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>> fbi director james comey lashed out fo for implementing phones. chief of detectivers for the chicago pd went so far to say that apple will be the phone of choice for the pedophile. they're probably thinking i got to get an apple phone. we go to peter, he served on president obama's reform panel. this is welcoming a recurring debate as the internet and technology has exploded. it seems that every time there
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is a security that may benefit the consumer, they are kept from doing their jobs. >> the police are worried that the new technology stops them from doing things. a lot of my own research shows that the police have a lot new techniques that they never had before. your texts and social network posts. they have tools they never had before, but they're focusing on what they don't have any more, and this is an example of. >> doesn't law enforcement have an argument? not only do these innovations curtail illegal warrantless surveillance, but even if a judge says, hey, there is more than enough reason for you to be able to look at whatever it is on that guy's phone, what this is doing is making it impossible or close to impossible even if there is a warrant. >> that's what the police feel. they feel if they have a warrant they should be able to get
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anything. that's what the big fight in the 90's when the nsa and the fbi wanted to build in techcologies into the internet so if they had a warrant they could see in. but the problem is if they can see in, so can the cyber criminals and hackers. that's why good defense is so important. >> if a judge says, for example, that a person could be a terrorist threat and you--law enforcement should have access to whatever is on the phone or ipad, that that person owns, shouldn't law enforcement be able to have access to it? >> i think the key thing today is, for instance, for apple or google, what they're saying is they're going to build the phone in a secure way to that somebody except the phone's owner can open it up. apple will not have a secret key to open up the iphone and and
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google won't have a secret key to open up the android. they want a security built in in to this phone, and apple and google are saying no, we're not going to do that. we're going to tighten it up and have enter security end to end. >> i understand that, but then the question does become what happens if you have a terrorist threat. how can you get the information that you might need? >> well, police work happened before people had cellphones. there are a lot of ways when you have a suspect you can track them, track their current phone calls. if they back up to the cloud, which a lot of people do, you can go to the cloud provider, there are many techniques. in my paper on the golden era of surveillance the police are in a cornucopia of time where they have more data points than they had before. there are are a few things that get closed down but other things
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open up. i think the police focus on what they lose and don't talk about the huge amounts that they gain. >> the flip side the hackers have unbelievable access to our information. they can hack in to our private phones and tablets and computers with ease that is scary. so is this--we just saw the whole celebrity nude photo candle that came out because of people being able to hack these things. are these measures important for us as consumers to have our privacy? >> my view is the same as in the president's review commission in the review group. it applies to all individuals, businesses and government agencies. we need to build better defense into things and not just worry about having a back door for the fbi. we understand that the fbi might have certain things they can't do, but we have to have enter security across an awful lot of devices so these hacks don't
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happen quite so much. >> there is nothing illegal about the security measure. why does the fbi or nsa believe that it's apple or google's responsibility to help them. >> they have one thing on coleah when it comes to television equipment. if they build a new phone switch, they have to build it to be wire-tap ready. they're asking that every internet hardware and software device to be wiretap ready. it's becoming hacker ready. you don't have a goldilocks solution as said today. you don't have an in between. if the hole is there for the fbi, the hole is there for the hackers. we need to decide how much swiss cheese because our design philosophy for security. >> how much of this is good p.r. for apple, google, and it's
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android system? because since the companies can't do anything, the fbi calls and says give this, and they say we can't. we have no ability to do this, and it allows them not to hand over any data, which may not be popular and they have fewer staff to have to deal with those kinds of request. >> i think what happened since snowden, big companies are facing pressure overseas from companie people who don't trust big companies. and we're seeing a security culture where tech people want better security. you can is a they're catching up to the kind of security i think they should have had for a lot longer. >> a fascinating topic and i'm sure we'll hear more about it as time goes on. peter swire. thanks. >> great to be here, thanks.
