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it. [♪ music ] >> so as we join you from the command center here in ferguson where just behind me the national guard is staging right now, and the police and members of the state highway patrol are staging as well, we want to roll in a couple of shots from a couple of locations along the avenue, and show you what is going on here tonight. this is, this is, as you know a very important moment that we're showing you because what has been the pattern to this point? to this point the pattern has been that the evening starts off with peaceful protest, and then at some point there is some trigger, some spark, and then there is a bit of chaos that ensues. as you take a look at the

picture now from that main stretch. you can see that the police are there. on their patrol cars none of the armored vehicles that we've seen from nights' past. more police on the streets sitting, standing near their patrol cars. this is an important distinction from nights past. are they moving people along? perhaps they are, but we can see that they are in a more relaxed posture, a less confrontational posture. you see some officers here in the blues. a few with shields. not up in a more lowered position at this point, and you see the demonstrators are moving through the streets. again, it must be pointed out at this point in the night things are calm. things are quiet, and it seems to be in response to what we heard from the captain of the state highway patrol early this

morning. we're talking about the small hours of the morning after a difficult night last night here in ferguson. captain ron johnson asked people who were demonstrating peacefully, that those people call it a night at sunset. or just beyond sunset, and allow people who are dealing wit they are dealing with here who cause problems. a large number who have been arrested are from outside the ferguson area. we'll get to robert ray, he has been here for days now. robert, i've been talking to you and your producers as well, it appears at this point things are pretty qualm. we know that at this point last night nerves were getting a little frayed and a little raw, but at the moment things appear to be calm. what is your assessment from

your vantage point? >> reporter: that's the best description for the night, tony. it is very calm. the protesters are moving in a quarter mile radius in a big hoo loop here. we have not seen violence from the protesters or the police. nothing has occurred here tonight, but what they said they wanted to do is peaceful prote protesting. i would like to bring in a guest, elder watts. the police ask them to come here to help the police, is that right. >> yeyes, sir. >> reporter: what are you doing out here? >> what has been your focus since last night? >> our focus is to bring a different impact, and to bring in timeliness, stillness, bring

back peace, a difference of peace. >> reporter: what do you want to see happen out of all of these protests? what is the real reality of what can happen in the coming weeks? >> i want to see justice served, and i want to see there is a way that things should be done, the way things should be done. hopefully we'll just make a difference. >> when you're out here marching with these young and women, what are you hearing from them? and what are you saying to them? >> we're hearing a lot of mixed emotions, a lot of anger, a lot of injustice. things not done right, and we are just here to hopefully make a difference in the peace so that they can go about it in a different direction. >> what is the core issue here besides the terrible tragedy of michael brown? >> i think the core issue here is injustice.

racism still exists. but hopefully with us being here and showing that we all matter. >> we're being told that there is a fight that broke out. the police are moving up there, tony. i'm sorry to interrupt you, but as you can see officers are moving up there. someone has clearly done something up there. we can't speculate but we're being told there is a fight. you hear the here. >> robert, let's do this, we've been watching some of the pictures as well, as you were conducting that interview, as you saw it, whatever is happening and is starting to unfold here, there was a moment in which the officers moved in, and seemed to apprehend one gentleman. whether that gentleman will be arrested or just moved to a different area, we don't know. but we saw the movement of the police officers and now we're just watching to see if things

go back to that sense of qualm. we're looking at one of the officers in charge here pulling other officers back from that particular area, and back for more direct contact from the people who have gathered. so we're going to continue to follow this, but this is the scene, robert. i don't know how how close the scene is to where you are right now, we see a large gathering of people, and this is the kind of gathering that begins to get folks a little nervous. from your vantage point what are you seeing right now? >> reporter: yes, well, tony, i would say whatever is occur something 300 yards down the street from me. i can see the flashing lights and a little bit of noise down there. you know, right when we went live i saw the protesters going behind me. they went up that street and

made a turn. clearly something occurred when they started to make a turn. i can't really make out anything except for a little bit of noise down there and the sirens, tony. >> robert, as we continue to watch this we're seeing people now and you're watching it at home, a young gentleman with a blow horn who is shouting whatever he's shouting. we're seeing what looks to be a pretty diverse group of young people, hands up, who are marching the street there. and in this particular shot we don't see police, but we're going to keep an eye on this situation. >> important to follow these developments. what we've been noticing overnight and commenting on was confirmed by authorities here in ferguson in st. louis county. a number of people who have been arrested and detained, that

