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in some regions it has gotten worse. we must defeat these terrorists through concrete action and cooperation. one year ago this week as we know we remember the attack on the westgate mall in nairobi that claimed dozens of lives. >> hello, again, everyone, this is al jazeera america live from new york city. i'm tony harris with a look at today's top stories. right now president obam obama{^l" ^linpresidentwe have been following the united nations. this is president obama's second time to chair since 2009. the issues are different, to be sure. the focus today are fighters in
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iraq and syria, and resolve to fight the situation. >> more than 15,000 foreign fighters from 80 nations have traveled to syria in recent years. many have joined terrorist organizations such as al-qaeda's affiliate, al nusra front, and isil, which threatens people across syria and iraq. >> mike viqueira with me, and he has been following the president's entire day. it's been a busy one. this resolution requiring countries to take firm action to address the threat of foreign fighters the world over. >> fairly extraordinary. you have the president of the united states the chair of the united nations this month. but chairing this meeting in security council today and
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organizing to insure domestic laws are passed in each individual country. it is enforceable, but as a practical matter, tough to do. you see many countries, the majority directly affected by terrorism. we've heard from françois hollande. they suffered a blow when one of their citizens were murdered. and the king of jordan, they have a large population of syrian refugees living within their borders. it's a compelling and significant moment. >> i believe king abdullah is coming up in just a moment. the president introducing the king of jordan. >> thank you, mr. president. first let me thank president obama for his leadership on this issue. and jordan can will com be
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counted on to play a part. we need to shut down extremist support and push back and defeat these groups. the demands of the coalition, one that can combat the threat with consistency and resolve. allow me to absolute the partnership that is gathering up. three principles are important as we proceed. the first is global reach and commitment. the threat is not only in syria and iraq, but also in sinai. niger, libya, yemen, mali, the whole of africa, and more. it is not an arab-muslim fight any more. it affects every delegate here and beyond. it is the fight of our times. success requires an united struggle backed up by strong resources. success also requires a holistic
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approach, transnational terror grows on the back of crisis, grievances and sectarian conflict. winning hearts and minds takes a strong stand against marginalization, poverty and exclusion. there must be diplomacy, development, job creation, education and more. a second key principle is immediate action. the new breed extremism is recruiting worldwide through social media and covert partnerships. the more resource-rich territory they hold, the more self perpetuating they become. time is ever the essence. we've started taking action and the coalition must see this through. the third requirement is transparency. these groups rely for their survival on international transactions and support. mr. president, there has to be a
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zero tolerance policy to any country organization or individual that facilitates, supports or finances terror groups or provides weapons or proposed propaganda whether through media outlets or misusing religious clerics that insights and help recruit fighters to these terrorist groups. compliance must be absolute. countries cannot comply in one theater while making mischief in another. sitting figures in every religion and country must speak out against intolerance and distortion. i have made clear that isis and related ideologies are no way related to islam. nor should we admit any for of islam phobia. jordan has taken the lead in initiatives, and we're working on a resolution that will
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address the systemic targeting of religious communities. the world must act as one to help solve global enjusts. injustices. first and fort most is a just resolution to the palestinian-israeli conflict. an united global voice is equally vital in supporting an inclusive political solution in syria, and in iraq we are encouraged to see a solid start for an inclusive new government that will fight terrorist efforts to exploit sectarianism. finally a hope that there will be a global call to action like countries of mine own to the forefront of the fight. jordan is a critical linchpin of stability. our border stands secure with terror threats on two fronts. just this week we foiled another terrorist operation against our
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country, and of course we remain a major shock absorber from mass refugee flights from syria. we up hold these critical responsibilities under enormous country. we'll keep our country resilient and moving forward. jordan seeks a renewed push to keep systems flowing for all host countries and communities and inside syria itself. thank you, mr. president. >> the words, the speech from king abdullah of jordan, so important in that region, mike, what was that factoid that you offered? >> 20% of jordan's population is living inside the borders as refugees, part of millions that fled lebanon and turkey. >> if you're talking about the comments from just a moment ago
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from king abdullah, you heard him say specifically that the fight against isil, quoting now, is the fight of our time. with that said, let's bring in u.s. ambassador to syria in the george w. bush administration. ambassador, it's good to see you again. thank you for your time. a pleasure. >> a pleasure. >> what are your thoughts on this extraordinary meeting. this is the sixth time that the united nations security council has met at this level. the heads of state level. what are your thoughts? >> well, i think it's a great contrast to what we saw last year when the president of the united states went to the u.n. a bit humiliated because he was not able to make good on his threat to strike the syrian regime after it used chemical weapons, and he was, in effect,
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bailed out by russia, and there was criticism all over the world, particularly in the region. so this year it's very different. he's chairing, he gave a strong speech. he looked and sounded like the leader of the free world. and he has obviously considerable backing for the stands he's taking particularly on isil and in trying to root it out. so it's a--what a difference a year can make. >> let's sort of dig deeper here on the strategy as proposed by the president secretary of state over the last week and a half, two weeks and your thoughts on it. it's a big strategy with several big key components. with respect to syria. well, at least initially the thought was it was going to be an iraq-first strategy. i wonder if you were at all surprised to hear of the airstrikes over syria?
