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equipment load it up and we've now gotten away to an area where we are safe john. >> again, watching pictures some of them live some recently on videotape of the situation in ferguson, missouri tonight. we're tracking breaking news tonight from suburban st. louis. right now police are clark with protestors. gathering -- are clashing with protesters. there are reports that protesters fired molotov cocktails with police. at police. ash-har can you see much, do you still smell tear gas? >>
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they've -- the police told us we were in a safe spot. but a short time later, the police officers went down the main street and people were running towards us and we heard the multiple bangs, flashes, bullets going off and bullets and flood lights flooding the neighbourhoods, and helicopters overhead shining a spotlight on where some of the people were dispersing too. >> all right. let's go back and start from earlier today. what was the show of force on the street when it came to the police? >> well, it was similar to what we have seen the last two nights. and as you know, things were the worst it seemed on sunday night as looting began, as people began to cause damage, light
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fires, and there was a little less of that, there was the same force, but over the day today we have seen a large number of police officers from other municipality, military-type vehicles and a lot of tactical officers around the area. from what we understand from people there in the middle of ferguson, it was largely peaceful. there were moments when things were heated. people would yell and scream. generally speaking there was no show of force or violence or any standoff nature. once it started to get dark, as we tried to get closer in, we were told we were not allowed to go further, and everyone was pushed back, including residents. traffic was allowed into the area. as the night progressed, there was a sense that things were getting more tense, and clearly as they began dispersing in the
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crowds, the show of force was stronger. >> how would you compare the protests over the last couple of nights to this one? >> i think tonight, perhaps because we were closer, we were there last night. it didn't seem this bad. we heard that tear gas was suicide, but it seemed like we heard a lot of baption, -- warnings there was warnings given to people to get out of the area. it seemed like today after the police chief made the request to have people stop protesting once it got dark, that that was something they could seriously, and they were trying to disperse the crowd as quickly as possible without having them in the area later into the night. >> we heard patricia vines, an elected official - patricia, do you describe this as a larger show of farce than you had seen the past couple of nights?
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>> this, yes, yes. it's - yes. i did see the tear gas occurring last night. but i think this was - this continues to escalate. i saw the first as well. this seems to be a whole lot more. i don't know if they are using different techniques. they used a sound, to try to irritate you. this is the first time i hseen them trying to use that. they put it on, it didn't seem to work as it did so they went to the other means. >> this started with the shooting, a police shooting of 18-year-old michael brown, an unarmed young man, shot by police. we hear today that the st. louis county prosecutor says that the police will interview or the
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prosecutor will interview a ferguson man there at the shooting, and we are told there may be a grand jury called. what else needs to happen in your opinion, patricia? >> we want to make sure that the investigation is fair and thorough. he needs to be charged. this was cold-blooded murder. this was not justified. you cannot justify shooting an unarmed 18-year-old in the head. this was cold-blooded murder. he needs to be charged as such. >> you were out there - sorry. >> the police need to look at their techniques and work on relations within the african-american community, working on police brutality. police are tired of it. that's what they are seeing. >> can you give us a sense of the size of the crowd gathered tonight. were you in the middle and could you see? >> yes, yes, yes. it was - this
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was a large gathering of a crowd. and earlier when things were good people were out playing gospel music, there was praying going on. i don't know - i'm not engaging how many people -- i'm not good at gauging how many people come out to something. i think it was well over - i don't know, maybe 300 people, maybe more than that. i don't know, i'm not good at that. it was a nice crowd. >> patricia and ashar quraishi stand by. jonathan betz is here to put it in complex. >> something that comes up is whether the city's police department is diverse. many worry that they target minorities, keep in mind the city is largely african-american. yet almost every police officer is white, and the city's police
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chief admits the force should be more diverse. >> reporter: in a st louis suburb that is over two-thirds black, the police department is overwhelmingly white, an imbalance that has many asking whether the force reflects the people served, an issue not lost on the police chief. >> i've been trying to increase the deversity of the department since i got here. >> reporter: that was four years ago. two african american police officers were promoted since then. a first for the area. all but three of the forces 53 officers are whitement the mayor told john seigenthaler from al jazeera that they have a hard time finaling african-merge recruits. >> african american officers - it's hard to get african-americans that want to be in the police force. in american police forces blacks
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are better represented on police forces. the bureau of justice says it makes up 17% of big city police departments. in small cities, where the population is under 25,000, african-americans account for 6% of law enforcement. many of the areas are less diverse, and the police admit it is a problem. >> race relations is a top priority right now. >> now, black recruits were more than twice as lightly as whites to list negative perceptions among family and friends for a reason not to join a force. it's a concern in ferguson, especially as 86% of traffic stops in ferguson are against black drivers. >> jonathan betz, thank you. joining us from washington is journalist and social activist jeff johnson. welcome. what is your reaction to what you are seeing tonight? >> i think many of us that have
