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lap >> the department of defense sounds the lawyer on the islamic state , alberto gonzalez joins us. i'm antonio mora, those stories and much more straight ahead. >> jarring language from administration officials about islamic state. >> oh this is beyond anything that we've seen. so we must prepare for everything. >> the temperatures are rising in the wake of that gruesome
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murder of james foley. foley's captors offered to release him in exchange for hundreds of millions of dollars in ransom. >> we do not exchange for captives, we do not pay ransom. >> dr. kent brant ly and dr. nancy writebol have rejoined their families. >> people have no confidence in his ability to be fair and impartial. >> an israeli air strike has killed three senior commanders of the hamas military wing. >> the super bowl is looking to sell the senate start for an undisclosed amount. super bowl xlix. >> we begin with the growing
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3rd to america and the west from the islamic state group in syria and iraq. at the pentagon thursday defense secretary chuck hagel, warned that i.s. presents more of a threat to america. >> they are beyond a terrorist group. they marry ideology, traffic and military prowess. they are tremendously well funded. oh, this is beyond what we've seen. >> hagel's comments after officials say delta force command os, failed ocapture james foley, held by i.s. terrorists for almost two years. video showed foley beheaded by a british
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i.s. being commando. p.j, once the u.s. started pounding i.s. force he in iraq with air traction an strikes. and i.s. beheading which we will not show, even though speaker spoke in english and threatened the u.s. what is i.s. trying to do? >> well certainly it was trying to shock the west, it succeeded in doing that. it's rightly called barbaric and it's offensive to western ers and will strengthen the threat that i.s. faces. i think it's also offensive to a majority of muslims that do not want to live in that kind of societal. addressed to primarily that sliver of
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malcontents, in the middle east and in the west, the narrator of the video, that entice them to come to syria, come to iraq and join the i.s. jihad. >> as you said, moa most muslims will react like most of us are, couldn't there be a backlash, most muslims don't want to live in a medieval society like these terrorists want. >> that is an optimistic term. just like al qaeda in iraq did back in 2006, 2007. remember, i.s. is such a brutal group that even al qaeda itself you know disowned its membership in the movement. what's most intriguing about this video, antonio, is that near the end, it convey is the fact that it considers itself a
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real state . it beings accuses united states are from interfering in the internal affairs of the islamic caliphate, it's trying to present itself primarily to the muslim world as a de facto state and a force to be reckoned with in the middle east for an i indefinite period of time. >> what do you think the u.s., may have even hoped to declare a formal end of the war on terror sometime this year. but here is part of what the president had to say about i.s. after the foley video was released. >> the united states of america will continue to do what we must do to protect our people. we will be vigilant and we will be relentless. >> and secretary of state kerry followed with a tweet saying i.s.i.l. must are destroyed, will be crushed. so it sounds like the war on terror if anything is going to
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intensify and shouldn't it? >> well, the reality is, it hats been evolving. -- has been evolving. the administration has acknowledged that but it is in fact enlarging in the sense that what, as chuck hagel said today, we have to put this in context, as an insurgent group, as a terrorist group it has gone well beyond what we have seen in the past. it holds a fairly significant chunk of territory between syria and iraq and has demonstrated the ability to actually govern that territory. by the same token i.s. is not ten feet tall. there are a number of fighters still relatively modest compared to the resources available to a state like iraq or even a state like syria. they can be impacted militarily. you've seen the effectiveness of the u.s. strikes in pushing i.s. back from the mosul dam for example
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and giving kurdish forces a chance to regroup and retake territory. i actually think that ultimately the islamic state will be defeated politically with a corresponding military strategy. and this is ultimately as the united states is saying, primarily iraq's challenge in that side of the border, that if the iraqi government governs effectively, if the new government makes meaningful adjustments and reforms and how it interacts with all of the communities within iraq, that's going to be far more decisive than the level of military force that we have applied to the challenge so far. >> quick final question. are you concerned? you mentioned al qaeda, you mentioned how they initially disinherited these people because of their brutality, but now we've we have iraq in the asian peninsula, but now all this territory and all this money.
