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that's when the low-density supersonic craft will be released. the goal is somewhere in the pacific. thank you for joining us. that will do it for this hour, i'm thomas drayton in new york. i'll be back with another hour of news at 11:00pm eastern, 8:00 pm pacific. a supreme setback for president obama, america's highest court unanimously ruling several key appointments he made were unconstitutional. i.s.i.l. has become a feared terror group. could big mistakes spell share doom? we are joined by a "new york times" reporter facing gaol time for refusing to disclose a source. >> an animal suffering from what you think were human ailments.
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hi, i'm antonio mora, this is "consider this". here is more on what is ahead. >> the supreme court delivered a unanimous rebuke to president obama today. the justices said he exceeded his constitutional authority when making three recess appointment. >> it's a blow to the white house. >> 1,000 people, most life civilians killed in iraq. thousands are trying to find safe haven. >> we are here to help and will continue to provide the support you need until you have the ability to return to your homes. >> the supreme court turned down the appeal of a nooms reporter. >> he -- "new york times" reporter. >> he could go to prison for doing his job. >> this is the worst time period for reporters. we begin with two supreme
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court rulings, one a struggle over power and the other a win for anti-abortion protesters. the court ruled in favour of limiting an authority to fill high-level vacancies with temporary recess appointments. the court ruled that president obama acted outside his powers. at the time the isn't at took a break, going briefly into session every three days. supreme court justice steven brier said: in another unanimous ruling the court struck down a massachusetts law creating a 35 foot buffer zone around abortion clinic entrances and suggested smaller buffer zones in use in
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other states might be okay. i'm joined by washington dc by scoet us blog editor who argued cases before the court and co-taught litation at stanford and harr haved, and also bill sh-schneider, a professor at george maich university. every president since george washington used the recess power to make appointments, thursday's ruling is described as a blow to the president's power. is it? >> it is in one sense. it depends on basically the balance of power - who controls the white house, and who controls the senate, and whether they are the same party, this is a decision written by justice steven briar who, was a lawyer with the senate before becoming a judge. he, in the opinion, gave the president some fairly broad powers to make recess
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appointments. basically the president can do it if there's a vacancy that needs to be filled, and the recess is long enough. the caveat is that the senate can effectively start the clock over on the length of a recess, by sending someone this every couple of days to gavel the senate into a session, and closing a few minutes later without doing any work. now it doesn't have a lot of significance in the sense that the president is a democrat, and they control the senate. this could be a different story as soon as november if, as expected, the republicans retake the senate and would be able to block the president's aappointees and prevent them making recess appointments by having pro forma sessions where no work is done. >> it limits the power of the presidency, but that this president right now, because he
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controls - his party controls the senate. that could thaping in the future. >> -- change in the future. >> there's an election in november. the republicans may have a majority. it stakes a majority to determine a presidential appointment. he won't have a majority. republicans will be in a position to block all of his - any of his controversial appointments and he won't be able to make recess appointments the way he or others have done in the past. >> the court may have voted 9 to 0 but is split 5-4 on how broad the rulings should be, the most condeservive, justice anthony scalia accused the majority of adventurism adding: meanwhile justice brier insisted that justice scalia and
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the concurers, if they had their way, they'd render thousands of recess appointments illegitimate, going all the way back to george washington. >> everywhere agreed that these three appointments to the labour relations board violated the constitution. they parted ways. there are five justices led by justice brier, and one of the things they said should inform a court, because the supreme court has never interpreted a res clause before. it's what has the practice beenment the senate never acted to block it. we are not going to upset the apple clerk. the concurring opinion, it looked dissenting, justice scalia read from the bench for 20 minutes, rare for a does sending justice, much less when you agree with the result in a
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case. justice scalia said "this is ridiculous, the fact that they did it for a long time and the senate never objected" he would have read it narrowly. if you read the words of the constitution, they could have made it a tougher ruling than what was decided. bill, reading the tea leaves here, could we see any signal about where the court stands on the division of powers between capitol hill and the white house, given that speaker of the house john boehner says congress will sue the president for overusing executive orders, announcing that this week? >> well, he did announce that. the suite is not likely to go very far. it would be uppress depth for the house to sue the president successfully in court. i think i know what john boehner is up to. he's trying to evade the issue of impeachment.
