your view, but it doesn't resolve the matter, and it doesn't really provide necessarily a solution for the people who are on the list, does it? >> no, not at all. we think it's a small and important first step. it's nowhere near what is needed to undo a lot of injustices. people on a no-fly list have

been put in a purgatory. it's an effect of detention. people on the watch list. we are hopeful that this will be the beginning of a new trend at least in the courts. we'd like to see more from the department of justice. we'd like transparency about the procedures, and notice when one is put on to the lists. >> it's an interesting discussion. we'll have you back to talk about it a little more. >> hours ago the polls closed in six states on one of the most consequential election dates of 204. results are coming in in hotly contested races. in mississippi 76-year-old that'd cochrane apparently pulled off a narrow victory over his tea party challenger chris mc-daniel. in new york the attention is on

charlie wrangle who said it's his last campaign, he has a 4 point lead. in maryland, governor brown beat the attorney-general. the oklahoma james langford captured more than 50%, winning the party nomination over tw shannon. former house speaker. storms continue to pound the midwest. in miles per hour, rain led to flooding, washing out homes, destroying crops, closing homes and a ta rolled through a -- tornado rolled through a town in indiana. >> we'll start with what is happening across the valley. we've seen a frontal boundary. this is the front that came close to causing the tornado in indiana. look at the video that we have of the storm system. see the tornado taking on video as it moves through the suburbs

of yined. the amount of -- indiana. the amount of damage - we saw a lot of structural damage, trees, powerlines. we did not have casualties associated. that would good news. coming back to the weather wall. let's put this into motion. this is the tornado that we saw here. there were a few tornado over here, one towards the north as well. when we talk about the rain and the flooding that's been going on, and the northern plains, in this area we have been fairly lucky, and for parts of minnesota as well as into twin cities. we are going to see mississippi river crest over the next couple of days because of all the water coming in, so what we don't need is a lot more rain in the area. what is happening is the crest

of water will make its way down the mississippi river, and will take until july before it gets all the way down here. what is going to be helping is the dams and locks to halt some of the cresting that we expect there. we expect to see rain showers down in texas, and that will cause problems in terms of hail as well as wind damage. back to you. thank you. >> imagine paying almost next to nothing for a parcel of land in new orleans, part of a programme to renovate the lower ninth ward, a neighbourhood struggling after a decade of hurricane katrina. >> almost nine years an hurricane katrina and the lower ninth ward. the area hardest hit by the storm - progress has been slow. the population is less than half of what it was. they can run down streets. this woman has lived her her

whole life. >> it is frustrating. we continue to fight the city. those structures need to be demolished. they are in imminent danger of collapse. >> there has been an effort like brad pitt's make it right charity building homes, the city failed to put money in the lower ninth. a new plan is aimed at repopulating the community, involving having the city sell more than 600 vacant lots in the lower ninth for $100. >> nine years after hurricane katrina, the conventional ways of doing business are not working. >> wesley bishop is behind the plan approved by the state legislature and modelled after efforts in new york city and detroit. businesses will not move back because not use families are there. selling the lots for $100 gives people an incentive to move back and rebuild. >> in the process it puts the

individuals in a better position. they can go to a bank and say "i may not have the best credit or income, but i have a piece of property that may be worth 10, 15, 20,000 of my own. >> under the plan contractors and developers will not be eligible, nor people with tax loans or code violation. buyers will be limited to one property. at recent meetings there has been huge interest. >> we've been getting emails from folks out of town, that wanted to come back, and couldn't. >> since the legislation involves changing the state's constitution to sell below market rate. voters have the time say in november. it's a decision that could be crucial to bringing back a long-battered community. >> 50 years ago the civil rights act was signed into law. putting an end to generation of

legalized discrimination. in washington lawmakers awarded martin luther kingor and his wife the congressional gold medal. and a home for the largest ar of videos at the library of congress. we have that story. >> the history makers, an ar gave of 5,000 afghan americans who made a difference. >> capturing the legacy of african minister is the idea trig the history makers project. >> it was hard times. i went to school hungry and came home hungry. >> it features interviews with the late mousse iron and actor opening up about his childhood. >> we moved a lot of places. >> july arna founded the project at the kitchen table.