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been watching for the last few days could have answered that it was going to escamate to this -- escalate to this level. we sawmill tarized levels over the city. there's a lack of productive relationship between the police department, city leadership and the citizens of that community. ju.a pose that to the -- juxtapose that to the fact you have citizens who are angry. when leadership talks to them they tell them not to be angry or allow their anger to erupt into disruptive behaviour. i think we have to consistently make sure that we are differentiating between the looting that we saw going on a few nights ago, and the unrest that we see over the last two nights. they are different. we have to delineate between the two. the frustration and antagonism
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between citizens and the police is what is causing this to happen. i was texting a few people on the ground, and literally one of the young women is trying to work with young people, said it's chaos, that there are people running towards the plegs, because they think -- police station because they think it's safer there than in the cannes field area where a lot of unrest is happening. until you get to a place where there's communication, not just between high level leaders, but the folks on the ground and the police department. we'll see this level of antagonism and unrest. >> i want to bring in david jones, he's been in law enforcement for the past two decades, is the black representative in america. welcome. what is your response to what is going on with the police tonight in ferguson?
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>> this shows that institutional policing as it refers to communities of colour is broken. it needs oversight. not just in this city, but in other cities. >> how should the police respond. we heard an elected official say there was too much show of force for the last couple of days. people with riot gear, guns on top of police vehicles. do the police department need to have the show of force to stop the shooting. >> if there's a march, and from what i have heard on the news, they were marching peacefully. why would you have army tanks and snipper rifles for people trying to march and protest an injustice. that type of force insights the community. it shows that they are not
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sensitive to the needs of the community and a death of a young man. >> you know, there were reports that the molotov contacts were thrown at police, and that that was one of the things that started this tonight. as one said earlier this evening, you know, it's the chicken and the egg. how do you know. the question is how do you calm the situation? >> i'm not sure - i'm not sure if there's a chicken. so -- >> that's right. >> we have not seen evidence that molotov cocktails were thrown, we see evidence of tear gas, of smoke bombs. i think we have to be careful now with some of the reports coming out from the ground, making sure we can corroborate them before us in the media, particularly, begin to spread them as fact. i have heard today a police chief that is now saying that a police officer - that they still have not given the identity, and he's talking about he sustained
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injuries during the interaction when that has not been said the first three days of the conflict. so to get back to your question of how do we begin to calm this. number one, you have to show the community a level of trust and transparency. the only way you do that is by number one, making known who the police officer is. we can do that without putting them in harm's way. we have the ability to put him in protective custody and move him out of the city. if you want him to be in custody and are arresting him for murder or for some other crime, you have the ability to do that and keep him safe. the longer you deny the family and the community of who committed the murder, the more you'll have unrest. >> let me push back on that. does that justify looting,
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pushing down buildings. >> again we have to delineate. i don't think looting is right under any circumstance. when you have a show of force that this police department has had in ferguson, and i think the level of antagonism. i heard reports on the ground of antagonism from the police. as the other guest mentioned - when you have tanks, when you have full armor riot gear, when you have a third night in a row of tear gas, you are heightening the level of frustration of an already frustrated group of individuals, that at this point believe that if they don't begin to riot, they won't get justice. if i can, we saw, with the trayvon martin situation, there was no arrest, violence, looting, no rioting. for many people they believed
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there was no justice. for now you have an overly sensitive african american community saying "we tried to do it the right way." we waited on due process. we waited on investigations, we waited on the court. we marched peacefully, e did not have disruptions. we were peaceful and still didn't get justice. you have young people in the city of ferguson that are frustrated beyond what any of us imagine, because it's not just about the shooting of michael brown, it's an ongoing failure to have productive communication between a department that's supposed to protect and serve and a community that deserves to be served. >> we talked to the mayor of ferguson, asking about the fact that he says 10" african-american police officers, and they have done a good job recruiting but they
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can't get enough african-americans on the police force. what do you say to that? >> that's on excuse used throughout the united states. how do you get young people to want to be part of an institution, that when they grow up they have negative interactions. even black law enforcement when they are shot at and killed in plain clothes or off duty, young kids don't have a chance. a lot of young kids don't want to be a part. our organization, we go out to the community. we have trial tests and show them this is a good job. because of their experiences and what they see on tv and experience, they don't want to be a part of the institution. in some cities, you hardly see a black cop on the street.
