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not representing your interests, that's probably because 2/3 of you are not interested enough in congress to bother holding them accountable on election day. that is our show for tonight. thank you for joining us. have a great weekend. >> hi everyone i'm john siegenthaler in new york. tonight, an al jazeera america special report. five days of fear. escape from i.s.i.l. that's coming up. but first: randall pinkston is here with the rest of the day'ss news. >> thanks john. more deployed to fight the ebola disease in africa. speaking identity, the ebola
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patient's family speaks out. i.s.i.l. brutality, reports of another beheading and death thread to an american soldier. as another country joins the coalition to try to stop the violence. flames burn through part of the 9/11 memorial in shanksville, pennsylvania. >> we begin tonight with the worldwide effort to stop the spread of the ebola virus. the latest numbers from the world health organization are sobering. ebola has now killed 3431 people and as jonathan betz reports the u.s. military is stepping up its fight against a global crisis. >> with ebola reaching american shores -- and no sign of the outbreak slowing in africa -- >> that's why we are doing
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everything we can to ensure the situation is under control. >> reporter: u.s. citizens are headed towards the hot zone. >> every ebola outbreak in the past 40 years has been stopped. we know how to do this and we will do it again. >> reporter: right now there are only 200 troops in west africa, but that number will swell to 3200. 160 from colorado and dozens more from north carolina and other posts,. >> they are not all going to arrive in one chunk. they'll come over time. >> thousands dying, hospitals completely overwhelmed and a severe shortage of doctors. >> the world is absolutely not doing enough yet. we're still challenged to outrun the disease. >> reporter: even getting there is challenging.
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liberia's crumbling airport is struggling to handle the flights. >> we have scrubs and table cloths and sterile items for the surgeries. >> reporter: the u.s. has been sending supplies in the hopes that a hospital and two clinics built in the next two weeks, the u.s. will be bringing for but not treating patients. >> we're not going to be in the treatment business. right now there's no expectation that u.s. troops are going to get close to those being treated for ebola. >> helping from a distance to stop an outbreak that is only growing. jonathan betz, al jazeera, new york. >> today a texas company sent a team to scrub the apartment.
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diane eastabrook is there. diane. >> the family has left. they were escorted out of the building. they had been taken to a private homeat an undisclosed location. a haz-mat team has been taking out contaminated items, some of those items have been bagged earlier. but that has proved to be little comfort to those living in the apartment complex. ebola patient thomas eric duncan was staying at this apartment complex. it was a surreal scene. many are immigrants who speak little english and say they have been told little about duncan or his illness. nobody from the state has been here to talk to you about what happened? good nobody. nobody talking to us about this matter. >> reporter: one woman said the lack of information prompted
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her to seek medical care. >> i got scared when he was about, they send me home i'm clear. >> reporter: while the police cordon off the complex to outsiders, residents go about their business and kids return from school. but still residents are concerned that the ebola virus is not contained. worries that duncan may have had contact with neighbors who frequently mingle outside their apartments. >> there are kids running around all the time, falling on the street, it's not a normal neighborhood where people just drive their car down it. people are actually on the street playing and things like that. >> reporter: now the cdc and the health department says they're actually narrowing their target.
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they say only about 10 of the 50 people they are looking for are high risk, family members in the apartment with duncan and the health care workers who came in direct contact with him, randall. >> thank you, diane ef eastabro. earlier heidi zhou-castro spoke with the family before they were evacuated from the apartment complex. >> reporter: nothing distinguishes the door but for the plastic bag containing the soiled diapers. i'm surprised when the door opens. the stepdaughter and son-in-law of ebola victim, no one is showing symptoms of ebola but they ask me to stand outside and be safe. one reason they open the door they tell me is because they're hungry. they have been expecting a food delivery from a health worker. >> are you hungry?