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>> well, obviously that was going to have to happen. the timing was a bit of a surprise because i think the president's statements and those around him could lead one to believe that they were--they still felt they needed a lot more time. but time was of the essence. they didn't have time. and it's a good thing that they struck when they did. because we're seeing a horrific new refugee crisis and they have to host refugees. >> tell us about the difficult position turkey is in right now. there is a stream of kurds crossing that border, and the government in turkey is trying to negotiate kind of a peace
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accord, a better understanding with the pkkk within its own country, and now you have this mass exodus out of syria, while there are calls from this coalition that has been brought together by the president for turkey to do more, even to participate in the situation. >> from an u.s. standpoint as you indicated turkey has been disappointment on a number of counts. it has issues that it's wrestling with, but some of the problems that turkey is facing are problems exacerbated by then prime minister now president erdogan. the turkish border was far too open for anyone who wanted to fight the assad regime, go into iraq, go into syria, and now as
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they say the chickens are coming home to roost. you know, turkey is not without blame here. they've got to get control of their border. i know they're concerned about kurdish separatism, and concerned about--as the pkkk group many regard as terrorists who have been fighting for a separate kurdish state in turkey, but they can't be blinded to the larger issues, and right now the largest issue is isil, the destabilization of the region, and the threat that isil poses to everybody, including the turks. >> what are your thoughts on what seems to be a pretty extraordinary effort to bring together this coalition, 40, mike viqueira, the number is up to 50 nations now involved in this coalition to take on isil. >> right. >> and the fact that you have
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five arab states that are participating. we can talk about whether it's robust in terms of participation, and if you would like more, but there are five arab nations that are involved, and making statements about their involvement. >> it's a cliché, but we're seeing the u.s. as the indispensable nation. it is rather an extraordinary feat to get five conservative arab monarchies not only to back the u.s. but to be part of the coalition taking part in warfare against isil because it won't be popular with all of their people, and it leaves them even more open to terrorism than they were before. so it's a good first step. but as many pundits have pointed
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out, the question is who is going to do the fighting on the ground? the united states has made it clear while we have advisers and intelligence people helping some of the forces who are allied with us, we're not going to lead the ground fight. we're not even going to be a significant part of the ground fight. so we know the kurds will have to fight isil. after you get past the kurds who is there really that the u.s. can feel confident in? the s so-called free syrian army is splintered and often finds itself aligned with unsav roy elements like the al-qaeda al nusra front. i sometimes say tongue-in-cheek
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the ground consists of hezbollah, iraqis training by hezbollah. >> wow. there is some degrading of isis. who fills the void. the void is created, who fills that void? the rag tag group that the united states is going to be training and equipping, the free syrian army? >> well, right now i don't think assad has the manpower or resources. >> to take back the country. >> to get overextended. i don't see assad moving outside of the populated areas into the syrian desert. that's the euphrates river valley, that's a reach too far
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for him. and really, right now i see nobody who is ready to fill that void. as i said the kurds might try to take advantage of any isil retreat, but in syria itself there is a number of disparate groups, and you could see a certain amount of warlordism. >> is that a strategy? you know the area so well, is that a real hole in the strategy? you can start a fight. you can degrade a force, but there needs to be something to fill that void. and then on the question of who goes in on the ground and does the fighting, boy, is there a viable proxy beyond the free syrian army that would do essentially--forgive me for putting it this way, the bidding of the coalition?