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>> let me go to ashar quraishi on the ground. what are you seeing now? have things calmed down? >> we are away from the area. we had to pack up and we are nowhere near the area. we took a side route off the road. we can't see much. police have pushed everyone back, that's what we understood the plan to be up until we were taken out by the swat vehicle. we can actually not see what is happening. >> can you explain to the audience that might have just tuned in, why you left? >> we were literally standing to do a live hit for the international channel. we had lights and camera. a police vehicle was blocking the road, going out from the location where we were standing. we had multiple conversations with the police officers about how long they'd be there, and whether or not it was safe for us to be there. we understood it to be safe, because we were more than a mile or so away from where the demonstrations were taking
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place, which is why we chose the location - we couldn't get closer. just before we were about to go live people ran out of the neighbourhood, surrounding our area, coming from that location in ferguson, and as they started to do that, we heard flash-bang grenades getting closer. we were told by some of the people that they were shot at with what appeared to be rubber bullets, as they described them, and the next thing, something i assumed to be a rubber bullet shot past me, and as they turned around i could see there was an armoured police vehicle coming up the parallel streets we were about to go live from, and flooding lights in our direction. the next thing i saw was a cannister fly past my right side hitting our crew vehicle in the front bumper, and that's when the tear gas went off. so, you know, i didn't move
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quite right away. but all of a sudden i got a whiff of the tear gas and couldn't see, could barely breath. we had to run out of the smoke area, and down the street a little further. as we tried to come back and approach the equipment, they started to fire again, it seemed like. we retreated further into the neighbour hood, and the vehicle turned into the street we were standing on, and that's when we raised our hands over our heads, screamed out that we were from the media. they preached us and order -- approached us and ordered us to get out of the vehicle. they tubiook us to the crew are and we got out of the area. >> we are following the situation unfolding in ferguson missouri. we'll come back and talk about it more. it's breaking news. major developments in the u.s. operatio thousands atop a mountain top in iraq.