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if the senate goes under republican majority, there'll be pressure from grassroots conservatives for the house to vote to impeach president obama, they impeach andrew johnson on trumped up charges in the 18 '60s, there'll be pressure to do that in the senate is controlled by republicans. this is john boehner's way of saying don't talk about impeachment, knowing it will be damaging to republicans. he's saying "look, we are suing the president, let's see what happens there.". >> let's turn to the court ruling on the buffer zone. john roberts chief justice wrote that a 35 foot zone that was imposed in massachusetts burdened speech more than it needed to, and that the states should consider something like what new york city has, making it a crime to harass a person. pro-choice advocates are not
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happy, they race the issue that a buffer zone is needed for safety reasons. this was brought by saying i want to counsel people, this law protect me doing it. some of the plaintiffs wanted to counsel women and said you can't take away their right to do this on a public sidewalk or roadway when you haven't tried something else and there are other laws in effect now, both targeted directly at abortion clinics and trespassing and it's too much of a burden on speech. >> what does it mean for other protests, we see limitations and buffer zones from protests from political conventions, world trade organization s, meetings where protests turned ugly. >> this was a decision, an
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interesting line-up in that you had - the choouz wrote for a -- chief justice wrote for a pagerity, what we -- majority, what we consider liberal judges, the thinking was that this was a compromised ruling the other four justices, justice scalia and kennedy and thomas, would have voted to reverse a 2,000 decision by the supreme court that upheld another buffer zone out in colorado, and drew a line 100 feet around abortion clinics and said you can't go within 8 feet of anyone in that clinic, that puffer zone. it will be -- buffer zone. the elwant in the -- elephant in the room is the supreme court itself. >> bill, one time senate majority leader, and speaker of
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the house, howard baker, who died. he was best known for his role on the senate watergate committee when he asked what did the president know wh when did he know it. it seems capitol hill could use a howard baker today. could a sent rift like him have a shot at beak elected. >> howard baker, who you nigh was a professional, a pro, the kind of politician that makes this country work. he knew the arts of deal making, negotiation and compromise and worked for president regan. nowadays politics in washington is tribal. it's tribal warfare. and the candidates that get the most attention is ted cruz, with no interest in negotiation. and the grass routes is more militant. politicians like howard baker are rare in washington.
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>> that's a sad thing. >> amy howell, bill schneider, pleasure to have you on the show. >> the fighting that is tearing the country apart is deepening the crisis. they plan an emergency airlift to bring metric tonnes of food to help 42,000. more than 1.7 million iraqis are said to be internally displaced. for more on the across sis in iraq, i'm joined by executive director for the u.n.'s world food program, the world's largest humanitarian organization, and helps people around the world. you are the first senior u.n. official to visit iraq since the latest crisis began. what have you seen? . >> what i have seen are families who left their homes with absolutely nothing, seeking safety here in and around erbil.