number has been 50-51 people arrested at this point. a vast majority of those people have been coming outside of the ferguson area, something that has been a chief complaint of leaders in the community, one we'll talk to in a moment and as we go back to randall pinkston, randall, i know this is a part of the story you've been paying close attention to, and it is the angle of those people coming from outside of the community, and in many cases causing problems. >> let's be clear, yes, there are people who are pointing fingers at out of towners, and they are peaceful. however, the police point out it's a small number of people whether they're from out of town or from the immediate vicinity who are incited violence. but it's hard to tell just who they are and where they're from. is. >> reporter: most of the time most of the protesters in

ferguson has marched peacefully, waving signs and calling for justice for the unarmed teenager killed by a police officer. but sometimes without warning someone crosses the line as one protester complained to al jazeera's robert ray. >> we were able to voice our opinion. we were exercising our first amendment right. and then all of a sudden out of nowhere somebody started throwing bottles of water. >> clearly there is a divide out there. by what you're saying. >> only a few. only a few. >> reporter: police say some of those few have thrown molotov cocktails and weapons. authorities have responded with tear gas, stun grenades and arrests. >> i'm not going to let the criminals who have come out here to cause destruction to define

this neighborhood and detain what we'll do to make it right. >> reporter: authorities say most arrests were from outside of ferguson but not outside missouri. but most of the arrests were for refusal to disperse, not violent actions. they have been trying to prevent violent actions, but has created an opening for confrontation. >> somebody has to be here that these people respect, listen to, know that they're on their side or the team of people is on their side, and then they'll listen. if not, the outsid the provocateurs will take control. >> reporter: most of the people told us that they don't want to cause trouble. but what they do want are answers for michael brown and exactly what happened when the unarmed teenager was shot and

killed by a police officer. just by observation and listening to people who have been talking over the last couple of nights, when we reflect back to the old school civil rights movements they were alls planned in schools where someone plans what is going to do. that does not appear to be the case. people are showing up with no specific direction, and perhaps that's why chaos arise. >> i think you make a great point. that's a great footnote. randall, i will tell you that there is some of that going on, but probably not to the extent that is necessary given, you know, how frayed nerves are here in ferguson. but that's a terrific footnote. i want to introduce you to one of the leaders in this community. her name is patricia binds, and it's great to see pup great to talk to you.

you were talking as we were talking to robert ray, as we saw in the split screen, the police seemingly breaking up an altercation in the crowd. it didn't appear to be, and i don't know this for a fact, but it didn't appear to be between an individual and the police, but two individuals and the crowd. it seemed that there were some in the crowd taking on the bad actors. let's start with what your hopes for are for tonight, and wit what it has been like for you as a leader in this community to see more and more the case outsiders coming into the community, and in some cases causing problems. >> well tonight, of course, i would like to see another peaceful night. we had one night-- >> yes, yes. >> where there were hardly any issues. that's what we want. >> that's when captain johnson took over. >> yes. even last night, i have

personally run from two armor s.w.a.t. vehicles throwing flash grenades at me while i'm trying to protest peacefully. i don't want that any more. i've seen journalists locked up. i don't want that any more. i want everyone doing the right thing, not have so much sensationalism. >> have you been able to figure out the police response? they try this one day, the ferguson police department is pulled off the scene. the state highway patrol, and maybe i'm seeing in some of the newspapers here particularly in the post dispatch that this is really the first time that this town and this community has had to deal with anything like this, and if you haven't dealt with something like this, it's sometimes hard to figure it out on the fly. >> right. >> and it seems like we're seeing calculation and recalculation and a new plan. that's got to be a little bit disconcerting because you're getting mixed messages from night tonight as to how to

behave and how to conduct peaceful demonstrations. >> right. i like the recall placing. if you see something is not working let's change this immediately. we can start with the flash point of mike brown. we can already tell there is a contentious relationships between the community and law enforcement, and it continues to escalate. we need to try some different techniques. i think what people don't always understand is what is going on in the crowd. i've been out there every single night since saturday since mike brown was shot, and there's always some new element going on. you always have people--some people come armed. there are people who want a physical confrontation. >> that has nothing to do with mike brown. >> right, right. i understand how it would draw the element of people who are angry about racial profiling and police brutality and harassment. this is not a vengeance session that we're supposed to be having. >> let's talk about tomorrow. a week after tonight with little

