thanks for joining us on al jazeera america. you see the situation here getting out of control. police are in full force with riot gear. we heard from ashar quraishi just a moment ago that they deployed tear gas into the crowd. trying to get the protesters back. there is a state mandated curfew in about two hours in ferguson missouri. the second night, last night we saw repeated scenes with protesters on the street.

we saw and heard helicopters in the air. police going downside streets. police going down side streets. a number of protesters, it's hard to determine the numbers of how many are out there tonight. we saw them with signs saying stop killing our people. justice for michael. for some resident in the community. coming as a surprise, if you will, after a community rally, that we saw a number of civil rights act visits, saying this is simply not the way to act as we seek justice for michael brown. an unarmed teenager shot last week by a white police officer. we are following a number of new developments. the department of justice calling for an additional autopsy on michael brown, trying to determine what happened in this investigation. it is 10:01 on the streets of fergus

ferguson missouri. it's the second might of a state mandated curfew. let's get the latest from ashar quraishi. >> they came for miles, thousands of people with different stories, united for one purpose, justice for michael brown. most of the crowd didn't make it in greater grace church. they were forced to listen on the microphone. this was one of them. her son was killed by st louis police in 2012. police say he pointed a sawn off rifle at a police officer. the family disputes it. she's here for michael brown and his family. >> it bridges back bad memories. the cases are similar. it has to stop. it has to stop. if we don't do something, it will continue to happen.

>> for those that got inside, they saw michael brown's family and heard from al sharpton. >> we saw millions of dollars roll down all kinds of military equipment, like you were at war with your citizens. if you got enough money to bring all that equipment in here you've got money for jobs for these young people. >> people here say love it the w wepen, and some opted to wear t-shirts. displaying it was a challenge. dozens parked along the interstate. with so many people, the traffic was vicious, a lot of people were backed up. we decided to pull over and show support. >> to let the word out. there was some way someone was killed. and the policeman that killed them was not in gaol. >> for a week now in ferguson,

you've been able to hear the anger, feel the outrage and see the sad innocence. sunday was no different. >> once again we are following breaking new, that's been the message in ferguson, hands up, don't shoot. there's more unrest on the streets tonight. police moving in trying to get protesters off the street before a midnight curfew. >> areva martin joins us. we want the latest on the situation, what can you tell us? >> well earlier today there were several peaceful rallies that took place, where civil right leaders urged the public to not obey the war. i'm a little surprised to see the police are having to move in and use tear gas and the mill taristic tactics that were condemned earlier in the week. >> we mentioned earlier that it

was surprising following that rally today. what does it take to get the situation under control, to ease the tensions. >> one of the things that doesn't appear to have acted in this situation is dialogue. i have not seen the protesters being able to sit down in a form to really talk to the authorities. we saw johnson coming to the situation. his presence was a calming effect on the situation. he's a member of the community. he spoke eloquently during the rally. he told the community that he stands with them. that he is going to protect the citizens. we need to move past that, to a dialogue. and between the individuals who continue to protest and the authorities. and there's high levels of distrust that exist. >> you know the community too well. this is an or that grew up. correct. >> i grew up close to the

community, i have friends and family in the community. i have been in contact with them regularly about what is going op, and quite frankly everyone was encouraged. al sharpton and other community leaders and civil rights leaders - i think everyone is surprised. the majority of people in the community are law-abiding people exercising their first amendment rights to protest. i think some of the looting, you know, some of the situations that have gotten out ofhand really are a small number of people out in the streets, and should not be, you know, generalised to the people out there to make a statement about how important it is between the disparities. >> growing up in the community, are you surprised by the interaction with police by the situation? >> not at all. not at all surprised with the

ferguson police. i was stunned to hear the chief of police from ferguson say that he was unaware - he was oblivious to the significant, you know, racial divide that exists. i can't talk to a family or friend who doesn't state emphatically that there is such distrust between african-americans, and the white police officers in that community, and the numbers bear it out disproportionately. african-americans are stopped. disproportionately following stops they are arrested and there's racial profiling. all of that is well documented. >> when speaking with family and friends are they encouraged by the investigation, by the involvement with the federal bureau of investigation, the department of justice. >> very encouraged by that, but disappointed. by how slowly information is being disseminated. in most shootings involving a

