that and more ahead. >> in gaza it is quiet after two months of fighting. the key to success is stringent honouring of the ceasefire. the way to do that is to end occupation. the project is an attempt to create an ideal university. you want to elevate what an undergraduate degree is about. >> it is not reserved for sitting passively. >> the general brought calm to new orleans. >> in missouri, he said he would repeat the message.

>> weapons down. put the weapons down. >> we begin with a ceasefire in gaza that appears to hold. in israel binyamin netanyahu addressed the nation and included a warning for hamas. >> translation: i take the opportunity to say if if resumes fire, we will not tolerate a strippi spring lipping of shooting. >> -- sprinkling of shooting. >> in ramallah, mahmoud abbas reported a new initiative bypassing negotiations. it would call for a courtney upshaw resolution orring u.n. resolution or conference to end the israeli occupation of palestinian territory. >> joining us centre jericho in the west bank is the chief palestinian netter for the palestinian -- negotiator for the palestinian organization.

good to have you back with us. let's begin with the ceasefire. the costs were huge. more than a third of gaza's 1.7 million citizens displaced. how is what was agreed to yesterday different to what was offered different to the first week of conflict, why all the bloodshed or something we could have had in the first week. >> no, i think the question is wrong. why did israel wage the war. we did not start the war. it began on june the 12th. the israeli government decided to begin the bombardment, and the war from day one had political objectives. this was israel's response. this was an israeli response to

the fact that we began a reconciliation process, to get on track. so the intention of the israeli government was to destroy the national consensus government. to destroy the consensus, because the israeli government knows that there'll be no palestinian state in gaza, and no state without gaza, and from day one, we began urging the international community to stop the war, pd the conflict, stop palestinian blood being shed, and every time was finding pretexts and executions to continue the bombardment. we call on the international community to make sure that israel suspects and understands the ceasefire. we need to sustain and be going to but 450,000 people without homes, without roofs, we need hundreds of thousands of boys

and girls to begin the school year. we urge the international community to begin immediately helping us in transferring the needs, the food, the medical, ut fuel needs, the electricity needs for 1.7 million in gaza that has been totally devastated in a war. >> let me ask you this dash gsh in announcing the ceasefire mahmoud abbas asked what is next. that was the english translation, pointing out that gaza has waged three wars. how long can it last. there has been much talk. much talk about a new initiative that you guys are proposing, bypassing american brokered negotiations and calling for an international conference or resolution demanding a deadline for the israeli occupation. what detail can you give me about that. >> there was an important crucial meeting for the palestinian leadership, the

joint leaders of the pl ox committee, heads of palestinian facts, and last week mahmoud abbas, in the preps of his excellence -- presence of his excellency the major of qatar spoke to the head of the political bureau on the situation a day after, and all i can say at this statement is a decision was voted upon. that business as usual no more. status quo. we don't want to busy ours. we call on the international community, we met with the u.n., we spoke to the regions, the japanese, the arabs, to begin immediately. at the same time, the day after concerning our situation in the wank and -- in the west bank,

and gaza, we will not allow the status quo to continue. i cannot elaborate on what was decided, but we need to see the occupation end. it is almost 46 years old. this occupation must end for the 7 years old. it must end and we want to see that the international community do what it takes to end this occupation. we are a slow people, we cannot afford 12,000 people killed or wounding every two years. >> can you give assurances that you are in charge. that when mahmoud abbas says something, that is the word of the palestinians. as you mentioned, there's many factions, you are one of the 26 there. are you speaking for the palestinian people and for gaza. there has seemed to have been some confusion in the last several weeks during the conflict as to weather hamas is acting on its own, and other factions are acting on their own. are you able to work out your side of things.