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>> this little girl is nodding yes, she's very hungry. when is s is the last time you ate, sweetheart? >> i don't know. >> reporter: the kids spent time in the the she and several other family members waited in the er for an hour. >> they say he's not in yet, so i have to go about and now want to ask, what is my step dad? i'm with him in the emergency room. >> the family is among the ebola contacts the health officials are monitoring. but unlike the mother, this family is not under a quarantine order. so in other words, you have not been ordered to stay in this house but you have been told to, is that accurate? >> we have been told to, just
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for safety. but i don't know, we have to be written something, i don't know about it. >> reporter: the family says it's confused, they don't know when they'll get food or if someone will dispose of the trash. >> my son put diaper in the trash. we have no air conditioning. the trash is stinking. we put it in a bag and cover it with a plastic bag. >> so for now, the family watches worries and waits. a health care worker takes their temperature twice daily but offers little instruction. >> let me make sure i understand, no o understand, no one has told you, you have to stay behind this door? >> no one has told me, do not go outside. we just doing this. >> they are scared because they may be a danger to the public safety. heidi zhou-castro, al jazeera, dallas. >> the aible ability of the west
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africa patient to fly to the united states, is enough being done to prevent victims reaching the american shores? >> in west africa airport workers are trying to screen but some of the workers don't know how to operate the equipment and worry passengers can slip by the screening and can take an ibuprofen to lower their fever. >> the reality is we can't stop. there's no way to stop ebola from making it to this country. >> liberian officials say the first ebola patienting to diagnosed lied on a questionnaire about his exposure to an ebola patient.
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>> i think there will be lots of patients who make it out of west africa lying about being sick. i warn to be vigilant. >> customs agents are supposed to be handing out pamphlets that the cdc created, for patients landing here or other airports. when we asked homeland security and agents inside whether we could see those pamphlets, they declined to allow us to look at them. >> we particularly assess for fever, whether that assessment is by touching a person with a gloved hand or the individual says they feel feverish. >> cdc director dr. thomas breeden says they are looking into more sophisticated
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procedures for airport security. but fear the situation could become worse. >> it makes me nervous to travel anywhere now. >> dr. gil mobley arrived in atlanta dressed in full ebola gear. >> i think the united states is on alert now. this is a -- i don't look at this experience in texas as a bad thing. i look at this experience in texas as, this is our wakeup call. >> officials at the cdc or the department of homeland security, hand held fever detectors on passengers arriving at airports. but the agency did say they will not hesitate to take further measures when it's necessary. robert ray, latino.
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>> patient admit to howard university hospital. someone who recently traveled to nigeria is in stable condition. the patient has ebola line symptoms and isolated at the hospital. citing privacy reasons, a spokes woman says no other details are being provided. pooh cameraman will be flown back to the u.s. sunday. the 33-year-old will be taken to the nebraska hospital in omaha, the same hospital that successfully treated rick shaycroft last month. katy was evacuated and sent back to the u.s. because of ebola. but she says she had to go back to liberia and help. in tonight's first person report she describes what she has seen
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in some of the health clinics. >> not organized, there are people like laying on the ground involved, some of them are dead, some are alive, you can't really tell, some of them are half-zed, there's kids in there without their parents, it smells like vomit and bleach. this is one of the hospitals i saw. i think the capacity to manage some of these place he is really missing and some of the supplies, i'm not really sure why. i keep hearing of the millions of supplies and the tons of this and that and a doctor doesn't have gloves. bill gates are pledging millions and billions, and i see the troops at the hotel, and there's no additional ambulance that i've seen.
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i've not seen any of that and i feel like the people on the ground are not -- they would say the same thing. nothing has changed yet. i get that people are planning and that it takes time but it's like people have to stop planning so much. liberian people are resilient more than anyone in the world. i really believe that. i think children are bouncing back pretty easily too. kids are kids no matter where they are. they love lolly pops and games. they love their moms. what impresses me about it is i don't know, i guess it makes me really sad to see that the extremities of what they are seeing and going through. these children are not asking for the world. i think they're just asking for their basic needs. i don't know, i think that the world -- we can't ignore them. >> charity worker katy myler on the ground helping those with
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the ebola outbreak. in hong kong, pro-democracy demonstrations. , adrian brown reports. >> this is the backlash against the pro-democracy movement. the scuffle between the groups that support and oppose the demonstrations that have shut down parts of this city. it happened in monkok, one of the most densely populated places on earth. there were similar scenes in two other shopping districts. those who support the protest movement accuse the police. blaming governmen supervisors.