balance behavior. what are your thoughts about tomorrow? the attorney general is coming here to get an update on the parallel investigation that is going on with the justice department. what are your hopes for that visit, and how significant is that visit with ferguson. >> well, as i've been talking people who are protesting or coming out to watch, they want to make sure that this case gets the attention that it deserves. with the attorney general coming, they're pleased. they don't want to see this swept underneath the rug. they don't want another police cover up. they want justice. any officer involved. we all want to know what happened in this case. by bringing the attorney general i know it has made people feel better. also i know county prosecutor has started the process to a grand jury. people want to see this move,

not just sit on someone's desk. we've had enough of that. that's movement that i think that's going to help create another peaceful evening. >> committee woman bynes. thank you. >> thank you. >> one of the issues that committee woman is going to be working on, i'm speaking on your behalf, you didn't say this to me, but i'm sure it's something that you'll be working on, the idea of what the police force here in ferguson looks like moving forward, and the idea of policing and having some kind of community involvement. one thing you notice when you arrive on the ground, as i did just hours ago, there are people in the community talking at one another, not to one another. jonathan betz talks about community peacing to the community. >> that's a big concern because so much angers that been directed at the police department in ferguson. and other cities can offer lessons to that town.

chiefs who have faced angry crowds and cautioned their first response may not be the best. the rage in ferguson has been felt before. in cities like seattle in 1999. then thousands protests outside of the world trade organization meeting. armored police responded with tear gas and rubber bullets. the city's chief at the time now admits it was a bad idea. >> it is sure to backfire. it will, in fact, radicalize otherwise peaceful protesters. big, big mistake. >> reporter: a lesson he worries too often ignored like in ferguson where the national guard has been called in. and the police have repeatedly changed tactics as they try to end days of violence. >> these peace officers were called. >> reporter: officers should change their entire approach speaking more with protesters and putting away the heavy

equipment. >> if they embraced community policing and work as partners with the citizens. they don't work as an occupational force as an enemy of the citizens. >> reporter: as an example, after hurricane katrina, in missouri he said he would repeat his famous message first given to soldiers in new orleans. >> i would hope i would say that day. put your guns down. we're here to help people. >> reporter: he suggest more town halls to let the public vent. hands off approach to protest, and said the city needs a stea steady, calming leader. >> they have a leader, he should have the number one communications guy that belong to the governor right there with him. >> reporter: ferguson leaders have tried marching with protesters and they have urged patience. >> the vast majority of my community, i would put that

number in the 95th percentile is supportive of what we've been doing. >> reporter: because others clearly are not and say that peace will only come with change. >> it will not go away unless the police as an institution embrace the idea that they belong to the people, not the other way around. >> reporter: another consideration ferguson's small size. larger cities tend to be more experienced with crowds, have better communication with the community and frankly a little more media savvy. >> we'll take a moment here and bring in damon kay jones, the new york representative for blacks in law enforcement of america. good to see you. as we have our conversation, guys, let's roll in the pictures here from, and i want you to take a look with me, damon, of the police, how they're postured

tonight, how it's different, and then certainly last night and other nights as this crisis and this flash point has played out on television screens all across america, and certainly again tonight. i want you to analyze what you are taking a look at here. my pointed question to you is at various times it seems to me that the authorities have been trying to figure it out on the fly, calculating, recalculating, calibrating, recalibrating. talk to us about what you've seen over the last 10, going on 11 days now. >> well, from the beginning it looked like chaos on both sides. like there wasn't any leadership from the police end and from the community and coordinating the marchs and the rallies. what you see here today is you see a much more calm atmosphere.

you see the police are a little more relaxed. they are not standing in defensive positions. they're allowing the crowd to move through peacefully, and it seems like they're working together. understanding that the people have the right to march. they have the right to move through the city, and they're just allowing it to go through, and making sure that everybody is safe. >> damon, is this a classic case of figuring it out as you go along? because it's hard to know what to do if you haven't been in this situation before. and reading a lot of the accounts here in the local media, this area certainly ferguson and the police here have never had to deal with anything like this. so is there an element of figuring it out along the way? >> well, yes, from a small town like that having the world watching how they handle the