>> for the afghan american community, it's important that they and the largest community know the real story, and we are not limited to martin luther examine, malcolm x, et cetera. >> reporter: since then the collection exploded with 9,000 hours of video interviews. the collection includes documents and photos like these. almost a third of the subjects, like author and actress maya angelou passed away since being interviewed. >> my grandmother's voice, that's the best. i'd write to her "mama, please sipping." she would say "you know mama can't sing.". president obama spoke when he was a young senator. >> my mother really was somebody who, i think, emphasised or

identified greatly with the civil right movement. it was almost our civil religion. the library of congress hopes the stories of struggles and successors will educate and receipt a more complete record. >> if i left her alone, and didn't bother her, she'd sipping "i shall not be moved. i shall not - i shall not be moved, just like a tree planted by the water, oh i shall not be moved." i loved it. coming up, a question of faith. kate kelly joins me to talk about being ex-communicated from the mormon talk. plus, once bitten. the shocking moment on the field at the

kidnapping. 91 villagers, girls and boys, taken in borno state over a 3-day period. andrew simmonds has the latest. >> no confirmation or denial on the kidnappings. more information from a senior local government official speaking via telephone to afp newsagency saying yes, there were more than 90 people taken hostage. amongst them were 60 women, and amongst those were a group of children, between 3 and 12. these incidents were supposed to have taken place over a 3-day period. that was from thursday, friday and saturday. also they were around about 30km from chib uk. this is the school where there

were more than 200 abductions more that two months ago. we are in day 71 of the crisis, and 219 school girls are still missing. boko haram are the pictures in this latest report of kidnapping. the reasoning behind it, if it's true, it unclear. some speculate it could be to put the heat on the authorities, to get the whole story back into the public right in an attempt to get the freedom of some of their prisoners in possible negotiations. that was andrew simmonds. ukraine's president said he may revoke the one-week ceasefire, after the russian separatists shot down a military helicopter killing nine service members. russian president vladimir putin wants an extension on the trurks and arrived his parliament to revoke a law authorising the use of military force in ukraine. in brazil competition for the

world cup is heating up leaving fans and players feeling the pressure. in the match between uruguay and italy, luis suarez sunk his teeth into an italian opponent to keep him away from the ball. this was not the first time luis suarez used hits teeth. he's been suspended twice in the past. lucia newman is in brazil where security forces are breaking for most notorious fans to descend on the tournament. >> they are called the fierce fans. they make their infamous mark wherever there's a football game. they are more than acknowledge tine hooligans. -- argentine hooligans. >> translation: they are hired thugs used for doing dirty work for trade unions and politicians. in exchange they are allowed to carry out illegitimate dealings

involvings football. >> they are synonymous with violence, including during world cup games. >> translation: they can cause the suspension of a game by throwing noise bombs, hurting someone in the stands or robbing or killing people outside the stayed yuls. it's their way of loif. nothing out of the ordinary. it's more about business than sport. thousands of tickets gip by f.i.f.a. to -- given by f.i.f.a. to argentina's football federation has been distributed to the group, who can sell them for $1,200, more than five times the value. illegal, of course. argentina and brazil's federal police are cooperate k, compiling a list of the trouble makers. argentina cannot stop them leaving the country. but brazil can stop them

entering the border. in a rare move a small group agreed to speak on camera to denounce the black list as discriminatory. >> i'm tired of being in prison, seen as a monster. now we want argentine football to be well regarded. we are telling members to be on best behaviour. >> a change of heart in which few believe, which is why authorities are taking no chances. coming up next - standing in silence. the world protest against the gaoling of our three al jazeera journalists in egypt. plus, children crossing the border. tens of thousands this year

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behind bars. [ singing ] and ready, set, okay, go. the rock band is back with another viral music video. a women's rite's activist kate kelly, excommunicated arguing that women in the mormon church should have a bigger role. the church ruled on monday that she was guilty with apostasy. members are standing behind her. facebook has support and letters, sent to the church on her behalf. kate kelly joins us from salt lake city. have you been surprised by the

response to all of in? >> i've been overwhelmed by the support that i have received, not only from fellow mormons, but people around the world who are inspired, what we are doing inside our faith tradition. >> given a chance to do it over, you'd do it again. >> i would do it again, but only because what i have done is tell the truth, and what i have done is speak with integrity, and i think that moving forward that is the only thing i can do. >> can you tell us why you did what you did and what you hope to accomplish? >> i did what i did because i think religion - that change needs to come from within faith traditions and gender inequality that we see in society is in part because religions need to open up and be open and inclusive. including the mormon church.

