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♪ >> access to food and water and their entire way of life. >> $47 million in humanitarian aid and, yes, we know that much more will be needed from us and from the international community. we know that much more will be needed from us and the international community. >> $7 million until humanitarian aid and we know that we, together with the international community have to do more. >> we also understand the importance of long-term
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reconstruction. once a cease-fire has been reached, we certainly ready to discuss and work through the incredibly complicated, underlying issues that have led to this crisis. >> once a cease-fire is established, we are prepared to discuss and work towards revolving all of the complex issues that have been this crisis. >> the loss of lives and the humanitarian impact is really heartbreaking, and we are joining our international pers in reiterate der partners in reiterating and return to the cease-fire that was reached in 2012. >> a heartbreaking issue. it cannot continue. we share our international
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stakeholders to reinforce the 2012 cease-fire. >> early, it's not enough. >> negotiation recogarding the underlying issues and addressing all of the concerns that have brought us to where we are today. >> it's important to have a wide range discussion of all of the issues that led to the crisis and to remedy them. >> hamas has a fundamental choice to make, and it is a choice that will have a profound impact on the people of gaza.
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and the egyptians have provided a framework and a forum for them to be able to come to the table to have a serious discussion together with other factions of the palestinians. >> president abbas has been here and in israel, other countries, talking with leaders in order to try to encourage the palestinian people to be able to come around a solution to this crisis. >> other countries to the palestinian people to reach an
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agreement in this respect. so, we wanted to bring you up to date as to where we are here. we have had constructive meetings thus far, and i intend to be continuing our conversations through today and in to the next days in order to work to see if we can find a way forward, a way that ends the violence and then addresses the underlying causes of this crisis. >> we have held constructive meet and we intend to continue these discussions today and over the coming days to find a way forward to end violence and address all of the underlying
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>> dealing with the underlying causes and issues of the problems in the gaza strip which i think is meant perhaps to address some of the concerns of hamas who say the siege must end as part of any deal. i thought it was significant, too, when he talked about all of the diplomacy that was going on, he was only speaking when he was with the egyptians about the egyptians and the palestinian faction and palestinian president abbas saying he had been to some other current trees. he didn't even that i am nem. >> shows you some of the problems that are going on. the fact he's not even naming turkey and qatar who have been involved in this process. i think the bad relations between egypt and turkey and qatar on the others, these are key countries that can have
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leverage and try to bring a deal. i think that's one of the problems and the u.s., i think, is not only trying to work as a mediator to deal with the actual fighting on the ground. it's trying to deal as a mediator between the different countries that can help the fighting on the ground. it's very difficult situation action of course, because the egyptian government you see now is not the egyptian government that negotiated the last cell phone in 2012, then a muslim brotherhood, president morsi was in charge. he is now in jail and hamas sees president sisi nearly as much as israel as an enemy. >> is this the thing, james? because hamdans, one of the spokespersons for hamas on al jazeera earlier was saying it wasn't the fact that it was the e job descriptions doing the brokering that was the problem. it was the initiative, itself, where buy hamas does not trust
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those in pour in egypt at the moment. >> things are linked. they don't like the terms of the deal. they believe see they can be combined in hamas's view about what is being proposed at this particular time. this is the only key figure -- this isn't the only key figure. ahead of yon kerry left cairo is ban ki-moon. it's coming to tel aviv in the next few minutes, we expect him to see prime minister netanyahu trying to put the israeli side of this in place. john kerry said the israelis are prepared for a cease-fire agreement. >> that's not quite as simple as it sounds. there are some in the israeli political elite and military command who perhaps feel now
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having been on the ground in gaza seen the complexity of some of the tunnel structures. >> that's what we are hearing they are seeing some of these tunnels are much more sophisticated than they thought. there are some who would like to press on with the military operation for a few more days. >> at the moment, thanks very much indeed for joining us from west jer ice let me our guest the editor at large, is what do you make of the latest it diplomatic round? does this push toward some sort of peace between the palestinians and the israelis action being brokered by egypt and the u.s.? >> you know what? the problems with all of that is while the palestinians are dying on the ground, it is really the regional and international politics at play. what you see is exactly that. it is a very complications indicated effort being carried by all parties being the qataris or the egyptians or the turks
