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history. the chinese company taking wall street by storm. natural born killers, why chimpanzees murder, and what it means for humans. we be gip in scrnd, where it's four in the westbounding we begin in scotland where it's 4 in the morning. polls say it's close. early results give the no vote a slight lead. polling stations around the country closed six hours ago. turn out high. ballot boxes have been taken to 32 regional centers for counting. final results expected in a few hours. lawrence lee has more on the vote from edinburgh. >> 4 million voters of scotland has not just the future for their own country. the decision they have been making reflects not just a

division of pps, about their own identity, political and economic views. a vote for independence will have discussions on the u.k., and its place in the wider world. >> the landscape painted by the unionists, no to independence campaign runs as follows, that scotland relies on membership of the u.k. for trade, as it would struggle not being able to share the u.k. pound or set up the institutions of state that the new country means. and that scottish and english cultures are interwoven, that the individual parts are less than the sum of them. >> but as the months of campaigning have gone on. the yes to independence campaign made huge inroads into all that. most scots see themselves as more scott ib and british.

the u.k. ruled by the money classes and the political elite, which lost popular respect, cannot answer to the wishes of the scottish people with a different set of opinions. the question should scotland be an independent part of the country. do you stick with what you know, or do you take control of your own history with all the risks that that may brick. >> what is the situation? >> results are coming in thick and fast. at the moment it's looking like scotland's will not be voting for political independence from the u.k. all of the results that have come in that have been bellwethers voted no. the western aisles which you expect to vote yes, voted no, almost the same as the exit poll after voting closed hours ago.

53-54% no, 46% yes. in ver collide, traditional working class base, the yes to independence would have wanted to win that, that's a narrow margin for no. 50-49.5% in favour of no. it's slight sli harder to call anything. the big population centers, glasgow, edinburgh and apper dean have to announce. approximatelisters are saying it's looking like it will be impossible for the yes to independence to make up the lost ground if you extrapolate the polling and results that came in so far. >> if the answer is no, what impact do you thip the yes voters have had on the process and the country. >> they managed to re-energise political debates not just here

in scotland, but around the u.k. as well. in this vote turn out in a majority of places has been well over 80%. but 90% in some places con drafted in other areas. there's disillusionment with politics run from westminster, not just here, but places outside of london, and the yorth of england. and what happened here, because of the yes to independence, it was given a fright to the ex-attend that kanye west offered. scotland's greater powers from that wirns is saying there needs to be an urgent review, with more federal powers for english

and welsh regions and in northern ireland. if the yes to independence campaign losses, they could argue that they have done everyone a favour by re-energizing interest in the elect rates over the u.k. . >> lawrence lee keeping us up to date from scotland. thank you. >> with the votes. intriguing and surprising details about scotland, and its polite war over independence. bisi onile-ere reports. >> reporter: it would seem this is a century old debate. it isn't. the push to separate from the u.k. started some 20 years ago. this is not about drawing a line in the sand and fighting over land and a border, it's a fight for political independence. scotland has been unhappy with the u.k. government. scotland is more liberal, england conservative. of the 59 scottish seats, the

conservative party has one seat. some say people who vote yes are voting out of patriotism. if scotland spreadsheets, the victory party will be crashed with a sobering reality of choosing a currency. while the queen doesn't have an opinion, it seems everyone does. harry potter, or j.k. rowling, she is on the side of everyone being better together saying:. >> b.c., thank you. mark is a journalist and professor at the college in brooklyn, he was born in scotland and lived in new york for the past 12 years, he's in the studio. welcome. >> thanks for having me. >> what do you think - four or five days ago we heard the no voters were beginning to make a

move. now it appears they did. why? >> the no voters - what happened was westminster panicked. we had a poll showing 51% yes. the prime ministers, and the leaders of other parties came up to scotland. they made vague promises to give it more cover, saying to the scottish people, you can run your own country and stay within the u.k. that had an effect pt the other thing that had app effect is alex salmond never nailed the issue of the currency, and the deal breaker was the lack of e.u. continued rites at the same level. >> you were there last week. >> yes. >> what was the mood? >> the mood was a lot of arguing. >> people falling out. >> really. >> husbands and wives.

