also after eric holder's group to ferguson, former attorney general alberto gonzalez on what he thinks the role should be. follow us on facebook or google plus, you can find us on twitter @ajconsiderthis and tweet me @amoratv. we'll see you next time. fp bls. >> hello everybody this is al jazeera america. i'm david schuster in new york. john siegenthaler has the night off. just ahead. assessing a threat from the islamic state group. the obamacare white house reacts to the pentagon's take that it's worse than al qaeda before 9/11. russia moves convoy trucks into eastern ukraine without permission. moscow insists the trucks are carrying aid, kyiv is not so sure and calls it an invasion.

in ferguson trying to get back to life as usual. plus app developers want to help drivers find parking but there's a catch. prompting cities to put on the break. and the fate of wild horses in wyoming. there are new allegations the federal government is now causing more harm than good. we begin this hour in washington where leaders weighing the threat of the islamic state group and how far the u.s. military should go to stop it. the group is responsible for the grizzly murder of american journalist james foley. in less than a year fighters have taken huge chunks of iraq and syria by force, trying to establish their own country. and warnings by the pentagon,

over the strength of the islamic state, and the president's national security advisor today, also tried to down play growing concerns about another 9/11. >> to date we have not seen them focus on that type of planning. but that doesn't mean we're not going to be very mindful that they could quickly aim to pivot to astack against western targets outside the region. >> mike viqueria joins us now from washington and mike how significant is it that the president's deputy national security advisor is now seeming to underscore the possibility of u.s. military attacks inside syria? >> david i like the way you phrase that because context and events mean everything in this situation. ever since the president in june allowed for the fact that u.s. military strikes could go forward, with the caveat that the political situation in baghdad had to be straightened out, left open the possibility

that they could theoretically strike within syria. over the last 24 to 48 hours that has become a lot more year. we heard the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff david point out, if the islamic state group is going to be routed out of syria, that is going to take an effort on the part of the force he on the ground, the indigenous forces and not combat boots on the ground for the american forces. whether or not that can happen and still realize that american policy goal that remains to be seen. but careful nuances from ben rhodes, the deputy military advisor, he was asked if the u.s. had plans to commence strikes inside syria, quote we are actively considering what would be necessary to protect americans and borders. we are not going to be restricted by whatever borders

still exist between iraq and syria david. >> protecting u.s. home land, rhodes addressed the idea that islamic state could quickly pivot from iraq and syria to positions in u.s. home land, it sounds like the white house is not embracing the rhetoric from the pentagon but not dumping accommodate coldz water on it either. >> the fbi said there was no credible threat to the american home land the americans are far more concerned about that. there are some 12,000 foreign fighters fighting on the side of the islamic state group from some 50 countries, just a few of them americans in their estimation. but again the words the nuance is very interesting coming from ben rhodes today. previously american military action in the area have been largely a defensive posture to protect erbil, the consulate

there, around the mosul dam, three more air strikes today, the ostensive reason because if that dam were undermined, it could sweep down the area into baghdad. anywhere it can to go against islamic state fighters who are quote unquote plotting against the united states. he said the goal is not just to contain the islamic state group but to provide the iraqi fighters and kurdish fighters with an opportunity to go on military offense david. >> and mike finally seven months ago, president obama in an interview with david remnick compared the islamic state with a junior varsity basketball game. how is the white house responding to that now? >> and that's thrown back on their team, just because they put on basketball jerseys

doesn't make them kobe bryant. that's a very, very serious threat david. >> mike viqueria, thanks as always mike. the islamic state group is no different, the way it's getting its money is presenting a special challenge to the united states and countries in western urine. paul beban joins us with that. paul. >> the islamic state has become very versatile. the u.s. says the sex declared islamic state is gathering steam and growing increasingly dangerous. >> they marry ideology, sophistication of strategic and tactical military prowess. they are tremendously well funded. oh this is beyond anything that we've seen.