>> i am. >> we can recall on 24 april this year, there's no more hamas government. no splitting gaza. we, with the consultation and consensus, that all the political parties, we formed a national consensus government. this is the address for gaza, the west bank, and east jerusalem, mahmoud abbas is the president of all palestinians, this is our agrees for gaza, west bank and jerusalem. all the reconstruction goes through this government. the day after, politically, everywhere is on bored, and mahmoud abbas, when -- on board, and mahmoud abbas, when he announced the next step, changing the status quo, he palestinians. >> let me ask you this. he said he can't give you more detail, but there was a meeting and a plan saying no more status quo.

some are saying mahmoud abbas may go to the international criminal court. war crime allegations against israel. you have been negotiating. the head negotiator. your name is probably more well-known to the world than mahmoud abbases. we have seen you for more than two decades. what do you think comes of that. the united states will never back the idea, that israel gets tried for war crimes. what are you aiming to get out of that. >> it is a worry, of course, and those that worry about the criminal courts should stop committing crimes. we are not fond of going to court. but when you look at gaza, 12,000 people killed and wounded, mostly women and children. when you look at a third, when you look at the targetting of electricity and water, deliberately. putting gaza back 500 years.

it was a collective punishment, a war. this is a war. israel is the occupying power. the safety of the people, in jerusalem - it is israel's responsibility. when this occupying power violates all of this, it's a full right. we are finalising it now, we are pursuing it and we will defend people at every human level possibly in accordance with international law. >> is your goal to force israel back to the negotiating table why you say you must start with a map, you must discuss territories, not just hearing the words we support, a 2-state solution, you want to see what the map looks leek. is the goal to get israel back to the table. we have seen for more than two decade, four decades, that this has not worked. >> ali, our goal is to make sure that our people are not being

slaughtered any more. that we don't lose 12,000 of our boys and girls every two years, we don't see the devastation we have seen in gaza, we don't see the infants put in ice-cream refrigerators, for lack of things, this is horrible situation, human being treated in 2014 in this fashion. we have seen an army with 3,000 tanks, 2,000 f 16s, facing gaza, 1.7 million, no army, navy, air force, and you have seen the devastation. the day after will not be done in accordance with the old broken record. come back to the negotiations, help us help you. no, this time we have a plan, and this plan is not - it's a yes or no, does israel recognise the state of israel. they haven't done it so far.

they haven't done it so far they continue settlement activize. the legal status in the united nations, since 2012, in accordance with the rules is we are a state under occupation. we are like korea, philippines, belgium, holland, norway, france, and the world war ii, under the japanese and german occupations. israel has a choice, the choice is settlements or peace. they can't have both. occupation or peace. they cannot have both. they'll be full responsibility, authority, and they allow the palestinian authority to take the palestinian people from occupation within a specified time frame. >> settlements or peace, you can't have both. what if israel says, as binyamin netanyahu as said.

we are not leaving the settlement. we will not do that. >> okay. he's occupying power, and will show his responsibility, and i cannot elaborate further. the status quo no more. business as usual, no more. i'm not in any position it threaten anyone. all i want to do, all we want to do as palestinians, as the palestinian leadership is make sure that the people are not slaughtered every two years. the boys and girls deserve to go to school and open every year. the boys and girls deserve to sleep. they deserve to have homs and parents, not to be orphans, this we will do. it's our full right to protect our people once again, those that worry should not commit crime. >> the chief negotiator for the palestinian organization association.

thank you for joining us. on wednesday, mark regev addressed his country's position on avoiding conflict. >> there's a concern in israel and the international community that we'll have to revisit this in six months, and the way to avoid what is to work seriously on protecting hamas from rearm of course, and to do what the palestinians have committed to do, which is to have gaza disarmed. that's a palestinian commitment a signed commitment, it's time it was implemented. that's the sure way to prevent another war. >> while is ram pages across syria and iraq. questions are raised about the saudi's role to sponsor islam. one provide the religious idea ollie for groups like the islamic state. i'm joined from london by ed-hussain, senior fellow for middle east studies at the council on foreign relations. he published

a piece in "new york times" entitled, "saudis must stop exporting extremism." saudi arabia donated $100 million to fund an anti-terror of the agency. >> thank you for having me. several points. saudi arabia giving $100 million to the u.n. this year doesn't account for the $10 billion estimated by the u.s. state department that the saudi arabia government and many of its princes and others spent supporting a severe form. yes, saudi arabia's contribution should be welcome, but we should bear in mind that the saudi arabia government's extreme arm,