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now to northern iraq where pentagon officials say the once dire situation on mt sinjar is improving. humanitarian drops have been more successful. the white house was considering sending combat troops. defense secretary chuck hagel says it's less likely in baghdad a string of bombs killed nearly three dozen people, one wept -- went off in
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a shia neighbourhood. former navy seal robert dube war served in iraq and joins us from the phone from fredericksburg, virginia. good to have you on the programme. what is the take that the white house raised - sound like it will not happen - the possibility that there may be boots on the ground in iraq again? >> there are boots in small numbers, assessing the area, doing a quick survey and seeing what the status is. the news appears to be more good than bad in relation to the conditions on the mountain. it's something to be grateful more. they are not in dire need. some professed to be in starving or danger. if they were stable and can be kept safe there, it's best to do that, because of the disruption. we had helicopters going down by
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overweight from individuals clam boring aboard to say their lives. if it can be secured in space, that's a better thing. if it slows around and let's us deal with that in combat operations and prevention. >> you said combat operation. of course, the u.s. has been heard to say combat forces will not necessarily be involved. how do you stop the so-called islamic state from moving forward. if you - if there's not a dire situation on mt sinjar? >> well, let me be specific about combat. i don't mean american troops, i mean we, the - all the interested parties pushing i.s.i.s. back, preventing them going further, disrupting them enough to pull them apart. it's a complex issue. maliki, in his struggle now,
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holding on to power possibly is one more disruption that has been part of the reason for i.s.i.s. being in a position of power now. the sunnis were resentful being abused or negotiated by the shia, as the reverse happened. the solution to i.s.i.s. is not exclusive combat power. it's not about fighting and creating other consequences when there are, you know, shrapnel - the collateral damage in society is a big part of what was talked about - we are creating more than we are killing. the solution lies in cooperation, getting others to realise the threat to the region, and others like ourselves cooperating and giving assistance making sure politically we don't go too far afield. the reality is it's called by
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having the fracture in society, and it begins with that, and the immediate response, and combat power to push back the guys that are calm. >> all right, robert dube i say, thank you very much. a ceasefire between israel and gaza has been extended for five days, diplomat in cairo are working on a long-term truce. nick schifrin reports. >> israel and hamas, before the war, had an understanding that if one fired into empty fields, the other would return fire into empty fields. that's what we saw tonight in the hours as the ceasefire was announced. according to the military eight rockets fired from gaza into israel, and israel responded with three or four air strikes according to residents in gaza. every target was an empty field. that is a sign as to why the ceasefire can continue, despite the violence upticking as the
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ceasefire was announced. the negotiations will continue, and were continuing as this violence continued. the two sides are far apart. one israeli official telling me they are light years apart, and that's what the two sides want. what does israel want? to demilitarize gaza. no rockets or tunnels. hamas is unlikely to agree to that. hamas wants a lifting of the siege. borders open. instead, what will the netters focus on? a compromise. what both sides could agree on, easing the seem, ending the siege. opening the boarder between rafah and egypt. more goods coming from israel into gaza, extending the fishing area from about three miles from the gaza shore to six miles. the idea is both sides can go back to the public saying that
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was not for naught, we gained from the 30 days of war, gaining concrete examples from the negotiations. it will not be easy, three things - we have never heard such optimism that we heard, and never had a ceasefire this long, and the fact that the two sides are talking despite marathon negotiations, some of the sessions are 10-12 hours, proof that both sides want to strike a deal. >> that's nick schifrin reporting. we are getting back to the top story and breaking news. racial tension in ferguson missouri, and the racial mix in the police force. we'll have that when we come back, don't go away. when you run a business, you can't settle for slow.
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scenes in the streets of suburban st louis, angry crashes are unfolding for a fourth consecutive night as protests continue against the police shooting death of an unarmed black teen. protesters threw molotov cocktails at police, police used tear gas and smoke cannisters to disperse the crowd. ashar quraishi is on the crowd and damon jones is in the studio, the new york representative of blacks in law enforcement in america. jeff johnson is in washington d.c., a journalist and social activist. and patricia vines is a democratic committee woman from ferguson. ashar quraishi, how did this unhold. >> we were based at the mobile command center, a few miles from ferguson, where a lot of protests took place. as we moved to the areas where the protests took place, there
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were a series of blockades. most of ferguson appears to be cordoned off. today we were able to get further in, until we were told to go on foot. that was as far as we could get. we stayed about a mile away from the activity, from the large contingency of police in riot gear. after that, an hour and a half ago we heard the sounds of flash grenades, we saw residents and protesters running into our direction, which is a mile down from where they were protesting and tear gas was fired in our direction. we also saw what appeared to be a rubber bullet go past us and the police continued to push people away from the area. again, this seems to be, appears to be an escalation from what we have seen, in a response to something that may have been triggered on the ground as the protests approached nightfall, which is something that the
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police chief of ferguson asked protesters not to do and may have contributed to the dispersion of the people before it got to the end of the night, as it has gotten. >> thank you. let me bring in patricia bins on the perfectly with me. you have been good enough to slap what you saw in -- explain what you saw in the middle of the crowd. we heard ashar quraishi says police didn't want people to protest tonight, but they wanted them to do it in daylight. was there a way to avoid that? >> no, you can't tell people when to protest. they are angry. i understand why police would not want people to protest at night - security, visibility issues. this is a volatile situation. i've been out every single night and second by second you do not know what would happen. i understand they would prefer it not happen. police want to show they are committed to the issue day and night and will not be told to go
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in their houses and sit down. >> what happens next? what happens tomorrow when there is daylight. how do community leaders handle this? >> there's a lot more charge groups coming out. tonight was the first night i saw pastors come out and not have their own prayer rally, but come out to where the protesters are doing everything and have prayer. some have a truck and play gospel music. instead of them having their own thing, they came out to where the people are, and if other elected officials want to get involved, that's what they need to do. that's what they need to do. people who are protesting, they are going to protest, we will not stop them. if you want to help them or be available to bring down the tension, you need to come to where they are. >> jeff johnson, you are in washington. i saw you reacting to that.