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or, indeed, the americans. and the problem is each one of these are only thinking of the ego, of themselves. none are really thinking of the palestinians who are dying, the children and the women at large. so i don't believe that any of this effort is going to bear at the moment. i do not also believe like i think it indicated that israel is ready for a cease-fire to be honest. israel did not anticipate the lengths and the depths of the tunnels that they want to destroy. they are well on their way of destroying a large number of them. nevertheless, they feel that they need another few days and i do not think that the government of the netanyahu -- of prime minister netanyahu or mr mr. leiberman -- they are peace of mind people that want to bring about peace. they will only ramey sign for such a deal. they may say yes, we are ready. but i do not believe that. and i think they will only sign when they feel that their work
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is more or less accomplished and not only at destroying the tunnels but, also, other sites inside gaza. >> what role is the arab league playing, if any, in this because the arab league urged hamas to go forward with this latest initiative. >> with respect to secretary, i do not believe it is playing in any role in lives. it's like the u.n. is rather irrelevant. they have a name. they have offices. they try to play a role. but, also, like the u.n., they are infected with other problems and other rivalries inside the arab league. i do notplasty that the arab league at this point. maybe it would like to play, i am sure, it would like to play but i do not think that it is rather significant. what's significant today is that mr. kerry had visited the arab league. he is probably the first
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american foreign secretary to visit the arab league offices in cairo. i think the americans are in a limbo on that because they know that they can't say anything to prime minister netanyahu. they know he is going to do it. they know diplom attic efforts on the other side are also rather complications indicated. all of the countries, i mean circumstancesey an allie of the americans. qatar, egypt. it's a very complicated situation. the problem, again, is that while all of this is happening, it is all of these people, hundreds of people are being killed and millions are losing lives. we talk about how many people are dead or injured. what about these people needing psychological -- it's about 80% 80% have no jobs. they are trapped in death everywhere they look. they have the sea on one side
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and israel on the other side and they have the huge problems with the egyptians as we know now. so, it's really a very, very bad situation. and what do you expect people to do when they are entrapped like that? of course, they take up arms and try to defend themselves. it is ridiculous to hear mr. netanyahu talking about israel defending itself. it is not like that at all. it's the poor palestinians that are really entrapped in gaza strip and we all know how dense is the population living in that piece of land. i cannot understand how the world can watch and see. i actually heard mr. cameron yesterday talking about what they should do with russia when it comes to ukraine. but none of this you hear about the palestinians. the palestinians can die. it seems that the world can watch. but this should not happen. >> i think it isn't the problem you are saying is that that part of the world is so complex, so
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entangled, that world leaders are afraid to speak out for upsetting one another. you. >> upsetting israel. it's israel that's the darling. world. it's israel that has the congress, american congress on its side. so, it's clear who really is the victim here but what i do not understand is that the hypocracy that is going on. the world is treating this as another syria or iraq or people as if they got used to arab blood being spilled. it's fine. they don't -- it's as if they are not human. the palestinians have suffered for a long, long time. i hope the piece efforts now being negotiated are not just a short solution. it's not a cease-fire that gaza needs only. it needs it quickly, of course, but we need to address the long-term problems that gaza and the palestinians have, as you well know. >> thank you.
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i know you will stay with yus. that you were for your analysis. al jazeera office was hit with two direct gunshots on tuesday. the windows were smashed and journalists are now working from temporary accomodation as a result. another international media outlet was using the office at the time and was safely evacuated along with al jazeera's teams. israel's foreign minister said his government is seeking to ban al jazeera from operating inside israel, speaking to a meeting jerusalem with his rwandan counter part. he said he reviewed the status of the channel. he we want on to say al jazeera has become a pilar of massive propaganda efforts. >> al jazeera considers those comments to be very serious. israel is accountable to al jazeera's teams working in israel and the pal stipian territory. . let's take you live now to gaza city and speak toays's stefanie dekker who is going to
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give us an update on the situation on the ground. stephanie, what has been happening in the past couple of hours since woefb talking about diplo --e have been talking about diplo -- -- diplomatic efforts, what's happening on the ground. >> many people here in the course of this conflict -- and we have covered it since it began -- will tell you that they feel rejected and discarded by the international community and by the arab current trees, specifically the arab countries, in fact. many people will tell you. i hope that it happens to them, what's happening to us because they are allowing us to suffer through this. the death toll, 612 people over the course of these 15 days. the last two, three days of the stepped up ground offensive, one day was 100 people in 24 hours. one day 50 in over 24 hours. >> gives you an indication of quite how strong this military campaign is and what we are seeing is a huge number of civilians, especially children.