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and they are living in camps that have been provided by the government and are being supported by unhcr and w.f.p. m and other agencies and n.g.o.s to meet a need of food, water and shelter. >> i know the effort there is to provide food for 42,000 people, and the kurdish government said 300,000 have fled areas under control, and that is a fraction of the number of iraqis who need aid. is this the beginning of your efforts. >> unfortunately it's the beginning. the reality is many of those who fled the conflict in and around mosul have come up to the kurdish region, and many of them are living with host communities. those with assets didn't go to the camp. what we find in these situations is quickly, without jobs, support, they deplete the
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assets. we are not feeding them today, but if this conflict goes forward we'll need to increase and feed them tomorrow. >> i know the people that work for you are courageous, working wherever people are in need. can the world food program operate in areas controlled by i.s.i.l.? >> we are working with partners, and there are local ngos getting into the areas. we provide them with food and transport. they are distributing in the areas where international staff would have a challenge actually accessing the communities. we are working with an opposition group here that does not respect humanitarian law, does not report human right or the need of the international humanitarian community to support those who are the innocent victims, the women, children, seniors. we are dependentent upon
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partners and hoping that the government will do their share by providing us with access to the public distribution stocks that they would normally distribute to the poor population, so we can ensure people receive the food they need. >> talking about the terror groups, i was struck by something you wrote, referring to starvation used as a weapon of war. you were writing about syria, how much can be done when no atrocity seems to be out of bounds for the warring parties. >> that is where humanitarians are at a significant disadvantage. >> and we need the international community to demand that no child go hungry. that no child is used as fodder in a war, that we have access to those who require assistance in order to eat. no person should because of a conflict, when there is food available have an inability to
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eat. so we are asking the international community to not forget the victims. we talk about the poll tucks, we don't get removed in the politics, we cap participate in the conflict. we -- we can't participate in the conflict. we don't. we work with the victims. we need the support of the international community to demand that humanitarians have access so that people can live. >> you need a lot of help from the international community. what is happening in iraq is an extension. crisis in syria. in some months you provided aid to as many as 4 million people. can you sustain the erts as the number of refugees and the displaced grows at a rapid pace. >> the generosity of the international community has been as an individual overwhelming to me and appreciated by those we serve. when i talk to mothers the first
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thing they say to me is say thank you to the people helping you help us. and what we can't forget is though there are now three, what we call significant l 3 merp anies, central african republic, south sudan, syria and emerging challenges in iraq, no child should be prioritised, no hungry mother should look into the eyes of the child because the international community did not provide assistance and support. i'm sitting here, days away from ramadan. we have received significant support from not just the traditional donors, but gulf region donors, and are hopeful that they'll continue, and the global community will continue to invest in the work rurd to meet the -- required to meet the needs of the victims of this
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in a few weeks i.s.i.l. has become the world's most feared terrorist group. the insurgents capturing western iraq. they have claimed victory after victory and threaten baghdad. their successors may be short-lived card -- according to my next guest and says they are making mistakes that even saddam hussein warned against. the national correspondent, wim, from slate.com. great to have you with us.
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you reviewed letters taken from osama bin laden's combound to what he believed was the best way to run a terrorist organization. >> this is what he wrote, some of which he practised, and some he learnt. failures in the jihadist movement. >> let's go down the directives. the first is don't fight civil wars. essentially you are saying battling for territory against local governments will have negative consequences for an insurget group. >> yes, basically if you want a theo accuratic state, it doesn't favour you. there are real people that live in the countries and are tired of civil wars, and the way it is resolved is a deal, not leading to three okay rity put an ethnic state. >> another rule is don't kill
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civilians, ironic coming from a mass murderer like osama bin laden. basically saying don't kill muslims because you kill your constituency. >> exactly. i'm not saying osama bin laden was a great guy. he did make the point that what happened to a lot of al qaeda offshoots is they kill a lot of people and eventually the wrong people. they kill members of a sunni tribe and they turn against him. >> it's happening in iraq. >> it's happening in iraq, just as everywhere else, and that's why he was trying to warn his followers. >> i don't remember rule is don't rule harshly. again, it seems that i.s.i.l. is violating that. you point out mosul, and two days after taking the city
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i.s.i.l. banned taking cigarettes. they can't go out unless with a man. government employees that failed to repent would be put to death. you brought this up a couple of minutes ago, isn't imposing sharia law, and calafat, the whole point. >> that's the germ framework, what osama bin laden was shaying to al-shabab, is these guys are too strict and harsh, and you should consult about what he called benefit of the doubt. find ways to be get ler. i.s.i.l. basically ruled so harshly and strictly that people turp against them -- turn against them. people don't want to live under harsh theocracy. >> i.s.i.l. broke another rule - don't flaunt your blood lost. we saw them put together horrific videos showing gunme
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executing iraqi soldiers, taunting shiites. it's bizarre that osama bin laden seemed to be concerned about public relations. >> people say that we are savages and brutal and we have to disprove that. let me think about it. osama bin laden is about pr, and i.s.i.l. is about pr. they have a media operation and are trying to send a message, and that is that we are scare why and bad and will kill everything. there's not a lot of ways to make that effective and scaring everything turps them on you -- turns them on you. another claim is not to claim territory unless you are ready to feed the people. you bring up the example of fallujah, and the red cross reports shortage of food, water and health care. they are having trouble governing and they've expanded the territory massively.