>> reporter: the group has money, weapons, battle experience and brains. using high resolution videos and hashtag campaigns it broadcasts its message worldwide. a quantum leap over the grainy videos osama bashar al-assad used to release in his years in hiding. in june when the group captured the iraqi city of mosul the iraqi military left behind its equipment much of it american, state-of-the-art tanks and ammunition. the group looted banks and museums, possibly make off with millions in cash god and antiquities. and $2 billion, some of it is ransom money. the group had demanded $132 million for james foley but the

u.s. refused to pay. but european countries may take a different tack. both france and spain paid to retake some of the hostages held in syria. >> we could do the math here. the estimates that the pentagon and this is a conservative estimate, 30,000 barrels a day of iraqi oil. now i.s.i.s. has control of the oil rich region of eastern syria which adds 40 to 50,000 barrels. upwards of 80,000 barrels a day of oil. >> even at a discount selling that quantity of oil on the black market could net the group two to $3 million a day a significant sum for the group whose ambitions and aggressive tactics seems almost unlimited. analysts say that black market oil is largely to confine to the islamic group answer territory and the regions immediately

surrounding it parts of turkey and jordan, some is being sold oto the government of president bashar al-assad, but none of it is making its way into the legitimate market. when you fill up in the u.s., you don't have to worry about using islamic state oil. >> paul beban, thank you. yoings us is heather hur hurlburt, heather a lot of people in the obama administration are trying to figure out what exactly the islamic state is up to now. what's your view? >> well, they've been pretty explicit that what they want is 83th a state in the sort of no man's land between iraq and syria and when they get a little crazy is whether they talk about jordan, lebanon, israel, turkey. it is clear they have major

state building aspirations, the question is how far can they go with them. second question is how serious and capable they are of carrying out something against americans other than americans who happen to fall into their clutches where they already operate. >> what is your view, that they have the same capability of al qaeda before 9/11? >> you'd be an idiot to say definitely not and anyone who confidently asserts that they know what the islamic state is capable of you know is knot really necessarily somebody you want -- not really necessarily somebody you ought to listen to. we don't have any reason to believe that they do but as your colleague pointed out, you know, six months ago we didn't think they had the capacity to make the run through iraq that they had. so the view right now is let's be careful not to underestimate them. and that's likely frankly to lead us to overestimate them to some degree. and after that you know causing terror after all and outside fear is the thing that terror

groups dpoift do. >> they are bringing moing -- -- exist to do. >> what are the differences you see between their aspirations of frightening americans and what al qaeda was up to? >> well, i mean a point to make here is that the execution of james foley brought to americans' attention what people in iraq and syria have been experiencing for acouple of years now that unfortunately hundreds if not thousands of people have died that way. and people continue to be under threat. so they -- you know they have no compunction about using the worst kinds of cruelty. but if they had the ability to, say, strike at an american embassy. if they had the ability to send operatives to the state frankly we would have seen them doing it and given their love of social media we would have seen them bragging about it.

>> if the united states does decide that we have to go into syria in some fashion with military strikes air strikes per se in order to degrade islamic state there, aren't we in a sense therefore helping president assad somebody we almost attacked two years ago because of his use of chemical weapons? >> well, what you have to remember is that i.s. has not been fighting that aggressively against assad and that in some ways assad has tolerated the islamic state because it was targeting the moderates who were assad's main opposition, the same people by the way that the u.s. has been helping. so yes, the islamic state is an the alternate force on syria territory. but they have not been turning their guns on the assad regime. so getting rid of them doesn't necessarily relieve the pressure on assad. >> is it a viable policy though to only deal with islamic state from the air and to try avoid putting ground troops in northern iraq or syria because

then you have the sort of issue of islamic state being able to claim to the muslim world, hey we're defending ourselves here? >> that's one reason why it's not viable to put ground troops into iraq or syria and the syrian don't really want american troops there. so you have iraqi troops you have kurdish iraqi troops you have other opposition forces in syria you is the other neighbors of those countries who are all highly motivated to use their ground forces to contain or push back the islamic state, and that is going to be a much better policy than trying to use u.s. ground troops in an area where frankly they are n not wanted. >> heather thank you. islamic state is holding up to 20 journalists, including u.s. aid workers, an american

journalist named steven sotloff, italians vanessa mazulla and greta ramelli. three of its workers were killed and still held by the group. tonight the united states is denouncing russia for sending a convoy into ukraine today, more than 20 russian trucks moved over the border, moscow insists they are carrying humanitarian aid 52 a region. >> russia muff remove its vehicle from the care tri of ukraine immediately.