so specifically what do you want to see. >> all positions of leadership are available for me, because only men are ordained to the priesthood. i want mormon women to have equal access to opportunities and be ordained to the priesthood. it's important to keep in mind that all mormon me are ordained. if women are ortained, it couldn't be a handful of people, it would be seven million women and girls. >> speaking out on the web got you excommunicated. what is next for you? >> it's only been 24 hours. and so i am trying to take it one day at a time. i intend to appeal the decision within the church structure, and i intend to keep speaking out on gender inequality, and i intend

to no longer remain silent. >> you are smiling tonight. but i suspect, and based on what i have read and seen, this has been incredibly emotional for you. can you describe that? >> it's hard to understand how devastating something like this can be. it feels to me like my citizenship has been revoked, like i have been evicted from my spiritual home, and it is a very difficult time, but i have been really buoyed up by the people that support me and stand with me. and i know that what i'm doing is right. i know that god sees men and women as equals. >> i know - i believe you spent a lot of time crying saying you felt shunned by your community,

right. i felt shunned by the leadership of the church intentionally, and i feel like what they were trying to do is put a gag not only on me, but the entire mormon feminist community and they are intending to silence us. and that is what has caused me heart ache and tears, but what buoys me up and what has kept me going is the support of people like me who just want to tell the truth, and just want to speak up for other women. >> have you been physically threatened? >> we have received a lot of push back from people. the internet - you never know what people will say on the internet. we have received some threats, but none of them are credible,

and i don't fear for my safety. what i fear is for the soul of the church. >> kate kelly, we appreciate you taking the time to speak to us. we hope to talk to you again as this story unfolds. thank you very much. >> thank you for having me. tonight we begin a special series "on the border", a look at the rush of undocumented migrants trying to enter the country. young people have been crossing from central america in record numbers. today the secretary of homeland security told congress, it's not just a border security issue, but a humanitarian crisis. >> homeland security says when thousands of children turn up alone on the border it's a humanitarian crisis and a border security one. we are talking about large numbers of children, without their parents who arrived at the border hungry, thirsty, exhausted, scared and

vulnerable. >> children, some as young as five, many preteen, many from honduras, guatemala, have tried to enter the u.s. in large numbers. 50,000 kids picked up by agents so far this year. the reason they are leaving their countries is the conditions in those countries. they are really bad. it has to be really bad for a parent to want to part company with his or her own 7-year-old. >> democrats say the grim economies in america, coupled with gang violence are pressuring the kids to flee. al jazeera filmed these youngsters in depp tension last -- detention last week. bad economies and gang violence are nothing knew. they say... >> to say that's a reason we have tens of thousands of children, almost entirely coming from guatemala, honduras and el

salvador and illegally entering the united states is not true. i think the humanitarian crisis can be named at the feet of president obama and his daca policy recollects. >> that is the deferred action for children. seeing the republicans attacks coming the administration attempted to get out ahead of things announcing faster deportation for those apprehended, detention facilities for children and families, more immigration judges to be september to the borders. >> in the hearing room the realisation that the thousands of children who have crossed the line are in reality unlikely to be sent back. >> we are dealing with children, and we get it, but we ought not leave the american people with a false impression that somehow the system will work and lead to

removals. once the children are here, they'll stay here. >> so why the rush for the border? migrants are clinging to the hope that once they make it to the united states they'll stay, even if they don't have the proper documents. they are not always wrong, as heidi zhou-castro found out. >> reporter: after six days of travel and three days of detention, this woman clushes her son in one hand and a bag containing their hope for the future. immigration dropped off this wom j and child moments ago. inside is a permit to remain in the country for 30 days, when a judge will decide whether to deport them back to honduras. >> getting in the country feels good. >> reporter: she did not come to feel good, but for a better future for her son and hers.