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>> i don't under about the reaction to i.s.i.l. is people talk about it as though it's a brave newed in. no, it's an old idea. you don't have to take territory. you hide in the mountains. for i.s.i.l. to go out and take a bump of territory and hold it, what you end up doing, is you govern fallujah. these people are not god at commmping and they are responsible for the city. >> it's crazy if they are trying to hold the territory and alienate other sunnis. do you think i.s.i.l. will begin to sex destruct. >> i think they are in the process. if you look at the map. where the fighting is, if you start to add up the number of entities fighting i.s.i.l. you have the syrians bombing them, the shi'ites marshalling
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their forces and iran is moving in, and the united states plotting with the reconnaissance. you have the kurds fighting them in the north. i am sure the turks will be in soon. it's too big a list of enemies forriun organization to take on. >> the pieces are thought provoking. pleasure to have you with us. >> thank you. >> the plight of three al jazeera journalists sentenced to prison in egypt prompted worldwide protests and prompted us to look at threats to reporters and journalism throughout the world. journalism is not only under assault in other countries, but at home. we are joined by pulitzer prize winner george rice ep, author of "state of wore", the government alleges that jeffrey stirling, c.i.a. agent, indied in 2010 was a source for riesen's book.
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he has refused to testify. the supreme court ranged an appeal saying he could not ignore a spap to testify -- subpoena to testify because he's a journalist. he could face gaol time. jim, good to have you with us. thank you for joining us. >> thanks for having me. >> you spoke at the sources and secrets conference and had this to say about the president obama administration. >> they are now perceived widely within the journalistic industry, i think, as the greatest enemy of press freedom that we have encountered as an industry in at least a generation. others echoed your comment. you know, president obama, of course, promised a lot of transparency. the administration has pretty much doubled down on bush
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administration tactics, doing things the bush administration barely considered. >> yes, i think there's in much doubt about it. pt track record -- the track record is clear. they had more leak investigations and prosecutions and have gaoled more people in connection with stories that have appeared in the media, than any other administration ever has. they have cracked down on reporters in various ways over the last few years, and whistle blowers. and they tried to shut off the flow of information from the government to the people. which is the whole point of the first amendment. >> and you said that the administration is trying to create a de facto officials act, that it's trying to control national security reporting so only the facts that the government wants heard, are
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heard. how. >> one way they have done it is by prosecuting and conducting criminal investigations of stories they don't like. if you - if the people write stories in the dash in my case in a book, in other cases in the newspapers or other media, broadcasting, if there's a story that is embarrassing to the obama administration, or raising questions about u.s. policies, there's a good chance that they'll conduct a leak investigation if it involves in their mind some aspect of national security. so they will be happy to provide information officially leaked through the white house and officially sanctioned that makes the obama administration administration's national security policies look good. stories that are raising serious
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questions, investigating u.s. policy - they are more likely to be subjected to a criminal leak investigation by the federal bureau of investigation, and the justice department. the justice department is being used by the obama administration much like president nixon used an enemies list. it's a more officially sanctioned version of an enemy's list. >> the white house called for a pardon or clemnessy for al jazeera journalists imprisoned in egypt. what kind of message does it send to the rest of the world when the administration is facing so much criticism from journalists. >> that is the most important thing we should think about is what is the - what is the message that the president obama administration is sending to the rest of the world in the way it handles press freedom. it's providing a - the message
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is going out from washington to the rest of the world, that it's okay to crackdown on reporters. so countries like egypt get the message. i, unfortunately believe that the way in which the obama administration cracked down on press freedom september a green light to countries like egypt, that it's okay to gaol reporters. because of the crackdowns that you are talking about, including your case, the reporters without freedom, without borders, press freedom index had the u.s. plummeting to 46th in the world when it comes to press freedoms. do you think we'll see a shield law to protect journalists from revealing sources. there are proposals that made some progress in the house and senate. but it's likely if anything becomes law, likely it would have a security exception. >> right. i mean, it's difficult to tell right now which way the
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legislative process will go. you know, the problem today - i believe that we theed a shield law -- we need a shield law, so i'm not sure which way congress will go. the problem that the president obama administration has brought on itself is that it has performed - done all the crackdown at the same time saying that it supports shield legislation. it has a mixed message. as i said, they are sending the message to the rest of the world and it is dangerous, which is the home of the first amendment is cracking down on journalism. everywhere else you can do the same thing. >> at a time where journalists are persecuted on every continent of the earth. >> pleasure to have you with us. >> i want to say i support the al jazeera reporters and hope they are freed soon. >> thank you very much.
