another loud night in ferguson as the national guard arrives to help keep order. is the national security team advising the president on iraq wrong for the job? hello, i'm moantonio mora, welce to "consider this". those stories and more straight ahead. the attorneys for michael brown releasing the results of an autopsy on the teen shot and killed in ferguson, missouri.

>> witness accounts were true. >> he was shot at least six times. >> following a night of violent protests. national guard is moving in. looting, carrying guns. a major battle is waging in iraq. >> air strikes are helping iraqi and kurdish troops re claim the damn. >> a ceasefire extended for another 24 hours. >> gaza needs hospitals, schools, houses - not rockets, tunnels and conflict. >> in india more than 300 villages are flooded. >> it's the same fore every year, floods, land slides taking the lives of hundreds. we begin in the streets of ferguson, missouri, governor jay nixon lifted a curfew, hoping it would help to restore peace after nights of protests following the shooting death of moun by a white policeman --

michael brown by a white policeman. permits of the missouri national guard -- elements of the missouri national guard and captain ron johnson said that while peaceful protests will be allowed... >>..we will not allow vandals, criminal elements to impact the safety and security of the community. an independent autopsy requests by the family explained part of what happened the day of the shooting. >> six bullets struck, and two may have re-entered. they weren't science of a struggle. >> in washington president obama met with attorney general eric holder and called on protesters to be calm. >> giving in to that anger by looting or playing guns or attacking the police only serves to raise tensions and stir chaos. >> it undermines rather than

advancing justice. for more on crowd control and keeping violence off the streets, i'm joined by a former los angeles police chief, and is a member of the los angeles city council, serving the eighth district. a pleasure to have you with us. we have seen several nights of violence. governor nixon lifted the curfew, bringing in the national guard. are they wise moves under the circumstances? >> i think it will play out to see how it's addressed and how people will accept them. i sense that there has been so many dramatic changes from an argument or concern about the mebbinganisation of policing to a curfew, the curfew is gone, now the national guard. there has to be at some point consistency in how the city will address the issues. >> mechanizing, militarizing, we

see a lot of police doing that, for having a big overwhelming response to the protest. armoured vehicles. were critics correct when they suggested that that response inflamed the situation? >> depends on how you use the equipment. it's not a danger, it's how it's moved. often what you see in using the equipment, you loaded offscene and bring it in when necessary. i think that, you know, you can't criticise them for wearing vests and helmets, when people are throwing fire bombs and shooting. the issue of what benefit the armoured weapon trucks are, will only play out in the long term, in that you have to use them, and it shouldn't be a show of force for no benefit.

it should be to reduce the level of violence. it's something you have to play by ear. there's no set guidelines, again we have to realise that criticising, talking about vehicles is taking the argument and discussion off the main point. the main point is a thorough investigation is to find out was force legally or illegally used against the victim. the other is to use the violators out of the crowd that is peacefully demonstrating. those that want to be peace. and the rest of the community, business people, will not be harmed by their property damaged, that they become injured. those are the focuses. mostly anything else on the periphery until we resolve the points.

>> to your first point about the investigation, what about the ways that the ferguson handle that. it took 10 days to hear how many bullets hit michael brown, it took a week to get the shooting officer's name, and it was released at the same time as a tape of a robbery that michael brown allegedly committed. has the department fuelled the flames. >> i think you have to make a judgment as quickly, or thoroughness. the worst thing the department or anyone could do is give information. when we get the autopsy report today, the only thing we know of that we didn't know at the time he deceased is the number of shots. we knew the day he died was due to gunfire. toxicology is the other issue, and the comparison of the

autopsy to the physical investigation has not been done. basically the forensic scientist said he cannot make a thorough and a judgment or a final judgment on anything in the preliminary report until he can compare it with the evidence on the scene. it may have caused more question than it answered. the push to get information so quickly just, in my judgment creates another volley of information about dealing with rumours, and things of that nature, which constantly is something which fills the airways, but doesn't solve the problem of getting to the point of whether deadly force was appropriate. >> you were deputy chief during the riots. you were a police officer during the riots in 1965. you see some of the worst in the cities.

