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retaliati retaliation. hi, i'm antonio mora, welcome to "consider this", those stories and more ahead. >> united states took action to protect and remove the capability to act. >> all the people and governments of the middle east are rejecting i.s.i.l. the strength of the coalition makes it clear this, is not america's fight alone. >> it's an impress ishow of force. there's always the day after. >> it risks inciting terrorists hating america, and blow back. >> children pay the heavy price. >> 3 million children are out of school. >> children with a horrified look of a marine returning from war. >> the center for december control says ebola could reach... >> 1.4 million. >> if we don't stop it soon, it could turn from a disaster to a catastrophe. >> change christopher gibson is a nears -- climate change is a serious threat. >> you can make history.
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we begin with the opening sal scros in an american-led campaign controlled by illinois, and the khorasan group, an al qaeda-led group. more strikes were reported after pilots and warships hit communication centers, training camps with smart bombs in northern syria. cruise missiles pounded security use by the khorasan terrorist group, and president obama said the u.s. would do what is necessary to ensure the country's security and the world's. >> once against, it must be clear to anyone plotting against america, and trying to do americans harm, that we will not tolerate safe havens for terrorists that threaten our people. >> while i.s. dug out of the rubble. pentagon officials warned that
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degrading and defeating the group will take years. >> they are well funded. they will react to what we have done. >> reports claim the leader of al nusra front was killed in an air strike. a european fighter for al nusra, believed to be score supporting the khorasan group in syria insisted the fight will go on. >> the americans are relentless and harsh in their fight against the muslims. we will stay strong. we will keep on fighting the enemies. >> for more on the coalition strikes, i'm joined from washington d.c. by the press secretary rear-admiral john kirby. always a pleasure to have you with us. >> how important was the first step.
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how do you measure success when you start a campaign like this? >> it is not insignificant in the first steps from an air strike perspective that we were able to garner the support of five arab nations who participated in the missions. not all of them in the form of air streaks, but all participan participants. it speaks clearly to the threat that i.s.i.l. poses not just to us and our interests, but the interests of those who have to live in the region against this kind of challenge that they are facing. we were thrilled we were able to get that kind of support. i'll tell you from a practical perspective that we were success: we are assessing and will throughout the day. we are analysing the degree to which what targets were hit, and how well they were hit. everything that we have seen indicates that the strikes were
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successful. >> some said i.s.i.l. may pull out of areas where they may be hit. martin dempsey, joipt chief of staffs said there were indications that they were talking about how they'd have to adapt tactics. did we have to speed up planning to make sure we caught them? >> i'm not aware of any specific change to the planning structure. this is an adaptive enemy. they are smart, cagey. we saw them change their operation, and we expect them to change now we are hitting them in syria. that's what groups like this do. we are adaptive foe ourselves, we are smart about this, we have been doing this for 13 years and will investigate the kind of
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activities we hit in syria. >> this is a group that found sanctuary, and they were able to train forces, equip them, sustain them, plan and plot. everything that we went after last night was aimed at trying to disrupt the ability to do that, to command and control and lead their forces. you are talking about them being adaptive. how much of a danger do they pose the pilots? do they have the ability to shoot down coalition war perhaps. the group claimed to have downed more than one syrian jet fighter with ground-based missiles. >> i would rather not get into to much on the intelligence side. we have heard their claims. before we put a pilot in ab aircraft we factor in everything that we can when it comes to force protection, safety and presentative measures.
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it's noteworthy that not a something aircraft was fired on or lost. all pilots returned their planes, and they returned them healthy, themselves and air crafts. successful from that perspective and something that we are carefully preparing for. >> you talked about the significance of the five sunni arab states providing assets. four of them ken etic action in the bombing, including reports that raptors, f22s, coming from the united arab emirates. how significant were the contributions? >> they were very significant, and on the third wave of the strikes, half of the aircraft that flew were from the arab nations, not the united states. there were significant contributions, and we are grateful for that participation. yes, they were drct.