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>> turning into another angry night of protests and arrests from ferguson, missouri, just hours after embattled police chief publicly apologized for the death of michael brown in a videotaped statement. >> i want to say this to the brown family. no one who has experienced the loss of a child can understand what you're feeling. i'm truly sorry for the loss of your son. i'm sorry that it took so long to remove michael from the street. >> the apology released by a public relations firm hired by the city after weeks of nightly and often violent protests was not well received from the community. protesters called for his resignation and chaos ensued. >> joining us now from kansas city to talk about what changes have been implemented in ferguson since the shooting as
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well as a new naacp report on profiling, john, very good to have you with us. some community leaders and protesters were angry that chief jackson's apology came so late in the form of a scripted apology by way of a p.r. firm. >> it's always good to apologize for something that you have done wrong, especially when you've made a blunder issuers as the ferguson police department. it is quite late to to make an apology. it appears as though the ferguson police department and their leadership continue to make mistake after mistake, and that's concerning to us and the citizens of ferguson should be concerned about that. as you saw last night things got a little hairy there last night between protesters and the
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police chief. what you're seeing on television, not much has changed but in terms of our efforts, in terms of the county and naacp the police are now wearing body cameras. that's something that we worn the chie worn--warned the police about, and now we're encouraged that that step has taken place. and now you have step major steps in the right direction. you have a city that is really starting to address the concerns of its citizens. now in place you have a system that is now being reworked, revamped, and reorganized, if you will, along with the process. >> so there have been some
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progress. why what happened last night? given everything that has happened--that has happened, why not have the police chief go out and talk to protesters and try to be open with them as he apparently tried to do last night? >> well, to give a little insight of what took place last night, it's my understanding that the police chief was trying to march and rally with protesters. it appears that the p.r. advice that they were given probably needs to be evaluated. i don't think it is ever appropriate for a police chief to be going out at 11:00 at night to address protesters. that's probably not the best idea, especially when you have a group of protesters that are concerned, that are angry, and have many questions and many concerns. i think that could certainly be addressed in a press conference. a meeting could be called for protesters or town hall forum
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where questions could be appropriately asked and answers provided. >> i understand your point. but the reality is, though, there have been so many missteps by this police department after michael brown was shot. the reaction has really just been a mess to see the least from the police department. but at some point doesn't there seem to be inclination to find fault even when the police are trying to reach out to the community? >> well, you have many people who are calling for the police chief's resignation. i think in order to restore credibility, when there has been this many levels of mistakes made on a daily basis dating back all the way back to the day that michael brown was killed the police chief needs to resign. the police department needs to be transparent. he needs to resign, and they really do need to start from
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scratch. that would be the step in the right direction. >> that was certainly something being heard last night. one of the biggest issues that residents feel, that they've long been the target of police department and law enforcement. >> i'm also aware of the pain and feeling of mistrust felt in some of the african-american community towards the police department. it is clear we have much work to do. >> and he said that he--they would take specific action on a number of levels. but he said all this on the same day that attorney general eric holder resigned, people in ferguson i know were disappointed about that, and the naacp released a vide report, that highlights how many states don't have laws that explicitly prohibit racial
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profiling. and many states don't have what the naacp to have public standards. >> that is a report that a lot of effort went in to, and i think that report can be a valuable resource and tool for many police unites, organizations and policymakers across the beeted of this nation to take a look at the data that we pulled together, and do we really live up to what we say we're living up to. i can tell you locally right here in st. louis and within ferguson we have a lot of work to do. we are going to have to insure that our state legislature, the city councils are putting into place policies that address racial profiling, that address police brutality. but not just that, are taking
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the necessary steps to make sure that citizens are confident in their local law enforcement in that they feel safe, and that they feel that law enforcement is serving and protecting. we have to do that. >> it certainly raises important questions. thanks. >> thank you for inviting me. >> time now to see what is trending on the web. >> the yankee legend's last day in new york was as epic as his career. tied in the bottom of the ninth inning when jeter drove in the winning run. social media was all about it. in the three hour game there were over 5,000 tweets mentioning jeter and a million tweets overall on thursday. the majority of tweeters were 35 and older. while 44% of the tweets mentioning jeter on thursday night were from the u.s. many also came from sweden, japan, australia and honduras. it was the most-viewed telecast