>> disagreeing. >> i sat in my sister's house, everyone had a different view. it was... >> interesting. >> for the most part... >> sometimes families hang with political parties. this split them apart. >> it did. >> young and old. old and young. there was no - i didn't see the young people going one way, i saw across the board people - typical people, making their own mind up, their own people. >> is this good for your country, is it a good debate to have? >> it's great for scotland and better for the u.k. i used to work on a national group in scotland, talking to my friend. and they told me they have never seen anything like this, it's electric, energized and the people of england are learning from the process. what i hope or what i hope comes out of this is a move to a federal system where england,

scotland, wales and northern ireland run their own affairs, and sitting above them have a federal government of the the key thing is if it comes down marginally on the no side, i'll wait for glass kno. >> it's not down. >> it's 49-51. if it's marmginial, no. i'd think david cameron, the labour party leader has to deliver on the proposition made to pull the vote back. >> if it's a no vote, you believe it's energized your country. >> absolutely. >> a positive impact. >> on the whole. on the fringes there's within one or two ugly moments. the scottish electorate has been coughist kated on -- sophisticated on constitutional affairs. we grew up with scotland's relations with the rest of the u.k. it's sophisticated, educated

electorate. this has got them excited. >> we are watching live pictures of people watching returns come in carefully. and they are cheering. >> edjip borough. i think -- edinburgh. i think they were specting to go no. i can't see the numbers. i'd wait for glasgow. if glasgow doesn't swing it to the yes, then there's not likely to carry it. >> you had a tremendous turn out. >> it's been 90%. >> how often did that happen. >> 1918, 90% in most places. >> what does that tell you? >> it tells me that people are aware na scotland has a -- that scotland has a mace in the u.k. or doesn't have a place in the united kingdom. if it is going to have a place in the u.k., it has to be an different terms. at the best david cameron and ed

miliband and the liberals realise this and know that it has to be a different relationship. >> what they promise... >> i think it keeps a lot of people happy. that may have been on the ballot paper. more autonomy. if that had been on the ballot paper as many wanted, a lot of people would have voted for that. a large degree of autonomy. more autonomy will keep a lot of people reasonably happy. >> if by some chance it turns out to be yes, what does that mean? >> it means two or three years of uncertainty. >> chaos. >> not chaos. scotland - edinburgh is a financial center. aberdeen an oil center. >> it will be 2-3 years of uncertainty and tough negotiations and ugly negotiations. you know, divorces, i'm told,

are never simply, i've never had to experience that. >> sounds like there may be divorces in scotland over this. at least... >> indeed. >>..based on conversations at the dinner or family table. >> great to have you on the programme. thanks for your insight. >> there has been another propaganda video released by the islamic state of iraq and levant. al jazeera is choosing not to show it, showing a statement from kidnapped british journalist john can'tly, and he says "i.s.i.l. will reveal details about the group's motivation", and suggests more videos are on the way. they have released the bedheading of three western hostages already. the senate joined the white house in the supply of weapons. the plan is essential to defeat

i.s.i.l. >> strong bipartisan support shows the world that americans are united in combatting the force of i.s.i.l. >> mike viqueira has more. >> reporter: the white house says american military advisors could be on the front lines in iraq. advising iraqi force, but not engaging in combat. >> they are in an advise and assist role, carrying with it risening. it is different, the combat role that american troops are engaged in. >> on capitol hill, top administrative officials face skepticism, on what countries are contributing to the coalition. to win the fight we have to find fight ners. muslim part of ners, preferably sunni fighters. >> the question is not giving details on what neighbouring

nations are performing what roles. >> this is a complicated dynamic on a good day. there are many factions and factors that are flowing through this. >> and on taking the fight to i.s.i.l. on the ground inside syria. the president vowed to deprive i.s.i.l. of sanctuaries. within an estimated 20,000 fighters, officials say it will take up to a year to train and field fighters, and they'll number around 5,000. administration officials conceive that will not be enough:. >> the goal is to assure that moderate forces are superior fighters. trained by units. our goal is to undercut i.s.i.l.'s recruitment and enable the syrian opposition to add to the pressure i.s.i.l. is facing from the iraqi security forces and the security forces