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hthe only power that i see that has the wherewithal to do it is turkey. yet, inside turkey there is a lot of controversy and division over the whole matter of syria, and islamism. this di baits cuts across the divide itself. >> will you please take a moment to explain the divide? i don't think we do a service to our audience by not explaining the divide that you're talking about right here and put it on a knife' edge right here. >> sure. for the last decade or more, the elected government, the dominant
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party in turkey has been a moderate islamic party, and president erdogan has that identity. turkey has been founded by otto tour. he did everything he could to suppress religious expression, even though turkey is overwhelmingly a muslim country. and the military is the up holder of that tradition. >> if i could just have you stay with us for a moment we want to get comments from british prime minister david cameron. >> the cruelty being meted out, the beheadings, eyes being
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gouged out, rape, it is medieval in its character. the appalling murder of french victim of herve gourdel the latest. i pay tribute to president obama for his personal leadership on this critical issue. it is an issue that affects us all, the over all figures have been given. let me say that from my own country it is 500 of these fanatics have gone to syria and iraq. and the shocking murders of james foley, stephen sotloff and david haynes by a fighter with an apparent british accent under
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lies the sinister nature of this threat. british are sickened that a british citizen could be involved in murdering people, including a british citizen who had gone to syria to help people in this way. it is the very opposite of what our peaceful, tolerant country stands for. we need a response that involved every part of government and society, and every country involved in the widest possible international coalition. there are no easy answers or quick fixes. i believe we'll be dealing with the effects of this threat for years. as has been said this is not just about isil, it's about al-shabab, boko haram, it's about al-qaeda, everywhere there is conflict, everywhere there is poor governance the poisonous narrative of extremism has taken hold. but i believe there are three things that we can do. first, we must reinforce our
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counter terrorist efforts to prevent attacks and hunt down those who are planning them. for our part in the united kingdom we're introducing new powers to strengthen our ability to seize passports and stop suspects from traveling, to allow us to temporarily prevent british nationals to get back into the country, and ensure that airlines comply with our no-fly lists and enable our police and security services to apply for stronger locational constraints on those remaining in the u.k. but who pose a risk. but second, and i believe crucially we must defeat the poison thousand ideology of extremism that is the root cause of this threat. yes, there are the website and preachers of violence and violent extremism, and of course those must be taken down, but it is clear that many were initially influenced by preachers who claimed not to
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encourage violence but whose world-view can be used as a justification for it. and we know what this world-view is. the peddling of lies that 9/11 was a jewish plot or the attacks were staged. and muslims persecuted all over the world is an act of western policy. the clash of civilization. we must be clear to defeat the ideology of extremism we need to deal with amen form of extremism, not just violent extremism. that means banning preachers of hate from coming to our countries. this means stopping extremists from inciting hatred in our schools, in our universities, and even sometimes in our prisons. in other words, firm decisive action to protect and uphold the values of our free and democratic societies.