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only at al jazeera america military drones have changed the american way of war. from flying lopping surveillance missions to locating and blasting taliban and al qaeda, terrorists in remote hideouts with hell-fire miles. civilian drones in the u.s. have been limited to small models flown by hobbyists under limitations that are not always followed. we are like i to see an explosion in the number of drones when new rules mandated by a 2012 law, allowing commercial drones to share the domestic air space. with the increase in drone flights on the way, the big question is - are they safe. >> i'm joined by the author of a
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three part investigative series on gron and safety -- drone and safety, "the washington post" reporter craig. you report that the u.s. military, who has more experience than anyone else has major accident, including 47 in the u.s., causing 2 million in damage. so far nobody has been killed. have you been lucky. >> there has been close calls, as we reported in april. there was an army drone that crashed in a school yard. an elementary school, not far from the capital. the drone fell out of the sti and landed near the playground 30 minutes after kids went home from the day. you can imagine the pension for disaster. >> there was one in afghanistan where a drone crashed into the basis. what are the chief causes of
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military drone failures, and how do they apply to an age of civilian grown flights. >> they are born into three categories, each analogous to what happens with drones. three mistakes is pilot error, mechanical problems, that's problem with the drone in flight or landing and the third area that hasn't had the kinks worked out are the wireless control linkses, sat light linkses that tells it where it's going. usually they are reliable, but when they go on the fritz, the drone can go out of control. >> there's no pilot sitting there with real eyes looking around and acknowledge the space the drone is in. >> that's right. that's a problem. the f.a.a. calls it
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detect-no-void. in a regular plane, they can look out the windshield, see what is around them. that's what they are taught to do. with the drone you have a camera, which is powerful, but there's a limited field of vision, and the operator on the ground doesn't have as good a vision as to what is going on outside. civilian drones are so small, talking about detect and avoid, current designs for civilian drones don't have that technology to avoid other aircraft. if we see thousands of drones flying around the united states, do we face a danger that this will be a wild west in the skies. >> there is a wild west in the sky, in that the f.a.a. - guidelines prohibit commercial drone use, two exceptions. there's a couple of operations in alaska, in the tundra where nobody is, and hobbyists who fly
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drones like remote controlled airplanes. they are allowed to do that as long as they keep it under 400 feet. the problem is drones are so cheap for people to get their hands on, $500, $600, people buy them, don't get training and take them where they shouldn't. there has been 15 reports by pilots, private or airlup, of close calls or encounters with drones over major airports, and that gets to the heart of the wild west concerns that people are nighing them where they shouldn't. >> so you have close calls with airliners, and there has been more than 200 unsafe incidents in general in the united states, crashes, since 2009. one thing that comes to mind as you look at the smaller drones
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easily accessible, rpt these things a terrorists dream? >> i don't know that i would go that far. there has been reports of incidents where there was talk or discussion of taking a drone and crashing it. the larger one, that's not something some guy will cook up in the basement. they are better, take skill and capabilities beyond a terrorist group. the thing that you could use drones for with cameras or to crash into another plane, we haven't seep evidence of that getting very far. whether -- seen evidence of that getti getting far. whether the f.a.a. puts in rules, it may cause problems.