of kurdistan. we want to force i.s.i.l. into a three-front battle against cape ail local forces. >> the cannes sit gave the go ahead -- senate gave the go ahead. >> the barbaric murder of americans to americans, they thought they could fight us, intimidate us or cause us to shrink. they are learning the same hard less on of tire ants that have gone -- tire ants that have gone before it. when you threaten the united states, when you threaten alike, it doesn't divide us, it unit us.. >> there was disagreement on whether the plan goes too far or not far enough. >> arming the rebels, and who they are today and where they may be 12 months from now, i don't know. the bigger issue is the arab countries. in the last few days they are starting to have conversations and wanting to participate, but

this is their country, their region. what are they doing, where are they stepping up to the plate more. >> the administration says that u.s. forces will not have a combat role. why is the president insisting on continuing to tell the enemy what he won't do. why is it that the president of the united states keeps telling the people that are slaughtering thousands "don't worry, we won't commit ground troops. >> omar is the acting vice president for the middle east and africa center at the u.s. institute of peace. welcome. >> thank you for having me. >> can this plan that the president has proposed and now approved by congress to aid the syrian rebels, will that work? >> i think that it's an important step that we sa seen and for a while we were hesitant from the policy makers to agree

in terms of commitment from the syrian side. we have seen quick response. it's a step in the rite direction much it's important to emphasise that what we need to defeat i.s.i.s., is truly a political solution. >> how can the united states make sure that it's giving arms to the right people, and they'll do what the united states wants them to do? >> i think the reality is that they can't, one of the things that has to be accepted with the strategy is that there is a large number of risks, no matter what the reashunss are, that we found way -- reassurances are, that we found ways, but the reality is we can't control the groups or those trained or that people may be committed today, but after a few month, may return to the primary target which is at that. there's a large risk with the strategy. at the same time there's a greater risk than letting

i.s.i.l. grow as it begins to cease more territory. >> you bring up the point on something other than military action. iraq, as long as the united states has been involved this iraq, we have been saying that it doesn't need a political solution, and yet it seems that they are as far away as ever from a political solution, right? >> i think they are. i think as far away as ever, they did have - maliki replaced a new government. a kurdish regional government, and more and more sunni leadership. it's fragile and could fall apart at any point. we have been calling for a political solution, for inclusive government, and been standing on the sidelines, hoping the iraqi officials can

find the solution. there needs to be an active role from the u.s. >> what does that mean? >> well, it means not only convening the people in terms of making agreements, but putting more emphasis on fulfilling those agreements and having more use of our political capital, pressure to fulfilling the agreements made. the iraqi constet use provide - go ahead. >> sorry to interrupt. what about the reaction we heard on the senate floor, suggesting what are the regional arab governments doing about the region where they live? >> i think that's an important question, in terms of the regional governments you see them coming together in terms of a coalition, the question is what can they do on the ground to provide a balance in terms of the international community. the reality, though, is that many people in the region point back that a lot of vak ums of

power resulting in the ideology creating groups like i.s.i.s., came because of the intervention. many say it's a shared responsibility. i.s.i.s., and its ideology is something that is an international threat, and cannot turn to the neighbouring country, it needs to be shared globally in being able to tackle that threat. >> good to have you on the programme. thank you for joining us. >> thank you. >> tomorrow que hope you join us for a special report "fighting i.s.i.l.", an indepth look on stopping the threat of i.s.i.l. it's during the prime time newscast. coming up later this hour, it's expected to be the largest ipo in u.s. history. alibaba, the ecommerce company could fetch $70 a share. plus... >> i'm paul beban, live from a scottish bar near times square

as home watch an historic vote to determine the future of their nation. i'll have more on their reaction coming up. >> life changing moments >> i had never been bullied, everyone hates me... >> from oscar winning director, alex gibney, a hard hitting look at the real issues facing american teens. the incredible journey continues... on the edge of eighteen only on all jazeera america