given what you have heard, about handling volatile crowds. what would your advice be for the officers in ferguson. >> we learnt a great deal in "65. we found out that you could not allow a riot to go unabated, believing it would burn itself out. because it will eventually burn the city. we learn in the rodney king incident, is that there has to be a great deal more attention paid to the tenure of the community prior to an explosive event, and then we learnt after the trial was over, that we have to be more sensitive to deploy resources in contemplation of a potential outburst. those are things you learn, and you find that they are hurtful in the sense of property damage and loss of life. again, there's no specific formula allowing you to know what to do in every incident.

you are deploying your resources, putting them in place, and you hope they serve the community. you have to be careful of not overdeploying or using equipment and resources to bluff the public because they quickly sense, as it relates to your activities, whether you are basically going - how you are going to handled something, and you can't have, as i thing you have seen in ferguson, where every day there's a new strategy. the public will sense indecision and they'll act accordingly. >> so many variables and a volatile situation, and a lot of important points. a pleasure to have you with us. >> for more, let's go to the streets of ferguson missouri, and robert ray, our correspondent. good to see you, are you streets tense? what is the mood like tonight? >> it's been peaceful so far, but you can see missouri state

highway patrol behind me, down the block protesters have been coming up and down the strot. national guard is up at the command center awaiting to be deployed in case the peaceful protests go awry. thus far, there has been a few arrests. we've had a major journalist arrested earlier today. things are quiet. we are waiting to see what will happen. >> were people surprised the curfew was lifted. has that diffused things. >> people were surprised that the curfew was lifted. we are not sure how plate people will be out here. yesterday this went down. some of the back and forth between the police and protesters went down 8:30,

9 o'clock. >> in the national guard, you said they were there at the command center, and that's where they are supposed to stay. is that still the plan? >> yes. i mean, they are at the command center a few blocks from us. last night some protesters infringed, and i think that's why they were called in. it would have to get nasty for them to come out. there's a lot of police presence. there's an officer behind me. the cops have the sticks out, the cops, and a lot of people have these. we are hoping not to use these, the gas masks. a lot of folks were hit bad with it. some of the citizens have gone to army navy stores in case this occurs again. it's difficult to think about the things that could happen, and a volatile situation. robert ray, ferguson, missouri,

thank you for joining us. for more on the autopsy, i'm joined by dr carter. a lot of people hoped the autopsy by a good cole eke of yours, dr bader. here is what he showed, that michael brown was running towards or away from plifr darren wilson when the police officer fired. >> it could be consistent with his going forward or going back ward. but they are from the front. if it was shot going forward, he would collapse right away. it's possible. there's a number of different possibilities. >> why is it so difficult to determine what happened in this era of csi. people thing you guys can figure everything out. a lot of witnesses say brown had

his arms up in surrender. do we not yet know? >> we don't know that yet. this proves the autopsy by itself does not determine what happened. it will be important to look at all the various statements, seeing photographs, appearance of the body. we do have different services, and bodies can be in moecks when they are injured by gunfire. it will be important to have a look at that victim's body. the scene, the police cruiser, and most important the uniform of the police officer would be important as well. >> and it is important because we have these conflicting stories from witnesses, and we have heard from an alleged friend of officer wilson's. she said that wilson's version was that michael brown had attacked him in his car, and

when brown started to walk away officer wilson got out of the car and told him to freeze. then wilson's friend said on the radio that brown did this. >> he just started to come at him full speed and - so he started shooting and he kept coming. he really things he was on something, because he just kept coming. it was unbelievable:. >> do you think the forensics will be able to help us sort out which of the stories is true? >> well, certainly that's the main thrust for going to the autopsy. we can't provide 100% of apes. these will be analysed, and it's difficult when you do a second autopsy, you don't have all the information, the way the body was presented, you don't have the clothing at hand. you are working half blindsided.