police officer, if the police believe that they were justified in firing their weapons, they come forward. they speak up very quickly about the facts surrounding the shooting. they want to get ahead of the story, in this case we waited days to hear what the name of the officer was. when it was revealed it was revealed with a disturbing video tape of what happened in the store before michael brown was stopped. the delays in coming forth and telling the community what happened is what is fuelling the frustration. >> areva martin, stand by for a moment. i want to bring back ashar quraishi on the streets of ferguson, what more can you tell us? >> it's eerily quiet in the location where much of this melee broke out and tear gas was fired. we have not heard nor tear gas

fired in the distance. back to areva's point, it was echoed throughout the evening by people here and decided to leave earlier than the curfew and they would protest and leave. concerned that there were elements within the crowd. there weren't elements interested in protesting. they were looking for trouble, and that's what we heard throughout the evening, with some of the looting we saw over friday night. be spoke to a young man, and told us this is not what we want to have portrayed on the television, it's not what we are here about. he took his mask off and said some of us are trying to protect the businesses in this area. some are trying to do the best that we can to protest in a peaceful way. there are elements in the crowds coming from outside the community who are not looking to

protest. and some of those elements are sparking the reactions reaction that we sa seen. police saying they came under attack. by some who threw molotov co cocktai cocktails. that is not what a lot are about. >> some feel the curfew just isn't necessary. a lot of people say that this curfew should be in place earlier, particularly the people in this area, in the apartments on the other side of the businesses, and have no listen and hear what is going on into the night as police move in on the protesters. a variety of opinions as to what should be done here. some said why did the curfew take so long. others say the curfew shouldn't le in place. they should be allowed to protest peace apply, or speaking out under the fear of being hit

with tear gas. walk us through the event, a time line of the events. >> sure, we arrived here around 6:00 pm. 6.30 and so. it was light out, a lot of families out. there was a lot of automobiles on the street. they then closed off the treats before we arrived so a police officer posted on one side of the strip or on the other side, the only vehicles allowed out were vehicles parked here. but no one was allowed back in. that's when we saw an uptick in foot traffic. then we sought the crowds swell for a moment. then as we moved in, as darkness fell, we went further down the road where most of the collection of people was youth we saw. the families were further this way, closer to the police unit. in the crowds we saw some nights

breaking out. we saw some unrests, some protests peacefully, and could sense it was a mixed crowd. this was a crowd of people, some were there to protest, others to watch what happened, and possibly some people say provoke the police. and then as the night wore on. just about a half hour, 40 minutes ago, we heard the shots and the cannisters fired in the distance. still some of the tear gas can be felt in the air as it drifts towards us. again, the tactical units move in. and clear the street as people ran and rushed this way. some warning others to keep moving, others ploughing past us continuing to go this way. our vehicle was off to the right of what was happening, we were in the vehicle, our photographer and producer were caught up in

this. we saw some gas masks that did not come off, trying to deal with symptoms they are experiencing, this is something that looks like it came on quickly, if escatated quickly and police tried to deal with it. >> stand by for a moment. i want to bring back areva martin, attorney and a long-time res did not of ferguson. ashar quraishi brought up is good point, the state police, highway patrol have their hands tied when dealing with a looting crowd. how do you get the situation under control? >> you have to restore trust, something that is destroyed by the evolving stories that the police chief from ferguson told on the day that michael brown was shopped. releasing the video, at the same

time of the name of officer wilson. to get the public to believe that this is a police force, that they can trust and provide transsi, i think we need to see some changes. ron johnson, again. was very positive in effect as it relates to the crowd. i think changing. i don't know why the governor said he didn't approve. release of the tape, and the government's office is not in alignment with the way that the chief is handling what is happening on the ground. changing some of the personal involved in the sayings could go a long way in causing the community to start trust again with the police force. and start to obey the curfew and other laws affected to in the non-peaceful process. >> as an attorney looking at a situation, have you seen a number of missteps along the way? >> absolutely, again, we can