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and as has been said we need to provide an alternative narrative particularly for these young people. i was particularly struck but what you said, secretary general, missiles can kill terrorists, but governance can kill terrorism. we have to say again and again, this has nothing to do with the religion of islam, the religion of peace. we need muslim country after must little countries and muslim leader after muslim leader to speak out as the king of jordan did so clearly today condemning these people who say they speak in the name of islam when they do no such thing. third and finally the action that we take in our own countries we must do much more working together in deat least this threat. the defeat of isil will only come about if we use all of the weapons at our disposal. we must use aid to help the inflicted. we must use our diplomacy to
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strengthen the countries of the region, and we need government who is represent all of their people, and yes deal with their grievances. the united kingdom is committed to meetin meeting meeting this challenge. only a coordinated response will tackle a global and indiscriminate threat. it must be one part of a comprehensive strategy that we have to dismantle and destroy isil. we must work in tandem of acr arab states, and as part of a plan that. involves our aid, diplomacy, and yes our military. we need to act, and we need to act few. thank you. >> thank you, his excellency prime minister cameron for his statement. >> we'll continue to monitor this situation. the president is chairing this meeting of the u.n. security council. it's the second time the president has been chair of this body. boy, it is seem big unprecedented we're talking about the sixth time the unsc
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has met at this level, the heads of state at this level. mike viqueira is here with me here, and u.s u.s. ambassador theodore kattouf. defighting isil in iraq and syria and both of them coming together with airstrikes in iraq and syria. there were airstrikes in syria, and there was a moment when the president had a moment right in the halls. you get these moments. >> this was prime minister, the newly installed prime minister of iraq, an individual who supplanted someone who the united states and frank many others to go nouri al-maliki. this is a relatively formal with a photo-op at the end.
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one the interesting aspects that came out of this haider al abadi, the new prime minister beseeched the president to send more arms to iraq to the iraqi army. why? because the rapid advance of isil had resulted in the loss or simply isil has them now. and it really does point out serious ironies. there have been three principle areas of concern in critics and doubters. the unity of the iraqi government. that has yet to be demonstrated and proven. the coalition that the president and officials have been stressing for so long. that includes sunni-led governments in the region. but perhaps more principally the arming of the free syrian in a proxy fight. you can see what happened in iraq. the loss of these arms.
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the past comments from the president himself who has been reluctant to arm these folks because what could go wrong? it has happened so often in the past, these lethal arms end up in the wrong hands. the saudis have been asking for years to transfer as per terms of the agreement the lethal shoulde weaponry. it is simply too sophisticated. we don't know whose getting it. we don't know if they're trustworthy. when you put that all together, and see that this policy rests to a significant degree on the viability of the free syrian army to take that fight in syria, not in the next month. not in the next two months, but perhaps in a year, it starts to become a little bit--people start to get skeptical. >> you make what sounds to me a viable argument for someone to
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make, mike, and i'll offer this up to you, ambassador, for the united states being the indispensable power, and it cuts to your point who is going to do the real fighting, the real effective fighting. in iran, in syria, what are your thoughts about whether or not groped forces from the united states, maybe ground forces from other coalition will have to be put back in on the ground in syria in order to get the job done. >> is that addressed to me? >> it is, sir. >> i don't think this president, can be expected to do that. and we shouldn't. it's the region itself. turkey, saudi arabia, jordan, and other countries there, iraq,
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that are facing the immediate threat. you know, we can talk about three receiptcal threats to the homeland, but what are those threats compared to what these countries are facing? american men and women should not be expected to do it for them, in my opinion. i agree with your other guest's comment, how can we get the free syrian army up to combat readiness against isil when an iraqi army that we trained for nine, ten years fell apart upon first contact? it's not encouraging, is it. >> so explain to me, i got to tell you, i spent two and a half years in the region. whenever there was an issue of conflict of a fight that had to be settled in that region,
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everyone was coming to me and saying where are the americans? the americans need to do this. the americans need to do this. i can't even tell you how many times i said, well, what about the people in the region? what about the states, the leaders in the region? can you explain to us why it is that so many of the monarchies, so many of the leaders in the region either try and fail or don't try hard enough to get these conflicts resolved amongst themselves? >> i can give you part of the reason. there are two axis of conflict undermining the state system. one is the sunni-shia divide that we all know of, in the eastern arab world even though shia islam is the minority worldwide, there is a strong presence of shia in the arab
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world. they're not usinged to having shia in position of demand and rule as in baghdad and damascus. this makes it very difficult for them to take an unified stance. secondly, there is a sunni divide. the north group within the islamic world, you have saudi arabia, arguebly one of the most conservative, and somewhat theocratic regimes anywhere in the world, which propagated this very, very conservative form of islam
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people like baghdad, standing on its head and saying the people, the muslim should have a caliphate. i'm the caliph, and they're just pretenders. so you have a sunni-sunni fight where it's sometimes hard to distinguish the religious differences, but certainly in strategy and tactic there are major differences. >> boy, there are ten questions that could follow this. let's take a quick break. we're standing by, waiting to hear from the foreign minister of russia. sergei lavrov. this is al jazeera america. @j
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series of strikes on isil in syria last night and later today. two of the targets on the ground where rebels are fighting the assad regime and isil fighters. airstrikes are not welcomed. many people have taken to the streets in protest. before we get to that, here is the foreign minister of russia, sergei lavrov. >> linking up with terrorism trace the inner regional conflicts. isil and other terrorist groups have long been in the middle east. they have quite the capacity for their criminal activities in the condition not without assistance from outside is a weakening state institution, and due to
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the varying outside sponsors having gained strength extremist jeopardize states. russia has advocating abandoning the double standards in fighting terrorism. we need all states to commitment in resolution and the security council has called for the ending of extremism and prohibit the dissemination of weapons of libya. we support resolution 2170 ratcheting up against terrorism in syria and iraq.