in-house. the more extreme clerics inside the country. those haven't been reined in. they run in the holy places. they have control of the system, and a public place, and have a global presence through many embassies. saudi arabia's record on this is mixed. and i think the copying and his advisors can go further, domestically to kush extremism and winning -- curb extremism and rwinning the battle at home. to allows those to go away from the country request a better puristic form of islam, rather than the current confrontational form of islam in the countries. >> what would the saudis say, they say that it is conservative, it's a conservative interpretation of islam by a country that sees

itself as a custodian of islam. that it's interpreted as a form of violence or a calling to do problem. >> i wish i couldn't agree with the analysis, i agree with it to the extent that suicide bombings and violence are condemned. they have done that. it's important that the mind-set promising the hear after. kill them where you mind them, versus the koran, it is endorsed and facilitated. it's a literalist form of islam, devoid of history, metaphors rgs scholarship, fillosify. that's a problem. secondly, many of the crimes that we are shocked at under

taken by - inside iraq. instruction of age-old muslim tunes, all of that started in the modern king dom of 1932 onward. saudi arabia has not been vocal enough in changing syllabuses and not being accepting enough of the shia, and the mood music that it sets at home inside the country with an intolerance towards minorities, it's sexism towards women, and encourage others to say we can outdo the others. 1,400 years of history no longer exists in the form of tombs and shrines. that's bulldozed by the encouragement of the establishment. unless saudi arabia takes an active stance in reversing extremism, it's making too much

of a demand for many of its own students and citizens that go and pick up arms for - another form of literalist islam, that outis lambs, if you like, the -- out is lambs the saudi form. you say the former islam practised in saudi arabia is something that the prophet mu whom youed would not emphasis. 1400 years ago there was a liberalist form, it's a strain that managed to stay alive. you say saudi arabia is not following islam, are they worried if they loosen the grip on the ultra conservative strap, they'll weaken their legitimacy at home, as they see rebellions around the arab world. that's the concern our friends would highlight. the road to reform can lead to upheaval.

removing the house of power. at the same time the people that make the argument over and again, that they believe in evolution and revolution. my concern it where is that evolutionful for example, if you go to washington d c, you she see the hollow calls museum. al qaeda and i.s.i.s. and other extremists killed more muslims across the world. jordan, iraq, elsewhere, and they have killed non-muslims. that is yet to go up, making the highlights of extremism and intolerance of a variety that led to the killings of muslims, highlighting the fact that the prophet mohammed wouldn't recognise it, the profit would in the endorse women wearing

black and men wearing white, enforcing the dress code. two, the moral police that they have is not something that the prophet encouraged among his generation of people, going around judging beliefs, enforcing a moral code. we know from literature, at the time of the profit, whether that's right slave or other women, they were bare breasted. it is the norm. and islam aim along and encouraged modesty. in saudi arabia, they have gone to such a degree, that no form of relaxation is allowed for women in the public domain, leading to intolerance, bigotry and other problems. it's a conveyor belt. and all i'm calling is a greater form of openness. when you see saudi arabias coming here to the u.k., destination for holiday pump purposes, you see the saudis

doing away. if they do it here, hopefully they are more than mature, doing country. >> let me ask you this. you tweeted this comment from the council: >> it qatar trying to have it both ways like saudi arabia. >> in some ways it is. if we take the suicide bombing-justifying cleric given vip treatment inside qatar, that's one thing. qatar says they stand for modesty plur assy, openness, but being home in an extreme cleric in terms of justifying suicide bombing, and most saudi cleric would not go that far. there's a problem with qatar trying to have it both ways.

