and those that are left there are in better condition. they're not starving, not going to die of thirst the president said in large part because of what they've been given by the drops del. >> the president didn't say the air strikes would stop, that they would continue, but that he had a conversation with the new prime minister of iraq, the prime minister designate, haider al-abadi, and that political will in iraq. >> the prime minister says it wants to reform over the next couple of weeks to take leadership and that's in part to give leaders of iraq the signal that they need to be activating and working. we're not going in it's not our big problem that we're taking on so it was interesting to hear him talk about the conversation he had with the prime minister designate. there are a few weeks left where the pm designate will form his

new team get the parliament going. there is a real question of how smoothly that will happen so all eyes are on baghdad to watch that happen. president obama emphasizing that iraq needs to take that role on its own del. >> we are seeing the formation of that new coalition of the willing, who are they and what are they prepared to do? >> you mean externally? ♪ to the military situation, france and great britain talking about helping to send supplies and munitions or arms to the kurdish fighters the peshmerga, germany sending nonlethal aid to those kurdish fighters, to get them supplied with the weapons or tools they need to fight back i.s.i.l. or islamic state.

>> libby casey, thank you very much. at least for now the military mission on mt. sinjar appears to be scaled down considerably in those f force he that thought to be needed will not be needed now. the president announcing 114,000 meals and 45,000 gallons of water have been delivered to the refugees who have been making their way to safety at night. he also addressed the situation in ferguson, missouri, where diane eastabrook is right now. the fbi and the justice department are launching an independent investigation into the death of michael brown. is this being interpreted, i guess, as a slap in the face to the police department there? >> well del, it may be. and i will tell you just a couple of minutes ago we talked to missouri senator on the ground here. she's asking for a

demilitarization here, asking for police to be pulled back, she doesn't want them on the streets. hashe is asking that that happe, and the governor has not said that he's going to do that just yet. he's going to do a press conference in another hour or so, he may make mention of that then. so you can interpret it either way but yes, the feds have been coming in, they were brought in monday or tuesday to do a civil rights investigation. now you've got the department of justice involved, the department of justice was supposed to meet with the ferguson police department this afternoon and with michael brown's parents, so we may get more information as the day progresses. >> and claire mccaskell being a form he prosecutor on the other side of the state so she's familiar with how things should go and how they should not go. but also there is the issue of these protests that are taking place at night. as we have been reporting, a

fourth straight night of violence, some of our crews finding themselves caught in the cross fire of tear gas canisters going back and forth. what can you tell us about that? >> all i can say is we've seen these protests during the day. yesterday police department ask that these protests don't go on after dark, after 6:00. but they're protesting and the situation seems to turn violent after hours. so there has not been a curfew imposed at this point but still, we see peaceful protests during the day and tensions seem to escalate as the evening wears on. >> and i wanted to get to an issue, one of the things that we were going to talk about before the president comes on, a dual message, one that the community is fed up with the protests, not

the protests but follow up to the protests, the third issue that there may be outside agitation. is that the case in ferguson as well? >> we heard about the outside agitation early-on so i don't know if that's still an issue. what we do here and i've been out in the streets talking to people in the neighborhoods. and there's a lot of frustration with the rioting going on. they say this is giving us a black eye, this is thought the way to solve this problem. but they want to be able to go out and protest peacefully. they want to be able to march in the streets as they've done, as they did sunday night, as they've done the last few nights. they think though at a they're being unfairly targeted by the police departments that are out patrolling during those hours. and there's confront -- confrontation that's happening in the evenings when this is happening. you do hear both things. they're tired of the violence,

they don't like the rioting but on the other hand they say they have the right to go out and assemble and peaflfully protest. the president -- -- peacefully protest. >> diane eastabrook, thanks for being with us. we want to go online with david katz, a security analyst who trains on arrest tactics. mr. katz thank you for being with us. first of all what you're uh seeing take plagues in ferguson is the way law enforcement is supposed to do things or the wrong way? >> can you be a little bit more specific? are you referring to the initial incident or the response? >> the violen the violence firsf all, tear ghast, fired into protesters that describe themselves as peaceful but