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do you want to get in on this? >> yes. number one, i think that for the police to tell protesters when they want them to protest is ridiculous. number two, as long as the protesters weren't initially breaking the law then the level of force that the police are showing towards them doesn't match what those citizens are doing. as long as the citizens are within their right, within public spaces, are not infringing on private property, there's no form at curfew, there has been no marshall law set, the folks are not breaking the law. that is part of the problem. you asked what can we do next. there's an opportunity, and the committee woman is talking about it a little bit. there are young people who i think now more than ever are willing to be part of a proactive process, to change what is happening not just in ferguson.
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but the broader st. louis area. i think churches start need to open the doors to do training, that we need to get the young people and take the energy and anger and focus it, and showing them how to organise. and there's an opportunity of how to start fusing the together. the committee woman mentioned the pastors coming out of the churches. for the last few nights there has been event happening at the same time. as opposed to bringing the community together, talking about what are the asks going to be, are we asks the police to make an arrest, are we saying we want to reform police engagement laws. what are the things that the community wants to come out of this so we are not talking about a moment, but a movement that can create reform so that not only will ferguson be better,
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but communities over the country wan begin a model of how to go from tragedy to triumph, not just reacting to a shooting. >> i want to be clear on the reporting, from associated press, that says that people lobbing molotov cocktails at police, and police responding with smoke bombs and tear gas to disperse the crowd. damon, i want to bring you on this - shouldn't there be a curfew, given the reaction for the last two or three days, wouldn't police departments normally call for a curfew when there's this ram, outrage? >> no. why would you... >> i have seen it in communities over the country. >> you have seen outrage and people using protests, using marches to show their outrage. when you say "well, you can't come out at night", and when you were marching or showing
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outrage, why would you put a curfew on it. >> because some of the violence occurred at night. >> the violence is actually a reaction to the military force that is shown. that we don't want you to do that. when the chief says we don't want you to come out at night - that shows that they are trying to curb the outrage and curb the sensitivity that the people have for this young man. so that's going to cause a reaction. and that's going to cause the unlawful element to come out and mess things up. what the chief and the city should have did was allow the people to march, get the steam off, have communication, look at what has to be done. for a show. military force, only thing you are proving to the people that
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really don't like police is that everything they thought about is correct. because instead of protecting and serving, they are controlling. >> patricia, are you still on the line? >> yes, i am. >> would it help if there was a cooling off period to calm the anger and have dialogue. >> as you can tell, i'm on the scene. i don't know how you tell people not to protest, and you want to evoke commercials. mike brown was shot at 11:30 or noon. violence goes on in broad daylight. a curfew will not stop it, you won't tell people not to come out during a certain time of day. i don't know what the cooling off period. i don't know how that works.