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california. a 35-year-old man charged with starting the king fires in eldar ardo county. it burnt 71,000 acres of forest and is threatening 12,000 homes. strong winds and california's drought conditions fuelled the flames. the governor declared a state of emergency for parts of the state. meteorologist kevin corriveau is here with more on it. >> before we go to the fire. the fears are 65% or more contained. that is good news for the other fires. this is the king fire. i want to go closer so you can see the magnitude. there is lake ta ha. this is the king fire. 3,000 people are evacuated. 70,000 acres burnt today. that is up from 24,000 yesterday, so that has - you can see how much it has increased in

intensity and size just in 24 hours. we have about 25,000 firefighters on the ground right now. unfortunately they do not know when this will be contained. 5% is contained. it has threatened many homes. we are looking at a change in the atmosphere. the fire is burning here. this is a water vapour shot. the orange is dry air. white or green is moisture coming into play. there's moisture coming in from the north-west. and temperatures coming down a little bit. we are dealing with the windy conditions, and the drought situation which we cannot change, but hope to get a little more humidity into play over the next couple of days. >> thank you, let's get back to the vote for independence. many scottish americans are awaiting results. paul beban is at a schoolish bar

in new york -- scottish bar in new york city where it's crowded and loud and he has been getting reaction. paul. >> that's right, it is crowded and loud. the atmosphere festive, and most of the people are in favour of independents. this gathering was organised by a group called americans for scottish independence. if there are no votes, they are keeping it on the down low, a proindependents move. the results have been coming in, so far not in favour of independence. only a couple of district voting yes. the vast majority voting no. people are optimistic, hoping the tide will turn in their favour over the course of the night. >> one of the people i want to bring this is the former leader of the scottish youth parliament, involved in other socialist issues, but was instrumental in helping 16 and 17-year-olds get the vote in

this election. >> tell me about your role in that? >> i spent the last decade trying to ensure that the young people have a rite to vote. it's inspiring to see 16 and 17-year-old with a chance to vote, and they are turning out in record numbers. it is an inspiration to the world. i hope it's a yes, but i think there'll be change in the u.k. either way. >> are you concerned regardless of the outcomes, the process has been divisive. >> i think there has been healthy debate, and it's great for democracy, there'll be healing that had to happen. what it's done is inspire people to be engage the in the decisions that affect their lives, it's powerful to see a country like scotland with 87, 88% turn out. inspiring for the world.

there are more people like young scots on the streets in the ballot box, speaking their minds, shaping a new future. i think they'll get a new future. >> you can see the enthusiasm for the process. one person that said no matter what, scotland is still a team. a lot in the balance, but a lot of mutual goodwill. >> we'll keep watching. >> thank you. coming up next - ayton was the first missing child featured on a milk carton. 35 years later the accused killer's confession. >> and primates - why they tend to be so violent. @j

this is al jazeera america, i'm john seigenthaler in new york. coming up, the polls in scotland now closed - ballots counted, the world will know if the u.k. will no longer be united. coming up. plus, a confession in one of the country's notorious kidnappings, etan patz, the first missing child to appear on a milk cart job. and killing the competition - a study about why chimpanzees murder.

it has been a nervous night in scotland, and by breakfast time people should know whether they'll be part of the u.k. lawrence lee should be covering this story for us. what is the latest on the count? >> the declarations are coming in thick and fast, one every few minutes. half the seats in the country have declared. there was a moment, half an hour ago when it was almost neck and neck. the first big vote for yes, dundee, 57 yes to 43% no. it was almost 50/50, jurisdiction 1,500 in it. sense then there has been more announcements, and they have been no. the biggest a minute or two ago, which is aberdeen.