molotov cocktails. >> you mentioned there was outside agitation. always from law enforcement perspective i can tell you this, everyone has the right to peacefully assemble to protest and make their feelings heard. what these agitators do, they get into the crowd and turn the peaceful protest into a confrontation. claire mccaskell doesn't know what she's talking about. wholwholesale burning and prote, arrest them and allow the remaining folks in the crowd who just want to protest peacefully odo so and then you won't have this violence. but right now this escalation is largely coming from people who are not from the neighborhood. >> so do you not believe that the police have any role in this escalation of violence at all? >> well, if someone throws a molotov cocktail at you if

someone is looting a store -- >> let me say first of all what we know to the factual right now is -- to be factual right now is there's tear gas canisters being set off, there is one molotov cocktail that has been thrown. diane eastabrook has claire mccaskell. i want to ask you this question, our guest says that the senator who i know well does not know what she's talking about. >> you said earlier that you want to see a demilitarization, and we had a guest on earlier that the senatorial doesn't know what she's talking about. how do you respond to that? >> i know what i have observed and i know what i have heard listening to people. and i think that certainly i'm a former prosecutor. i respect law enforcement and they have a solemn duty to keep

everyone safe and to keep order. but the sum of the visuals have been excessive. i think some of the confrontation he have been escalated, deescalated. at some point in time an aggressive police presence become the problem not the solution. and i think that's what we had last night. i think it escalated the situation. it didn't deescalate the situation. so it is my understanding that they are looking at different options, for today and tonight, and hopefully, we won't see that kind of military presence that i think is disrespectful to people who are peacefully demonstrating. >> reporter: do you want to see st. louis county police pulled off of this? >> the issue is not who's on it. the issue is what is the job that's being done. so frankly, i have no authority in that space, so my opinion is just my opinion. but what i can do is advocate for the demilitarization, i have

done that every way i know how and i'm optimistic we'll be seeing that tonight. >> you talked to attorney general eric holder. >> just got off the phone with him. we talked about some of the issues with respect to civil rights, we've got to work on diversity in the police departments. we've got to work on the militarization of the police force, when if ever is it necessary and those are the things we are talking about. >> do you think the police should be releasing the name of the officer involved in the shooting on saturday? >> i feel very strongly all the areas of the investigation should not be released until it is complete. there will be plenty of independent judgments in the investigation and at the end of the investigation, done independently and thoroughly there will be a full airing of the facts in this case and the evidence. to do it in dribs and drabs is

not helpful in the case. i urge people to have patience about getting information about the investigation until it is complete. >> and you're a prosecutor. one of the complaints we're hearing is that there's not been any transparency, do you think there's been a lack of transparency? >> you know as a prosecutor your job is to find the facts and seek justice. and i understand that there is a tension there. i felt it many times as a prosecutor. when i knew that the plu that td certain information that would hamper not enhance our abilities, i get that all these prosecutors, federal prosecutors, state, all they're trying to did is get all of the facts get all of the fren sis evidence and take -- forensic evidence and take the case where the facts lead them. >> from what you've seen the people that have been protesting do they do it peacefully and have the right to be out on the

street? >> the first day i'm talking to them. i certainly have seen nothing but peaceful protests today. >> diane before you let her go? if you can get her back for just a second. >> senator mccaskell one more question go ahead. >> i would like to know in talk with the justice department and airveg eric holder, has she been given any reason why the journalists were arrested. >> the anchor would like to know have you been given any indication why the journalists were arrested, from talking to eric holder and to the president? >> well, i don't think that the president or eric holder probably are as knowledgeable about the facts on the ground surrounding that. i think there was a request that they leave mcdonald's, they didn't leave as quickly as the police officers wanted them to, and i think that there was not perfect judgment on both sides but i do think that obviously i

think the police realized pretty quickly that they had probably gone over the line. >> diane eastabrook thank you very much and thank the senator for coming back. i think we still have on the line david katz the former federal agent. you heard the senator respond to your criticism that she didn't know what she was talking about. your response to her response. >> first of all the senator was out there during the day, things degenerate very, very quickly during the evening hours. you have to be careful whether you analyze what i'm saying. it is very common for these types of protests for the agitators to deliberate lir escalate and the violence of the police department -- >> knowing that shouldn't law enforcement be prepared not to escalate to the extent it got at ferguson? >> first of all in new york city, new york city police departments is absolutely top at dealing with violent protests.