so as dr baden said, he didn't have the x-rays, all the original information. somehow you have to put both of these out op -- autopsies together. the photographs from the crime scene, clothing from the officer's clothing, and coming up with a scenario to explain the wound and how they could have occurred. >> now the clothing and how close they were, this is what dr baden had to say. >> there's no gup shot residues on the skin surface. so that the muzzle of the gun was one to two feet away. in order to be firm about that, we have to look at the clothing, which we haven't had the opportunity to look at. sometimes the clothing can filter out gunshot residues. >> why is distance such an

important factor. well, as we have heard there might have been a gunshot fired off within the vehicle, and also that both the victim and a perpetrator were close enough to have physical contact. if we were in close proximity, we would be looking at evidence of gun powder embedded into the skin of the victim. certainly gunpowder on the uniform of the officer that would tell you that they were, indeed, in close proximity, and looking for evidence of the gun fire within that vehicle. >> the st louis county medical office praxed an autopsy last week, dr michael bayden performed his, and now there'll be a third, scheduled to be performed by medical examiners at the pentagon.

would you be surprised if all three didn't produce the same results? >> not at all. you are doing an autopsy on a body already examined, it's not in a fresh condition. you have different people with perhaps different training methods, and they are probably not communicating with one another. each may tell you something a little different. >> according to the reports, the county autopsy showed that michael brown had marijuana in his system. besides, you know marking him as someone who might use drugs, does that serve any purpose, i think, in conventional wisdom saying marijuana would make it less likely for someone to be violent. >> well, a complete autopsy has to have toxicology done. i am sure there'll be someone looking into michael brown's background, character,

interactions of the people. it's good to roll out that he does not have strong drugs in his system. that may be looked at for him being aggressive. marijuana is common these days it's good to have the completion of the toxicology aspect. >> so many questions, thank you for helping us clarify what you can. coming up, the u.s. increases air strikes against the islamic state, helping kurdish and iraqi forces retake a critical dam. a form u.s. official says iraq is being advised by the wrong group of people. when you run a business, you can't settle for slow.

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targets near iraq's largest hired electric dam on monday. the attack marking an expansion on what is a humanitarian mission, allowing kurdish and iraqi forces to recapture the mosul dam from the is fighters, the biggest setback for the insurgents. as president obama returned to the white house on monday, members of the his own party say more needs to be done. >> if our mission is not to take out the islamic extremists, threatening and waging war against us, we have a problem. >> joining us from dubai is ali kaderi, the longest continually serving assistant in iraq, an assistant to five u.s. ambassadors, and senior advisor to three commanders. ali, good to have you with us. did you expect the expanded bombing by the u.s., now that it seems the iraqis will be able to

form a new government with prime minister haider al-abadi, as opposed to his predecessor, nouri al-maliki. >> it's a good step that the obama administration is recognising what a threat is is to international security. three years after allowing asaad's genocide to continue unabated, really the continues that allowed i.s.i.s. to be created, recognising that it didn't exist three years ago, and after watching for months, entering iraq, seize a third of the territory and gain control over the mosul dam, i'm encouraged that the administration is understanding the threat of iraq and i.s.i.s. and confront it with kurdish allies and others. >> you wrote that haider al-abadi is iraq's last chaps,

that sectarian politics is turning iraq into lebanon or b siberia, and the hollowing out of iraq - you don't sound hopeful for haider al-abadi, even if he begins a campaign of national reconciliation. >> right. a concern i had for months and years, is americans under president bush and obama are willing to bet and stake our international security on individuals. leadership is important. the prime minister represents an change, but as i outlined in the new york times peace, the problems go beyond haider al-abadi. if you were to install a wonderful leader like nelson mandela, i'm not sure that he could overcome systematic failures within the iraqi

political system because of the entrenched sectarianism and corruption, and the interference of powers like iran, to weaken iraq and keep it upped tehran's control. we had -- under tehran's control. we had two former ambassadors to iraq on the shot. both have been critical of the administration. the president took a break from vacation to meet with the security council about iraq. you wrote that the national security staff sa part of the problem -- staff is part of the problem. most don't speak the language, and you quote a white house staffer that say: you call that inexcusable. >> absolutely, i watched the coverage of the president returning from martha's vineyard and meeting with the president in the roosevelt room in the white house. from the people pictured around the table. not one speaks arabic, not one served in iraq, not a single one