yes, being modern, wanting great openness, and trying to be a home to taliban, hamas. that gives out mixed messages, and qatar ritely wants to be embraced by the international community and deserves the embrace, and has to shed the baggage of trying to bank roll extreme forms of islamist voices out there. >> thank you for joining us. "consider this" will be right back. >> al jazeera's investigative unit has tonight's exclusive report. >> stories that have impact... that make a difference... that open your world... >> this is what we do... >> america tonight only on al jazeera america

stimulus programs from the federal government and the reserve gets credit for a lot of fiscal recession. austerity - spending cuts and higher taxes - their economy suffers weak growth. that may change. during a central bankers meeting, tap european bankers

sutted european banks could turn from austerity to stimulus, saying the risks of doing too little outweighed those of doing too much. that is excessive upward wage and price pressures. perhaps not in france, after the economy ministerry argued that austerity had gone too far, and hurt the french economy, suffering 6 months of zero growth. a new government was made, a former banker and economic advisor to the president as the new economy minister. back in the united states, the s&p set a record high. i'm joined by the chief economic advisor to firm allianz and chair of the president's global development council. good to have you here, thank you for being with us. the french government dissolved after the country's economic minister resigned, insisting

that austerity had gone too far. nonunexpected for a left-loning government, which didn't implement it. what did it tell us about austerity policies, did it have stay power or run their course. france or europe is searching desperately for a growth model. in the absence of a growth model the resistance has increased. basically whether it's france, whether it's the president of the european central bank, europe needs a new approach to unemployment. >> the problem across europe is slowing economies. i'm worried how worried we should be about the economies. there's developments in germany. the economic powerhouse is weakening. where does the growth in europe come from. >> we should worry, and as you

point out germany slowed, and the locomotive slowed. not only has europe as a whole stalled, but the three largest economies showed significant weakness. we should worry. where does it come from - three sources. first, structure reform to improve competitiveness. secondly, more action by the european central bank, and thirdly. you need to rebalance aggregate demand, another way of saying where there's a will to spend, there isn't the wallet, were there isn't the wallet there's the will, europe needs to combine both. >> let's talk about europe again. an issue - you didn't mention energy, we talk about growth and energy. europe has a problem on its doorstep, russia. they have taken a more aggressive stance, but the bottom line is as the winter months approach russia controls europe's natural gas,

30 or 40% of it. what does europe do to get more aggressive with russia, given energy. >> europe has to do something to counter russian aggression. it tried to do that through sanctions. on the other hand, the more it implements sanctions, the more it countersanctions, and if this continues, ultimately down the road russia can disrupt the supply of energy to europe, and that would unambiguously tip both russia, and europe into recession. this is a lose/lose situation. it is yet another reason why people are worried about the economy in europe. >> should we be worried about containablon to the united states if that happens. europe remains as a group, partner. >> it is.

it is, as a reason, the biggest economic region, you cannot be a good house in a deteriorating neighbourhood. in the global neighbourhood deteriorates, the u.s. would feel it. let's talk about what makes people prosperous. half of america is invested in the stock market, more americans in the housing market, upward of 60%, and we have seen a run up in home price values. let's talk about interest rates. at some point interest rates are going up, and mortgage points go up about what federal reserves does. what happens in a normal world when interest rates are in the 6-7% raping. >> in a normal world as interest rates go up, house affordability is hit, which means people are less able to spend homes. the housing market cannot contain the performance it might have.

i say in a normal world, they don't want to see rates go up. they'll do what it takes to delay that. we have a multitrack world of central banking where the fed is less accommodating, taking its foot a little off the accelerator. the ecb will get more accommodated, they'll press on the accelerator more. we have a world in which central banks don't want rates to go up aggress ily and people are confident pushing the prices higher, there's a level beyond which it doesn't make sense. the housing market is getting close to that level. >> to my viewer, who may have a mortgage or home purchase, the fed hasn't made a single move other than promoting a looser economy, or made a move on key interest rates in years. yet the 30 year fixed mortgage

has bon from the low 3 -- gone from the low 3%, to the high 4s, and down to 4% now. mortgage rates will move regardless. where do you see them going >> they'll go higher. if we have this discussion, mortgage rates will be higher. if you have not refinanced or locked in, do so now. don't necessarily lock in for 30 years, if you don't think stay in the home that long. most don't look at shorter annuities, because the shorter end is depressed. there's better value in mortgages. think clearly about how long, don't buy too much insurance, and terms of 30 year mortgages if you stay that long. >> i wonder if you have a few on conversion, american firms that find themselves buying or merging with a firm in another