and the tactic that's always worked is, when the crowd is starting to form, you can spot, you have people in the crowd, you have undercovers in the crowd you understand who the agitators are and who the people are who are directl directly sng violence. that's the tactic. that's what's happening. you have thousands of people who have every single right to be out there protesting. by the way, we don't know what happened with respect to the shooting but you have a feeling, you have a grievance, you get to air it in this country. what you don't get to do is have this protest marred by people deliberately causing trouble, in crown heights, occupy wall street, every single time. some of the locals but kno -- fr

the most part. this is deliberate agitation. >> mr. katz thank you very much. law enforcement how to arrest people and how to not arrest people. again the break news this hour the president announcing just a short while ago that both the fbi and the justice department will be conducting not only an investigation into the death of 18-year-old michael brown who died on saturday but also the four nights of violence that have followed and the conduct of the ferguson police department whether it was good or whether it was bad. we will have continuing coverage in the situation in ferguson throughout the day. we invite you to join joie chen for a special "america tonight," 9 p.m. earn, 6:00 p.m. pacific, easy for me to say. we'll be right back.

>> hello, i'm del walters in new york. we continue to follow the events unfolding in ferguson, missouri.

tom jackson addressing reporters. let's listen. >> giving the sidewalks up in the area to protests -- protesters, we'll put up cones, put up porta potties for them to use and allow them to freely protest for as long as they want. what's happening now is, is not what any of us want. last night, we started ge getting -- started getting rocks, bricks, bottles thrown at us then a molotov cocktail then a bomb went off. we all need people to calm down and bring some peace to this. we want people to be able to protest, we want to facilitate their ability to protest because it's a constitutional right. so working with these leaders we're going otry to put this together and hopefully everyone will take the opportunity to get

the message out that they want to get out. we understand everybody's age are aneverybody's angerand theio we're hoping for that ability. >> police approach has been blindly criticized for being much like a military unit and i'd like your reaction to that. >> i thawns, th -- understand t, there is gun fire, fire bombs thrown at police. i understand what it looks like is not good. the whole situation is not good at this point and that's why there's several meetings going on right now to evaluate tactics. how we approach this. we would like the protesters to stop the violence, we certainly don't want to have any violence

on our part. we want this to be peaceful. it is going to be a long process so we need to have everybody tone it down. >> the problem last night was that the police moved forward, advanced towards the protesters, cutting off the problem. >> we have a basic obligation to allow people to get to their homes and businesses and to drive up and down the roadways. we can only have a part of town be closed down for so long before we have to open it back up. we're trying to do that without physically hurting anybody. and so that's why we're using these less-leadal -- lethal tactics. >> are you satisfied with the handling of the protesters? >> what i'm satisfied with is we haven't hurt anybody. nobody's gotten injured or killed. a couple of police officers, one officer did get hit with a brick

and actually broke his ankle and another officer was injured. but in general i mean, with the chaos that's going on right now, i am at least happy that snob's gotten seriously injured. >> the situation the volatility increasing what's your take on how volatile this is now and the potential for things to get worse before they get better? >> it's a powder keg and we all recognize that. and that's why we are going to try facilitate the protests tonight and we hope that the protesters will recognize that we are trying to facilitate, to help everybody bring this -- bring this down. bring all the tensions down. >> people who claim that they were tear gassed -- >> are you meeting with the family today? >> i had a meeting scheduled we family at ten ono'clock this morning. -- 10:00 this morning. apparently their attorney didn't have the opportunity to

adequately talk with them, so the meeting was postponed but they promised me the meeting would be rearranged today. >> (inaudible). >> were you going to march with them yesterday? >> no my assistant was. >> chief last night alderman french -- >> it hasn't been accurate information, all we can do is counter it when we see it. bringing the website down, possibly just did it again. all we can do is react to that. [simultaneous speech] >> no, no, we're not putting up barriers or barricades. >> are you going to pull back the military style vehicles or will they be out there again? >> the tactical units will be out there if the fire bombs start getting thrown, property

is getting destroyed, shots are being fired, people being shot at, we have to respond to deadly force. >> but they were out there before that happened. >> we're going to talk about not only the tactics but the appearance. we're having conversation. [simultaneous speech] >> chief why weren't those questions asked before, like this gentleman says if the police, the military style units were out there from the very beginning and when you came out to try to control the crowds there were people who were arrested, there are people who were tear gassed who weren't shooting at the police. can you give us some insight into the mindset of the police, why they approached this crowd, the way that they did, and what was -- what goes into making the decision to actually fire the tear gas? why was it fired? why did it always seem to be fired around 9:00 at night? take us inside some of those decisions please. >> well, those decisions were made by the tactical commanders