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. >> we are clearly having a few problems there with our correspondent stefanie dekker talking about what it's like to be in gaza at the moment. we know, of course, that more than 600 people, about a fourth of them children in the past couple of weeks. we have seen several pictures of the hospitals where people have been taken and the ears such as shujayea which have been effectively decimated due to the israeli bombardment. diplomatic efforts again underway in cairo. the u.s. secretary of state john kerry has been meeting both the u.n. secretary general ban ki-moon and the egyptian foreign minister. you can see them there at that press conference that took place in the last half hour or so. basically saying that the only
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initiative piece is the one being proposed by egypt. earlier on al jazeera, hamdan, one of the spokes european for hamas said they rejected the initiati initiative, not so much that it had been proposed by egypt but it wasn't actually adhering to what hamas's demands are, opening of borders into gaza, the release of prisoners being held by israel to relief some of the suffering of the people in gaza. >> clearly, obviously, is not something israel is prepared to negotiate on at the moment. certainly not the releasing of prisoners. so we will have more on the diplomatic efforts right now because with me is gerald kaufman, a british member of parliament with the opposition labor party. as you can see, he is with me in our london studio. thank you for coming in. >> hello. >> your first thoughts on the reaction so far of international government, particularly the
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u.k. government which, of course, is conservative-led. it's not your government. what maz been the response to you so far. >> their attitude has been disgraceful. >> why? >> when i spoke in the house of commons yesterday and the frame minter, david cam responded, he blamed everything on hamas. the fact that the israelis are mr. dyess murdering huge numbers of palestinians is secondary as you have been saying and making clear, the issue is i have led
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delegation to gaza when it is not as bad as it is now. the situation is quite clear: their water supplies are very, very low indeed. their fishermen are not allowed to go out into the open sea by theitsisi navy and there is no point of them fishing in shore because the waters are polluted by sewage. schools cannot be rebuilt. the israelis have turned the gaza strip with 1.8 million people into a hell on earth through their blockade. >> egypt is to blame, too, for not opening the rafah crossing through which i went, when i went to gaza.
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but the real responsibility is that of the israelis for the blockade hamas are not condoninghamas rockets but hamas will go on resisting will go on attacking until the blockade is lifted. >> isn't there a fear, though, among those who support. >> isn't there a fear that should israel concur and say we are going to open the borts, let the demands that hamas is making, let the political prisoners out the blockade that's imprisoning these people, isn't there a fear on the palestinian side that the fear or hatred of israel is so great they would then capitalizedize on that and take revenge, if you like because those borders are
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open? >> the genuine fear? >> i think that's at that complex argument. >> sure. >> the straightforward argument is this: that if i was a palestinian living in the gaza strip or in the west bank, may i say, where life is also hell, if i was a palestinian living in the gaza strip and my children were not able to go to school, they had too little food, they had too little water, they weren't free, i would hate the israelis and if you are talking about hatred of israel, that hatred is being nourished, nourished. when i led my delegation to gaza, we drove right along the strip and children were lining the road as we dove along. every single child who is deprived in that way is going to
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be turned into an enemy of israel, and israel has created it's. >> own en kneemienemies. it didn't used to be like this. >> thank you. appreciate your time. all right. still to come on this newshour, britain does a u-turn on the murder inquiry into the death of a russian former kgb agent. and the nba star, lebron james hits the right notes in the off season before reporting for duty. we will have those details in sport. . >> the first bodies of those who died on the shot-down airline flight will arrive back in the netherlands on wednesday. a train carrying 200 body bags pulled into
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government-controlled eastern ukraine early on tuesday. the remains will then be flown to the netherlands. formerly identifying those passengers who perished on board mh17 could take months. >> the latest, let's take you live to al jazeera scott hideler in haqif for us. what will happen next, scott? >> those bodies arrived about five hours ago now. they are on a factory complex and what happened was there was a group of about 90 people inside that factory receiving those bodies. 30 of them were diplomats and from what they are telling us is that there was a moment of silence when he nguyen they arrived in that factory facility where they will most likely remain until they go to the airport to be put on that dutch c-130 hercules aircraft and taken to the netherlands and then that's where they will do the identification process. it will take months. we need to say at least on wednesday because through this process, there are a couple of