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>>. >> do you expect them to continue? >> we certain hope so. i don't want to telegraph future operations, as you know. >> not so much whether the u.s. will attack on a daily basis or not. but do you expect the coalition to contribute that ken etic force that you talked about. >> we hope that that continues. we can't speak for other nations or what they'll contribute. we were grateful for the support and look to and hope it will continue. >> let's talk about the strikes on the khorasan group, the al qaeda affiliated group. do we have an assessment on whether we managed to disrupt the ability. >> we are assessing those strikes. we believe that we have disrupted the group's capabilities, we were in the final staples of planning for an attack, perhaps in europe and
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the homeland. we hit them pretty hard. we know that we have disrupted the capabilities. the degree to which we did that, we are trying to figure it out. can you speak to whether the plot as has been reported to develop a bomb, a nonmetallic bomb that could be part of clothes or a toothpaste container? >> no, i don't have much detail on that, i'm afraid. we are not going to talk about intelligence matters here. all i can say is we have good, solid information that they were nearing the end game, planning for an attack. >> has the mission grown. as you know, the president called this a counter terrorism operation, and you were amongst the first to describe it as a war against i.s.i.l., similar to the war against al qaeda. martin dempsey suggested the possibilitiy of u.s. combat
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troops, the administration said no, but the president said on tuesday, we'll do what is necessary to take the fight to this terrorist group. how do you interpret that? >> the mission changed overtime. no doubt about that. the strikes we conducted inside iraq were of a defensive nature. the commander in chief said we'll be going on offense. in iraq and syria, in that regard the mission cheanged or time as the threat changed. it's not insignificant na many nations are willing to join us. we are talking today about the sunni arab nations that participated in the air operations last night. but there are 40 other nations around the world who have agreed to contribute in some way, in some form or fashion to anti-i.s.i.l. efforts.
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this is becoming a very global effort, and i think that that speaks broadly to the threat that this group poses not just to america and iraqis and syria, but to the aspirations of being a wider, broader challenge to other countries. >> retire admiral john kirby, we appreciate you taking the time to join us to discuss all this. thank you. >> thanks for having me. for more, i'm joined by washington d.c. by douglas oliphant. he served two tours in iraq. was a contractor for the government in afghanistan, he led a team that helped to coordinate pt 2006 verge in iraq. and is a senior fellow at the new america institution. are you surprised by the attackses against i.s.i.l. waves of strikes, training
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camps, communications and command and control facilities? >> this is what we need to do if we are serious. again, we are just doing air strikes, and we don't have a plan to throw the islamic state out of syria, but we do have a plan for the iraqi side of the border. we need to think of the strikes as being in support at least for now of the main effort that is going to occur in iraq. we do have proxies on the ground, of various sizes and levels. >> talking about getting serious, how important is it for the ongoing effort, for the sunni arab says to take place in the strikes against sunni arab extremist. qatar covered in support, the others in kinetic action. do you think the nations will contribute as we go forward. >> we hope they do.