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ever on the yes network and the most watched regular season game on the mlb network. his nephew stole the show after he tipped his hat to his uncle. a lot of people call it a very hollywood ending. go perfect. >> you have to be a real yankee hater not to have a tear in your high. thanks. >> you're welcome. >> once to be thought homeschooling and now thought to be mainstream. but now without its problems. and drinking in america. surprising numbers in our data dive. and while birds may not be that scary their pre-historic grandparents sure were. the womb >> a divisive issue >> god is life , so it's his to take >> see a 10 year old girl who's pregnant, and you tell me that's what god wants... >> a controversial law >> where were you when the
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>> more than 1.7 million children in america are now being educated at home. that's 3.4% of all school-age kids. once the domain of deeply religious families homeschooling has become increasingly common among other americans. "edge of 18" addresses homeschooler as justin lives in los angeles and has dreams of making it big in the music
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industry. >> towns and cities. >> i'm homeschooled. i'm homeschooled by choice because i saw myself wasting time in school eight hours a day and then when i would get home it would be dark in two hours. i had no time to meet people. i had to be in bed. it was such a restraint. >> i'm joined by professor of education author of the book" homeschool." i think it's fair to say, tell me if i'm wrong, that the conventional wisdom was that homeschooling was the domain of fundamentalist christian families. but that's not the case any more. it's become more mainstream. >> that's correct. >> the reasons for homeschooling are varied. we're talking from everyone will
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smith and jada pinkett-smith homeschooled their children because then they had the opportunity for travel. and athletes, musicians, is the--why is it happening so much for them? has it become their only option? >> well, when you're devoted eight hours a day to dance or acting or whatever it may be, yes, you have to fit school in whenever you can. of course, the primetime to do that stuff is during the day. a lot of kids, they work it in around the edges. you can't do that at a conventional school. >> we see that in a boy on "edge of 18," is that typical of a kid who is homeschooled? >> if you look at the demographics i would say 70% of the students who are homeschooled are usually doing it for mostly religious reasons
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or other reasons. but now we have kids doing it for all kinds of reasons. >> some say it is totally u unregulated. others say it is somewhat regulated. what do you say to critics who say there are not enough education standards for what is going on in the homeschooling environment? >> right, that's been a very interesting discussion of late. the general trajectory to the degree there are regulations, lately there has been a movement sponsored mostly by graduate homeschoolers who are now adult who is some look back on their past and see what their younger
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siblings are facing and are having a harder time integrating. so far we have not seen that at the legislative level. likely it will not happen short of some catastrophe on a large scale. typically the homeschool community is strongly motivated and highly connected, and they do a very good job to it turn out and oppose any new legislation and restrictions. >> they've been pretty aggressive fighting many of those restrictions. but you brought up tragic situations. taking kids out of school does expose them to danger because if it's not regulated, if these kids are not being seen by anyone outside of the house. we have the example of a student in florida. and hanna in washington state, kids who were abused by their parents, who ended up dying simply because no one saw them. abuse that could have been
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detected had they been going to school. >> that's right. the number one people to catch child abuse are usually the classroom teacher. if you don't have a classroom teacher who is going to catch it? >> why isn't that having more of an affect and bringing in more regulations. there is a report called homeschooled children and it brings out a number of these cases. you refer to it, some argument in this "edge of 18". 35% of all online students end up not graduating on time. are there issues that are educational. >> that's another regulation that you could talk about. public education done in the home, cyber charter schools. there you have a clearer mandate for more regulation, i would say because these sources are under the same requirements of the
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public schools, and they're not coming in. you asked why there is not more regulation. first, the folks who would argue for more regulation, they're not as organized. so until you see a motivated force, that's not going to happen. also the homeschoolers have a powerful lobbying group, and they oppose any sorts of increases of regulation across the board in every state very effectively. >> i think you agree with me this is going to become a bigger part of the education discussion in this country. >> no doubt as more and more different people do it, it will bring in all sorts of interesting development. >> we'll hope that you'll join us to talk about this as we see those developments. "edge of 18" appears sunday on al jazeera america. could ca canaries and
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>> today's data dive tries to >> today's day at a dive tries to get a handle oning. a third of american adults has a glass a wine or the equivalent every night. 20% have two or more. but then the numbers get stagg staggering. 10% of americans consume 74 alcoholic drinks every week. that's right, 24 million americans adults consume an average of 10 drinks a day. that's equivalent to 18 bottles of wine every single week. on the other extreme a bunch of americans are teetotalers. a third of us don't drink at all. the big drinkers, the top 10% account for much more than half of all alcoholic purchases in america. the alcoholic bench industry is so dependent on those heaviest drinkers if they cut their hasn't to the--cut their habit to the next level of drinkers, revenues would plunge by 60%.