>> meanwhile, ukrainian officials say they could be gaining grounds on areas controlled by pro-russian separatists. neave barker reports. >> the vehicles have been in limbo on the russian ukrainian border for more than a week as kyiv and moscow argue over their entry. now, in defense, kyiv is calling the move a direct invasion. and this is where the trucks are thought to be heading. the separatist-held city of luhansk where street to street fighting rages. the city remains under constant ukrainian bombardment. at this monastery, more than a thousand refugees have sought sanctuary. a few weeks ago these people led ordinary lives in quiet back waters but the war has changed

everything. angelica escaped fighting in the town of horlivka. she says she's been at the monastery for a month. her and her family gathered what they could and fled. we are on the road to horlivka the scene of the fiercest fighting. without water, electricity and the constant fear of shelling, locals are trying to lead normal lives. the separatist fighters are only a couple of kilometers down this road, they remain in control of the town of horlivka. the ukrainian army together with volunteer battalions continue to tighten the noose on the separatist last remaining strong holds. now ukrainians appear to have the upper hand. >> translator: it looks like donetske and luhansk are already ours, we are in the process of clearing up.

there are no major forces left. >> reporter: but the battlefield changes shape on a daily basis. with the arrival of the russian convoy, the tide of war could still change. neave barker, al jazeera, the eastern portion of ukraine. >> hamas executed 18 soldiers accused of are collaborating with israel. placed with hoods over their head in front of a mosque and shot. ordered the death sentences but the palestinian center for human rights described the deaths as extra-judicial executions. in israel a four-year-old boy was killed today by rocket fire from hamas in gaza. israeli officials said the attack also wounded five other civilians. prime minister benjamin

netanyahu said hamas would pay a heavy toll for the death of the civilians. a night of peace in ferguson, missouri and today we learned more about the grand jury who will decide whether to bring charges against darren wills. the jurors were pulled from a county wide pool, nine whites and fou three african americans. a very different scene than a week ago. >> yes, david, a very different scene than a week ago. there were violent confrontations with police and riots. tonight there's a gospel group, people walking down the streets carrying posters, they are looking for justice for michael brown but also peace for

ferguson. what a difference a week makes. in ferguson, the street where michael brown lost his life is peaceful lined with willed roses. mourners including brown's parents pay their respects to the slain teen at a makeshift memorial. for st. louis attorney kelly webb the scene inspires a mix of emotions. >> i think the roses the amount of memorials that people have set up is touching but it is overwhelmingly sad. it's just a feeling of heaviness. >> for mocha williams, it means something else. >> you don't have to be destructive, you don't have to be a mad person walking around tearing things up. >> one week ago ferguson erupted in violence again. the same day they also named brown as a suspect in a strong arm robbery at a convenience store. protests all weekend sparked

rioting and looting prompting the governor to declare a state of emergency. but today there's calm on the street where police clashed with protesters, for several nights. >> hands up don't shoot tee shirts. >> and the handing out of water. >> thank you guys. >> looted and robbed last week of nearly $13,000 in merchandise. owner sonny diane says he's encouraged by support of his customers and neighbors. >> the last few days and the tempo on the streets and the way the police was handling the situation and makes me feel like there is some hope, there is some light at the end of the tunnel and the tunnel is getting shorter and shorter. >> reporter: signs that ferguson is again gaining a sense of community. and monday will be michael brown's funeral and people here

in the streets are hoping that they're starting to see some semblance of normalcy returning to ferguson and hopefully they can keep the peace for a few more weeks. david. >> diane eastabrook, thank you. there are gatherings one for michael brown and one for darren wills, the officer who shot brown. moments ago the brown memorial fund had raised $186,000. in the nine days the go fund me website has been up, almost 7,000 people have donated, the fund for darren wills has collected more money, $272,000. in the course of the last three hours both funds have collected more than $10,000. we've been giving you an opportunity to weigh in on

ferguson, missouri. if you have a message or question for attorney general eric holder, we want to hear about it. use the hashtag #dearericholder. remember so-called global warming? air temperatures have actually cooled a bit and scientists believe it's because oceans are absorbing the heat. we'll explain. and why the city of boston is putting the brakes on a popular parking app. demands answers >> what do we want? >> justice! >> when do we want it? >> now! >> faul lines, al jazeera america's hard hitting... >> there blocking the door...