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in terms of military capability, what they bring to the table is mentalingible -- negligible. in terms of politics, it's important to show to the sunni citizens of iraq and syria, that the sunni states are on board in helping to destroy i.s.i.s., and it's not about helping out the bashar al-assad regime or iraq. it's extremely important optic. let's break what you said down into two parts. >> the first is will the sunni support counter claims that this is really a broad coalition, and this is an american western war on islam? >> i am sure that narrative will always be there. but the appearance of saudi and u.a.e. planes departments it, making it harder - sorry, making it difficult for that to be seen
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as a plausible claim. >> the other thing you were talking about is u.s. could have done this on its i don't know. how much do you think those nations participated. was it more than symbolic? >> i wasn't there counting the planes. i'm not sure what the percentage was of sortees flown. had one of these nations pulled out we could have put our planes in to take out the targets they were taking out. everyone nose the united states air force is a premier air force. it could do it by itself. the participation is so important of these nations and i am sure they were given real targets. they weren't just along for the ride. the stricts weren't against specific leaders, is that because it's too hard to find the leaders, do you think we
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this if we were able to get its leader. >> i don't think. even if we were to kill the leader tomorrow, abu bakr al-baghdadi, and i'm all for that, that will not severely damn the islamic state. this is not a cult of abu bakr al-baghdadi. they are loyal to the islamic state, and the caliphate. he proved to be an effective leader, i suspect more will be waiting. >> an act visit in raqqa, an activist of a group that opposing i.s.i.l., he told al jazeera that people were welcoming the air strikes and said: now that we hear there has been
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civilian casualties, are you concerned that the support for the air strikes might weaken. critics of the bombing say they were creating more enemies. >> that's a danger with any military action. it's particularly on the table with air strikes, and land power also has cole atoral damage as well. any time you use action, there's a possibility almost a certainty of collateral damn. it can interpret people who knew them or were related to them. if my son, or your daughter or mother were killed, it would change the way we thought about them. >> the shadowy figure, khorasan, we talked about it last week. national deputy security advisor
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ben rhodes said america believed they were plotting an attack against the united states. what do you think we need to do. do you think air strikes will be effective in eliminating a group like that. >> sounds line this is a smaller more focused group. air strikes may help. there may come a time when a j sock or the seals or the delta force needs to take action against the group. it's an important reminder that while i.s.i.l. is the danger. it's by no moons the only one. it's running around there, al nusra, and the smaller groups. it's important not to forget that. >> the u.s. did not act alone against the khorasan group, and we'll talk more about them coming up. douglas oliphant, good to have you with us. >> my pleasure. >> now for more stories from
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around the world. we gee bip in the west bank where tuesday morning israeli troops cornered and killed two palestinian me suspected of kidnapping and killing three israeli teens, leading to a 7-week war between israel and hamas. they denied involved in the kidnapping and killings and then admitted responsibility last month. special forces surrounded a village where the two men were holed up. it was condemned as an assassination. despite the let'soric -- rhett yoric peace talks continued. >> a syria plane flue half a mile no israel ci air space and was shot down. the pilot ejected coming down in syrian territory. >> next we head to downtown new york where a judge suspended
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osama bin laden's son-in-law to a life-time in prison. he was found guilty of trying to kill americans and providing support for terrorists. the most senior osama bin laden to be tried in court, he became the voice of terrorist in recruitment tapes much the defense asked for 15 years sentence, but the judge chose life after he showed no remorse. >> we end in midtown new york as the united nations held a climate summit. the one-day event featured activists, current and former world leaders. president obama touted the american success in cutting pollution were power plants and plenged to reduce the nation's 2005 carbon emissions by 2020. he acknowledged america's role in dealing with change christopher gibson, but said --
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change christopher gibson, but said -- climate change, but said everyone neez to be -- needs to be involved and is seen as a step before the talks in paris. coming up, less than 24 hours after air strikes in syria, the terror attack was raised. should we be worried about an attack at home. what impact will it have on the children already suffering. the head of save the children joins us with two remaining reports. harmeli aregawi is tracking the top stories on the web. >> a mastermind behind inflammatory ads is an ipp cityingator, and i'll -- instigator, and i'll tell you more. join the conversation.
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fears of terrorist retaliation led the fbi and homeland security to issue a joint bulletin across the u.s. on tuesday. it warns military action against terrorist groups in syria and iraq could embolden terrorists to attack the u.s. an urgent reason was a serious threat from an al qaeda group. u.s. officials say the group headed by an osama bin laden operative poses a threat to the u.s. and europe. >> we believe the khorasan group was nearing the execution phase of the attack in europe or the homeland. we know that the khorasan has attempted to recruit we werers to serve -- westerners to serve as operate ist. >> terrorist blow back could turn to saudi arabia. an i.s.i.l. fighter threatening the saudis. robert mcfadden joins us now.