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we take agreed decisions relying on the u.n. charter. after the intervention in iraq the bombing of libya and support of outside anti-assad extremists in syria, the problem of foreign fighters has worsened. those fighting the ranks of terrorist organizations in middle east, africa, and in the afghan border area. we respect the sovereignity of all states. we support the resolution aimed at choking off any activities of foreign terrorist fighters. at the same time we would like to caution against temptation to narrow down the problem because the islamic state with its inhuman ideology and revoltings execution of journalists is not the only in the region who need to comprehensively consider
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terrorism in all its dimension in the middle east and africa. we appropriate the permanent five members of the security council and other stake holders. the agenda of this forum should address long-standing conflicts. failing to resolve these issues one of the primary reason enabling terrorists to received moral support and to recruit ever new members into their ranks. we call for the cause of their deep-rooted problems. we call for a joint agreement to work our way out of this
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situation. >> comments there from sergei lavrov. less bring in ambassador theodore kattouf, to what extent does the continuing israeli-palestinian conflict loom large over the other conflicts we see in the middle east, and to what extent does that conflict continue to be a source of recruiting power for these groups in their efforts to destabilize and attempt to gather land in other parts of the middle east and north africa? >> well, as you well know that is a very controversial issue, and one that probably cannot be answered in a few sound bytes
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easily. but we were listening to some of the speakers talking about how many muslims, particularly young muslim who is feel disenfranchised, humiliateed, and the like. and the palestinian-israeli conflict is a source of humiliation to young muslims who feel that their elders have failed them, their elders have failed with this issue in a way what brought about justice for the palestinian people. and they feel they're having the their nose rubbed in it. i'm not saying if this were to be resolved tomorrow, that isil would go away. there have been jihadist
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movements long before israel was created. but this is certainly one factor help to go radicalize youth. >> let's go back to a point that we were talking about earlier, and i'll bring mike viqueira in on this as well. ambassador, you were talking about the free syrian army, and the question is when we talk about the fsa is it viable? is it a viable fighting force? what is the united states training the fsa to do? is it to take on isil? is it to take on the assad regime? is it to take on both and then the viability question cuts along the line are they capable? are they organized? are they disorganized, and mike, we've been listening to hearings on this very point. >> we've heard in the course of explaining how the attacks went down late on monday night saying there was an iraq-first strategy in a certain sense, and so that
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brings up a couple of questions. why did the president suddenly expand into syria. he made the speech two weeks ago. he had the authorization. the reason why it was iraq-first strategy because there was a force on the ground to take up the says and forming the iraqi army and peshmerga that the airstrikes would afford, would push them back from the ha had hadifa dam, and the mosul dam. the problem is with that strategy the president's own cabinet officers have gone to capitol hill to his intelligence officers and officials, and by their estimation of the 50 brigades roughly there are of the iraqi army, only 25 of them are trustworthy, can be counted on to carry the fight. these are more of the inherent problems, the inherit hurdles
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that the president is going to have to clear, not to mention the u.n. military and coalition if his policy is ultimately years on, even the president said years on to be effective. >> yes, ambassador, let me come back to you. you were talking to us earlier about the divide within the sunni world, the sunni-shia divide, and then the sunni-sunni divide. what are your thoughts on iraq? the president's iraq strategy on two levels here. first, working with the peshmerga, and the iraqi security forces as fighting forces, but also getting the government piece right in iraq? what are your thoughts, your early reviews of haider al abadi, and whether or not he's taking the necessary steps, sending out the necessary
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signals that he is really interested in building a more inclusive iraqi government? >> the haider al abadi comes from the same party that produced nouri al-maliki party. but by most accounts there are psychological opposites. where nouri al-maliki was paranoid, insular, and always leary, haider al abadi i seems to be somebody who understands that you have to convince the kurds and the sunnies that there is something in this for them in cooperating with the government in baghdad, and taking up ministerial positions. but wanting it and trying are different than