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steps. there are several steps. looking at those bags, the bodies, the body parts, making sure it's documented properly and it has to go through a customs process, paperwork here in ukraine. so they are saying at least each bag will take probably about 30 minutes to go through this process but they are hoping they say they will probably work overnight doing this to get them back to get them out as quickly as possible. >> scott, women the deputy prime minister has arrived. what is it he had to say? >> he is heading the ukrainian government in this incident. he said et cetera meeting with malasian authorities and the international civil aviation body. >> apologies for that. we appear to have lost scott heidler reporting live there from haqif. but i believe we can speak now
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to al jazeera's david. we are going to go to a report he filed earlier because most of those who died in the crash were from the netherlands. >> the dutch primarie minister d the identification process could take months. in the amsterdam, this report a short time ago. >> the dutch prime minister confirmed the bodies will start being flown back to the netherlands on wednesday. n they will not come here to the international airport but to a military base in indhoven and to another military facility. he said the identification process in some cases could take from weeks to months. the feeling here at the international airport at skipol is 1 of great dpripings and anger still. the feeling has been best summed up by the new king, willem alexander. he said the whole incident left
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a deep scar and cut into the soul of the dutch. behind are the banks of flowers that have been laid,tributes to those who died in this incident. perhaps the most move something from a man who lost his 17-year-old daughter. he said in an open letter to mr. putin, to the ukrainian government and to the separatist leaders that you have murdered my only and dear child. he said he hoped they all could look and bear to look in the mirror after what they have done. so the planes will start arriving soon. there will be more than one. the identification process will be very difficult, of course, for the relatives. this could and will take a long time and will be terrible for those involved. >> davidchater from amsterdam. still ahead, all. sport including one of the starts after world cup makes a big money move to real madrid. we will have more in a couple of
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meetings in the middle east. >> the bodies of the victims from flight mh17 have arrived in eastern ukraine. some of them are expected to arrive in the metherlands on wednesday. the european union said it will not announce any new sanction lifts against russia until thursday following the downing of the malaysian airway lines plane. 28 ministers have been meeting brussels to discuss their next move. there is increasing pressure from the u.s. and the u.k. to step up the measures. several ministers have said the bloc needs to consider an arms embargo against moscow. ays naddeen barber from perilous. what chance that all of those international leaders can agree on some form of sanctions against russia if, indeed, they want to do that.
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>>. >> best talks began there was talk of move to go stage 3 sanctions which would see a new kind of sanctions apply to whole sectors of the russian economy over russia's influence in eastern ukraine hitting areas like the energy sector. given that current trees like germany and italy are so rely ant on energy supplies from russia, that was always going to be a hard sell. they have been talking for hours already. nothing has come out. one more likely prospect was the addition of new names of individuals and companies to the sanctions list. that was something that many people were pushing for. notably britain was the most voc vocal. however, a lot of people were cautious about what the dutch would because there was reports the dutch didn't want any new sanctions until all of those bodies of the victims had been repat treeiated and an investigation was underway. theds dutch foreign minister did
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say aerial on tuesday all options were on table and he would like to see russia held to accoun accounts. it's lear there has been no agreement, chances of an actual agreement on tuesday are dwindling, felicity. >> the problem is the number of people expected to be around the table, they all have different interests. don't they, within russia, itself? it's all very well for australia's prime minister tony abbott to say more needs to be done. russia is at fault but he doesn't have so much at stake as do other countries within europe, especially in the european union. >> absolutely. beyond the investigation and the around the downing of the passenger plane in eastern ukraine, different countries as you say have different interests. britain has a lot of russian investment in the city of london. david cameron, the prime minister has been pushing for tougher sanctions and he said
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that the sale by france of two ships carrying helicopters would be unthinkable. the french have started to push back. earlier in the week, they said that although the first ship would be delivered, the second could be made conditional on russia's attitude toward hetch, the so-called separatists but it seems the french are pushing back saying we don't appreciate david cameron's tough line on the issue. there are other countries with interests, energy supplies from russia, particularly german. german and france, two crucial players in the talks. it seems unless they can be persuaded, nothing is going to happen in the next few hours. >> that's al jazeera in brussels at those talks. thanks very much indeed for the moment in the ukrainian city of donetsk residents have been surveying damage to their city after more fighting broke out there more on monday. five people died and 12 were wounded during clashes near the