175,000, self-styled capital voted no. that will be a blow to the yes campaign. a lot of oil riggers working out at sea would want to vote yes. at the moment it's 45% yes, 55% no. glasgow is absolutely critical. that will declare within half an hour to an hour. if it's not a big yes, it's looking bad for them, i think, as the rest of the night goes on. >> is there a sense that the plea from david cameron made a difference in the vote tonight. >> i'm not sure david cameron made a big difference. i think what you saw over the last fortnight was the better together, the no to independence has been accused by its own side of a staggering sort of complacency and aassumption that it would win.

and was not prepared for this incredible tightening of the polls, culminating a week last sunday, when one poll put the yes to independence ahead. from that point onwards they managed to get some passion. they wheeled out gordon brown a former prime minister, and he made an important speech on tuesday, a couple of days ago. that, i think, because he's a scott, may have made a big difference, and the yes campaign slid away slightly. it's close, it's not over yet. >> i want to go back to the picture we had a second ago, from glasgow in scotland, and a little while ago a cheer from the no headquarters. so information is coming in about the vote - that they are happy about, that's the no vote there, but they are still waiting, and patiently waiting for those results.

we heard from lawrence lee, the results from glasgow could have a big impact on the final result tonight. we'll continue to follow it with you. tennis star andy murray declared his yes vote on twitter. the internet erupted forcing the scottish athlete to say he'll still play for great britain, no matter the results. >> for many it's an emotional decision, now, one that voted yes. >> i'm james mcinerney, i'm from the coast of scotland and i voted yes to an independent scotland. i voted yes because i believe very much that scotland can be better. the only way to achieve the things i deeply believe in, things like social justice, a more equal and fair society, i believe that the best way for those to be achieved for the

people of scotland, i can't see any other way that can be achieved, other than independence for scotland. the occasions which affect the people of scotland should be made by the people of scotland. the notion is that the economy will collapse - that's fans: realistically it's a scare story. a great thing about today, regardless of which way people voted. for the first time the votes for the people of scotland matter. for one day, 15 hours. we really do carry. it will make a difference to our country, that has not happened. the votes don't have that sort of power. my vote absolutely counts, and i think that is something that everybody in scotland can be proud of regardless of which way they chose to vote. if we are not successful, we

have to be turned to making scotland the best company it can be within the u.k., and as a consequence making the u.k. a better place for everybody. >> that's one point of view. mark mc-sherry is a business journalist and communications professor at st. francis college in brooklyn, born in scotland recollects lived in new york, and is back with us again. this is going down to the wire, it sounds like. >> it got close when the dundee vote came in, not as heavy yes as the nationals hoped. sterling came in no, and faulkner. it's coming down to glasgow, the last hope for the yes campaign. the big home is glasgow, a lot of votes. if they have a big yes, it could be interesting. as things stand it's looking like 55% no, 45% yes. i wouldn't call it until glasgow comes in. >> millions and millions of

scottish citizens like yourself live outside of scotland. but they couldn't vote. >> yes. >> your feeling. >> scandal. >> you were upset. >> very cynical. i guess the snp decided that the ex-patriots were likely to vote no, and they shut out. despite people paying tax for more than 20 years, i have not met a scot happy about being shut out. >> do you think the idea if you live there you should be able to vote. but if you don't you shouldn't. >> i think people like myself who are born and live there, they should have been able to vote. >> paul beban is at a scottish barr in new york, and talked to a young man involved with the movement to get young people to vote yes, and he thought that 16 and 17 - he thinks it's a great

thing. that 16 and 17-year-old's can participate in the process. >> you say to that. >> i say to that, yes. >> maybe 17 to 18-year-olds. i don't want to deny people. that, again, was - in my opinion, it was opportunistic by the yes, the people behind the yes campaign. good luck to the young people. i am sure many 16-year-olds made sensible and informed decisions. you agree if glasgow goes know, it's over. >> it's very difficult for the yes to win. if they end with 45% or more. >> can i interrupt. listen in to an announcement we are getting from the referendum. the scottish independence. >> 88.7%. the yes vote 50, 489.

the no was 58, 830. and there were 107 rejected papers. midlothian - 60,395 papers counted. turn out was 86.8%. the yes votes for 26,370, the no votes from 33,972. and there were 53 rejected papers. angus - the ballot papers counted were 80,302. the turn out was 85.7%. the yes votes from 35,044. the no vote... >> i want to bring you back in. when they talk about rejected votes, is that like the happening... >> spoilt votes. people who instead of ticking the box, maybe wrote something.