point to the disclosure of the tape with the name of the officer. we can point to the changes in the story of the ferguson police chief from, you know, there was no knowledge on the part of wilson when he stopped michael brown. we noticed the story has changed. it's not been did not. and she is are blunders that have caused the community to be frustrated. i think the aggressive nature of the response. people were exercising their first amendment rights, they were peacefully protesting and there was a heavy military presence that also caused some of the agitation and frustration, and people believing they were trying to be silent, and rather than be heard, there was effort on the

part of the police department to silence them. i think the governor needs to do more, we'd like to see the officials step up. i think the chief is a lightening rod, a source of a lot of frustration, and i think his removal from the situation would go a long way in causing there to be calm again in that community. >> i know some feel this way, that a midnight curfew is a way to silence the citizens of ferguson. >> i don't think the curfew was appropriate the the businesses have every right to rely upon and expect the police to protect them. the law-abiding citizens have every right. i don't think so at this point in time that a curfew was the right way to go. i think the police can protect the businesses. and without implementing a curfew.

the curfew sends another negative message that the community doesn't have a right to weigh in on the situation. at this point michael brown's case is more about race relations than it is the legal issues that would be played out once the matter gets to a grand jury and gets to trial. at this point we are dealing with the significant divide in the ferguson community between the white police department, the people in power, and a community that is 65, 57% african american, yet from a power stand point that disenfranchised. you need people on the ground, professionals. trained professionals that know how to deal with the sensitive situation. i can't imagine whether the police force deal with a situation of this magnitude. we need professionals with the

training and expertise to deal with this situation. >> areva martin and ashar quraishi stand by. we are following the unrest in ferguson missouri. we'll take a quick break and continue after

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look like a militarization of the urban area, creating an intimidating atmosphere for people to protest in. some blazed it for the unrest earlier in the week. we saw a change in the operational strategy as the highway patrol took over. it was short lived. we saw one night of peaceful protesting that did not end with tear gas or rubber bullets, but late last night we were out here when some of the protests became a little unruly, violence, and looting occurred in this area. and as a result of that state of emergency, being announced and a curfew put into place from midnight to 5am, this is the second night that that curfew was to be put in place. hours before the curfew, the unrest began aftera saw an eruption after molotov cocktails

were tossed at them. not that close to where much of the protests have been taking place. we saw large crowds here earlier in the seasoning, and there was a sense of tension as we drew close to this. people hoping that this was not how the night would end. certainly there was no expectation that this would happen so early in the evening. >> i want to go back to areva martin. we are getting another new development in the michael brown case here. the "new york times" is reporting the result of an independent autopsy requested by the brown family. they have been released. we understand the teen was reportedly shot by police at least six times, two in the head. the times says the outop si was conducted by -- autopsy by the former chief examiner michael baden. what do you make of the new information? >> i think it confirms some of the reports heard earlier, which

is that michael was shot multiple times, we had confirmation that he was shot once inside the police vehicle, but there were multiple shots fired after he excited the vehicle and had his hands up, and his body was found 35 feet. i think the police - this medical examiner confirmed that the police officer. if the issue comes down to whether the police officer reasonably believed that his life was in danger or harm. and that is what is respected each and every one of those shoots. even if he felt that he was in imminent harm when he and michael were involved in an altercation question the car, and one shot inside the vehicle was justified, the other five shots outside of the vehicle had

to be explained, and if that officer cannot demonstrate that he reasonably believed that he was in fear, it was going to be hard to do if the witnesses statements hold up that michael's hands were in the air surrendering. not only may that gave rise to murder charges under state law, but violations of michael's civil rights under federal law. >> ashar quraishi on the streets of ferguson, are you hearing additional details regarding the "new york times" report? >> we are not. it is quiet out here where we are. all that is remaining is police officers and members of the media who have stayed in the area. we cannot go any further down the line. i don't know if you can see behind me, there's a police line. we heard before we went back on air a number of stun grenades in the distance.