of them served in the middle east. i am extremely troubled by the this. having sat in on national security council meetings in the past. i know what issues are discussed. i know how serious the matters can be, and are right now. and frankly it troubles me that the president is getting advice from some well-meaning, very patriotic and hardworking men and women, but none have served in iraq. and that is troubling. >> now, you also ask do iraqis want to live with one another. and ambassador, who has been an advisor to the kurds, talked to us and he seemed to think no, the division between shiites, sunnis and kurds will split up the country and talking about the kurds, he thinks the kurd will move on to have their own independent state. >> i know ambassador galbraith

well, he advised the kurds during constitutional negotiations. he's right. again, the rule under saddam hussein from the 19 '70s, '80s, and '90s, left nouri al-maliki with a legacy. this is why i believe, really, we are facing iraq's last chance to hold together as a unitary stake. either iraqi leaders and citizens from all three communities adopt truth, reconciliation, forgiving and forgetting what happened and moving on, or as is likely to be the case, they'll be unable to get over the abuse of the shias and kurds, the sunnis will be unable to forgive the shia abuses over the past 8-9 years, and the kurds will, indeed, decide that they want no part of arab iraq, and will most likely,

although not with certainty, most likely will move to either adopt a confederal system, where they have full autonomy, or at the end of it they may just, after a referendum declare independence and move to a separate country. >> the quick final question, you say the sunnis are upset with the u.s., because the u.s. waited to get involved until the yazidi and the kurds were threatened, and you call for more u.s. involvement. >> it's a complicated issue, it's not only the sunnis that are upset. it's the regional allies are upset which the lack of engagement in iraq, and leading a vacuum by iran filled, and now the shia in baghdad led by nouri al-maliki's government, are upset for failing to defend kurdistan, but not baghdad when

besieged by i.s.i.s. it's complicated and for that reason, in addition to the fact that the problems are spilling into other neighbours, like lebanon and syria, and kuwait in the future, it's for that reason i believe preserving middle eastern security in syria, that's why we need a middle east tsar in the form of a 5-star general, a modern day dwight eisenhower. it could turn into a region at matter, global oil could be at stake. a pleasure to have you joining us. thank you. >> thank you for having me. for more we are joined from washington d.c. by david cal cullen, an advisor to condoll ease yes rice and pet ray us.

he is the author of "out of the mount inns, the coming age of the urban guerilla", we heard from a former u.s. advisor in iraq that says the u.s. must get more engaged in the point of a 5-star general to become a tsar, to protect american interests abroad and here at home from terrorists. i know i argued that western strategy is in disarray. would an american tsar help. >> it couldn't hurt. it won't solve the problem on its own. we have to recognise that assistance the beginning of this summer, the end of may, the entirety of western strategy in what used to be called the war on terrorism, the approach since 9/11, has fallen down around our ears. what we need to do is have a deeper and broader reassessment of what is going on, and what we can do about it.

if we get that right, appointing someone becomes a viable option. if we don't, you can appoint the best person in the world and it will not make a difference. >> let's get into the details. the president expanded air strikes against is. it helped curd and mentorses retake the dam. the president said on monday that our involvement is limited. is that enough to get rid of is. which and you others called the greatest global threats. >> it is, and is approaching levels before. it's a pretty serious threat. i think if you look at the way the president has been interpreting the mandate that he's had for the past week or so, since the beginning of air strikes, it's broad and it's doing a lot within the scope of this idea of humanitarian

protection. and... >> protection of anyone interest. >> that's a broad brush that could be used for a variety of things. the question is whether he'll feel committed enough and maintain a sustained enough level of interest to do what needs to be done to set back is. which i think would look a lot like kosovo or libya or the beginning of the war in afghanistan, 2001. >> not reinvading or reoccupying iraq, but pretty significant. >> what about mission green. american opinions changed about the u.s. responsibility to respond to u.s. violence in iraq. a pew poll found: president obama was asked about that and he said this. >> our goal is to have effective