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he worked on the u.s.s. "coal" bombing, and is an expert on transnational movement and is the senior vice president at the sufan group, providing strategic intelligence services. pleasure to have you with us. you heard that the group may have been planning an american state, and was working with a bomb maker that tried to do the failed underwear bomb, and are talking about different possible bombs to avoid aeroplane detection, including clothes, nonmetallic things that may not be detected by current security. how big a threat to do you think the group was or is. >> it's the culmination of information getting into the public realm.
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we were aware that three operatives from al qaeda central had gone into syria. one was killed, he was going to be an envoy. the two in yemen send down raping as part of the team to doing transnational operation. we are calling them the khorasan group. that is part of al qaeda central's mooed us operandi and has been from the beginning until now. as it exits. >> attacking the west. >> that's what it exists for, to phnomment resolutions within arab gulf countries by going after the enemy of islam, and that is the philosophy. talking about how dangerous the threat is, it's significant what the senior officials said, that the gel sense or indications as to how much of the forward progress of the group is interrupted via the strikes. >> what do you think.
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the hope expressed is that it has been interrupted. it's difficult to know that. >> well, since the news broke, the first thing that jumps to mind is the intelligence must have been good for a targeted strike like this, and if it is, in fact, from al qaeda, same modus operandi, you can bet it was a small group, because it wasn't there to fight the bashar al-assad regime. similar to what became 9/11. it's a team for developing and planning. that plot in an apartment with less than a handful of deputies. >> they are not out there trying to control territories of i.s.i.l., it was wherever they are to attack the west. the intelligence or information is very important immediately after, in the period that follows, as to how much was
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disrupted. >> part of the lan is not just i.s.i.l., but those that sympathise with i.s.i.l., and those that work with i.s.i.l., men's that have gone over there and are back in the crates, may have reacted with anger. after any major u.s. military intervention, there's typically a prudent heads-up alert. it makes assistance for law enforce. security elements and the public to be in a situational awareness, or standing. i have not heard anything about specific intelligence in the group. if they take the lop wolf or small -- lone wolfs are small groups, whether it's this brand of extremism or far right, and they act when the time is right for them. it's not necessarily now.
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>> a decade ago it was said we cannot allow failed states tore parts of any country to become law less as they become a sanctuary for terrorists, as we see happening in iraq. why have we not learnt the lessons, that we can't let the groups grow? >> well that's oppression finding by the 9/11 commission, exactly that. al qaeda groups, querm nation -- germ nation grew as part of afghanistan. where you see areas awash in weapons, often conflict, tribal clan against the government. you have areas where the groups flourish. to mind thoi, it never has about -- though, it never has been nor will be a movement.
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almost every situation, syria and iraq - they are the result of local conditions. so those kind of incubators are a factor, but for the united states alone to do something about that. >> all over the world. it's hard to do. >> extraordinary. exactly. >> a quick question much danger for the sunni arab countries that participated in the attacks. we are talking about the west. they also are certainly threatened. >> you try to guard against hyperbole. it's close to rackable about how far the coalition is prepared to take the constructive acts. through diplomacy and tough talk, it appears they realise they have more at stake. they must get in the fight. important thing with knowing the risk, but it's more important that they push back on this thing that eventually will be a threat to their country. >> robert mcfadden, great to
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have you with us. >> before the air strikes, i.s.i.l. had been on a rampage in northern syria, taking dozens of towns and forcing 150,000 to escape the terrorists. for more on what capitol hill and the military operation means for civilians and children, we are joined in new york by carr scro line meals -- caroline miles, from save the children. their latest report, education has never been deadlier for syrians, show that schools have been a target during the 3.5 year civil war. good to see you. the numbers in the report are stunning. 3,465 schools in syria either destroyed or damaged. others occupied by who nose what military group. this is a country that has a
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successful system, and now has the second worst rate in the world. >> there's essentially there was 100% school eb roll. . it was an area where pretty much every country went to school. you see second-worst, and in maybe of the towns and communities, inside syria, more than 50% of the kids are out of school. and there are refugees, 3 million refugees that fled the country, half children, many out of school as well. >> you have more than a million refugees, more than a million school-aged, and many living in communities and countries that can't help them. they don't have the i take itty to put the kids in school. you have 80% of children who are refugees that can't go to school. what are the long-term