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>> drone operators, yes, drone operators are suing the federal government. saying the federal aviation administration went too far with the regulations it issued in june. the agency said, the regulations were needed to clarify the type of aircraft, and set limits on what drones can do. trove in some of america's

largest cities. several city governments are trying to block new apps that will tell you where to find a parking spot. the service charges a nominal fee so what's rang with that? here is al jazeera's mary snowy. >> parking i have is tough. >> as developer haystack, use its app to alert drivers you're leaving a park spot and get $3 to hold it for another haystack user. haystack gets 75 cents of that. the company recently nowe is prd it to the city of boston. private individuals can't sell lease or reserve public space. in june san francisco issued a cease and desist order to monkey parking. san francisco drivers also face a $30015 for violating the

city's order. startup sweet and park moto were also told not to operate. one urban planning expert says cities only have themselves to blame. >> can you think of any other public asset that's so mismanaged and just left to take care of itself and that's why these app developers come in and try the take advantage of this mismanagement. >> donald shoop fault faults ci. he says that extra money could be invested in city services. >> cities ought to think the way an app developer, that is to say, how could i use this new technology to finance better public services on the metered bureaucracy? >> one thing seems certain there's opportunity in prarking. marry snow, al jazeera. -- in parking.

mary snow, al jazeera. >> coming up. the effort to handle wild horses. and the lessons of ferguson, why nearby towns are preparing for tensions and challenges.

>> welcome back to al jazeera america. i'm david schuster. we'll have more on the white house response to the islamic state group and some comments made at the pentagon. also coming up this half hour how the atlantic ocean could be having a slowing impact on global warming. plus the trove over wild horses. keeping them off of private property and avoiding the slaughterhouse. and a maverick musician, how eric hutchinson is getting his music out to the masses on his own.

the united states military conducted more air strikes today in northern iraq but the white house and pentagon are saying limited strikes will not be enough to stop the islamic state group. the pentagon is calling for a strategy involving several countries. meanwhile the fbi and homeland security say there are no specific or credible threats to actual u.s. soil. but the president's national security advisor had tough words for anyone thinking about an attack. >> we are going to do what is necessary to protect americans. and so if we see plotting against americans, we see a threat to the united states, emanating from anywhere, we stand ready to take action against that threat. we've made very clear time and again that if you come after americans we're going to come after you wherever you are and that's what's going to guide our planning in the days to come. >> ben rhodes also said that the united states will not be restricted by borders, indicating that the united states may be weighing action

inside syria. joining us now is robert grenier, former counterterrorism official at the central intelligence agency. robert, we heard comparisons with al qaeda, the suggestion that the islamic state has plenty of money. how great a threat do you think they pose to the united states? >> they don't pose a great threat to the united states right now. i think what everybody is frayed of is the threat they could ultimately pose. and we see the islamic state bumping up against u.s. interests, they already see the need to defend themselves against u.s. interests, that threat will only be increased over time. >> the worry is that they could take advantage of europeans and they could easily come back and carry out attacks within the united states. >> well, that's absolutely true. there are a great many foreign

fighters, including fighters, estimates up to 12,000 altogether. that's from around the world not just westerners. but even if the number of westerners could potentially be turned back is only in the hundreds that is a potentially significant threat. so long as they are preoccupied by the fight in syria and iraq they pose less of a threat to the west but ultimately, if the leader in islamic state has a desire to do so these people can be trained and sent back. >> chuck hagel says we've never seen anything like it. are they a more serious threat than al qaeda was? >> i don't think there's any question about it. potentially, they certainly are much more serious threat. al qaeda has always been a subnational group and i think islamic state would still probably fall in that category of subnational groups but they certainly see themselves and have taken on much of the

trappings and the resources of an actual state so that is a potential threat of a completely different order of magnitude. >> general dempsey yesterday the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, said they needed to take down islamic state within syria. ben rhodes wouldn't throw cold water on it, said we are not going to be defined by borders. do you think going into syria to attack islamic state is a wise idea? >> i think as in iraq the u.s. has to make very calibrated use of its power. at the end of the day, the united states is certainly not going to try to colonize eastern syria. at the end of the day, just as in iraq it's local forces that really need to occupy that space. now in iraq there are competent forces we think that ultimately the u.s. can provide assistance to and that can ultimately again we would hope drive islamic state out. there really is no competent