partners on the ground. if we have effective partners on the ground, mission creep is less likely. >> now, i now you argued that mission creep happened, he's gone further than he said he would. i realise you think he should go further. do you think more, greater u.s. involvement, some democrats are calling for that. i think what the president said is perfectly true. we need to have a viable partner on the ground. the point is that it will take three, four months to get the iraqi and the kuds to a point where they are in a viable state where they can push back is on the ground. in that time there'll be a need for sustained air strikes to hold is back and begin the process of holding them back. it won't be a surgical matter of

pilots above a clean landscape. it'll be about specialists on the ground, advisors and trainers, and it's a significant commitment. >> general michael flynn said islamic terrorists groups are met asitiesizing, almost doubling in numbers. some of the groups are talking about combining with is, which arguably about becoming a world power. >> it has brought western strategy unstuck. the eclipse, the fact that it's replaced by the islamic state. the rise of the islamic state itself as a much more capable and more organised state-like entity, but the third is the failure of the arab spring to generate a stable governance

change. those three taken together basically created a new situation which there's no precedent for, and if we don't consider very broadly what to do, then the chances are that we'll look back and realise the last 14 years since fch, and all the -- 9/11, and all the lives lost were for nothing. >> i know your concern about the split from ist s and al-qaeda -- is, and al qaeda, and the withdrawal from afghanistan, if not done properly can lead to problems. thank you for joining us. >> now for more stories from around the world. >> we begin in london, where wikipedia founder julian assange said he'll soon leave the ecuadorian embassy, where he has spent the last two years of his

listen. he is considering leaving the embassy because the health issues. >> as you can imagine, being detained in various ways in this country without charge for four years and in this embassy for two years, which has no outside area, therefore no sunlight, it is an environment in which any healthy person would find themselves soon enough with certain difficulties. >> julian assange refused to leave the embassy out promises that the u.k. and sweden will not extradite him to the united states, to face questions in connection with chelsea manning's wikipedia disclosure. >> next health officials concerned about ebola, 17 patients with ebola went missing

after a quarantine center was attacked. looters sold mat riss and sheets soaked with blood and fluid. the poor neighbourhood is populated with 50,000 people. liberia's health minister called the attack and looting one of the stupidest thing he has seen. >> we end near the border where mon sons caused flooding on a massive scale, killing hundreds, leaving tens of thousands homeless. 200 villages were flooded and thousands of acres of farm land have been washed away. >> 10,000 people were evacuated from shelters. 11 villages were isolated from floods cut off. that is some of what is happening around the world. >> straight ahead. another extension of the ceasefire may not necessarily be a good sign. while the u.s. has no official

language, most speak english in public. the languages spoken at home are di., a story -- different story. >> have you read an article and thought it was real, and do you care? facebook does, it has a plan to make sure it doesn't happen again. harmeli aregawi is tracking the top stories on the web. what is trending. >> this is trending. the sci and cyber security experts warn there's not enough safeguards to protect health records. personal data from millions of patients across the u.s. has been stolen. and if you miss the discussion we have check out the social media pages:

the end of the 5-day ceasefire expired on monday, not before netters dread to ex -- negotiators agreed to extend it by 24 hours to give more time. it was seen as a sign the two sides might be close to a deal officially both are far apart, with one egyptian official saying there was no progress in the past 24 hours. meanwhile israeli troops demolished the homes of two palestinians expected in the abduction and killing in juan. and sealed up the home of a third. joining us from washington is greg and the digital editor for news and he reported from jerusalem, and is the co-author of this burning land. lessons from the front line of the transformed contact. >> good to have you back on the show. what should we read into the fact that we should only read.