country to relocate and take advantage of the lower tax regiment. this hit home to bee, because burger king was looking to take over coffee or doughnut places, taking over income taxes. what are your thoughts. >> inversions and more generally, noncommercial mergers and acquisitions have been behind a boom in m&a. inversions is really a company reacting to shareholders without taking the national interests into consideration. so from an individual company's poif, it makes sense to fry to arbitrage the tax regimes. from a country poif, it's problematic. if everything does it, it undermeans the context in which the companies operate. it speaks to something which is important, corporate tax reform, it's an element where there's complete agreement that

something need to be done, along with immigration, infrastructure, labour market. and yet... >> disagreement as to what that something is. >> and even when there's agreement to what that something should be, like immigration, no one wants to be seen collaborating or cooperating with the other side, because the disfunctional. >> when i look at mcdonald's and burger king. mondays has been an icon, publicly owned. it has ups and downs. it is american through and through. burger copying had been bought and sold, it was a private equity. do they care. there are a lot of companies that don't give a hoot. they want to be in a place where they play the lowest taxes. >> do they care, no, should they care, yes.

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welcome back to "consider this", i'm ali velshi in for por antonio mora. friday marks nine years since the largest hurricane touched down in new orleans. the storm displaced more than a million americans, causing 100 billion in property damage, and 1,800 lives were lost, including 1600 in louisiana. it wasn't a natural disasters, it was a tragic failure of leadership at every level of government, including f.e.m.a.'s response before and immediately following the storm. that mess turned into order when our next guess, you see him

here, was called into action, to oversee the u.s. military's response. russell honora nick naked the category 5 general for bringing stability to the region. retirement arm yirm general honora joins us from new orleans. good to see you. >> hello, ali. >> how did you get called into action? what happened, what was your briefing, what were your orders? >> we were tasked with helping with katrina. it was a continuing mission to provide military support to similar authorities. we have the mission on the warning over the weekend, and in order to deploy from mississippi, where my headquarters was at the time, into new orleans on tuesday evening. >> when you say provide support

to civil authorities, what were the problems, the mess that you walked into. people were homeless. the response was a disaster, now more than a million were displaced. there was all that stuff going on in doesn't new orleans. respond. >> the priority received if the governor of louisiana was to save people's lives, conduct evacuations, provide food and water to people. basically we had the same test. that was the focus, and a lot of people focused on new orleans. the disaster was bigger, as it happened, we had over 30,000 people in the city of new orleans. and new orleans and the regions around had been rebuilding since 2005. new orleans posed a particular problem. the city's population is almost

back up to pre-katrina levels. that was a sat part, the number of people that had to leave. we hear about new orleans police department. it was slow, no responses to 911 calls. the new york police department said it lost 500 police to resignation or retirement. when you look at that town or the place you are from, how do you police the same numbers of gone? >> you laid out the calculus. northerly, for the seize, would be a normal city. we are a destination, people come from around the world. we have mardi grass, festivals. the issue is how do you pay for it and keep the police department resourced so they can be a world class police department. with all due report, if we have better pay and a better professional development and

more officers, this department would become better overnight. >> that's an historic problem in new orleans, where there was corruption all those years ago because cops were paid less than someone else paid them. this is a big issue, northerly enjoys the status of being a world class city, it's a busy place, historic, beautiful, great culture, how endangered is new orleans from slipping back into chaos. >> the mayor and the leadership will not let it happen. they understand what they'll do, some of the problems are created by a state government who believes they can determine what the tax rates are. if new orleans was left to it its own, they will solve the problem. there is a state government. it has to be fixed. people of louisiana have to fix up.