authority with which we are currently willing politically to deal in syria to do that and without that the u.s. is going to be very limited as i think secretary hagel pointed out yesterday. >> there are ideas floating around in washington that we have almost reached detente with assad and the ufts i united stas accepting the idea that he is president of iraq and he has gotten rid of his chemical weapons, if we are counting on him staying in power why not take out his enemy? >> well you know, we may get there. we have common interests with the assad regime right now. now obviously this is an unloving regime we have been committed to its overthrow, we have been very, very careful however not to throw in with elements of the syrian opposition of with we

disapprove. we have no good partner. it's going to be difficult for the u.s. to deal with the assad regime for some time to come. there are indirect means of dealing with them on assistance, and if and when the islamic state poses a much more serious threat to the u.s. and western interests we may have to hold and deal with the regime in damascus. >> it's obviously going to take some time and we heard ben rhodes say islamic state has made significant gains in just the last six months. do we have the time to be able to take on islamic state or is it something the united states is going to have to preempt? >> well, this is going to be a long term process and i think that's something that we simply have to accept. we have to have elements with which we can cooperate, we can't

simply come in and try to fight the fight for them. that's what we tried to do in afghanistan, that didn't work very well, we did to a lesser extent in iraq, that didn't work out well until we had a competent government in iraq, in 28, 29, 2010, around the same is true right now. as great as the temptation might be, we're going ohave to take this step by step both politically and militarily. robert grenier, thank you for joining us. >> you're very welcome. >> after a chinese fighter jet flew within 30 feet of a navy plain in chinese air space, moved parallel to it and rolled over possibly to show off its weapons. the pentagon said it was very, very close and very dangerous. things seem to be calm again

tonight in ferguson missouri where protests erupted two weeks ago. police in a nearby town say what happened in ferguson will not happen there and the population there is also predominantly african american. but there's one big difference. john hendren reports from wellston, missouri. >> reporter: it seems like every resident has an unhappy encounter with police. >> started beating me on my right knee like mashed potatoes, big white guy. i passed out. when i woke back up, he took the wheelchair and rode it around to the back of his patrol car and grabbed my head and bumped it on the end of the car. he still wasn't satisfied. >> in part because there were witnesses that officer was later

fired. but many young african americans say it's a pattern that often goes unpunished. >> it was never good. had it been me who killed mike brown i'd have been found guilty five seconds later. but because it's a white officer, people are standing behind him. >> education and high opportunity that can lead to high crime but here in wellston, people are doing things different. el wellston is 95% black but two thirds of wellston's police force is black. >> i don't think it would happen here in wellston, based on what we have done in the past with encounters of that nature. people when they look at the wellston police department they see a reflection of them, see more police officers that look like them.

>> reporter: chief is buying tasers to avoid a situation like that. facing a troubled man with a knife resulted in deadly force. >> i think about this all the time. this has always been on my mind to the day i die. when that man was choking and i was looking up to him and just seemed like that was my last breath you know what i told him? >> what. >> i told him, i said, thank you for not killing me. >> reporter: jermaine lacey is pursuing the city of st. louis in court in hopes that no other young black man has to say the same. john hendren, al jazeera, wellston, missouri. the washington post made the decision today to stop outing the words redskins. when we watch for the nfl to catch up with common decency and public opinion, we vow not to

use the word ourselves unless it has a particular effect. roaming herds of wild horses. the large number of horses are dpearing. disappearing. >> for 21 years ginger katherines a documentary film maker focuses her attention on wild horse he that still roam in wyoming and other western state. now katherines joins a bigger battle. the blm to round up these horse he and remove them from this part of wyoming forever. the cattle ranchers argue that the wild horses overrun these grazing areas on private land. none of the ranchers would speak to us on camera but the