border patrol picked them up. what would have been the end of the american dream seems to be a detour. the woman and her son is free, holding bus tickets to join relatives in florida. with deattention at triple -- detention at triple capacity, 16,000 american immigrants arriving each month, u.s. immigration officials drop about 500 women and children at this bus terminal each day. she said she had heard rumours that single mothers and children would be allowed to stay in the u.s., which is why she came now. an ice spokeswoman said the families are screened, finger printed and subject to removal. the mothers see it as a free pass. >> this woman from honduras says

she sought out border patrol officers knowing they'd help her. everyone says the united states is helping immigrants enter. what is driving the migration - the rumour that the permit allows you to stay in the u.s. and the lack of jobs. the dangers of the journey, and the discomfort are a small price to pay. she has not showered or brushed her teeth in three days. blocks away. mothers and children find an oasis. a volunteer run shelter behind the gaits offering food, rest and compassion. >> if i were in the same situation and my children were starving and in danger, as a mother i would do anything to keep them safe and bring them to the promise land. >> reporter: catholic charities runs the shelter and acknowledges it is cov yam. the government has nothing but the word of the mothers that

they'll appear for immigration hearings. for the moment, they are set aside. here, what matters is a warm shower and the journey still ahead. it's different now says this woman. no more detention, now we go to our families. in 30 days she'll have to make a decision - appear in court and risk deportation or stay hidden and undocumented. a global demonstration of solidarity today for the al jazeera journalists sentenced to years in prison. peter greste, mohamed fadel fahmy, and baher mohamed were convicted on false charges of helping the muslim brotherhood. within hours governments and news rooms around the world condemned the verdict. there were moments of silence from nairobi to baghdad to london's bbc headquarters. i spoke with al jazeera media network's director for the

americas, and i asked him what the united states could do to help. >> well, i think actually that a lot of countries in the world, including the united states government has spoken out strongly in defense of not only our journalists, but other journalists held in egypt. i think there's a recognition that our journalists are the edge of the sphere. this is an attempt to criminalize journal. >>, not dissent. a lot of people in gaol in egypt are not in gaol for dissent, but are in gale because they didn't to you the party line or speak as they were told. by criminalizing journalism egypt goes down a dark path, trying to take the middle east back 20 years to where it was in the past. i think the international community recognised that and that's why many countries, britain, the netherlands, australia and canada have spoken out forcefully in defense of our

journalists. >> i now you've been asked this before, but let's get into it. the larger political issue is that egypt accused qatar of supporting the muslim brotherhood. and qatar is in part founder of the al jazeera media network. al jazeera english, and al jazeera america. this network. how do you respond to the criticism that qatar is influencing the network and biased against egypt. >> first of all, the egyptian government had 177 days to make its case that reporting for peter and baher mohamed and mohamed fadel fahmy was by asked to egypt. they were unable to make the case. they didn't try. they presented ridiculous videos, music videos, videos of peter's vacation, and peter's

peabody journalism that he did for bbc. regardless of what - any problems that egypt may have, it's a state to state issue, a matter to be dane up between state and taken up at a state level. it's not a matter for journalists who work for an outlet in that state. imagine if the egypt than government had a dispute with the united states and decided that the proper way to take it out was on c number of n reporters, or if there was a dispute with the government and took it out on bbc. it would not be tolerated. that's why the international community and media outlets stood side by side with us. >> let me ask you a question. what do we know about whether peter greste, mohamed fadel fahmy and baher mohamed are tonight and their condition? >> well, i think reports are that their spirits are better

than they were monday when they heard the verdict. i think they recognise that the world is standing by and they want the world to continue standing by them. we have to double efforts to secure freedom. they are in the prison and may be moved. we are not sure what continues they may be in. they've been under tough conditions. at this point i think the international community is doing the right thing, ensuring that the egyptian government recognises that this is an outrageous verdict that can't stand. it has to be reversed through whatever process in egypt. it needs to be reversed. they need to be freed and they need to come home. >> we hoped we would have better news and that that happens in the coming days. scroo coming up,

coming up, money and the monet, a master piece with a $50 million price tag. [ singing ] plus, okay go goes viral with their latest music video, coming up. damage, not a lot of

tornado damage, there are reports towards texas, indiana and illinois. it is the hail as well as the dangerous winds, we are seeing a lot of trees and power loips coming -- power lines coming down. the threat continues tuesday night into wednesday. we have warnings and watches out. where you see the pink, they are thunderstorm watches, and

encompass four or five states. they are seeing that through the rest of the evening. towards the north-east, things will be getting a little worse over the next couple of days. beautiful weather along the eastern see board, awes you can see the -- as you can see the rain is moving into place, and with the rain we are seeing wind damage as well as hail damage as well across parts of upstate new york it is the wind. that will be a problem over the next couple of days. temperatures will be warm. here in new york 85, washington 87. rain continuing million.

jessica bad win is in london with mar. >> reporter: this is a popular

image. claude monet painted hundreds of images, contained in museums and the houses of the rich. >> they are beautiful and modern. in this series of pictures monet was pointing a way forward towards an abstraction in art. that very much appeals to people. >> there are two other monets for sale. the "water lillies" is the most modern. at the time, 100 years ago, it was considered revolutionary. today it is not edgy, it's a calm reproduced image of grand art. >> monet's pictures are not contained to the walls. there's merchandise in the shop, mugs to in effect ties. monet's exhibitions sell out. it's art, but easy to understand. the imedges are favourites for posters and prints.