situation of the killing of mike brown, yes, it looks like it was a learning process for them to really understand and get their message across that they wanted a working community to come together. but also i think it was a big mistake to let out the video because when the captain on thursday, that he showed that he was a party of the community. he came from the community, and then when the video came out it seemed to ignite all the frustrations again that led to what we saw in the last few days, the last few nights. >> sure, and what are your thoughts about the national guard being called in. they're staging right behind us, and our understand something that they're essentially in a support role, but the idea of coming in the national guard certainly has the net effect of

militarizing this operation, this response. >> well, i mean, the national guard was brought in to really protect the rights of the people also because you see the posture of the police and the history of the relations with the police department, and the commune. i think it was a good idea to bring the national guard outside in to make sure everything is fair and balanced. >> well, david, i appreciate your time. thank you very much. terrific analysis. you know, damon mentioned mike brown. i got to tell you that we haven't spoken a lot or certainly not enough about mike brown certainly over the past few days when we've been tracking the progress of the protest and whether or not it's staying peaceful or if it had evolved into unrest. but there was a moment earlier on air where joie chen had an opportunity. she's host of america tonight,

to speak about mike brown and his life with his art teacher. here's that before. >> so as a treat in my classroom i would play my son's beats, and if the kids were really quiet they got to listen to that. michael was that student who would always say, be quiet, be quiet, so we can hear the beats. >> while we're talking about students and mike brown being a student and the schools here in this area a number of the districts have been closed because of the civil unrest. what do you do when you have a number of students who should be in school from last thursday, and now it looks like the schools will remain closed in this area until next monday. what do you do with these students? well, a lot of parents and a lot of teachers are turning this moment and taking the story of the civil unrest that is happening here, and turning it into a teaching moment. here's natasha. >> reporter: in the middle of

the now familiar signs that protesters carried this one on monday evening caught our eye. for the first time since the unres began in ferguson fifth grade teacher juanita shaw and her 16-year-old son decided to join the protesters. her signs asked a simple question: can we have peace so i can teach? >> this is stopping them from moving forward. >> reporter: the school year in ferguson was supposed to begin last week. now it won't start until next monday at the earliest. that's put morgue stress on local teachers, parents and students. most students rely on free or reduced meals, and teachers say that children experience a learning lose in summer months and that is more pronounced in minority kids. >> it's not going to help to lose ground. >> reporter: shaw's 16-year-old

son admits its nice to have an extra week to prepare for school but the reason for the delay has him concerned. he and his mother has been talking about the shooting. he worries about what will happen, and whether officer darren wilson will be charged. he said that events of the last week has taught him very real lessons. >> fighting for what is right, and not going to extremes just to show what they believe in. talk and you'll be heard. >> reporter: his mother says she's ready for the city of ferguson to move past its anger. >> i'll be glad when this is over, and we can go back to being peaceful and working together, and getting things accomplished, you know, in this area. >> reporter: natasha, al jazeera, ferguson, missouri. >> as we get to break we wanted to show you some of the pictures right now, and as we do, the

story that we've been follow something one of whether these demonstrations, these protests tonight would remain peaceful. so far so good. we're hearing the chanting but the police posture is decidedly different from last night and the night before, so on, so forth. the police seem to be in a more relaxed posture right now. they're in their squad cars as opposed to being in those vehicles, the militarized armed vehicles where they were paroling the streets take a look at this point. you see the vehicles, you see some of the unmarked vehicles as well. and then you see the protesters and demonstrators walking up and down the street. many with smiles on their faces. let's do this. we'll take a break. there is much more to come right here in ferguson, missouri. this is al jazeera america. back in a moment. when you run a business, you can't settle for slow.

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>> welcome to al jazeera america. i'm tony harris for john seigenthaler, who has the night off. let's take a look at the live pictures here about a quarter mile from the command center. we'll take you down the avenue. where it has been a largely peaceful night. it must be said it's been a peaceful day, a peaceful night so far. the police, you have to say, have taken a decidedly different posture, and there are a couple of factors at work here. robert ray is standing by. robert can comment on this as well. there were comments from the captain of the state police in the overnight hours of this morning after a very difficult

night. by all accounts a very difficult night last night. robert, you can walk us through this. there were pointed comments and really a plea from captain johnson for specific behavior from protesters who were demonstrating peacefully. so much so that three hours ago they came out of this intersection, came out of the car and did basically a hand to hand conversation with protesters and media. he was very open about his conversations with people and he wanted to make sure that everyone just took a step down and took a breath. so i do think that stuff like that by him has helped. you hear the protesters behind you right now. by the way, the skirmish that we talked about a half hour ago. david douglas our producer walked out there. it was a fight between two guys. it's not worth report be at this