it appears that we are dealing with unknown number of protestors beyond the line, and the police vehicles are continuing in that way. i imagine the news will permeate through the area and the city of ferguson, and we'll hear more about residents. >> we saw video and live moments, what do you make of militarization of the police force. it's the worst way to handle the situation. the police chief for seattle weighed in on the situation as well as other chiefs from around the country. in handling protests of this nature, where individuals were exercising a first amendment right. bringing in heavy armoured vehicle. police officers dressed in military fatigue, high-powered weapons - all that does is to escalate rather than deeskaleate

the situation, and that police officers become emboldened as if they are in a war zone, rather than serving in the role of, you know officers who are there to protect and serve. so it creates a divide in the community, and rather than bring residents and police officers together, it creates a gulf, and a cas which we saw play itself out in the streets of ferguson. ron brown, ncially, when brought into the case and given the responsibility of policing the community said that we would see the removal of the heavy military presence, but apparently that decision, you know, has been made differently, and we are seeing the same presence of the heavy military trucks and tire and guns and the use of a tear gas. the community is not responding to it positively. it's not as if this is working. they keep bringing it in.

it's not working. >> to echo the words. is this in a sense provoking community rehabilitation, militarization of the police force and their tactics. >> absolutely. that is something that we have heard from a lot of residents. going back to a point that was made earlier that superintendent ron johnson said as he talked about the curfew and talking about the tactics used during the curfew, that they would not use rubber bullets or tear gas cannes stares. iest -- cannisters. yesterday in the mobile command center we saw police in that area trying on the gas marks, making sure the equipment worked. the sentiment and sense was while saying they wouldn't be using the cannisters and tear gas on the crowds, they prepared for the possibility that that would be the case. again, that is what we saw tonight.

>> we talked extensively about a midnight curfew. what are the consequences if you are caught past midnight on the streets of ferguson. we were held in a pen, basically. we wouldn't tell us exactly what would happen. basically what they were going, original we thought they'd talk to people. that's when they used the tear gas and the bullets and grenades. clearly the idea was they have to disperse. and they have to use uncomfortable methods to go home. >> the streets of ferguson missouri, stand by ashar quraishi, and areva martin, we'll continue the coverage after this.

we are following breaking news out of ferguson missouri. it was a week ago last week that michael brown was shot to death. a week later, here we are at

10:and -- 10:30 and the unrest on the streets consequence. ashar quraishi joins us again. can you set the scene for us? >> it's quiet. we hear shots fired, with what we thing are gas or tear gas cannisters a mile up the road. an hour ago we saw the vehicles moving in on the area. we saw molotov cocktails thrown at the mobile command center where they set up operations. they continued this way and fired tear gas cannisters and smoke gas cannisters before that. protesters began - i think we are showing you video of what we saw earlier, of the gas cannisters coming at - coming from the police as the crowds were moving along the streets, trying to push forward. we heard people yelling and

screaming that there were children in the area, and if there were children moving this way, to continue to push them through. so that's what the scene was here earlier. we do still continue, as you can hear behind me, have cap stare fire in the background, push -- cannister fire in the background up to where the qt took place, much of the looting took place sunday night, a day after michael brown was shot dead, happening a little bit, a few blocks away from where he was killed. >> stand by again for just a moment. our producers tell me - what are we doing, veto. i want to bring in cory, the former deputy inspector with the new york police department. we spoke earlier. what do you make of the situation? >> well, it's a sad situation. i feel for that community. the police officers have to get a grip of the situation.

now they will get a grip quickly because this is supposed to happen in america. does this look like we are in iraq in the war zone. this is the united states of america. somebody down there has to take control of the situation. bring in a force of police allowing the police to protest. they are tearing down the city. >> how do you do that. you are a former police inspector. >> the first thing we need to do is set up zones of safety, allowing the people to protest. you can allow the protest. you have to give them a lot, somewhere, 3-4 block square area where they can protest, so as to condense the city. looks like the city is out of control, and they are doing what they want to do. someone has to rein them in, bring in someone that has experience dealing with demonstrations of the magnitude.

i understand the defense of the police is a small department, and now the state troopers have been brought in. i am sure it's not more. they need someone used to dealing with these type of situations to come in and quell this. look at the live video, is this how you deal with the situation of protesters? >> well, if it's a peaceful protest, you sit back, get a zone of safety, allow them to have a peaceful process, and when they ratchet up, it's getting more violent. now we need to bring in experts, police officers that's trained to deal with this control. extensive training. you need officers that train in disorder control. you feel this is behind the state of andrej meszaros. >> it's behind the state of missouri. it's six days into this. now the autopsy has been released and i understand that he's been shot six times, fired from the rear. it's out of control.