this city is better in terms - we have more hotels, more restaurants, we are a city entre presentural center in the south, people are coming to start businesses, there's a lot that can be done, and a lot of opportunities. we have 25% of our population in poverty. those are the changes. this city has come a long way with a lot of federal help since kat katrina. >> you wrote a book been leadership. there was talk that you would run for the louisiana governor. i heard you talk, and the criticisms and the way you ashted, you said your -- acted, you said your platform want win. you are a son of indiana, this is personal for you, would you consider running. everywhere i talk to my platform, rebuilding education - there's about five different education platform, we are second to last, the

third-largest energy producer, and the second poorest state. the whole structure, the way we do schools, health care, all has to change. the rich people who made the win. >> it won't win. we'll revisit that. times. >> i want to play it. >> from the early days of katrina telling police and your men and women to put down your weapons, let's listen to this. >> weapons down, damn it. put your weapons down. >> and you are getting cheered on by people around you. shades of that issue, militarized police, police versus civil authorities were raised in ferguson missouri, you have been on the air waves

saying how you'd lal it differently. the need of police, you had a little different situation, police came in with a perception that people in the city would hurt them. we reminded people that they put their guns down. what i saw in ferguson, was a total wrong response, and every policeman i talked to, around the country, that is not the rite response. when people are exercising their first amendment, practicing dis-obeidens, and you need to rest them, you don't -- disobedience, and you field to arrest then, you don't point gun bs. they need to be retrained. they use the federal money as opposed to buying more equipment to buying more training and getter education of the police and better pay, to take care and

do the professional development. we ought not point weapons at our citizens. >> thank you for being with us. i hope if you decide to run for governor, you'll have that conversation with us and tell us about it first here at al jazeera. >> an eye opening america tonight special report. >> have you ever seen anybody get shot? >> one year later, correspondent christof putzel returns to the streets of chicago. >> i don't like walk out no more... >> why is that? >> a lot of shooting and stuff... >> a community still struggling against violence. >> i did something positive... >> have people lost hope? >> this is a grown man that shot a little kid. >> or have citizens made a difference? >> glad that somebody that's at least standing up and caring about us man... >> america tonight only on aljazeera america

welcome back to "consider this". imagine a college with no

lectures, frat earnties, sororities. you could be thinking about a promote for the future. higher education overhaul features an online system. student live in a dorm. let's talk to ben nelson, the founder, chairman of min everybodia project -- miner va project. a former c.e.o. of an online photo service snap. why do we need this? >> we need this because of two factors. number one, there's an elite set of universities the rite size 30 years ago, before the cold world was over, and before bright students could travel and seek out the best education. as the demand for universities

increase, and the supply limited, these universities have not had competitive forces, keeping them on top of the game, forcing them to innovate in the way that they deliver an excellent curriculum. what is necessary in the market is not just more seats available for the bright students, but also an increase in the quality of undergraduate experience. >> when the students entering this year graduate. do they take four years. >> yes. >> when do they have the degree. >> from the claremont. >> that is harvey. schools. >> it's not 100% online. they live in a campus. they, in fact - the first class isn't charged it's experimental. it will be about $28,000 a year. >> that's right. you have the cost of room and

board which is the bulk. you have to live and eat - we don't now how to make it cheaper than the cost associated with it. the tuition component of that is $10,000, a quarter of what the ivy league charges. even though the students are in residence, they are not in residence in a cloistered campus, they spend a year in berlin, and one in buenos aires. in the first year in san francisco for the fall year, in the second they plate in two and alternate in two locations and continue to live in a total of seven different cities over the four years. >> you are a warton grad. i know from my family they do well. you were involved in snap fish. why did you decide to get education? >> it's back to what i focused

on when i was a graduate. my parents are scientist, sisters in academic disciplines. when i was an undergrad, i realised i was the problem, not so much on the supply and demand side, but on the lowering and quality of undergraduate legislation. i lobby. and at the time penn was doing well. climbing up in the rankings, it wasn't an appetite that focuses on the forming of undergraduate. this is a way to go back and take the principles and create an institution around them. you can take the massive online courses. this is different. how are you placing this. how are you positioning this. this is not university of phoenix, this is not being able to join a random glass. you are trying to elevate online