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railway station. pro-russian rebels said ukrainian forces tried to take back the city t kiev insists they were with small pro-ukrainian groups. al jazeera's peter sharp can bring us the reaction now from kiev, and if i understand it, peter, ukraine's parliament has voted to increase the number of troops who are battling the pro-russian separatists in the east. >> reporter: that's right. they have announced a mobilization of reservists from all across ukraine and they have raised the age of those liable for conscription from 30 to 60. so this is at sign of ukraine's intention to reinforce its activities, it's so-called anti-tear or operations in the south and east of the country and, also, it is an indication of the real concern that the ukrainians have of russian buildup of forces on its long
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border with ukraine. they were told in parliament this morning that 41,000 russian troops are now deployed on the border and they are backed up by 150 tanks and about 400 armored vehicles, a very real and pertinent threat seen by the people in kiev, the government in kiev with that russian buildup. in fact, there was an interesting poll carried out this morning, and 58% of ukrainians around the country -- that includes from the south, way up to the west -- 58% believed that they were already at war with russia. and the president, the ukrainian president, petro poroshenko was meeting with the finish president today and he was asking him to call on other nations toss try to stop russia importing mil statements and weapons in to ukraine from the russian border. >> peter, how much support does
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ukraine believe it now has internationally particularly following the crash of mh17 in eastern ukraine? >> there is a feeling here, really interesting, a feeling of guilt by many people that they somehow were responsible for what happened on their territory. it's to some people very frustrating and almost embarrassing that the ukrainian army cannot seem to deal politically or militarily with the rebels and that land where that aircraft came down is simply not their own. it now belongs to russian separatists and as we just heard, that the fear's really here that more needs to be done in the presence of the russian troops on the border is a growing concern. >> good to talk to you. peter sharp live from kiev. thanks so much. >> threeays journalists have spent 206 days in an egyptian
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prison falsely accused of heading the outlawed muslim brotherhood t mohammed was given seven years and received an additional 3 because he had a spent bullet in his possession which he picked up at a protest. arningz continues to demand that it's journalists be freed. if afghanistan, a taliban suicide bomber has killed three foreign advisors and an afghan interpreter outside a police compound in the capitol, kabul. they say the stacker decimated his motor bike outside of the if of the deputy minister of accounts, it is the latest of a series of taliban attacks on nato and government offices. >> iraqi christians are fleeing the northern city of mosul following attacks from fighters. meanwhile, the iraqi government stepped up attacks against the rebels. many injured are civilians who have to travel long distances to
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find medical help. from kirkuk, a report. >> reporter: putting a face to the civilian casualties in iraq, rheme is a victism of a mortar strike. >> my daughter, this is the iraqi army, say we should just -- this is terrorist. see? this is my daughter. >> this family is from the city of tikrit where that has been intention fighting where the iraqi army and sunni-armed groups. it's a place where civilians can't find medical help. >> they don't have good doctor. they don't have nothing. they send me to kirkuk. >> this is the main hospital in kirk youuk under the control of kurdish forces surrounded by territory controlled by
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sunni-armed groups. reaching this relatively safe region origin region is not easy. doctors say 13-year-old hadil had a 6-hour window to receive necessary treatment but her family arrived here too late. >> there are no hospitals in s. amara. i had to drive on dirt roads. i had to find fuel along the way. it took me 25 hours to reach kirkuk. >> because of that, had ill has been in a coma for a week, and she is unlikely to come out of it. >> civilians are not protected in this conflict. from the rebel controlled city of saluga, she was walking when a barrel bomb landed close by. she is hundreds of kilometers away from home because according to her, the hospital in the city was also targeted. >> hospitals in kirkuk may not be targets but they are not well equipped to handle mass casualties. already, they are treating casualties among kurdish
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shoulders holding against the fighters. >> now, 206 injured patients from different parts near to kirkuk. >> moustafa is a victim of an attack that mary plame on a bombing that killed more than 30 people at a checkpoint guarded by kurdish forces. he is clinically dead and like so many of iraq's casualties, he wasn't holding a gun. zana hoda, kirkuk. >> taking you to tel aviv where there is a press conference with ban ki-moon and the israeli prime miles per hour sister netanyahu. >> to penetrate our terri to kidnap and kill israelis. on the face of such wanton terrorism, no country could sit idly by.