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consequences for something like that. >> i worry about it from two fronts, one is today, and many children that have been out of school for three or four years. at some point we'll have to rebuild syria, and the people that will have to rewell it are the young people today. and so imagine a generation that has had their school cut short, and these are the - these are the people that will have to rebuild the country. we talk about the generation, and have a campaign talking about no-lost generation, that's what we mean, we mean how do we get the kids into school. >> part of it is the ones going to school are living in such fear that they can't learn. >> the psychological impact on children - we think about the physical. children need food and shelter and need those things, but the
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psychological exact is high. a story that stayed with me when i visited jordan. i went to the youth center in the camp and talked to a 15-year-old. he was a star in high school. top of the class. had plans to go to university. i said what is your future like now. and he said -- i have no future. we should be worried when a 15-year-old says he has no future. >> that is beyond schools, it's the life in the cams, and we saw it last winter. there is tremendous suffering. >> there is. what save the children and others do in the camps is we try to - you try to make it a little more normal. we have kippeder gartens for children in the camp, schools in
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the camp and the host communities. one thing that is happening is outside of the refugee camps. children are having to go to work so when they are not in school, they are about families are depending on income that kids are earning, under the age of 15. >> they are creating problems for other children. we have problems about child marriage and girls as young as 13 forced into marriage, heart-breaking things, with girls that were going to schools, one that wanted to be a doctor, that's not uncommon. >> no, and what the statistics we have seen on this is that the marriage of those under the age of 15 doubled. >> and it's girls that yes, in
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some cases their families are surging them to be married. they are worried about sexual violence being in danger, and the girls are going into these marriages, because they want to take pressure off their families, that's sad when the girls feel they have to get married. >> this military assault, the air strikes is it making things worse for save the children in northern syria. we worry when you have military actions it's important that they are protected. when you have the strikes in iraq, you have a huge amount of pressure on people when i.s.i.s. was making their moves to really go into areas where you had huge
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numbers of refugees. displacing people again and again, and again is obviously extremely difficult. >> i guess the air strikes are not displacing nearly as many as the i.s.i.l. brutality has done, but throughout syria and iraq. >> many plan them because of i.s.i.l. >> pleasure to have you with us. we wish you all the best. time to see what is trending on the web. let's check in with harmeli aregawi. >> politicians are denouncing anti-muslim adds set to appear on new york city public transportation. they'll be featured on 100 buses and subway stations are funded by the american freedom defense initiative, a pro-israel and anti-islam group ran by pamela, a woman known for stirring up controversy. one with an image of james foley saying:
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brooklyn burrow president eric adams called the ads irresponsible and dangerous saying: rabbi mark of new york said: she was behind similar adds in 2012, and they were rejected. a federal judge ruled if violated the groups. let us know what you think on twitter. back to you. straight ahead - the c.d.c. warns na more than a million
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people affected with ebola by the beginning of next year. as the u.n. general assembly kicked off, you won't believe how much diplomatic immunity is costing the city of new york in parking cities. my interview with forest whitaker, how one of his roles changed his life and the life of many children in africa.
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infected by the end of the year, and the virus could be here to stay. >> we are now in the third explosive phase of growth. if we don't stop the epidemic, it will turn from a disaster into a catastrophe. >> joining us here is a senior associate at the neurocity of pittsburgh medical facility, a think tank that covers the consequences of epidemic health threats and holds a seminar for staffers, facilitated by jeff coo coons. good to have you with us, last month, and august, the w.h.o. thought the maximum number of cases would be 8,000. the c.d.c. said we could see 21,000 cases by the end of september. and we could see 1.4 million
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cases by 20 jan. what is the likelihood that it will get that bad? >> that likelihood is slim. that modelling study is where assumptions are made, and the key is that there would be no intervention to stop the outbreak. we know it to be a false assumption u because there's a lot of efforts to stop the outbreak, we are building hospitals, educating the health care workers and providing an equipment. it's best to thing of the one million as a thought experiment, and the c.d.c. said in the paper that is states the same. they said that the best case scenario involved high rates of taking care of people, that they would receive good treatment in isolated situations and we are not seeing numbers remotely 70%. >> there's a lot of work to be
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done. it's going to take time to get to the capacity in those areas, in order to tame the outbreak. i think it can happen, and we are seeing the beginnings of that now. >> i don't want to be an alarmist, but the estimates as they stand are not - where there's a significant problem. when you look at the models, they'll be delivered. it's important to remember that this is an outbreak feating three countries -- affecting three countries, guineans seem to have a better hold on it. so i'm not sure thou pass what is going to happen on each out break. there's three distinct pathways forward. we are not seeing the tip of this. we haven't seen this outbreak be controlled, and it's going to take a lot - quite a while.