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>> you quoted: americans don't seem too cop have you beensed, 22% -- convince vinced, 22% thinking opening air space is for the better. are there positive uses for drones? >> no question. what we have seen is there has been a revolution in warfare with drones. there'll be a revolution in civil aviation. the reason is two fold. drones can stay aloft for a lopping period of time. 20 hours, 30 hours for military options. a person in the cockpit has to come down. so drones are cheaper in many records, they can go places a regular airtime has trouble
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doing. but for things like search and rescue, law enforcement, and other uses for the common good. yes, there are safety issues that have to be worked out and the f.a.a. says they'll move steadily but slowly to make sure that these things can be introduced safely and in international air space. what we were trying to do was show that there were a lot of broader systematic concerns with the technology that have not been sorted out yet. >> there's the privacy issues brought back to life when we saw a woman with a drone outside her apartment window. we'll leave that discussion for another day, it's an interesting investigative series. craig whit lock, pleasure to have you with us. >> thank you very much. >> "consider this" will be right back.
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>> tech know. >> we're here in the vortex. only on al jazeera america. could can humans learn about mental illness among animals. many show how a goat fell into depression, refusing to eat after being separated from a life-long friend, a donkey. it's hard to hold back tears when you see the uplifting reunion. dogs, cats, gore illas and elephants can suffer from a wide range of elements. it's addressed in a book titled "animal madness - how anxious dogs, compulsive elephants in recovery help ourselves." we have the author here, a ted fellow and joins us from san francisco, laurel, good to see you. the video of the donkey and the goat gets anyone.
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in your book you have many fascinating story about animals. your experience led you to write this. your experience with your dog oliver. >> yes, it was heartbreaking. i adopted him with my ex-husband. the first six months he was an amazing dog. he developed debilliating separation and compulsion and other problems. >> it's really sad to see that story. i know you mention that rescue dogs in particular, rescue animals often have been given up for adoption because of problems they have. >> absolutely. we are all a function of our earlier experiences. >> you address cases of all sorts. with all sorts of animals, let's start with animals in zoos. a famous case was gus, a polar bear in new york central zoo who in the '90s swam figure eights
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for 12 hours a day. he was scaring chin and freed with all sorts of things, with some sorts of therapies and prozac, you found there were more mental illness in some animals. >> when it comes to polar bears, it's hard to replicate the stimulation they get in their natural environment. i don't mean physical exercise, but the vast array of emotional experience that happens. >> there's a name for it, zoo cos sis. >> i don't use the term in the book, but i understand where it comes from. if you are in an environment that stresses you out, of course you'll see a variety of disturbing befores. animals form attachments, there are emotions of gore illas moved
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from one zoo to another, how they cry, and you discuss the case of elements in thailand. when they became illegal, they became distraught and dangerous. there are all sorts of emotions that animals have been have. >> absolutely. luckily many of us can recover. >> anyone who owns a dag, you know, you know that dogs have feelings. we heard, talking about domestic animals, people who come home from a trip tore being away for a few hours and finding the dogs chewed up the furniture. that can be a sign they are suffering from a mental illness, anxiety or dementia. >> absolutely, i would want to be care. . because a dog chews up your couch doesn't mean they are pathological. if they do it like a person with an obsessive compulsive
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disorder, that's something to pay attention to. >> you say oced is a big issue, what treatment options are there? >> all kind of things, we tried valium and prozac. many animals, what helps is exercise, exposure to other animals that can help them, a member of their species getting another dog or another rat, but not always. sometimes humans are the best therapy animals. >> i know you are concerned about overmedication this dispoos in particular -- zoos in particular. i know you are not advocating that animals be given drugs willy nilly. >> what can animals learn? >> we owe them a lot. everything we know about the unhinged human minds came from studies. we owe them the psychodrugs that