people that didn't do it properly. >> can you explain why it's tape so long to count the votes? >> what is it... >> there's no exit polls this time around. the mechanics of the election is different from a general election, and wasn't logistically possible to have exit polls as per normal. >> mechanical. it's a paper ballot. they have to be individually counted. >> i don't think so. >> it's not like they were going through machines. >> i was not allowed to vote, i can't tell you. >> the counting process takes as long as it takes. >> it's manual. >> does it go as late as it does? >> to five, six in the morning, seven, later, if it's from the outer islands, yes. >> if you are a scottish citizens, are you waiting up all night long to find the results. >> yes. >> the whole country of scotland

has their eye on information. >> many stay up until six in morning. in "79, 78, but i think if the yes goat end up with 45% or more, it's a big result giving them a mandate making sure that david cameron delivers on the powers, the increased levels of powers that he is promising for the scottish parliament. they'll be disappointed they didn't win. 45 or above gives them a strong mandate. we will wait for the manual vote count. thank you for doing that. >> the final results are in another closely watched vote in scotland. it took place at the legendly royal and ancient golf club at st andrew's. lee wellington explains. >> reporter: the yes decision

has implications. the royal andrew club has a lot of power in world gulf, particularly outside of america. it runs the golf championship where courses and clubs ply. one is royal trune and that is male only, pressure may be applied to change the policy. another of the open championship courses, male only, and at some stage i expect them to have a vote. what you will not get is lots of female members joining us at st. andrews much there's only 2,400. that's not that many. what you'll get is some high profile golfers and figures invited to join. like when the former u.s. secretary of state condoleezza rice was invited to join augusta in 2012. the irony is women have been playing on the course and some

are happy with the clubs they are members of, and may not want to join the royal and ancient, but at least the decision to apply is in their hands. >> lee wellington reporting. it's the missing child's case that grabbed new york's attention, and stumped police for decades. the disappearance of 6-year-old etan patz in 1979. the man suspected of killing etan patz appeared in court. pedro hernandez was arrested in 2012 after police got a tip from a relative. he recorded three separate confessions. the suspect has pleaded not guilty. the attorney says the confessions are falls. lisa is the author of "eton the missing child case holding america hostage", and is a professor at the columbian school of journalism. she's in the studio. pleasure to have you. why did the case capture new york's attention, the country's

attention? >> the reason it captured the country's attention is because it captured new york's attention. it happened over 35 years ago. the book i wrote is - i wrote that title in part because there was a before etan patz and an after etan patz. and i thip after he disappeared, it was one of the first teems that parents had in their mind that it could happen to anyone. he's young, beautiful. his father was a professional photographer, he still is, and he took beautiful portraits of him. they were out there. >> talk about your background. this was personal for you because you followed this story. >> i got into it years after he disappeared. in the early '90s, i was at abc news, there was another man

considered to be a prime suspect and we did a story about how investigators were pursuing him. >> why were you drawn to the story. >> there were a couple of reasons, one was that it's never ending. all the investigators, all the reporters, citizens that followed the case. people would get it in their heads and never let it go. so many felt for the family. i was one of them. i think there's a little bit of - you can't walk away from it. >> there was one man considered the prime suspect, and this counter suspect confessed. talk about the hearing on the dismissility of the taped confession. >> he confessed two years and some months ago, and after confessing his lawyer was brought into the case. he had a serious history of

mental illness, he has been diagnosed as schizophrenia, bipolar, and the defense argues that at the time that he confessed he didn't know what he was saying. >> could have made it up? >> i don't know about making it up, he may have believed that it happened, and if it's not true, and he didn't do it, he is a false confessor in a way that people are who feel that they have done it. and there's a history of that. >> so the question is whether or not it will be dismissible. >> right. the defense argues that it's the main piece of evidence against him, if not the only piece against him. >> it's been so long too, right. >> yes. >> and there are things that he said that don't jibe with what we know about the case, it's difficult to understand. >> this family, how are etan patz' family doing now. >> it's been 35 years.

they have been through so many iterations of this case. generation, literally, of detectives and prosecutors vetted this case over and rock investigated this case obvious and over. they've been in it for the long game. they don't hear anything and say this is definitive. they are waiting to hear everything, they are still waiting. >> 35 years later. >> yes. >> "after eton", that's the book. tomorrow, the choinees ecommerce powerhouse alibaba will debut. that would make it the biggest stock offering in u.s. history. adrian brown has more. >> alibaba has come a long which quickly. this is one of it 10 million