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>> well, there is a lot of coordination, there's a lot of interaction. there may be tactical areas in which a group here will support a group there. by the same token as a movement, the islamic state is actually a rival to al qaeda. how long this cooperation lasts remains to be seen. but obviously, the longer that i.s. is able to hold territory, the more it's able to conduct itself as a state, the more it's able to attract meaningful resources either through donations or through raiding banks as we've seen in the context of iraq, they become a fact of life in the middle east and they can become a force that any actor in the middle east will have to reckon with. >> lot to worry about. p.j. crowelly, goo crowelly. good to see you. >> thank you antonio. the life of another american
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journalist steven sotloff depends on your action. short of a rescue operation that's unlikely in part while some european nations will pay millions in ransom for their citizens the u.s. does not. joining us here in new york is pulitzer prize winning david rhode, who was kidnapped in 2008. did america's policy on ransom contribute to james foley's killing. david, always good to have you with us. again the u.s. doesn't pay ransom, other countries however do and in this story including in your case the u.s. didn't pay a ransom. you're arguing that there should be a broader debate among western nations about what should be done in these circumstances? >> yeah, i just want to say up front i don't have a sort of simple answer. there are no easy answers in these cases but the problem here
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is there were french journalists and english journalists, that were ransomed, sotloff is facing death and james died in a terrible way. i'm calling on this to come out of the shadows. the european government denied making these payments, they're intermediaries. i don't think the current approach is working with very large ransoms from certain countries and u.s. and britain and canada saying no ransoms. >> we warrant our people back desperately but at the same time we don't want to pay ransoms that could finance further terrorist acts. we did a segment on this a couple of years ago with a new york times reporter who went deeply into this. she says at least $125 million
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since 2008 have gone to al qaeda and its affiliates. spain, switzerland, al qaeda may have gotten $66 million in one year alone and u.s. government figures are even higher than this. these are big numbers for these terrorists. >> the record seems to be a french owned company paid $foirts $40million for hostages in niger. if a news organization or an oil company can pay aoransom it will go to a terrorist group which is technically material support to a terrorist organization illegal but the american government looks the other way. the problem is when governments pay it sets the market price so high, $10 million you know -- >> private individuals can't do it.
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>> i spoke you know with the foley family particularly in the last few months and they were frantic because they could not raise the money. another detail that's come out today is that the initial request from the islamic state for foley's release was for 1 million euros which was for $1 -- -- 130 million euros which was $100 million. >> the demand from i.s. to them, the be bowe bergdahl issue, the u.s. has negotiated before, it's given muslim extremist prisoners over in exchange for our people so why doesn't your leader does that for james foley? >> one of the strange things about my captivity was how much the taliban wanted the united
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states to negotiate them to recognize them as sort of a legitimate group of or organization or even state and there's a sense that also is at play with the islamic state. but again i mean what kind of group are we talking about? what they did to jim, what stephen sotloff had to watch, i mean these are unarmed journalists. these are not courageous fighters. they take unarmed people, hold them prisoner and publicly murder jim foley. >> what should be done? again it's terrible. it really seems like americans are going to be the greatest victims in this and couldn't it encourage them to go after americans, knowing they could get this tremendous publicity? aside from the fact that they are going to be getting the money from the other people, that they could get the horrible propaganda out of america? >> another journalist heard, who knows what they think but they view europeans as a source of
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money, that's why they agriculture the europeans and the americans could be a source of publicity. >> what should the u.s. do? should it not affect our policy when it comes to going after the islamic state extremists? >> if the u.s. is serious there should be more public criticism, more private criticism, france has won over $50 million in ransom, there has to be some sort of public agreement, it's difficult to get there but there needs to be more public debate. israel exchanged a thousand prisoners for one soldier. this is all local, all politics is local, you know there is an expectation in france that the state will do something to help a french citizen that's kidnapped. in the united states, you are completely on your own, not completely on your own but again all i'm saying is we have to debate this. the problem is getting worse.