point. everything is back to normal as young people walk up and down the street. but i'm going to bring in a couple of guests here. these two gentlemen, you drove from michigan and you're from chicago. you came here at 10:00 a.m. this morning. >> mm-hmm. >> why did you come here? >> we wanted to help out. it's tough watching it on tv and social media and not being able to do anything. i had time off work that i was planning to use for vacation, why not try to help someone else, that's why i'm down here. >> we're hearing a lot of reports out the number of people arrested, most are not from ferguson, i've been talking to you from the past five minutes, you're pretty good guys i can tell this thanksgiving right away. what is your ultimate goal marching with everyone? >> absolutely. we just want to support the local community and make sure that i was actually here so i could see everything for myself. >> what is the importance for

you two young men to see here? >> well, as a black man in the united states michael brown is near and dear to my heart, trayvon martin, we could go down the list. i see these young boys and men as my little brothers, my little cousins, so i want to hopefully make sure that michael brown is the last young black male killed by a police officer. >> let me ask you this, do you feel racial tension in america, be honest with me, do you? >> there definitely is. it's inescapable. you go on facebook. i have friends of all races, and i can feel it in a post that someone makes. it's palpable. out here it's palpable. but at the same time we were at a protest just today down in--where were we at? by the prosecuting attorney's

office. there were people of all race there is, whites, asians, latinos, and we were all protesting together. at the same time while there is racial tension, there are situation where is people are coming together of different races and you can see that your neighbors actually care. >> what is it that white people in america don't understand about what happened here and about black people? >> i think its just the fact that black people have been kept down so long. you can look at--there are a number of things, prison rates, things like that, the length and terms that black people serve for similar crimes to a white person, generally longer for a black person. when things like this happen its tough because we feel like we have no voice. that's why there are people out here marching. if they didn't march no one would do anything. the cop that shot him would get off scott free. we don't exactly what happened, but there would be no investigation without this. >> we don't know exactly what

happened, but we do want to find out. >> exactly. >> cat ability. >> at capability. what about you. what don't whea white people understand. >> i don't to be stark about that, we could have a conversation, you and me. he can have an individual conversation, but we need to have clear real conversations about race in america. that needs to be forefront and needs to be truthful. i think as it relates to what is going on here i think my brothers have stated we believe a black cop would have already been charged if he shot someone. so there is disparity there. that may be something that they don't understand. and the people of ferguson are tired. we talk to folks who are in ferguson, this is not some one-day type thing. that's why they're still out here. they really want their

communities to be different. >> guys, i appreciate it. i appreciate it very much. these two gentlemen from michigan and chicago. good honest candor, thanks. tony, great stuff. we listened to many of the protesters, it's palpable. it's unbelievable to listen to. that brings up the notion that we need to talk more to each other. >> well, i think you said it right there, robert. that's terrific conversation first and foremost, but i will tell you you have been here in ferguson a lot longer than i have been, i will tell you when we arrived it took all but 15 minutes to happen upon a conversation, a heated conversation to your point where people were talking at one another, and not talking to one another. this was a white motorist and a young black man who was being interviewed by a television outfit in another way. why that ended up in a confrontation, i have no idea,

but it reinforces your point that there needs to be more conversation between members of this community. i want to introduce you to a young man who i met in that first 15-minute period when we were on the ground. his name is arty johnson, arty is a football coach here. he doesn't have his players on the field right now because of what's going on here, but arty, it was terrific talking to you today. you and your guys are doing something amazing for the community. we want you on the program to talk about it. you've got your players out here. they're actually delivering food--no, let me shut up. you tell me what you have your players doing. >> well, some of the church leaders set up an organization down at ground zero where you have the scene. >> canfield. >> they have got food, toiletry, so i signed the kids up to come

out here and help. tomorrow we're going to come out and do our due diligence and help the elderly who can't get their stuff. >> now why are you doing this? >> it's the cause. it is what it is. a lot of our youth are lost. they don't have anybody who knows how to bring them out of that. >> this was part of our conversation today. >> yes, they're lost. i see it as a football coach. i see it. i see some of my players look in the stands when their mom and dads aren't there. they can't focus because that's all think want. a lot of that is in the streets as well. they just need someone to care for them. >> but there's one thing--it's one thing to know that these kids may be lost, and you're trying to fill a void. you may not see it that way, but you know you're in a leadership position, you know that. but it's another to recruit them and say, look, we're going to do this for this community. did you have to do any arm