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alibaba, rampant counterfeiting. fakes have appeared on his website. recently removed from the u.s. government's list of markets. many call him a visionary, but one with authoritarian tensedies. >> he's like a typical chinese company and jacque marr is like the only boss. >> marr is offering a slice of the internet market. more than 600 users, there'll be caution. alibaba tried to float on the hong kong exchange. the shares were brought back by the company. >> ahead of the flotation, jack mar outlined priorities for alley boba. customers first, employees second and shareholders third. a different business model to those in the west.

the challenge will be to suk seed once the business is publicly owned. a new study into chimpanzee and violence. many blame the bad influence of humans. the new study says the chixes are the ones to blame. jacob ward explains. >> the purpose of this research was to determine whether human intrusion made chimpanzees more violent. the answer was no. the reach out of the university of minnesota and harvard is based on five decades of crime data among our closest animal relatives, reverying a few vass nating points of comparison, and how and why humans kill one another. there are a few striking similarities between us and our primate cousins. the malls were almost always the

ones doing the killings. 92% perpetrated by human being, cannot with humans, where 90% involved males much the more males, the more likely murder, and the more density, the more murder in chimpanzee society. however, it's the differences between humans and apes that is most striking. human murderers act alone, but the median number of chimpanzees is five. beating and biting a victim and leaving them to die. chimpanzees kill strangers over territory and resources. human most often kill someone they know, often intimately, a spouse or partner, someone close to them. >> here is where we fall away from primates. >> as professor black made a history of examining.

human law has punished the killing of a stranger more severely than the killing of a spouse. >> in fact, the data shows cap till punishment is almost exclusively reserved for those that kill a stranger. jim pan zees rarely kill a member of their social circle. >> we kill people and punish that less severely. i spoke with dr jane goodell, her work defines them and ourselves. i asked about violence. she said murder was betweenam always rival unit, she described it as gang warfare. in the few occasions where there was violence within a social unit or family, she noticed one thing they do better. >> they are good at reconciling after conflict like that, and the victim will be the lower ranking one is the one that

approaches the aggressor and reaches out a hand. for a reassuring pat, hug, tip and everything is relaxed. >> in many ways chimpanzees preserve their relations better than we do. maybe that is an important thing that we have learned. >> jacob ward, thank you. more excitement over the scottish independent vote and our picture of the day is coming up next.

we are looking at live pictures from a no headquarters. still counting the votes. here is the latest information we have now. 20 out of 32 distributes in scotland reporting. 44.7% yes, no, 55.3%. and as you can see, this is the no camp.

cheering at additional results that they are receiving as they watch television in scotland as we cover this now. [ singing ] that is a scottish trio singing scotland's national an them. i believe in new york it's not just independence, scottish pride is on the line. final results are expected within the next few hours. paul beban has been talking to scottish americans gathered at a bar in new york city. so, paul, are the independent supporters optimistic tonight. >> they are optimistic and hopeful. a moment ago the bagpipe music ended, kicking into high gear after the yes vote from glasgow.

a positive swing in their direction. this bar is mainly filled with yes supporters. strongly favouring independence. this is organised by a group of scottish americans who are in favour of independence. if there's anyone that will vote no, they are keeping it under wraps. i'm talking to people all night. let's hear what they had to say about this. >> i'm a bit disappointed but excited. i'm hopeful. you never know. we'll wait and see. >> the whole experience by the scottish people abroad and home has been great. i think tomorrow scotland, family, friend, neighbours will go on with our lives and do what we have to do. it's a great thing for the scottish people. >> at the end of the day we are scottish. if it's a yes vote, great.

>> there's a lot of camaraderie, people will be here until the wee hours, and they are hoping to wake up to a taste of independence for the first time in three centuries. >> paul beban in new york at a scottish bar as they watch and wait. that's the programme for tonight. "america tonight" is next. i'm john seigenthaler. see you back here tomorrow night. on al jazeera america vé

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