organization that represents them has won a lawsuit against the bureau of land management forcing them to remove hundreds of wild horses from private and public land. in recent years the blm has rounded up the horses to control their population. the horses go to blm holding pens and pastures but now a federal investigation is underway. >> the biggest buyer by far is a crstlecolorado life stock buyer. tom davis has bought more than 1700 wild horses according to the blm in his applications uncovered by the nonprofit investigative group pro-publica, davis propositioned the horses would be used for movies, turned out to pasture and put on oil

fields. but brand inspection rorsd recos showed that he sent the animals to spofford, texas on their way to slaughterhouses in mexico. the blm refused to comment on his case and the bureau of land management says the investigation is ongoing. ginger is convinced that the blm look the other way to get rid of animals they no longer want to be responsible for. >> i think they are culpable. they have made a horrible, horrible mess of it. >> chris bury, rock springs, wyoming. what caused a mysterious crack in the middle of the desert?

some observers feel afternoon earthquake could be to blame, others believe it's caused by an underground stream which eroded the ground above it. unable to explain why air temperatures have seemed to level off in recent years. now a new study finds answers to where the heat has gone. our science and technology editor jacob ward explains. >> the globe seems to be warming, that seems to be what scientists are pinning down. the thing is that it's easy to get distracted by the short term variables from the 1970s. the periods of time where there's an upward tick, it drops off again, surface temperatures rise and drop off again. and the short term variability confusing. it looks like there's a pause, what we caught a hiatus of

global warming. it turns that the global trend the long term trend is unmistakable. we are seeing warming over time. the fact is that oceans, 90% of the planet's heat is held by oceans. that means we've only been seeing what's going on at the surface and not seeing the ream depths here and that's what this new study that came out today is showing us. using a new system called argus, a robotic system that measures salinity in the ocean's depths, they have been able to tell that increasingly salty water as it moves into fresher or less salty portions of the ocean ends up dropping down, the saltier are water is heavier and dragged down the warmth to the deeper portions of the ocean. the surface temperature seems to drop but in fact the global temperature has not dropped, it's just very deep in the ocean. and so really it's a question of

just having been measuring the wrong thing and sort of in the wrong place. i in fact spoke earlier to dr. kung w.h.o. was one of the professors who co-authored the study and here is what he had to say. >> it is a convenience for people living on the surface of the planet, therefore we want to know what surface temperature is behaving but from physics that's a wrong metric. the metric for measuring global warming should be the total ocean heat content. >> as you can see david it is just a question of there being many, many variables, it's looking quite confusing but the scientists are telling us the globe is warming but not the places we expected. >> jacob ward, from san francisco. there is a phenomenal that scientists are trying to unrav unravel. sailor jellies, usually live

miles off shore. however they have been washing up on the beaches as can you see by the millions for weeks from southern california to washington state. the jellies can sting but not enough to harm humans. accusing of stealing science and technology screth of the --s of the past. adrian brown reports from shen zin. >> a vision of the sporting future where robots are the heavy hitters. a high-tech contest involving high school students from china and the united states. but a competition where the emphasis is on partnership. >> it's about growing together. it's about helping everyone do what they can at the best of their abilities. and i think this is to say that everyone can learn from this. >> some of the operators are

operator-controlled, others computer-guided. robotic sport began in the united states 20 years ago. the chinese have only been at it since 2012. and national pride was on display. for most of the u.s. students it's their first visit to china. >> it's so cool to bring something we know so well to bring it here and introduce them to it. good to see their faces that they see something new they can do in the coming years. >> both groups had six weeks to build and design their robots, programming them in a range of sporting skills. away from the contest the emphasis is on mentoring. yang chida has been a beneficiary of that and has reinforced his ambition to become a scientist. >> this contest is interesting and stimulating. me and our teammates have all interesting science and technology.

>> reporter: relations between china and the united states have been strained with both countries accusing each other of stealing sensitive trade and technology secrets. with a focus of this event is sharing technology. >> i think it's great, yeah, the symbolism of the cooperation between teams and also the cooperation between united states and chinese groups. >> international robotic sport is expensive. sponsors and parent-teacher groups in the united states donate money for budgets, that can be as high as $120,000. but that probably felt like money well spent today. adrian brown, al jazeera in shen zen southern china. >> our picture of the day is coming up next. plus. ♪ >> you've heard his music in commercials and television shows, now you'll hear eric

hutchinson right here.