on the ground and it was based on the threat, the threat of violence. >> who made -- >> if individuals were in a crowd that's attacking the police they need to get out of that crowd. we can't individually go in and say consume sir are you peacefully protesting, are you throwing rocks, are you throwing a molotov cocktail? it's a crowd. if the crowd is getting violent and you don't want to be violent get out of the crowd. >> (inaudible) where the tear gas showed up, the al jazeera crew? >> i haven't been briefed on that. >> i'm from al jazeera and i'd like to ask a question. >> sure yes. >> i would like to ask the question because as pointed out earlier, we were in an area last night we didn't go past the barricades, we respected that, no active protests, yet we found

ourselves as a direct target, literally shot with rubber bullets that hit our vehicle. who made the decision to do that? >> i don't know who made the decision, i will look into that. >> why is the media a target? >> the media is not a target. >> (inaudible) tear gas. >> tear gas pepper pellets pepper balls. >> state police taking over operational command dealing with these protesters, what are your thoughts? >> the state highway patrol that is been in force for all along their swat teams have been here, supportive of the situation, i certainly welcome their assistance they've been great. >> the police response and the county police have been pulled off that. >> i haven't heard that. >> specifically is the police response going to be different?

>> they're having the meeting now and i haven't heard the results of that meeting. >> (inaudible). >> that's up to the prosecuting attorney's office. he's waiting to interview, this has all been thrown out here before but i see you're new. this, all the evidence has to be examined all the ballistics have to be examined and most importantly, all the witnesses have to be talked to extensively. and when all that is done and the toxicology reports are done then mr. mccullough is going to have a very clear picture and present that to the grand jury. >> who was there yesterday? >> i don't know. >> chief we had an alderman arrested from the city of st. louis, he said he was pulled out of his car and there were other people across the street, sitting in their car just to wait to see what was going on police pulled them out of their car and arrested them.

why would that be? >> all i can say, if anybody was arrested from what i understand because they were in an area that was being cleared by police. once it was declared by the commander on the scene as an unlawful gathering because of the violence you know everything going then they have to clear it. >> (inaudible) photographs and -- >> reporters were releaseat the scene and they were upset (inaudible). >> and chief there are a few names circulating about this officer that was involved, we're hearing brian goreman darren wilson, any truth to that? >> we're going to have conversation about release of the name. i guess it's anonymous put out a name this morning, brian-something that's not the name. i haven't seen anything else. >> protesters who are just here announced another name and that name since you're giving first name was darren.

>> all right well i'm not going to comment on it right now until i -- >> darren wilson. is that true? chief what do you think about that? i mean are these guys just running name after name after name after name? >> i think that's probably what they're doing, they're taking the name of ever be and throwing it out there. >> (inaudible) reason why you are holding the identity of this officer essentially, go through a list (inaudible). >> threats of death against him and his -- or threats of death against the officer who was wrongly identified, as the shooter, and also, bob mccullough's office policy of not releasing the name until they are formally charged. we're having conversations about that today. >> chief you said you would release the name until you had to either the judge or the person was formally charged. has that changed?

>> i said we are taking this day by day so again, we're talking about it today. >> commanders that are on the ground when (inaudible) are they who are these and which so many different agencies. >> we have all the areas swat teams. are filtering through, throughout the week. >> (inaudible) charge of the operation in terms of what's happening? >> their tactical commander on the scene is the tactical commander. yes. >> what is your reaction to the eyewitness accounts of the shooting? >> i can't speak to the evidence, i can't speak to the evidence, that belongs to the county police department and to bob mccullough. let me get one from you. >> one last thing, officers look like soldiers, the word war is being used, are you surprised to the reaction of these officers, just the nature of that whole kind of a militaristic --

>> well, the whole picture is being painted a little bit sideways from what's really happening. it's not military, it's tactical operations, it's swat teams, that's who is out there doing this in blue. thank you very much. >> you're listening to tom jackson from the ferguson police department, updating from their area. fbi and justice department acknowledge began on saturday the death of 18-year-old michael brown extended to four nights of violence in ferguson. the chief there telling reporters just a moment ago that one of his officers was hit with a brick and suffered a broken ankle. that is the first we have heard of that. he also said that his tactical units were also being attacked with bricks and bottles and also perhaps one molotov cocktail although there has been no evidence to support that as well. as for the journalists t