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>> if they stay only one day, two day, three day, you are asking something, you feel good right? okay, then you can do. we already give many two days, three days. >> violence us caused by some of the people in hong kong, it's starting to stop but not in hong kong. >> hong kong's chief executive have appealed for calm, urging both sides to end the violence. >> i will not consider the use of the police force to clear the area in the short term but this cannot continue for a long time. >> and police struggling to keep the arrival pro -- the rival protest groups apart called for them to clear the streets but it's not happening. >> the violence will continue, especially as the leaders have
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now pulled out of talks with the government which was supposed to lessen tensions. adrian brown, al jazeera in hong kong. one year ago today, a ship carrying migrants sank outside the island of lampedusa, trying to escape poverty and the wars in their native lands. today, the focus is on how to prevent a tragedy happening like that again. kim vanel reports. >> reporter: an emotional return to the port where they were brought ashore a year ago. the last time they were here they just survived one of these worst-ever shipwrecks. the memories of that night are inescapable. he arrived on the shore even with two daughters of his own
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bartolomeo knew what he was supposed to do. >> translator: they needed support and protection after what they had suffered. i worked with them for four months, they became truly, i repeat truly. >> reporter: returning to where the vessel went down. the sounds of waves pierced by the coast guard, when the crowded fishing vessel sank it was a kilometer and a half from the shores of lampedusa. more migrants than ever are dying at sea. >> translator: we want to remember them and we want to give a message to the european union. what's the plan to save these people? we can no lorch longer say thate know nothing.
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>> the eu will launch onew mission in the coming months, the mission will be to strengthen border patrol. many would like to see migrants escape poverty without taking to the water. >> libya, tunisia, egypt, why take the voyage if you can be identified, for example, as someone from the horn of africa who has a protection claim, do it on land. >> that idea is being welcomed by the survivors who know how much is at stake and who have already lost so much. kim vanel, al jazeera, lampedusa. >> there was a fire today at the 9/11 national memorial complex at shanksville. marks the spots where united airlines flight 93 crashed
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during the september 11th terrorist attacks. today's flames caused no damage to the memorial itself. only administrative buildings were affected. cause is undetermined. u.s. job market gaining strength. unemployment rate at a six year low. 5.9% unemployment rate down from 6.1%. the job market added almost 250,000 jobs. yet many police officers say they can't find enough people. there are over 4 million unfilled jobs. tom ackerman in detroit. >> reporter: in detroit where the unofficial jobless rate is 10%, good jobs go begging. mccomb college, graduates who
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hold a degree are in demand. >> in my well program in my robotics program, there are two or three jobs waiting for them. >> tony is taking classes in advanced robotics to get even better ones. >> taking advantage of the facilities here are amazing. it's tough, i don't get much sleep but i know it's going to be worth ilt in the -- it in the end. >> according to a recent survey of hiring managers 30% say they are having trouble filling financial positions and 20% report it's difficult to find manufacturing personnel. at this small plant which makes lighting fixtures the owner linked up with a community college to link skills with what is required this a fast-growing job market. >> personnel that's needed to run the equipment to assist with
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our vertical integration. that is where mccomb community college has really come into play, as far as one fantastic strategic partner for us. >> reporter: but half of the company managers in that same survey also said their companies were not offering more pay or other bonuses to attract applicants, better compensation though won't be enough to solve the mismatch between job seekers and employers according to the company's president. >> it's in part wages in part interest and willingness to understand that not all the absences are known when you go into that industry and that you have to be able to adapt. >> reporter: as the u.s. economy keeps expanding so does the challenge. 9 in 10 personnel managers say they expect their labor shortages to get worse. tom ackerman, al jazeera, detroit. >> up next, a new i.s.i.l. video
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appears to be hoag th showing te beheading of a british aid worker. they say american is up next. a key kurdish city in syria.