>> problems in the way of thunderstorms look the rockies and in part of the east coast. but it is the heat to the south we're going to see build up not only on your saturday and your sunday but your monday. we get concerns, and that stretch of hot weather is down right dangerous. midwest into the southeast. temperatures are going to feel like they're in triple digit zones because of the humidity on top of that heat. so calling it a real-feel temperature, some areas in florida, alabama, georgia you're going to feel like it's 110

degrees. some spots a little more than that. temperatures will be in the upper 90s in these areas, but cooler area in idaho, wyoming, north dakota, one of these areas we're going to see those thunderstorms popping up. that's going to be our strongest thunderstorm focus pushing into kansas in the course of the afternoon and we're expecting some powerful wind gusts along with those storms up to 50, 60 miles an hour. heavy rain in montana, our focus of heavy rain has been in illinois and indiana. al jazeera america news continues.

♪ ♪ >> eric hutchinson has taken the world by storm since releasing his first album on youtube in 2007. catchy tunes like this, now the artist is on his way. the musician sits down with john

siegenthaler. >> pop music, this album, purification, i felt that a lot of what i was doing was building up to this and a pop sound that i really love. >> some critics call it sunshine pop. >> sure. >> it's happy music. i listen to your music and i see you perform. where does that joy come from? >> i marine a lot of it was i toured for many years by myself solo acoustic and the shows were boring and slow and quiet and i was bored and the audience was bored and i've got to have an upbeat catalog if i'm going to have a good show. ♪ >> you knew that you wanted to do something. did you know at an early age what it would be? >> it was a natural step for me. i liked the song so why not write a song, you know?

i learned the guitar so i could be self sufficient, put it on the phone and play it for the little girl and have my dad come in and yell at me. >> do you like writing or performing? >> i pour it all out there. creating something from nothing. there are days that it can be kind of bleak but also, really great when it happens. >> where do lyrics happen? >> i don't know, maybe i'm writing lyrics right here. >> watching you watching him, where does that come from? >> looking at love from the outside, being in love with something that's in love with somebody else, i call it anna ad up love triangle. >> where do you aspire to this

when you get to this level, people are really noticing your music and listening, what do you want to do? >> i keep working, writing with other people more. song writing is the thing i hang my hat on, that i'm proud of. it comes from me. if my mom never met my dad, these songs wouldn't exist. i'm writing a musical, starting to work on that now and i don't know want to keep exploring. >> what do your parents think about this? >> they like it i go home and they've got the tv shows stored on the dvr, i'm sure this one will be there too. >> what do they say to you? >> they said we had a hard time parking. they're my parents they're used to it. >> i've heard other performers saying, when you were eight years old standing up before the

crowd and getting that feedback, is that the same charge every time? >> yeah. singing a song i wrote, and having a bunch of people sing it back i'm very much about crowd participation in the show. i sweat a ton. you know, i want to make people have a great time, and having someone sing my song back to me, that's probably the best part of it. >> you said you'd play a song for us. will you? >> yes. >> terrific. >> my new single, called "a little more" ♪ right about the time i missed your call ♪ ♪ i lost my mind ♪ where i am ♪ i hope you see the text i sent ♪ and do go soul ♪ because i can't stand to be alone in the bus stops wearing

off ♪ ♪ can i get a little more ♪ can i get a little more from your ♪ ♪ from your ♪ from your ♪ that's me sitting in the bathroom ♪ ♪ nobody knows what kind of thing i got to fight off ♪ ♪ what make you think that you could ever take the night off ♪ ♪ i can't stand to be alone when the bus stops there in all ♪ ♪ can i get a little more ♪ can i get a little more ♪ from your ♪ from your ♪ can i get a little bit a little bit ♪ ♪ can i get a little bit ♪ a little little little from you ♪ [applause] >> eric hutchinson is gearing up

now for his fall tour. and finally, a lip smacking look at a giant japanese koi, the zoo's newest attraction. thank you for watching, borderland is next on al jazeera america.

>> coming up on al jazeera america's "borderland". >> yeah! >> my boys! >> good to see you! >> i don't know if i would say that i've every seen anything like this. >> are you and your daughter gonna take this train? this, takes guts.