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we take. it's not like we are taking dog or rat drugs. beyond that, recognising mental distress makes us better at being human, makes us more empathetic and identifying with them can help us help them. easy to identify with some of your stories "animal madness", thank you laurel. >> thank you for having me. >> we'll be back with more of "consider this". r
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and 30s moving back home. the numbers surprise you. one in five young adults boomer appinged back to their -- boomer appinged back to their old high school bedroom, and 60% receive financial support from mum and dad. some parents may find this troubling. experts say they better get used to it. i'm joined by dr jeff gharde ear, a psychologist. he has experienced the effects of being a parent to a boomerang kid when his 21 year-old moved home. how is it going? >> it's going all right. i'm surviving it. >> look at the numbers. he is one of a tonne. one in five young adults living back home, 60% of them getting financial support from mum and dad. this is a big significance from a generation ago. what is going on? is this generation different. >> they are different. it makes it more pal atable for
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me and him. so many of his friends are in the same situation. it is about the finances, and born into a situation of where they just can't achieve what we did as parents. this is a generation of children who may not be able to own their own homes, and, of course, getting the high school college degrees, and going into a recession. it just makes it so much hard are. >> because they graduated into a recession, and studies show that people who graduate into the recession make less 20 years later than people who graduated into the boom that happened in the '90s. >> absolutely. >> it's a big dimples. >> and student debt is a big part of it. >> they can't make a living. >> student debt is a problem. we are seeing a lot of college students making it out. carrying on 20, 40, 60,000 in debt. i'm working with medical student as part of truro.
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once they graduate they carry 200,000 in debt. a lot of young people, as they are getting out. as they are getting jobs, need to lay over at the parents home so they can save money with regard to the cost of housing. >> and a lot of these kids have trouble getting jobs. many of them are underemployed, where they have jobs where the college degrees do not help them at all. >> and making less money. >> and making less money. what do you say to people who say in the long run it may not be a bad thing, going home may be a good launching point. >> studies show that there are young people using this to their advantage. not that they are taking control of the situation of using the parents and their money, but more than anything else, saving money, getting involved in business ventures, and being
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able to invest a lot of that money into the venture instead of into represent or into housing. this is a positive thing. this is becoming our new normal. i say the rule of the game is if you want to move in with a parent, that's fine, but contribute to that parent, contribute to the cost, save money, and show the parent that it's a short-term plan that this is just to get you on your feet so you can do well. >> because you are concerned about psych loomingical dependence, that they may get depressed. >> i'm afraid it's too conveept. an arrangement of convenience, now you don't have the executiveduation, the independence and you reagrees, you -- regress, you spend more time at home. you are back in a room climbing into an environment of being in a womb and not moving as fast and forward that you need to be.
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>> the relationship with parent doesn't seem to deteriorate. a quarter say it gets worst, a quarter better. >> 50% say it's not bad at all. >> on the other hand are we being too tough. if we look at south america, europe, a lot of young people don't leave home until they are married. in the 40s americans stayed home in great e numbers after college. >> that's right. in the 40s and the '50s. we are used to the fact that we had boom times in the '60s, and the "70, and the culture was one of go out, get the college edu caughts and become as -- education, and become as independent as you can. the trend is going to the other way. it's not out of the choice, but this is something we need to do or we may go ahead and sink. it's not always the best
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situation. >> is it hard on some of them when they go back and say "i need you to take care of me.". >> it can be if the parents don't intich their parenting style. i -- switch their parenting style. i'm a shrink and i got into "you better pick up your socks and make sure the toilet seat is down", because of my ocd. and i realised he's notling to me, because i'm -- listening to me because i'm not talking to him as a 15-year-old. we shouldn't embarrass our children. we need to support them in whatever they do, even if it means coming home, but we need to push them out a little more and reminding them look for work, get an education, saviour money because you want to get out there and have your own family do your own thin. >> big adjustment on both side.
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