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>> in syria he would be the fourth hostage beheaded by i.s.i.l. the video ends with peter kasich, a former army ranger, he was working as an aid worker when he was beheaded, in coalition for coalition air strikes. prime minister steven harper said canada's jets would participate. harper said canada will not
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deploy ground troops. >> syria is angry over turkey's decision to take part. meanwhile i.s.i.l. fighters are closing in on the town of kobani in syria. bernard smith reports from across the border in turkey. >> reporter: with tanks taken from the iraqi army, islamic state of iraq and the levant against fied their shelling of kobani on friday. a few,000 syrian kurdish fighters. shoot the tanks one commander tells the fighters. these men and women are unlikely to be able to hold this town for much longer without outside help. >> we wouldn't want kobani to fall. we welcome our brothers who came from kobani.
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we'll do whatever we can to prevent this from happening. >> reporter: but there's no indication that turkey's military is about to get involved in this battle. it could if it wanted to. there's new legislation that fights terrorism in syria and iraq. right now turkey is just a refuge for kobani's refugees. they blew up this french tank with antitank missiles but they say they need reenforcements. there's been a handful in recent days just enough it seems to keep i.s.i.l. at bay. but judging at the proximity it's going to be difficult to keep kobani from falling with just tanks loan. bernard smith on the turkey-syria border.
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>> john siegenthaler is here with a preview five days of fear. >> thanks randall. why former fighters say they joined the group but how they walked away. at families torn apart as husbands and sometimes wives leave home to join i.s.i.l. our special report's coming up next. >> consider this: the news of the day plus so much more. >> we begin with the growing controversy. >> answers to the questions no one else will ask. >> real perspective, consider this on al jazeera america
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>> escape from i.s.i.l. refugees by the hundreds of thousands trying to get away from a brutal enemy. fighters recruited to join a cause. can the international effort to stop i.s.i.l. work? as families are torn apart, our special report, five days of fear, escape from i.s.i.l. >> hi everyone i'm john siegenthaler. the islamic state of iraq and
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the levant is waging a campaign of fear and violence across two countries. iraq and syria. nick schifrin has been reporting from the turkish border. he's seen how i.s.i.l. recruits fighters, smug smuggles them acs the border. we begin with the human cost, thousands of syrian families forced to leave their homes to escape i.s.i.l. here is nick schifrin. >> in this war, the most common victims are syrian women and their families. thousands of syrian refugees flee to turkey. if you are syrian and three years old, your country has been fighting all your life. battle sparked the largest exodus of the syrian war. three quarters of the refugees
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are children and women. bottle of water and a backpack shaped like a doll. her seven-year-old sister eva is a strong one. her brother has seen too much to hold back. their mother tries to stay strong but it's impossible. i.s.i.l. terrifies her. >> translator: i'm not afraid of the shelling because we're already dead. we are splelt destroyed. i'm not -- completely destroyed. i'm not afraid of death. i'm afraid of them. >> reporter: as they leave the border, eva grabs her little sister's hand. they've lost three homes in two years. 50 miles away, a doctor walks through a park, worried her future will never live up to her past. >> it's the worst day of my
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life. >> reporter: she lived in nakka. decapitated bodies create a terrible servile population. >> why did you stay in the hospital? >> i had to do something. there are so many poor people in dacca, they need help. >> reporter: when she tried to save a female patient's life, medical necessity. >> she was dying? >> yes. >> they wanted to cover her face? she died? >> is he she died. >> reporter: in turkey, she can't practice medicine or work at all. she's afraid i.s.i.l. will find her and kill her. >> do you hope to go back to syria some day? >> i hope to go back but i don't think so. >> translator: i don't feel anything. what can i count on? even my husband has gone back to