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it would exercise its right inherent and legitimate right of self defense as we are doing and act decisively to emmed the threat to its citizens. >> this is whattis is doing. we did not seek this esclation, mr. secretary. we accepted the egyptian cease-fire proposal. i don't need to remind you it was a proposal that was supported by the u.n., by the arab league, by the united states, by europe. hamas rejected it. we accepted the humanitarian cease-fire proposal that the u.n. proposed afterwards. hamas rejected that. we accepted the cease-fire proposal of the red cross. humanas rejected -- hamas rejected that twice. i think the international communities must take a clear stand. it must hold hamas accountable for consistently rejecting these cease-fire proposals and for
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starting and prolonging this conflict. international community must hold hamas accountable for its increasing and indisriminate attacks on israeli civilians and the international community must hold hamas accountable for using palestinian civilians as human shields deliberately putting them in harm's way, deliberately keeping them in harm's way. mr. secretary, we have made every effort and will continue to make every effort to avoy civilian casualties. we are targeting hamas terrorist targets. we have just shown you these targets, embedded in civilian areas embedded in mosques, embedded in hospitals, embedded in cultural schools. hamas has embedded them there in order to sustain civilian casualties because they know we will have to protect our citizens, that we have to act against their target did so they are committeeing a double war crime targeting our civilians and hiding behind their civilians and they want -- i
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repeat they want more civilian casualty where we want no civilian casualty at all. we are taking the utmost pain to mainmize it. the people of gaza -- that's been clear to the world -- are the victims of the brutal hamas regime. they are holding them hostage. they are hiding behind them mr. secretary, the international community has pressed us to gives cement to gaza to build schools, hospitals, homes, and now we see what has happened to that, to those deliveries of cement. they have been used to dig tunnels next to a kindergarten, not to build a kindergarten but to build a that you believe penetrates our territory so hamas can blow up our kippeder garden and murder our children.
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they have use for a long time our willingness to try to keep civilians at a minimum. then use them to keep on firing at us. we have even opened up a field hospital, mr. secretary, to help hamas civilians and hamas is presenting civilians of gaza -- preventing civilians from gaza from going to our hospital. i believe that you understand this. i believe that you understand that it is the right of every state to defend itself and israel will continued to do what it needs to do to defend its people. mr. secretary, this is not only our right. this is our duty. >> thank you, mr. prime minister. shalom.
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ladies and gentlemen. mr. prime minister, thank you, again, for your warm welcome. it's always a pleasure to visit for me israel. but this time, i am standing with the very heavy, heavy heart. as we speak, rockets from hamas and islamic jihad continue to be fired on israel. i have just seen, myself, with the prime minister all kinds of rockets fired by hamas on to the heads of all of its people and neighborhoods where many people are living. this is quite shocking and i have seen all of the videos and evidences, myself, the united nations position is clear: we condemn strongly the rocket
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attacks. these must stop immediately. we condemn the utes of civilian sites. civilian sites, schools, hospitals, and other civilian facilities for military purposes all countries and parties have an obligation to protect civilians i extend condolences to the prime minister and to the people of israel on the fatalities from the recent escalation. we not forget the killing and abductor of them. i was deeply moved by the words
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of rachel frankel as she buried her own son. i quote, we will learn to sing without you, she said. we will always hear your voice in our hearts. and she we want on to reach out to the family of mohammed abuakhair, the boy who was burned alive because of who he was. mrs. franken said, your mother or father should never have to go through what we are going through. and we share the pain of his parents. end of quote. it is the period of anguish, humanity and hope that calls me here. too many palestinians and israeli mothers are burying their children. we owe it to their sacrifice and
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to israelis and palestinians aspirations for peace to intensify efforts to find the solution. iver met with the leadership? qatar, cue washths egypt. i met president abbas in qatar and the u.s. secretary of state john kerry in cairo yesterday this is part of a concerted international effort for urgent action. my message to israelis and palestinians is the same: stop fighting. start talking. and take on the root causes of the country so we are not back to the same situation in another six months or a year. we must address this underlying issues including future recognition, occupation, despair and denial of dignity so people
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do not feel they have to resort to violence as a means of expressing their grief applications. military actions will not increase israelis stabilityty and security in the longer term and security in the longer term. >> i fully share and appreciate the legitimate security concern and right to defend your country and citizens. israel is a democratic strong country and i urge you to demonstrate fortitude by exercising maximum restraint. recovery and construction work is more needed than ever. issues must be addressed by one legitimate palestinian government adhering to the commitment: non-violence, recognition of israel and respect for previous agreements. the uniated nations will continue to support these
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efforts. primary netanyahu, ladies and gentlemen, i am always energized by my visit to israel and the region. even in the darkest hours, the people of this country have such a tremendous capacity for generalrasrosity and good. i understand some may feel threatened by regional developments and disenchanted with the peace process, but there is no viable alternative for two-state solution. no closure, no barrier can separate israelis and palestinians from a fundamental truth: you share a common future. you have my strongest possible commitment that i will continue to do all i can for lasting peace and security, freedom and justice for all israelis and palestinians. thank you for that.