somebody - that government of missouri needs - they need to get police professionals that are used to dealing with this. if it takes them bringing in a national guard. at this point it looks like the police don't have enough man power or control to deal with the situation. the national guard says you have to bring calm to the community, and it needs to be done swiftly. >> what is your concern, you mention mentioned the autopsy report, mentioned in the "new york times". michael brown was revealed to have been shot six times, twice in the head. what are your concerns now that the initial autopsy has been released? >> see, this is a problem. when we spoke earlier, the police chief had relationships with the community is obvious that there was no relationships. even in tragic situations, we have had tragic situations in the n.y.p.d., we didn't burn the

city down. the police - the police officers had relationships with them. there was a lot of protests, but they didn't burn anything down, no stores were looted, no cars were burnt. the difference is our training was much better. they need to have trained professionals used to dealing with this situation. >> areva martin, long-time resident of ferguson missouri, also an attorney, joining us via the phone. i want your take on this. what does it say about the larger picture when we are looking at, i guess the racial divide in america? >> well, i think what it says is that this city was a powder keg waiting to happen, a canary in a coal mine. in the same period that michael brown was shot, three african-american men were shot, one in ohio, one in l.a., and the new york situation. all unarmed african-american men. this situation obviously calls

for and compels a larger conversation about race relationships as your new york police officer said. there was no relationship between the african american residents of ferguson, and the police department. the chief said on national television that he was oblivious to the lack of relationship. it shows that the country - we are sticking our head in the mud when it comes to the volatile relationship. when you have african-americans, 67% of the community, but they are not in the power structure. when you have school districts failing the kids. high rates of unemployment, disproportionate number of african-americans in the communitiment we'll be back in this situation if we don't take advantage of this situation, to not just react to what happened to mike brown, but have a larger

conversation about how do we deal with the disparities, when the young people feel like they have no options, no alternativesers for them to be out and -- alternatives, for them to be out and challenge the police, they don't feel like it's mattered. >> you bring up an interesting point areva. i want to get back to our guest. how do you re-examine the police force and policies of race relations. what i believe now, there needs to be a change top down. top down there needs to be a change in the leadership. for the police chief to be oblivious for the community says a lot. he has to go. he should be the first bun to go. they -- first one to go. they need to bring someone in with experience dealing with minority communities. 67% of community is african-american, there's only 3 african-american police officers. the mayor should be looking at that saying - once he was re-elected - "we need to do

something, there's no blacks on the school board in the city." i am sure the whole public schools are african-american. there's serious deep-rooted issues and need someone to come in and deal with race relations. there's a lot of organizations out there. police officers, you have the national organizations of black law enforcement executives which i was a president of. those organizations out there, they have to bring the people in. we'll talk more about the issues as they monitor the situation. new images from ashar quraishi. we'll take a quick break and we join the coverage coming up in a

moment. welcome back to al jazeera america. there is civil unrest on the streets of ferguson missouri. we are continuing our coverage. ashar quraishi joining us again. i know you captured new images a moment ago. >> that's right. we are going to bring you some of the most dramatic images shot

by the photographer, who was caught in the immediatest of the cannisters being fired on the protestors. take a look at the video. basically what you are looking at, what we understand was happening at that point was some of those protesters were standing up, they put their hands up and as they heard the announcement from the tactical officers in the armoured vehicles that they needed to disperse, leave the area, that's when we started seeing the firings, the cannisters fired, the gas cannisters, and the crowds began to run in the opposite direction. to give you a sense of the lay of the land when it comes to that, that is nowhere near where much of the protesting was happening. that was closer to the mobile

unit that was the off-site unit where police have been staging their operation. very, very different places that we are talking about, where this cannister shooting, where the tear gas deployed began and where it ended down the street. >> former deputy inspector with the new york police department joining us. you have been in a number of situations. looking at the video. what do you make of it? >> it looks chaotic and doesn't like like there's control from the police on the streets. >> what do you make on the tactics. >> when i look at the video i see tear gas deployed in a crowd of people. it's a dangers situation. i don't want to sit here and beat the costs up. the videos are obvious. there needs to be control, with five to six days since the incident. >> do you feel it's time for the national guard. someone has to give them help. if it's not the national guard