twisting? >> not at all. when the kids respect you, they'll do anything for you. you ask them, and whatever you need, coach. >> right, i've got to ask you about a conversation that we had, a part of the conversation that we had earlier. i asked you if you are at all surprised that we are seeing--you remember this, rig right?--we're seeing this civil unrest in this city, you said nope. >> no, not at all. >> tell everyone who is watching why you gave me that response. >> well, i said we're middle american. all the southern cities, all the southern towns. they've had their fights, their race riots, desegregation of schools and colleges. we've never seen it. the people here, you know, they stay in their lanes. white people in one lane, and people of other races they're scattered here and there. and nobody crosses that lane

it's fearful on both sides. nobody is used to it. >> white people and black people in this area can essentially live most of theirs life with very little contact with a member of the other race. that's the kind of silo you're talking about here. >> that's exactly it is. >> wow, arty, i want to bring in darrell parks, the attorney for the brown family, he's in new york city, and i want to bring in my colleague, randall pinkston, who has been a terrific correspondent for years and this man has a rich history of covering major events and have them both join this conversation. darrell, let me start with you. michael brown's mother did at least one interview earlier today. i want you to talk about her message to this community. i would subject the community

that she loves, she's been following the events here. i know she has expressed displeasure with the violence, and she's hoping the focus can come back to justice for her son's death. >> without question. she's very focused on, one, grieving with her family. but, two, she wants to see this officer held accountable for what he did to her son. there was no reason that michael brown should have been killed the way he was killed. she really, really wants justice desperately. however, as we announced earlier today we plan to have his service on monday. they're preparing for that day. as you know, that day will be a very, very tough day for them. they will have a lot of emotion. it will mean a lot as we give him a proper send off for his life. >> are you happy with the track of the investigation at this point? i think we talked about it

yesterday or the day before. as you know the attorney general is coming to this area to oversee and get an update on the investigation. we understand that it's on dual tracks now, the county is conducting its investigation. the fbi is here as well. we understand that the fbi has been canvassing the area and has conducted up to 200 interviews, some of them are new interviews. i wonder if--what is your take on the course of the investigation as you know also testimony will be offered up to a grand jury starting tomorrow. >> first let me deal with the federal investigation. i happened to be part of the initial meeting that took place last week. there were two meetings that took place last week where representatives from the missouri attorney office was on its way with the department of civil rights division, they

introduced themselves, and then i certainly played a part when the agents interviewed the mother already. that is moving forward. so when the four agents showed up we were already under way in terms of the investigation. we were very pleased, and this family has all the confidence in the world that the fed also do a thorough investigation. and i heard 200 people have been interviewed. the rule is you don't report out anything. think about what happened earlier today or yesterday, i should say, when we had a report from the st. louis post dispatch who commented that there were a dozen witnesses who supported the officer's version, which was corroborated, allegedly, by someone within the state

investigation. that shouldn't have taken place. the reporter shouldn't have reported that, and that alleged confidential information should not have taken place. i've since heard that they recounted all of it. that's why we don't have the distrust of all the authorities. if that person did work for the dispatch, then distrust for the local papers as well. this is why the feds are so important. every day we've had some issue through the locals that cause to you have some lack of confidence in that process locally. >> well, do you see, tony, if you'll allow me-- >> darrell, absolutely. i was just about to come to you. but jump right in. >> just a question about the investigation and how it's proceeding. we know the grand jury, we know how it's currently impaneled that it only meets wednesday?