both sides are a little exhausted and don't want to fight any more. >> there were reports that a long-deal was closed, crossing under the pallian authority be open. fishing terms be extended. does any of this sound realistic. >> that would be a successful outcome, but it sounds look that would be a stretch. the israelis will show, or binyamin netanyahu, the prime minister, feels that he will have to show that they gained something from the fight. and that would mean demilitarizing hamas, which is probably also unrealistic. but shows something other than making concessions to hamas. i'm not sure why the israelis

would be willing to buy into this. >> what would israel get in exchange. if the palestinian authority was in charge of the gaza crossings, if they were taking more authority in gaza as opposed to hamas, do you think that would be appealing to the israelis? >> potentially. part of the israelis, it would be a significant development. to me that's perhaps an important thing that can come out of this, as if the palestinian authority, mahmoud abbas, the fatah, leader in the west bank can re-establish a foothold in gaza. it may be something like controlling the crossing. it may not be a full reintegration. if me can establish the palestinian authority, that would be a significant development, and something appealing to israel in the sense that they are not facing hamas. binyamin netanyahu did tough talking on sunday night br a cabinet meeting.

let's listen to that. >> translation: if hamas thinks it can compensate for military defeat with diplomatic gapes, it is smap. if hamas thinks through firing it will cause us to make concessions, it is smap. >> one element of longer termed discussions involves a port in gaza, a hard line said allowing a report is again to opening a duty free store. one of the things that is so disheartening for anyone watching the conflict is if you go back to 2000, the palestinians had an airport in gaza. they were flying their own planes to europe. the fishermen could go 12 miles off the coast. every day there was a rush hour, thousands of gazan men went into israel, they came back in the oo evening. they made an industrial center.

factories owned by israel, palestinian workers. to see the two sides trying to negotiate things they had 15 years ago is, i think, very disheartening if you are looking at this in the longer term. >> you argued in your book, looking at it in the broader picture, that in the end clear, decisive victories are for other times, both sides have a stake in keeping the conflict going, rather than negotiating a long-term solution, are you more optimistic now than when you wrote the book. >> not particularly. one of the things that struck us is how in many ways the conflict was getting more difficult to solve, rather than easier. going back to 2000, where some of the practical issues, in terms of palestinian movement and people going across crossing points, airports and the possibility of ports, we have gone backwards to the

palestinians trying to win minimal right to import the basic necessities, and not anything that a functioning stayed would need. >> greg, sometimes it's depre depressing to hear the news out of that part of world. let's hope thinks improve. it's a pleasure to have you back on the show. >> time to see what is trending on the web. >> we discussed the health industry and it being susceptible to attacks. >> the criminal elements value the health record because there's so much information in there. it's so rich. they can create a strong identity, false identity. a credit card can be turned off with a call to 1800, i lost my credit card. >> on monday the ian thet call

situation became reality. community health systems operating 200 hospitals in 29 states announced chinese hackers stole data from the records of 4.5 million patients. they obtained names, social security, birthday said and telephone numbers. rich information that can be used to open bank accounts and credit cards. fortunately she didn't get clinical histories. so far the investigators determined use. in the meantime, the health network is offering identity protection for those affected. >> coming up, facebook decides that it needs to warn you about articles that are satire. do we need them to baby sit us. is it ruining the joke.

how many people speaking other languages at home and in the u.s. which are soaring in popularity and which are dropping. that's in data dive next. >> audiences are intelligent and they know that their needs are not being met by american tv news today. >> entire media culture is driven by something that's very very fast... >> there has been a lack of fact based, in depth, serious journalism, and we fill that void... >> there is a huge opportunity for al jazeera america to change the way people look at news. >> we just don't parachute in on

a story...quickly talk to a couple of experts and leave... >> one producer may spend 3 or 4 months, digging into a single story... >> at al jazeera, there are resources to alow us as journalists to go in depth and produce the kind of films... the people that you don't see anywhere else on television. >> we intend to reach out to the people who aren't being heard. >>we wanna see the people who are actually effected by the news of the day... >> it's digging deeper it's asking that second, that third question, finding that person no one spoken to yet... >> you can't tell the stories of the people if you don't get their voices out there, and al jazeera america is doing just that.