they need to fly in trained police officers that's able to deal with crowd control. we don't have processes with guns taking pot shots. we have rowdy crowd. it's people that need to deal with crowd control, disorder control. it's something we in n.y.p.d. do all the time. >> some feel it would be a temporary solution. you restore peace, but how do you restore the community's faith in the police force? >> we have to put a ban dade on it -- band-aid on it. we can't allow the community to burn down. after the band-aid - you can work on race relations, you have to work on it. this is a given. you have to work on race relations. >> areva martin joining us, attorney and resident of the fergus ferguson, missouri. what is the untold story. >> let me correct the record.

i'm not a resident of the ferguson, i lived in jennings, next door to ferguson, so nearby, very familiar. i think the untold story is that st louis and the surrounding communities are the most segregated cities in the united states. i don't think people have a good sense of how race relations play themselves out in a city like st louis, although it's thought of of the midwest, characters and traits are like being in the south. if you are african american, you live in the suburbs, if you are white you live on the south side of the city and the western suburbs. i read an article that was published in a main stream publication and said what do the whites in olivet, which is an affluent suburb thing of the african-american in ferguson.

it wasn't a pretty article. some of the comments were reprehensible. i think the nature and the entrenched nature of the disparities, and the poor relationships between african-americans, and whites in the city are being pointed out on the television, before the nation to see. so the untold story is they are saying it was segregated. in many ways, it's like living in the south before the 1960s, before the advances we made after the civil rights struggle. >> ashar quraishi, you heard so many of these stories, this is an ongoing problem in ferguson. that's right, some of the things we heard, there's a sense of disenfranchisement. one resident i talked to talked about how people were trying to register the young people to vote and couldn't convince them

registering them to vote, giving them a voice would do anything to change their status. that is something she found saddening, desperate. i want to show you a little bit of video moments before things got bad and ugly of peaceful protests taking place down the street. there are a lot of people, hundred came out, a lot of vehicles and signs peel on top of carsers chanting and shouting, being boisterous but peaceful. this location was about a file from where the tear gas cannisters began to be filed. there are a lot of people, a lot of people coming out to protest, to voice their concerns, talk about their grievances, and as one of those residents talk to to me earlier said they are

voicing their concerns, but don't understand how to protest, look forward and empower themselves. that is part of the hopelessness that fuels the anger, she says, that we have seen over the last few nights, and continuing today. >> one of the residents of st louis told you earlier, i remember from a previous report, that the mrs. is the new gang -- police is the new gang, is that how they view the police department, as a gang? >> a lot of the youth here view the plus as a new gang. they don't see a reflection of the demographic change we have seen in ferguson, for example, as you have been saying. three officers out of 53 african-americans, 70% of the population african american. it's a dramatic change, shift. that is something that specifically they say there's more tension with the youth. i heard a young man yelling, cursing the police, saying that they were - they had stopped him

multiple times, and only because of his race. there is not only a racial tension, but tension between the authority of the police and the youth who feel victim iced and targeted by the police. a tough situation. >> many thought there would be piece following the unity rally. martin luther king iii was at the rally in ferguson, and i spoke with him earlier, following that rally. he told us the community is starting to heal, but it will be a long road. >> ultimate healing will not come until there's a diagrammatic change in one of the areas is in policing. and i believe community policing is certainly something that must be engaged but police departments need human relations sensitivity and diversement

training. timely, importantly, opportunities must be created not just if ferguson, but first and foremost in ferguson, throughout st louis. there really is an abundance of talent, an abudance of opportunity in this land called america. that opportunity has been - communities of colour has been excluded. that is why you have a high level of frustration, animosity and anger. the anger is because african american - particularly young men, are stopped, probably 7, 8, 9 times more than others. in this city of ferguson, if you look at the amount of tickets, almost 90% of the tickets that are given in this community, or maybe 95 were given to african-americans, and come and live and just come through the communities. it's almost like you target

african-americans. there's a legitimate - a legitimate anger against those in charge. i mean no one would mind people being stopped in they are speeding, but when you target, profile people, that is wrong, it must change. >> what will it take to heal the community? >> well, number one, there has to be justice for the brown family. how justice comes is through the court system. and the attorneys have said that michael brown was executed. if that is found to be the case, then serious justice - i'm not an advocate of the death penalty, from a sentencing structure, this police officer should never be out of gaol again. a kid was executed, murdered.