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succeeding, and he has a difficult job ahead of him. >> to be sure. we're actually--i mentioned haider al abadi, because we're actually standing by. he may be the next speaker to address the u.n. security council. we'll stand by for that. we're listening to mr. wayne yi, the foreign minute storefe minister for china. and it's to the point where it's stressing the free syrian army will be trained. >> right. >> hang on a second, before we go to break, and before i get this question to you, let's see if haider al abadi is next. >> before we go to our next speaker, first i said earlier that we had 101 cosponsors for this resolution. i just received an update that we now have 104. it's worth noting the overwhelming interest and support in this issue.
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and consistent with our earlier agreement and past president, as i mentioned, we have opened this forum to leaders of countries that are not currently on the council, but obviously have an extraordinarily deep interest, not only in the problem that we've discussed today, the issue of foreign fighters, but also are critical in us solving this problem. and so i want to now welcome and give the floor to his excellency, haider al abadi, prime minister of iraq. >> in the name of the compassionate. i thank you for holdin holding
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this meeting which reflects your attention to the question of terrorism, and i thank you for your invitation to iraq to attend this caliber of meeting, and i thank you, personally, for the support you provide to iraq to confront terrorism. iraq today stands in the first line of confrontation against terrorism and against the islamic state o iraq and levant and has displaced many of its citizens in. occupied areas, and has killed hundreds of our citizens, and has targeted religious minorities like theycy dis, ththe yazidis and christians and others. it has changed demographics and
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destroyed cultural and religious legacies in addition to the booby trap course, killing many. isil is a mixture of extremists and remainders of the fascist baath party and are causing more damage to islam and adopting sectarian rhetoric, but also effects all sects and groups in iraq. this organization is not an internally iraqi organization. it is a transnational organization that derives its strength from the ideological cover consisting of religious opinions that provide hatred for
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the other, and finding pleasure in shedding blood and the beheading of others. second, the financial networks in several states which provide financial liquidity to this organization, in addition to oil smuggling networks in iraq and the city and territories under the control of isis. third, the support that this group enjoys from regroutment from around the world, and recruits that facilitate their entries into iraq. the media and propaganda netwo networks that spread news of the success of this organization and help recruit members, and the baath party and headquarters o
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of saddam. we will not allow regional disagreement or international disagreements to affect the priority of thi or disperse this international alliance against terrorism. mr. president, distinguished members of the council, while we express our gratitude to all the states who have stood beside us in the field, in the militarily and politically locally and internationally, we also affirm that the defeat of terrorism is the defeat around the world. we call o on the united nations security council and all peace-loving countries we ask an
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all those to defeat terrorism and protect the unity, independence, and sovereignty of iraq in its land, air and water. second, blocking of all sources of financing and financing networks, including the purchase. you. >> and criminalization of the recruiting network. fourth, preventing isil from the use of technology for its ideology including the use of internet and the spread of their horrifying use of media. fifth, support from the entire world for refugees and
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reconstruction of cities destroyed by isil, whether it's through occupying these states or boob booby trapped cars that explode in these areas. ladies and gentlemen, iraq has been successful in halting the progress of isil with the use of our security forces, and our courageous people who have responded to the call of the religious spiritual leaders who are in leadership, and iraq has succeeded in transition of power and national alliance according to a specific timetable, and this is a necessity of priority for the confrontation of terrorism. our government look forward to an urgent effort to end the terrorists. we also look forward to construct relations with oil countries in the world,
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especially in the region of iraq, the neighborhood states, who stand together with us in this confrontation, and this relationship would be based on political and military operation. thank you, mr. president. >> well, i thank his excellency prime minister al abadi for his statement. we recognize that iraq is on the front lines of fight against extremism and terrorism, and we're heartened by the numerous countries who have pledged assistance and aid to iraq in support of this fight. next i would like to give the floor to his excellency mr. mr. erdogan, president of the republic of turkey. turkey, obviously, has been deeply affected by both the flow of foreign fighters and the displacement in a ha that has