today's data dive is speaking your language. even though language is not designated america's official language, it's what most of us speak in public. for more than one in five, it's not the primary language at

home. 60.6 million in the u.s. speak something else with their families. spanish, including spanish creole is the most dominant. second, indoe europe languages. asian pacific. the number of people speaking languages speaking has tripled from 23.1 million in 1980 to the 60 million plus today. spanish increased the most by 26 million. vietnamese people had the biggest percentage increase growing in number by 26%. slate.com looked at which languages are most dominant in each state. spanish dominant in all but

seven. french is tops in four. when english and spanish are taken out of the equation, german becomes the dominant language. in other parts of the county, surprising langer went out. vietnamese is big in texas and nearby states including oklahoma. chinese follows english and spanish. a sign of a changing america. >> coming up, did facebook kill satire by identifying it?

most of us have been duped by an online article from a fake news source. we all have interviews from friends telling stories that are not mildly true. if you are like me, you find it to be a mild annoyance. facebook has decided to come to the rescue. it is testing out a satire tag, letting you know which articles are from the fake news sites. a debate has erupted. facebook may save you being fooled, but will that rue jen it fun -- ruin the fun of news sati satire. jacob ward joins us. "the washington post" was duped by a fake news site, reporting that sarah palin was joining al jazeera, and a chinese paper

reported that kim jong un was voted the world's sexiest man. people are fooled by fake news stories. do we need facebook to warn us? >> i was fooled by a few seconds by the sarah palin thing. i could have used a tag saying no, dummy, this is not happening. the truth is this feels to me like an engineer's few of the world. facebook is trying to sort out and categorise stuff. that you'll be aticketed to it. you'll see through an engineer's mind-set. this is a helpful label you can imagine. we need to make sure people understand. there'll be a sign that points to me. it's the kind of thing, it's a super orderly thinking. that is what a lot of people feel is a lot of fun.

>> people post things on facebook. you look at the headlines, and people believe some things that are not true. it could lead to real issues when the stories are substantive. >> well, that's right. it really is a reflection on how we are consuming media. the people who owned the means of distribution were the only qualified to send a message out. it was a one-way producer and consumer of the news. it's all social media fuelled. they are standing in a river. the way that people are beginning to share news in this viral way that everyone who produces news hopes for - that creates - you become a pathogen when you put out something fake. you look at sites, they issued a report that they are 80% of

people who were sharing the headline, had not read the article. many publishing articles are based on the idea that people skim it and share it. so you are right, fake information can get out there really fast if it looks just real enough. >> as you were saying, we are bombarded by so much of it, who has time to check everything, other than news organizations that should be checking these things. we see surveys that show a lot more people, 128 million in the recent numbers we looked at checked facebook. that's a lot more than read a newspaper. is facebook gig us a public service by warning us what might be satire, and what is not? >> if you think of it from the perspective of a publisher like the onion. you imagine putting yourself in their shoes. it's hard to put yourself in the shoes of something like facebook.

you mention it being a public service. when you talk about a media outlet that reaches 3 billion people, tiny stuff means a great deal. people worry about load time on the pages, images. when they tweak the algorithm so that the images pop up faster, they get millions tuning in, sticking with them than they would otherwise. a little thing like this feels very, very important. >> that's a lot of money for them. if we can get more clicking. >> one argument against this is it ruins the joke. if something is satire. personally i don't get the argument. satire has been around. people have enjoyed satirical books and movies, they knew they were satire. a lot of us - people may end up watching the show, and watch

steven colbert knowing it's satire. >> it's true. >> people would say that when you try to precategorise a form of expression, it takes the edge off of that night. there's sort of a quality to it. this is not a funny conversation you and i are having. it's bloodless. there's something - there's just something about it that trying to precategorise and mediate it for an audience has a humorous quality. in a way it saps the ver vasiveness and unpredictability. >> who knows if it will save me getting emails. i would be happy to have them. >> that's right. >> good to see you. >> that's all for now. the conversation continues on

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