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fight. i have no place, no house, nothing. >> reporter: she and her family now live in her brother-in-law's house. not much. 20 refugees for two rooms. she criticizes the u.s. for standing on the sidelines for years and then launching what she calls ineffective air strikes. >> translator: it's been four years. our houses are destroyed, so are our aims and our children' future. they are giving us little else, just hope, nothing's being done. >> reporter: this war has created the largest refugee crisis since world war ii. it's created a generation that's growing up way too fast. even the strongest can't bear to watch. >> al jazeera's digital editor,
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alia malik, thank you for being in our studio. first of all you went to erbil in iraq. how many people have fled i.s.i.l. and when did they tell you? >> it's in the several hundreds of thousands at this point. you also have refugees coming in also from syria. they told me stories that would really sort of chill your blood. for minorities like yazidis or christians shia not minority but not considered real muslims by i.s.i.l. they are facing extinction. for those who are the right sect of islam sunnies are facing a future uncertain and little control over. >> the women children flee and the men flee as well? >> a lot of the men flee as well, the ones i visited in the camps are full families. >> what are the conditions? >> bleak terrible, nothing any of us would want for our
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families. the weather is temperate right now but in the winter it will be very rough. >> we are creating this group of homeless people, i don't mean us but the world, this group of homeless people that are perpetually homeless. they have fled from syria and were gone for a while. >> so many people recount these times when they say to our spouses is this really what our lives are? are we not going back, they replay and turn to me and say is this our lives, is this possible that this is what comes next, day after day? >> you visited lebanon as well. >> yes. >> talk about what's happening with the refugees there. >> lebrolebanon is a place thate saturated. there is no way -- each
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individual family has to make their way, inside a country that can't handle them. that doesn't have room for their own people barely. >> when you say saturated what do you mean? >> lebanon, it's a lot for a few people to handle. >> hundreds of thousands of people? >> in lebanon we're talking about millions of people. >> what do they tell you? >> they tell me about the things they miss, what they left behind. they ask me more than what they tell me. is it true that the world is not going to do anything? is it true that our children are not going to go back to school, the house i finally made curtains for, that i had everything the way i wanted, is it really gone? >> what has lebanon had to say? >> it's a thicker skin a country
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who has gone through its only civil war. they say we can't take you, we don't want the problems -- people within lebanon's political problems have bikd syria and they don't want the blow back to come. in lebanon i went to shatil, the palestinian refugee camp, the absurdity, it hosts syrian refugees. each family has had to navigate the situation for itself. >> well, it's a story that continues to grow. and sadly without a big solution as well. ali it's good to have you on the program, thanks. >> thank you. >> there's a culture of fear inside i.s.i.l, some of their ranks saw the danger and ran for their lives. they told us how and why they
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left. nick schifrin once again. >> he closes the door on his troubled past. abu is the mosque's night guard, the boss is the guy he called his savior. if it were not for him, he would have been a suicide bomber in the islamic state of iraq and the levant. >> i thought they had the highest understanding of the religion that was based on the koran. >> just eight months ago, abu became a young man in a i.s.i.l. training camp. this may be a training video but he says it's accurate. he learned how to fire an assault weapon, how to fight as a group, how to fight hand to hand. >> when you joined them what did you think they would offer you?