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they're getting huge amounts of funding and the current approach is not working. >> our hearts go out to the foley family, the sotloff family and the other journalists who are being held captive by these extremists. david, thank you for being here. >> thank you. >> now for other stories around the world. we begin in washington, d.c, where attorney general eric holder announced thursday that bank of america has agreed to pay $16.65 billion in a settlement for its role in the 2008 financial crisis. >> as a part of this settlement bank of america has acknowledged that in the years leading up to the financial crisis that devastated our economy in 2008, it, merrill lynch and countrywide sold billions of dollars of rmbs backed toxic loans, whose quality they knowingly misrepresented to
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investors and to the united states government. >> next we go to thailand where the general who led the military overthrow of the thai government in may has just been named prime minister. he was elected 50 national legislative assembly who was hand picked by the junta. most thais seem to be accepting military rules, preerveg the year preferring the current situation opposed to years prior to it. luhansk and donetske are under siege with luhansk under government control. meanwhile, the russian convoy is prepared to enter ukraine. it is uncertain when the trucks will finally reach ukraine. and that's some of what's
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happening around the world. coming up a former attorney general bl alberto gonzalez joins me. then an israeli air strike kills three senior hamas mill 30 leaders, is hamas on the verge of and our social media producer, hermela aregawi is are checking the social media. >> is the federal government doing enough? the details coming up and while you're watching let us know what you think. join the conversation on twitter >> al jazeera america presents >> just because you're pregnant, don't mean you're life's ended. >> 15 stories one incredible journey edge of eighteen premiers september 7th only on al jazeera america
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and-k crematoriums are overwhelmed. government imposed a quarantine on the whole neighborhood. joining us is dr. sema the yasmin. writes for dallas morning news and formerly worked at the cdc as a disease detective. doctor, the two americans have been released from the hospital. it's incredible, two weeks ago they were so sick they were taking experimental drugs, now they're walking out of the hospital. is it a helpful sign that really good care can significantly lower the ebola mortality rate? >> absolutely. but it's a painful reminder that the lack of what we consider very basic medical care, so you mentioned the experimental treatment that the two americans have received, but what they've
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had in emory university for the past two weeks, iv fluids, routine care here, but having spoken to the doctors in weark, west africa, some of them don't even have running water. >> some doctors are scared to work. you mentioned the experimental serum that both nancy writebol and kent brantly received. given that six people have received it, two have recovered, three have shown signs of improvement, one has died. do you think that played a role? >> this is really hard to say. this wasn't a scientific experiment or a protocol driven clinical trial. this was a desperate movement. the spanish person who was air lifted back to europe also received good medical care alongside that experimental
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treatment. so it's very hard to say without a clinical trial what experiment am role that treatment played. >> an ebola survivor, that also complicates things we don't know if that helped. >> exactly, that does complicate the situation. and that's a type of treatment for ebola that we've used since the '70s and '80s is giving patients with ebola the blood of those who survived and giving them a chance of infection. again he was air lifted, received the experimental treatment and a transfusion, which one of those played with his recovery we don't know. >> 1350 deaths in liberia, hospitals closed, bodies not accepted in crematoriums.