>> people recognise it and think it's artistic and think they should show it on a mug or tort. >> reporter: the artist is one of the most downloaded. >> it became classical. because it's thought of as classical everyone use it is again and again. >> he was abscessed with water lillies, painting 250 in the last 30 years of his life. he probably didn't envisage it would be used as a plastic watch. [ singing ] okay go is a band known for creating viral video goals from treadmills in 2006 to musical cars in 2012.

they continue to draw rave reviews and fans. this is a video for their new soming, the writing is on the wall. it has 7 million hits. i sat with the guys from okay go as he launched their ep "upside out", and asked where their inspiration came from. >> us. it came from us. tim and i have been best camp since meeting at summer camp at age 11. all of our creative promote is a life-longling. i have known dan for 18 years, 20 years. this is just sort of the collective sensibility of band. >> you guys were doing this for a long time before you hit viral video with "here it goes again." >> how did it change what you

were doing? >> it made us bigger. it helped us to solidify in our minds the chasing our best - we should chase our best inside, that they are trying to play the music industry game, you know, fitting the right radio form at and that stuff. it's a lot of anxiety and the sort of strategy work that has nothing to do with art or music. >> does someone have a thing for tread mills? >> we all have things for treadmills, we are terrified. >> i was kind of terrified - worried that you'd fall. who is the choreographer? >> my sister, trish si, she's a film director and a professional ball room dancer then. that video was the survive of us at her house, four people in the band and her. >> how many takes did it take you to get it right? >> 21 takes. >> 21, 20, i think for the treadmills.

>> you come up with the music, you record and then you do the video, and what's the process? > we make the using and videos in a similar way. we try to put ourselves in this situation with a lot of stuff to play with, you know. when we are in the studio, it's instruments, and core progress and beats. we throw stuff together and figure out where the emotions jump out. sometimes you get a beat and a core progress. lost and fury and melancholy, and they combine. we keep on chasing the instincts. the videos have been incredible. we come up with any project we

feel like doing and chase it there. [ singing ] >> "needing and getting" was one of my favourites, made for the super bowl commercial. are the sounds we hear, the sounds made while you made the video? >> yes, technically they were. it's all live, what they call dio gettic sound recorded while we were films. there were 20 mikes, and we did 20 take of each section. by the time we had the final mix, there was 7,000, 8,000 tracks. we could pick which we wanted you to hear. can you do an impression of what it sounded like?

>> it sounded like (makes sounds). >> dan, how long did it take to film that? >> i believe it took five shoot days. >> yes. >> but we were preparing that for two months. >> yes. >> i mean - yes, at least. i think we actually built instruments for two months, and there was another couple before. we worked with the people in the media lab, and the guys from clank. we had a lot of help. took a few months. >> i think we slated for three shooting days, the santa ana winds blew down half our sets. we had to rebuild. >> let's look at another video, white knuckles. this is beautiful. you do some great work with dogs. how difficult is it to get the dogs to do what you want them to

do? >> those dogs are awesome. every dog had its own trainer on set. they were in control of themselves most of the time. >> the dogs could do your taxes in you asked them to, they were incredible. there was a spectrum of treats for them. they have hot bait, raw chicken, and will do anything for raw chicken. >> well, it's incredible work. we love to watch and listening to your music. thank you for taking the time to be with us and tell us a little bit about it. we look forward to what is coming up next. thank you again. >> thanks for having us. now to the picture of the day. it's amazing what you can do with a piece of paper. especially if you are bob dylan, this is staigsry from the roger -- stationary from the roger smith hotel. he used it to write famous

songs. that was 1965. some of the lyrics were changed, most the same. a classic was bornal. this draft -- born. this draft was put up for auction today and sold for $2 billion. i'll see you tomorrow. "america tonight" with joie ch