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the numbers are horrifying. it could get to the worse case scenario. the warning, and this could be endemic, something that never goes away, like the gold or the flu. it's a major fear that it will never go away. what we have seen is the ex-please ioutbreaks occur -- explosive outbreaks occur. a c.d.c. needs to be built there to recognise outbreaks in respond. i don't think it can be endem nick the same sense -- endemic in the same sense as other diseases. >> what about in freetown, the health ministry confirmed 10 deaths, but the cemetery reported burying over 100 people. >> there's definitely mistrust.
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people are hiding dead bodies. and that hampered the ability to control the outbreak. >> finally president obama pledged that we'd build 17 hospitals in liberia with 100 beds each. that has begun. but a picture was tweeted saying - a day after opening, the new 100 plus bed is full once again. sick must wait outside. again, it's important what the united states is doing. but it's not enough. >> i think it's the first step you are seeing, to build capacity, there's a lot more needed from the united states and other partner nations. 17 hospitals, 100 beds each is a huge step forward. there needs to be more, and some build-up of the cap of the ain the liberian health care system
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themselves. so many heath care workers have been sick themselves. it's a massive effort that has to be undertaken. let's hope the international community steps up. it's a pleasure to have you with us. >> coming up. famous actors are not immune from racial profiling. forest whitaker talks about experiences with race in america. first, new yorkers now that the u.n. general assembly means one thing - traffic. you will not believe how many parking fines the nations of the world have accrued. that's in our data dive next.
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today's data dive claims diplomatic immunity. the u.s. is playing host to many world leaders from the u.n. general assembly, but diplomats often act like rude houseguests. wournal found officials from 18 countries owe the city more than 16 million in unpaid parking tickets. egypt are the worse, with 17,000 tickets worth $2 million. nigeria, indonesia, brazil and morocco round out the worst five. more than 15,500 dates back when michael bloomberg took over as mayor and took action. he pressed the state department which issues special licence plates to diplomats, and used to look the other way on fines. he got the state department to
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surrender 70 of the plates and refuse hundreds of attempts to renew registrations. that straightened out most of the problem. the old debts are unpaid. current rules date back to 1961 in which says that diplomatic agents get immunity from the criminal jurisdiction of the receiving state, but that is limited to if a diplomats home country waves immunity. in the late '90s, a second-largest diplomat was sentence said to 21 years in prison after killing an american teen, serving his sentence had his home country after the government refused to step in and stop the process. >> an ambassador from barbados had a german shepherd that bit 8 people. he said diplomatic immunity
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actor forest whitaker played many characters in his long career - from a butler to a justice musician to the president of the uganda in "the last king of scotland", leading to an academy award in 2007. it's his role fighting for the children of conflict as a u.n.e.s.c.o. peace and reconciliation group, and his own peace and reckon sill atry initiative that is close to his heart. i sat with him as part of "talk to al jazeera". this is part of that interview. great to have you with us. i want to talk about the
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whitaker peace initiative, and the younes coe ambassador role. -- u.n.e.s.c.o. ambassador role. what inspired you? >> as a child, my first touch in a conflict of war is with my cousin. he went to the vietnam war. he came back, we were close. he lived in my room. he was totally changed. the war. it affected him to this day. then there were a bump of the happenings in my community. the black panthers used to pick me up, invite me to the breakfast programme. i remember as a kid seeing their building blown up, how that affected me. then behind my grandmothers was the s l.a., actually. >> famous for patty hurst, bank robberies and things.