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the younger you start, the more dependent you become. kids who begin drinking before age 14 more than triple their risk of welcoming dependent on alcohol later in life. a big issue is that when americans drink many will do it to dangerous excess. the cdc reports bing drinking is a problem that cuts across all age ranges. senior citizen who is bing drink dbinge drink do it more frequently. it can cause high blood pressure, stroke, liver disease, heart disease even brain damage. it turns out that pigeons and t-rexes have a lot more in common than you thought.
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have been evolution from dinosaurs to birds. very good to have you back on the show. i think its hard for people, and certainly it's hard for me to wrap my head around the fact that a canary or mocking bird could have descended from a giant, meat-eating t rex, but at this point there is little doubt that that is the case. >> i know it's a wild idea, but birds are dinosaurs in the same way that wolf is a type of mammal is a type of amphibian. humming birds, canaries and ostriches are dinosaurs.
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so dinosaurs are not extinct. >> how did they turn from these massive animals into these tiny birds? >> yes, when we think of meat-eating dinosaurs we think of things like t-rex and athletes 40-foot long, five-ton predators. but it was not the story of a t-rex turning into a bird overnight. that's not how evolution works. we have these meat-eating predators. what we found having this family tree for context is that birds didn't just evolve overnight. but the process of a bird evolving from a dinosaurs was something that took tens of millions of years. gradual piecemeal evolution. first feathers, then wish bones and then wings and it took a long time.
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>> and once it happened, though, after that long time, that slow evolution, there was kind of an evolutionary explosion, and that's why we have these thousands of species of birds? >> that's right. and it's an interesting story because it took birds a long time to come together. it's like putting together a car or putting together a lego set. it takes time. you assemble it piece by piece. but when birds finally fully came together and you had a dinosaur with feathers and wings that was small, that could fly, then, bam, an evolutionary explosion. birds began to evolve more rapidly than any other type of dinosaur, and probably that's one reason why birds were able to survive that extinction that we talked about a few months ago that wiped out all the other dinosaurs, and why there is still ten thousand of species of birds around today. >> that is mostly why because
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they could fly? >> this is one of the big mysteries. we really nailed down the extinction. the big astroid came out of space, t rex, tr triceratops were doomed. but these birds could fly, they were faster, faster m metabolism, and it made birds more capable of surviving that cataclysm in the sky. >> let's talk about the v veloctraptors. you were quoted saying if you
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were around 66 million years ago that you were just talking about, you would consider the velociraptor another type of bird. >> i love jurassic park. i was nine years old when the movie came out. it was one of the things that hooked me into dinosaurs. but if you watch jurassic park, they don't have feathers on them. but since that movie came out we've discovered due to amazing fossils mainly in china. fossils of thousands of dinosaurs that the velocipraptor would have had feathers. if you had your binoculars and you were watching these things from a safe distance, of course, you would consider the
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velociprator another bird. >> some of these animals were able to glide before they were able to fly. >> this is one of the big mysteries that a lot of people including us in the u.k. are trying to work out. how did dinosaurs evolve flight. we know that birds evolved from dinosaurs, that case is closed. but how did flight evolve? did it evolve from animals that were running around on the ground. or did it evolve in another way? as we find more and more fossils, a new dinosaur being found every week somewhere around the world we're getting a clearer and clearer picture of that. stay tuned. this is one of the big mysteries that dinosaur pai paleontologists are working on right now. >> will you give us a call when that happens? >> of course, it's always my pleasure to be on, antonio. >> that's all for now.
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