is it possible for them to panel a special grand jury for this particular case? and if so what is your legal expertise telling you why it's not being done. >> i think it's this, randall, we believe there is evidence there where it's based on the witnesses and the initial autopsy to charge this officer. >> you don't have to go to a grand jury. >> they can go to a grand jury, but we think they should indict. this grand jury pretty much has no choice than to at least find probable cause based on the statements of the witnesses. >> what about the once aweek grand jury meeting? it seems to me to be stretchin stretchinstretching it out. >> well, i happen to be doing some work in your homestead in mississippi where grand juries meet every six months. so once a week is pretty good in

most situations. we agree in this situation that we find ourselves, that it's a great public importance, that it be expeditiously done for public safety. >> okay, back to you, tony. >> yes, i appreciate that so much, randall, darrell, good to see you again. we started this segment with arty, i want to end it with arty here, at least this discussion. arty, what's the reaction of your players? your young men to the events of the last 10-11 days? >> honestly, my kids are clueless. i teach freshmen, so they're just kind of like, they're watching the news. they don't know what's going on. they're so young, they're so green to the situation, so it's my duty to teach, educate from the forefront, about our forefathers, what they went through. i got a mixture of kids. i got asian, black, africaen,

and it's a melting pot of youth, and we got to get it to them. >> arty, great seeing you. it's a pleasure. great running into you today. i think we've been saying throughout the evening. roxana saberi has been following the international reaction to the events here in ferguson. here's her report. >> reporter: we're currently in ferguson where tensions have been flying high. the images broadcast are nonstop in america and also being seen around the world. they cited the police response to the protest as evidence of human rights violations in america the riots have given america's critics to accuse washington of bureaucracy. iran's states-run press tv is

doing just that saying the america has no rights to blame others of human rights abuses while abusing them at home. >> while turning a blind eye to the rights of its own citizens. >> we go all over the air promoting democracy and fairness. >> reporter: media in iran have covered the riots extensively, at times comparing the suffering of people in ferguson to the palestinians in gaza. and they even took to social media saying the flag of human rights is being carried by those who are the biggest violators themselves. and even in countries close to the u.s. some media are criticizing the government's response to the skirmishes. in this canadian newspaper the author writes the sad events in

the st. louis suburb allow us to ponder how we do things differently and to realize how comparatively well things work here. the obama administration responded to the international criticism and defended it's human rights record and said the u.s. addresses its problems openly and other countries should, too. >> thank you, roxana saberi. we go to the editor for "eboni" magazine. she's with us tonight, and she's just back for having visited ferguson, missouri. what did you find there? what impression did you come back with foremost in your mind? >> i think its important to know that for all the images of unrest and anger that the people of ferguson, their hearts are broken. there's a great deal of sadness there. the majority of the people who are out there are protesting and

remembering this young man and mourning peacefully. i don't think we should allow images of fighting and violence being largely executed. >> do you have any sense of what percentage the community are actually participating in the demonstrations? do you have any sense of how--how widespread the active involvement on the part of the ferguson community. >> there are 20,00 20,000 people in ferguson. there were lots of people on the streets but not the entire community. there is a a sense of you can't

escape it. the sense of lot is unpalpable. >> we see people from different racial backgrounds. do we know whether those people are--let's just be blunt about it, caucasians? are they from that area? or are they from outside of ferguson? did you meet white folks who are just as concerned as african-americans are about what happened to michael brown? >> i certainly met white people who are out there, frustrated and hurt and feel a sense of duty to be out there and to protest what they--what we feel to be an injustice. i did not get the sense that most of them were from ferguson. many of them were from missouri and a lot were from illinois. there were people from new york and other parts of the world. the majority of the protesters however, are african-american, and it's important that we

emphasize that. >> how has social media played a role in this protest? >> you know, social media, primarily twitter has been a space where people from all creeds and colors and countries have been able to come together and commiserate and to mourn and share outrage. it's been an amazing community i think for many of us who are struggling to process what's happened so far, and to make sure that we're able to stay abreast of what's happening next. >> one of my colleagues refers to a segment of twitter that she calls black twitter. do you see any particular difference in the way this story is playing out based on who is doing the tweeting? >> you know, i think that people who are on the ground are obviously more likely to tweet accurate information than people who are either being

deliberately provocative, or wanting to disrupt the conversation for their own purposes, or who are simply want to go share information but they're getting misinformation from members of the media or rumors being spread. i think that we know that african-americans are on twitter and we're very active on there, and it's been a tool for mobilizing. it's been a tool for bringing people together. there was a point where i was outside of the ferguson police department, and it took a few minutes to realize that i knew all of them through twitter than did i in purpose. i've been talking with them online for years, and it's unfortunate that this tragedy brought us to the same place at the same time. it certainly goes to show you that it's not just twitter. it's not just the internet. >> thank you very much for sharing your reflections. we'll look forward to hearing more from you in the coming days. >> thank you. >> coming up, some of the day's other top headlines.

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