collaborative learning to a different level. >> that's right. and, in fact, what penn and others are doing is proving the point that today's world is completely different. many universities, the great universities take courses and deliver them in full online for free. they are free for anyone in the world, except for those individuals who are admitted to the university, in which case conversations $5,000 per course. the take microeconomics, calc 2 or 3, you shouldn't pay that. it's broadcast information. in time technology will make it better, more adaptive and interactive. the mart of a university -- matter of a university education has to uplevel. it has to be about studies of areas not simply, that have more than one right answer, where you

have to look from different facets. that is what min everybodia is all about. >> they'll look and follow your success. thank you ben nell

c david hayman is a successful biog grapher for 30 years. he's profile jackie onasize is liz taylor and joe and marilyn was published in july. according to my next guest, his books are not worthy for another reason. they are littered with fabrications and made-up stories that sells books and has no basis in the truth. let's bring in ka couple of guests. he wrote the upcoming cover story. entitled "pulp fiction", david, according to you news week piece this guy has made up things for a long time. you wrote about his fabrications in 1993. i didn't know about the story, how did he get away with it.

>> it's an important question. in 1983 he wrote a book about barbara hutton, claiming he spent many trips and hours with her, and she had given him personal books. he had no notebooks, recordings, cary grant and others tole me things were not true, and he had made up material that came from another author who told me he had made up his stories about it. i was astonished that he published all the books, the last four through the books division of c.b.s., a - you corporation. >> didn't people get angry, that you spoke to, and sue him? >> a lot of people threatened to sue him. none of them deeply wanted to pursue it. there were women he accused of bad miskuftenght some stories were incredible.

he had robert f. kennedy as a freshman senator and wants to be president of the united states. stripping down in a public park in virginia having sex with a woman and running off when a patrol officer came along. according to the police department. he doesn't exist. no officer by that name, no report of that kind or anything else. there are hundreds and hundreds of flat-out fabrications. >> elizabeth taylor was the subject of his writing. and she also was alive when he wrote about her. was there a lawsuit there? >> well, yes. she filed a lawsuit and said "i never cooperated with these persons." the stories about husbands beating me is untrue. she was trying to block an n.b.c. miniseries based on his book. there were a lot who threatened

to sue, and promises that were not kept made. >> you write that the publishers look the other way. we are talking about major publishers and they continue to look the other way. his editor refused to talk to you. what is - how does it get to this point? >> i think there's a question about whether truth matters in this kind of publishing. c.b.s.'s book subdivision didn't want to hear whether or not news week found. the editor screamed at me saying "this is getting ugly", and hung up the phone. i have written press criticism, i'm the only journalist causing a broadcaster to lose their licence. i never had senior people do that. they have said "what do you have, we want to know?" by the way they are pushing

books by high school teachers to be assigned by teachers. and it was said that the c.b.s. has a lot to answer for, so far they are not. >> you are talking about pushing it on high school students, he's trying to sell "bobby and jackie", to teachers to be used in the classroom. we are not sure how much is true. at some point someone has to say, make it's as a result of stop. >> well, i hope so. one of the things that are troubling is there's three people. pierre, the press secrete george plimp tonne and jack, the journalist, who refused to cooperate with hayman. after they were dead he contributes some of his salacious stories for them. he asserts jack told him jacqueline kennedy was having sex with her husband's brother.

he had denounced this as a lie. how could c.b.s. not know that this man was fabricating the stuff. tees were open, clear badges of fraud. it seems to me you had to be wilfully blind not to know that. >> c david hayman died in 2012. he is not there to fight this topic. you would think at that point those publishing this would listen to you saying maybe we are doing something wrong here. >> i agree. someone would criticise me saying the guy is dead. the books are sold, prem oated to children. that got me on to it. it was like really, you would show this stuff to children. >> i don't understand the value of it being taught in high schools. good to see you. thank you for joining us. the conversation continues on the website aljazeera.com. or on facebook or google plus, or on twitter at

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