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maybe tonight's escalation will make a few people not want to come out. i'll see that tomorrow. >> you've had some concrete things to say about what you think needs to be done. but, there seems to be growing tension in the community, and i guess as we look at this, are there ways to cool things off. does the steam have to rise. >> i think the issue is not cooling off, but focussing. the moment we tell the people to cool down, all it does is escalate emotions. it's saying in some way, shape or form the emotion is validated. we need to focus the anger, frustration and energy. there are young people in the communities who have never been validated as leaders, who you
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have the ability to turn them into leaders. >> how do you do that? >> they have ideas. >> in a non-violent way, how do you do that? >> you open up the doors to the churches, you invite the young people open to coming in, to come in to be trained. you listen to them first, to find out what their frustrations are, you let them yell and kusz and shout and get boisterous. you let them say all the things they are dealing with. >> didn't that happen last night with the mayor? kucuss i'm not talking about th mayor. if the mayor was listening to the concerns, there would have been proactive work on the front end. at this point it's about how to validate the young angry voice, validate the anger and create a
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shift, saying how do we validate that. it's not just about the case of mike brown, and whoever of the police officer is. it's about the ongoing best interests of ferguson and the broader st louis community. >> we have seen a number of situations, trayvon martin and others. how does this play into all the other incidents that outraged african-americans throughout the country? >> it plays along that a black person or male's life is not valued. when the universal sign for surrender is putting your hands up. how many young black kids are killed for the universal sign of putting their hands up. this will - until eric holder or
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our president looks at the institution of policing and policies and proceedings, the culture of policing will continue to kill black men. >> damon, jeff, patricia, thank you. we'll continue to cover the story. we have more from ferguson in a moment. also - waging cyber warfare, edward snowden reveals n.s.a. plans to fight a possible attack. all that and more in a moment.
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is that monster mine is designed to scour the internet hunting for cyber attacks, and counterattacking all this without a human being pulling the trigger. so what this programme does, monster mine, it's a massive data collection, designed to look for signs of a cyber attack. let's get back to the package >> reporter: for edward snowden, discovering that a top scrat project -- secret project called monster mine was in the works was the last straw. once he learnt about it, edward snowden says, in "wired", he decided it was time to go public and tell the world what he knew about the national security agency's security programme. he said it's designed to be a programme of power. housed at the in the sa's
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data -- n.s.a.'s data center, it would be the ultimate cyber cop, constantly on the look out for the beginning of a foreign cyber attack on united states computers, capable of deciding on its own when and how to strike back. attacks are routed through computers in incident countries, that's a problem, edward snowden said. security analysts agree. >> the costs and risks come in all forms. it may be that we respond and attack the wrong person or country, and that causes an international event. >> then there are the constitutional concerns. for monster mine to spot the attacks. it would have to analysed all the traffic on the internet. edward snowden says: >> finally there's a question of
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whether it's a good idea to leave the decision to wage a form of law up to a machine. >> i am sure that we are going to get arguments, and probably good arguments from the intelligence community saying that all this happens at lightening speeds and unless you retaliate your opportunity may pass. that may be true, but has to be weighed against benefits. >> edward snowden tells wired that he is worried about n.s.a.'s fatigue, that american will be complacent about government surveillance. edward snowden was last week granted a 3-year residence. he was willing to return to the u.s., as long as it serves the right purpose, whatever that may be. >> a fugitive on the run for 14 years in custody, the fbi
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says it's a result of facial recognition technology. jacob ward reports. >> reporter: the federal bureau of investigation caught up with neil stamer, arrested on multiple state charges, including child sex abuse. in another era the fbi would never have caught the guys, he's good with people and experienced at travelling abroad, multilipping wall. a diplomatic service agent was playing around with fbi software, running it on wanted posters, and there is stamer in a passport photo under the name of kevin hodges, living in nepal under a visa that he updated at