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>> i didn't join them because i thought they could offer me anything, i joined them because i thought they offered me the best religious path. >> the man in this i.s.i.l. video giving fighters a pep talk. the day he realized he needed to leave i.s.i.l. was the day he killed a man. >> translator: i wouldn't want to kill a chick let alone a human being. i was forced to kill. what could i do? i regret it. i regret it. i was brain washed. >> reporter: across town abu hamsa told me joined for military might. i.s.i.l. offered more weapons higher salaries even bonuses for successful missions. >> translator: as an fsa fighter i would come to a base and there would be no food or money. i.s.i.l. provided all these things as well as protection. >> reporter: but he slowly
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realized his commanders were former lieutenants in saddam hussein's iraqi army. they lied and claimed fsa fighters were actually israelis. today he's still scared of them. that's why he won't show his face. >> we saw that the i.s.i.l. command were criminals, criminals who take advantage of the minds of muslim men for their own goals. >> urged them to flee by offering them a job and a different kind of religious inspiration. the sheik used to fight with guns but today he fights with ideas. he travels to syrian refugee camps to debate i.s.i.l. missionaries to argue their version of islam is brutal and distorted. he argued the same to abu. >> what is better to wait on a battlefield to kill a woman or to have a man bring to life a
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whole nation from his thinking? >> abu is the group's greatest creation, he applies for asylum in europe, the only way he feels safe is as far from i.s.i.l. as possible. >> still attracting fighters. according to the recent estimates from the cia, approximately 22 to 32,000 have joined i.s.i.l. earlier estimate was 10,000. recruits coming from 80 different nations. about 2,000 are believed to be from western countries. the crisis along turkey's border goes both ways, refugees flee out of syria, as well as others who go in to fight i.s.i.l. nick schifrin says how easy it is to cross the border. >> the mountains aren't an
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obstacle they're an invitation for omar. >> translator: people around the world wanted to help. their hearts went out to the syrian people. >> reporter: and to get to syria all you have to do is walk to the edge of the city into this forest. this is rahanli, a turkish city and the barbed wire is the only thing separating the syrian city of idlib. there is nothing to stop me from heading over the hill to syria. >> turkey said it kept its border porous. >> we have people from all over the world who have brothers from bangladesh from australia from u.k. >> if you are depressed, the cure for the depression is.
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>> they inspire i.s.i.l.'s unprecedented social media campaign. hundreds of propaganda videos highly produced well filmed, many featuring photogenic protagonists. >> i'm from the u.k, my name is abdalla. >> i'm from south africa. >> reporter: foreign fighters probably reject their citizenship for brother hood in islamic state. a few dozen are american. >> after islam after iraq, we are going for you barack obama. >> reporter: the u.s. believes many of these men crossed into syria from turkey, under heavy u.s. pressure, turkey agreed to close the border and wage war on i.s.i.l. >> we will fight effectively against islamic state and others
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in the nation. >> today abu omar has given up smuggling. and instead runs a falafel stand. >> there are reservations and countries have made i.s.i.l. the boogie man. >> allowed to officially cross into syria are its tanks. >> still ahead how the group recruits and keeps its fighters on the front lines and how it's tearing families apart.
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>> and al jazeera special report. five days of fear, escape from i.s.i.l. >> all week long we have been featuring our series five days of fear, escaping i.s.i.l. our nick schifrin has spoken to former i.s.i.l. fighters to syrians who have fled i.s.i.l.'s
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tyranny. nick schifrin joins us one last:00 frolasttime from istanb. nick. >> turks have increasingly become the target of recruitment for i.s.i.l. not only men to fight for i.s.i.l.'s brutal sectarian war but also men and women to populate i.s.i.l.'s self declared islamic state. >> every time shahin akin looks through these photos, every time he comes here to work and flips through these pages he fears the family he had may never return. >> translator: i remember those beautiful days. i remember what i lived. it's impossible to forget those days. the day my child was born. >> reporter: six year ago he married, he was a muslim from turkey. she a christian from cir cur k
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isirgustan. she converted to islam, she put on a head scarf and became asimi, she wanted to marry a fighter from the islamic state of iraq and the levant. >> she completely isolated herself, her brain became stoned her eyes became closed. >> because their son was only three, the judge awarded his custody to her. >> the detective work brought him to this neighborhood. and that building. he said that was a i.s.i.l. safe house. this wasn't a poor area full of disaffection that i.s.i.l. pres
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often, svetlana was lured here. by the time shahin had arrived here, svetlana and their son had already left. she fled to the epicenter of i.s.i.l.'s brutality. i.s.i.l. calls this its headquarters. on the streets women must stay covered or risk public whipping but dozens of foreign women like svetlana pilgrimage here. >> i don't want to come back. what you're saying is bull (bleep) if i want to come back i can't, i'm happy here. >> but shahin knows his son is not happy. >> reporter: do you still feel the connection with your son? >> translator: i saw him in my dreams, he stretches out his hand and i try to take his hand but i'm paralyzed.