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>> i remember walking to that building as a kid, and that affected me, and then with the birth of the gangs in los angeles, because at one point i had difficulties with the gang, and my mother decided to send me an hour away to school. it took about two hours on a bus, an hour in a car. that affected lie life. i think the touches with conflict affected me. when i worked with child soldiers date day. >> did that happen when you went to uganda. is that when you were more exposed to what war does to children? >> it was. there was a place in the north of uganda called hope north, in the formative stages. a friend of my sam was running it. i was working there and talking to the children soldiers and realised you heard parallel stories from the gang members back home that i knew. i recognised my connection on a
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global level in a deeper way, and see myself in others, no matter where that was, and it started my work there. i have been working with them. and i have a programme, in the north of uganda. and one in gulu, we are finishing the train facility there. >> w p.d. i in south christopher gibson and gula, the focus is on the children, children that suffered through conflict. efforts you have in mexico are focussed on other areas. you are looking at the general effects of violence on children, and what you can do to improve their lot in life? >> use in general, i guess, and how in the conflict zones, how 70% of the people are used. we train them in conflict mediation. in transformation, the second is i c.t., a computer technology in
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which my partners supply connectivity and computers, and we talk about the difficulties and the positives about that. then life skills. trauma release, and project development. so they initiate projects in the communities to transfer the communities, and they transform themselves to the price of shifting. >> americans are becoming increasingly isolationist because of the wars involved, and people seem to want to pull back from the rest of the world. what do you tell people about why it's important to support projects like what you are doing. >> it's important because what is occurring in other places affects us in different ways. first of all, on a human level. what you see is a reflection of your life, your environment - whether you see it on the tv screen or whether you can touch it, it affects you in some way.
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the laws of nature make it that way. we have to recollection we have to change those things to make our lives better. it's our environment, our world. the community of man. >> the butler painted a portrait of american race relations for more than half a century, and i think. it showed bits and pieces of race relations. where do you think we are food, especially in light of something that happened to you. and that is that you were stopped and frisked and accused of shoplifting in a high-end delli in new york city where you had gone to buy yoghurt. >> right. i mean, racial equality has not
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been completely found. people are always looking and fighting, it was an unfortunate event that happened. it happened to many people, a lot of people of colour experienced discrimination. i wasn't doing anything - he made a mistake, he wasn't looking he saw a guy walking out and decided to do this. it's unfortunate it happens and escalates to someone being killed because of a misjudgment of character, stereotypes and their own fear. the film "the butler" tries to move you through the different ways that move you to the place where we are today of equality and, you know, from slavery all the way through. and shows the different ways to protest and achieve and continue to achieve, and trying to continue to achieve, which is
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fairness in life, liberty and the pursuit of practice, which is the american dream, a dream that all of us should be alt share in. it's the american dream, not the african american dream, the american dream. until it's quiet and we can gather it and have it, the country never become what it was supposed to be, what is says it is. we can see the thinks happening all over the place. i produced a film last year that explored that, certain elements of tragedy that happened with oscar grant. all these thinks influence us. we look at these things, how many people are in prison, almost one out of 2.3 million people of colour black individuals are in prison, and you look at the other 58% is lat join and black -- lat join and
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black. we have to recognise that there's a disparity and a problem. >> you can catch my full interview with forest whitaker in the coming weeks. tomorrow on "consider this", former c.i.a. director james wol si. that's all. the conversation conditions on the website aljazeera.com/considerthis. we are on facebook and twitter at aj consider this and tweet me at amora tv. see you next time. ^ below psh psh hi everyone, this is al jazeera america, i'm john seigenthaler in new york. tonight - what you need to know about khorasan. only the beginning, why the u.s. he was led campaign in the middle east could last years. ebola - a grim w
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