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the embassy. he'd been in for years. by july he is was in kust in the united states. it's because the fbi has a new system, a next generation identification system, a billion dollar expansion of an existing fingerprint dat the database. it allows finger frints, irises, frints, tattoos and faces. they can recognise from any source. think about to this way. the u.s. is not as well documented as the uk, which has a c c.t.v. camera for every 14 citizens. in the new york system, there's 3,700 security cameras, many wired to the n.y.p.d. it requires, you know, a clear look at someone in the flat light without a hat to get a match with the database. the photos and images should only come from law enforcement
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intake. 31 states have started using a form of australian recognition. if the fbi decides to pour facebook into the mix, any of us could be in the system. in the case of neil stamer, it brought someone to justice. you and i probably will wind up in this system. in the wrong place, under the wrong camera, nest to the wrong person -- next to the wrong person we may be swept up. >> more to tell you about from ferguson, our reporters are on the ground. we'll be back after a quick
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michael brown shot multiple times on saturday by police. hundred marched demanding answers. the unrest began, including cluting, appropriate damage and riots. monday the fbi opened a parallel investigation, followed by more violent clashes, more than a dozen arrested. tuesday, police said they would not release the name of the officer, citing death threats. today more demands for answers followed by what we have seen tonight. sebastian walker is a correspondent for ""defaultline" is in on the front lines, what have you seen? >> this is chaos on the streets. we are stuck between the police lines and protests as things started to get tense. the tear gas fired - the level of it i have rarely seen that
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response. it seemed to be heavy-handed. the police used flash-bong grenades -- flash-bang grenades. we were stuck between the police and the protesters. we were there for maybe 2-3 hours when the level of intensity. we saw the whole thing. we were this in what was a relatively peace of protest. armoured personnel arrived. there were officers armed with tear gas, high powered rifles trained on the crowd. it was a surprising response, unlike anything i have seen. i have covered these protests and the occupied wall street. the community was outraged at the scenes. the middle of ferguson was
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turned into what looked like a war zone. we were literally caught in the middle between police and protesters. >> are things calmer now? >> the crowds are dispersed. the police were literally firing tear gas cannisters down the side streets into the community everywhere ran for cover and they cleared the street, it's blockated. everyone ran -- blockaded. everyone ran for cover. we were caught in the middle. the police were trying to get everyone out on the streets. it was a very intense scope. we saw people hit by tear gas. we were hit badly. firinger bullets. the hand grenades that they were using where explosions. it was very scary scene.
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it's something that - we were taken by surprise. we heard that things had calmed down, and there wasn't much anticipation that this would be a lively note. the small protest was met by an overwhelming response and it added fuel to the fire. the situation now seems tense. we'll stay out during the evening, following event on the ground. it's a precarious situation. >> thank you very much. i want to go to ashar quraishi, who is this ferguson tonight. and you have had a frightening night as well, ashar quraishi. tell us what you saw? we were about a mile down the road. the attack was in context, i was told what could happen with seb aft yep. we could see, but didn't have a sense of what was happening without getting closer.
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we were in a residential area, halfway down in a neighbourhood when the lights came towards us and people were running out of the area where sebastien was, towards where we were, in a residential area. we had lights on, the camera trained in the direction of the main strip where the police were pushing the crowds away from the center of where the... >> ashar quraishi, let me stop you. we are showing video of you getting tear gassed. and running away from the scene. can you describe - can you describe that? >> yes. what you are saying is i'm standing in front of my camera where the bullet flew past me, i turned around and a gas cannister, a tear gas cannister flew past and strikes the vehicle which you see to my right, the crew vehicle.
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it hit the vehicle, as it comes up i try to unplug, and you see me reacting to the tear gas hitting me in the face. i motioned to the cameraman and the producer to run in the op site direction away from the tear gas cannisters and the direction of the fire - the bullets and the cannisters much we ran halfway down the block at this point. as we tried to reproach, there were residents surrounded in the same area around us trying to go back to the area where we were, where the camera is set up. as we get closer, we see a helicopter shining a spotlight from above on our location. we get the sense if we approached the equipment again, we'll be fired on once again. finally we raised our hands as that military vehicle as the
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military vehicle getting down. so we could get our quit and get out -- equipment and get out. ashar quraishi and sebastien walker thanks for your reporting. we'll have more on the story on al jazeera america tomorrow morning. "america tonight" with julie chen is coming up next. i'm john seigenthaler. see you tomorrow night.
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