that's the first thing. justice for the brown family. the second thing is a transition in the community. for example, the police department needs to identify x number of positions that they will diligenty go out to engage diversity, have diversity in the police department. that is one area. also, there needs to be a training programme. a commitment for training and dollars to train people in the community of ferguson, and surrounding communities. that ultimately will lead to jobs. that's what will heal the community. it will be a long road ahead and you are offering words of comfort to the community. we appreciate your time. thank you for joining us on al jazeera. following the rally, we want to point out president obama is due to meet where attorney general eric holder to talk about the situation in ferguson.

holder ordered earlier today an independent autopsy of michael brown in due in part to what the justice department said were the extraordinary circumstances of the days. the "new york times" is reporting results from the autopsy saying the teen was reportedly shot by police six times twice in the head. the times, says the autopsy was conducted by the former chief medical examiner in new york city. areva martin joining us again. will the community get justice. whatever that may be? >> i think the independent medical examination in the report will go a long way in allowing the district attorney to present the case to the grand jury. if the shot inside the vehicle might have been justified because the officer believed his life was in danger, it would be difficult to make a case that he

leafed his life was in danger ones michael -- once michael exited the vehicle and was running away from him with his hands up. that evidence heard from the eyewitnesss, coupled with the me's report gives the district attorney enough information to present the case to a grand jury and seek charges filed against the officer involved in the shooting. that will go a long ways in giving the family peace and giving the community some sense that justice is being served. but i think it will be a difficult road. i think people who don't quite have a thorough understanding of the court system. they are going to be patient. these things are not going to happen overnight. a grand jury is not going to be empanelled overnight, and charges not filed. the community is going to have to be patient. the comments of the new york

police officer about bringing in trained professionals, i have been saying, for the last several days, that this matter was way above the hands of the police involved, that we need to see the chief exit. he is creating more descension in the community, and he is a source of the problem at this point. i think as this evidence about the examination and what decision the district attorney gets played out. we are going to need peace, we'll need that community to be patient, to accept what will happen. justice in the court system is not swift. >> former deputy inspector with the new york police department - final thoughts? >> swift justice - rather sooner than later. i believe there's a whole lot of evidence here just from what i'm hearing for the past few days, the autopsy report is out.

the only way they'll get healing right now is if the officer identified not only by name, they need to release a photo of him, because the community needs to know now that the police department is being transparent. they still do not have an official picture released of this officer. why are they hiding this officer, and they need to come down with an indictment. all of the heffed gathered. if it's true, they saw this. 2.5, and look this young lady said, if it was shot in the car, trying to defend themselves, five of us shot are outside of the vehicle. we know that mr brown did not have a firearm. >> we know the officer's name and image is out there, but not officially released from the ferguson police departmentment ashar quraishi joining us on the streets of ferguson.

your final thoughts? >> well, still another night of unrest here in ferguson. we have not heard officially anything more from the missouri highway patrol despite reaching out to them. they are in the midst of trying to calm the operation. we hear shots fired, cannisters in the distance. again, i imagine we will not here interest the highway patrol until late into the evening once they complete hearing the streets. >> no arrests so far. >> hard to say at this point again, seven arrests last night. we didn't hear about that until later in the evening. if we hear the cannister firing happening, the police preps continuing to go down the street, they are dealing with people in the background and dealing with trying to clear the streets. it's likely there'll be arrests tonight. >> there's a call for peace in ferguson missouri, with a midnight curfew in an hour.

ashar quraishi, areva martin, and cory joining us. appreciate all your time. we'll continue the latest developments throughout the night on al jazeera, and always on aljazeera.com. thank you for joining us. be safe.

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