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resulted in the conflict from neighboring states. we thank the president for being here today. >> thank you. >> secretary obama, secretary general, distinguished guests, i would like to start by thanking my friend, barak, for enabling such an important discussion at the highest level. the foreign terrorist fighters is no doubt a very important issue, and it is an issue that has presented itself as a reflection of a bigger problem, and the collapse of structures in our southern neighborhood and the resulting atmosphere of chaos and instability created by terrorist organizations, and unfortunately it the region has become an attraction for foreign
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fighters. turkey in the emergence of instability of the area has spoke about this threat. and turkey has prepared the ground fo--the spread of isil's spread towards iraq is the result of conditions on the ground and has been nurtured by the earlier sectarian policies of the previous government. under these circumstances the international community has to work together because all problems can be overcome if the international community works together. we have to have a long-term approach, a comprehensive and realistic approach to overcome this threat. and turkey has been taking a
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leading role in this direction, and turkey has been working to prevent the flow of foreign fighters in the region for some time. the threat of foreign terrorist fighters starts the moment these individuals depart the source country. the combat against these individuals should start in the source countries, and our initial target for us is to prevent their entry into turkey. for a long time we have been calling upon the countries concerned to cooperate on this topic. but unfortunately, reaction has not been shown on this issue, either. and upon the deterioration of situation as we finally witnessed an increase share of information from the source countries. and thanks to this and within the scope of our struggle against the foreign fighters, around 6,300 individuals have
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been included in the no-entry list and close to a thousand foreigners have been deported, and we have established risk analogy groups at the airports. i would like to once again emphasize that we can stop this flow of foreign fighters, foreign terrorist fighters only for our friends and partners who show a spirit of cooperation as well. and another important issue we must dwell upon is the fact that measures and damage to our common civilized values should not be allowed. turkey has suffered for years from the malaise of terrorism that have claimed the lives of thousands of its children. we are among the best to know the pain that terror entails, and therefore we would be among the first to try to insure that we could prevent youngsters from
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all around the world to fall into the hands of terrorists. with this understanding turkey in 2011, together with the united states, launched the global counter terrorism forum. turkey takes all national, regional, and international steps to counter this threat, and is committed to take enhanced measures in this regard. isil is-- >> there you have president erdogan speaking about closing its border to syria, and wrapping things up with us, ambassador kouttouf. your thoughts on this security council? >> well, i think it's a good start. it's heartening to hear so many countries are speaking out against isil, claiming their
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willingness to ban together, to combat ther this terrible evil, and to cosponsor a resolution under chapter seven, which has teeth to it. so countries that don't abide by it are supposed to be subject to sanctions. buts long overdue, and for instance, we just heard president erdogan in a defensive mode talking about how turkey had been trying to control its borders, and it had been warning everybody what could happen, and they should have got--done something about assad long before he allowed this threat to grow, but nobody takes responsibility in that part of the world for their sins, but if turkey is going to control its border and stop foreign fighters from going in there other than vetted fighters for the free syrian army, that's a good thing and needs to be welcomed.
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>> ambassador, appreciate it. thank you very much for being with us during this hours. mike, just a second for. >> you an aggressive speech on the foreign policy stage talking about the need to fight the isil with force, admonishing some of the closest allies to get their act together to do what they can. >> that's all of our time for this news hour. "inside story" is next on al jazeera america. >> the united states is now bombing isil in syria, as the bombs were falling the president explained why the campaign is necessary to the united nations. it is inside story.
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