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>> thank you, mr. secretary, i am going to say a few words in hebrew to the people of israel, but i do want to say that you spoke about the regional developments. what we are seeing here with hamas is another instance of islamist extremism, violent extremism that has no resolvable grievance. hamas is like isis. hamas is like al-qaeda. hamas is like hezbollah. hamas is like boka haram. and there are so many other of these islamist groups that defy modernity, that reject pluralism, that reject respect of human rights, that use their own people has human shields, that attack indiscriminately civilians. this is part of a larger pattern. what grievance can we solve for hamas? there are grievances that exist. they don't even want a two-state
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solution. they don't want any state solution. some of them say they should open a great movement and dissolve all of the regimes around us. therefore, in the face of such extremism and in the face of such violence and the face of such terror, israel has no option but to defend itself. this is what we are doing, as is our right. we have sought to end this from the start with the cease-fires and as i told you, they refused and they continue. we will do what we need to do to defend ourselves. [speaking hebrew] >> the israeli prime minister finishing his part of the press conference by speaking to the israel people in hebrew. earlier he was talking about the international community saying the international community must hold hamas accountable for using
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palestinian citizens as human shields and holding them hostage. he said hamas were guilty of a double war crime. he is holding a press conference, a joint press conference with ban ki-moon who, himself, started talking about hamas and condemning the rocket attacks that are fired from gaza. but he also then spoke about the palestinians being denied dignity and saying that military actions will not increase israel's security. he had said to the palestinians and israelis, you share a common future. he said there is no alternative to a two-state solution. let's see if the prime minister is now speaking in english. they may well be taking questions. no. they have made the decision not to take questions at that joint press conference in tel aviv. well, with me now in the studio is our senior political analyst, marchwan bashar. that was an interesting press conference.
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it did appear that the israeli prime minister wanted to address ban ki moon directly. they don't share exactly the same beliefs. >> it's interesting that ban ki-moon had a different tone in doha and cairo than tel aviv because he is trying to be a mediator of sorts, expressing condemnation of the atrocities being committed in gaza when he is in the arab world but when he is in tel aviv, he is expressing sympathy with the israelis and their right to defend themselves. on theusisi side, prime minister netanyahu has mastered the art of they are at tricks. he knows how to address the camera, his guests and to lecture them. he lectured president obama all too well back in 2009. but what we have here is an israeli positioning based upon two premises, two very important ones. one is that hamas basically is a terrorist organization. we cannot trust them. we cannot deal with them. we cannot negotiate with them.
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they need to be beaten, defeated. they need to be pushed down and they need to be get rid of because the way they attack civilians, the way they use their civilians to protect their arms and so on and so forth. the other argument that they use is that diplomacy is not possible with people like that. this is a regional phenomenon. it's part of an islamism that is threatening not only toitsis bi to the arab region like isis and boka haram. hamas is a danger to humanity. >> that's a message the israelis have used before. >> that's right. and somehow it's on the one hand, of course, it's not accurate. but more importantly, it just dismisses a whole number of issues. for example, that hamas was not or did not exist before 1987, that hamas, itself, is a protect of the israeli occupation. the israel occupation started in 1967 but hamas came to be in 1987.
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hamas is resisting the biggest prison cam in the world today. 1.8 million palestinians, more than two-thirds of them are refugees, been so for 60 something years, and living under siege for the last fab 9 years or so. stuck in a military offense they've apparently is hurting more of his soldiers. israel cannot afford to have it's det-terrence being undermined as it has been over the last 10 days. >> there will ab cease-fire because this is cyclical. >> exactly. >> it will end up in a cease-fire. the question is when and on what terms. >> that's true. this is the third military offensive that led to more of the same results.
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bombs hit a hospital in gaza as the death toll soars for palestinians and israelis, but now hopes for a cease-fire. also, pro-russian separatists finally release victims' bodies and the black boxes. welcome to "consider this." those stories and much more straight ahead. >> the bombs in gaza got more ferocious. >> israeli tank shells struck a hospital in gaza.
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