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clinic was looted and 17 expected patients escaped for a while. led to protests. the w.h.o. says this is going ostay months to control. doctors without borders says it's a catastrophe. do you think this will get worse before it gets better? >> it's so hard to say. and it really depends on which specific country you look at in west africa. for example in nigeria, the w.h.o. has called that situation reassuring. there have been 12 patients diagnosed with ebola. all linked in some kind of way. but in liberia, there have been violence, conflicts are fueling this situation, so it's really a different situation in a different country. >> let's talk about the u.s. hospital he have been very vigilant over the past three weeks, the cdc has been alerted to a possible 68 ebola cases from 27 states. these are people mostly
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traveling here from west africa. of that amount 58 were deemed false alarms, seven blood samples tested negative on top of that and results are pending on three others. do you think at some point we are going osee a real case show up before this is all over? >> it's not impossible. but it's highly unlikely and the reassuring thing is that doctors are doing the right thing. they are taking a good travel history for patients with fever and they are contacting the cdc, they are quarantining that patient. if we see one to five case is of ebola in the u.s. it is very, very unlikely to spread and actually cause an outbreak here. >> doctor, thank you for bringing us your thoughts. coming up getting the half time gig at the super bowl is a big deal but now nfl wants bands to pay for the honor. but first we'll take a walk down hollywood boulevard as we
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>> today's data dive takes a stroll on the hollywood walk of fame. on thursday, latin american los tigres received what has become a right of passage for the stars, a permanent place in hollywood. the rules are pretty simple. a fan has to nominate the celebrity. then the star has to be approved by industry categories of radio live performance television or radio. five years to pick a date for the ceremony. george clooney is among those who was picked but never picked a date. it is possible to get a star in more than one category. the singing cowboy has most, one in each of the five categories. the honor doesn't come cheap. there's a
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$30,000 fee for maintenance the amount is usually paid by fans or record labels. stars go to other than real people, mickey mouse, kermit the frog godzilla and the munch kins . walk of fame, name whose glamour is important aaround the world, that's a quote. controversy and bruise eeg egos followed, of course. chaplain finally got a star in 1952. first eight stars installed
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>> is the nfl going to make musicians pay their way into starring in the super bowl half time show? but first, the 66th annual emmy award show is days away and there's a big controversy about what shows should be in what categories. let's bring in al jazeera culture critic bill wyman. some shows are in the wrong categories, and calling into question the validity of all shows. orange is the new black, shameless which is relentlessly depressing and they're both competing as come dis. that messes up the act categories too. what's the deal? >> well, it's that everyone, we're talking about hollywood
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here. everyone in hollywood is gs going to fight for whatever advantage they can. that's what they for a living and of course what they do when the rules are a bit fungible. you can nominate your show, your performance in whatever category you can get away with and that's what they're doing. to their credit i mean there is an element of black humor to some of these shows but boy they're really dark but basically the rules allow them to do this and of course in hollywood you will take advantage of what these are. >> if it looks like a duck walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, they can figure out whether it's a drama or comedy. competing as a drama series, what's the deal there? >> that's the same thing. you've got people who are very sophisticated and calling oddibles at an individual time.
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let's remember, it's a really great time for tv right now, there's a really lot of great shows competing for the emmy, particularly in the dramas more than comedy, but obviously hbo is very good at the emmy game, they get more than anyone else. they put true detective there they have very, very tough competition, against the last half season of breaking bad. >> best guest actress, she's a regular cast member of this show. so a guest star when she's a regular cast member, really seems like the academy has to write cooler rules. >> i think we talked about these during the nominations. they always get it wrong, the critics. everyone agrees on oscars,
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there's not a whole bunch of early predictors, really emmys that have been awarded show that original is the new black and true detective is a good harbinger on sunday night. house of cards taking home a lot of emmys boy is there a big shakeup in the tv industry, not coming from the traditional tv networks. >> it still airs on nbc this year but probably going to be very depressing for tv networks because they're not going to get many awards. super bowl, the nfl is considering rihanna, katy perry and cold play, apparently they are asked to pay a percentage they earned on tour after the super bowl. have you ever been heard of musicians being charged to pay a gig? isn't the nfl getting a ratings boost by having a top star
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playing half time? >> absolutely. we have heard about this before, it's called pay to play, some of the looks clubs around sunset boulevard back in the day, you would have to get your friends come in and buy liquor from the same club. the whole super bowl show has been way too hyped. the players are lip syncing in the first place. the network brings them in and pays for their expenses and things but to get some money of i.t., i find it hard to believe that katy perry will pay, and cold play isn't that big of a band, can you see them paying for privilege. >> they might get a boost. nfl looking for more money as if they need it. bill wyman, thank you. >> thank you antonio. >> that's it for now. the conversation continues, on our facebook or google plus
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