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>> reporter: i.s.i.l. presents itself as family friendly. >> i'm thinking like i'm in a dream world. i'm in raqqa. >> i.s.i.l. has recruited thousands of families. ripped thousands of families apart. shahhin hasn't opened this door in three months. this was his son's room, his favorite shirt. the hats he wore when they sailed together. the rocking horse he ate breakfast on. >> you keep this room as it is because you expect him to come back? >> translator: i want the world to help me, i want my child, give me back my child, his place is where he was born. >> so we end the evening on his
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boat, named destin, named after his son. also on behalf of the thousands of families whose children have been kidnapped or currently living in that islamic state in iraq and syria. >> nick there's been a lot of political back and fort in the region but i want to speak about the human element. is there relief given to the refugees who are still flowing out of syria? >> i think it's important that as we talk so much about the strategy to defeat i.s.i.l. about i.s.i.l.'s brutality about the group's success ton ground this is still a humanitarian story. this is still a story about a syrian civil war about the largest refugee crisis since world war ii where 9 million syrian that's a third of the country no longer live in the homes that they used to live in three years ago. a place where 60% of all the hospitals have been destroyed, 40% of all the homes across the country have been damaged or
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destroyed. so when you talk about the scale of this crisis absolutely not is the answer that people are getting aid fast enough. we spent a lot of time right on the border, there's a lot of syrian kurds fleeing. over the last week and a half we have seen hundreds of people living in wedding halls for example, we've seen children lining up outside of turkish red crescent stands where they get soup and a bowl of rice, something they hold in one hand and that's supposed to need seven people. turkey are has spent $7 billion to try to help the unofficial numbers in the country. the official number is probably -- the help can't arrive fast enough. >> nick what's your impression?
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>> the towns and cities we've been in, among the syrians there is a thankfulness, a gratitude but then there's a split. most of the people i speak to say exactly the same thing. that that if you are going to target i.s.i.l. you need to target the regime. the moderate syrians who need to be on the ground to defeat i.s.i.l. they have been fighting on two fronts this whole time, against i.s.i.l. and other groups and against the regime. to a person all the fighters i've spoken to say we need to attack the regime. if you don't attack the regime in addition to i.s.i.l. we will not be able to be aggressive against i.s.i.l. and push i.s.i.l. back along the front lines. there is another strand of criticism that the u.s. strikes actually went too far the first night, the very first night the
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u.s. said it targeted the leadership of khorasan, made up of former lieutenants of osama bin laden, who had designs to attack the united states itself. nobody here has heard of that group. when they looked at that strikes they saw the targets of nusra, who has been fighting against i.s.i.l. by targeting both i.s.i.l. and nusra, those two groups will unite. there's been a lot of gratitude on the notion that the u.s. is finally coming in but a lot of criticism against the strikes on the ground. >> there are many who criticize them but if air strikes isn't enough is there a sense of training what the government calls moderate syrian opposition and a lot of people are not sure what that means. but if it's a moderate be syrian opposition can they take on i.s.i.l. on the ground? >> i think your skepticism is
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absolutely right on. there is a question of whether you can find the right groups. whether they're unified enough whether they are moderate but let's just say that these groups who have been fighting for three years are a slightly more modified. there is a lot of american intelligence agents, a lot of cia officials on the ground trying to figure out which people are the right people to train. that training will really kick into full gear in the next couple months to saudi arabia and the u.s. that deal for $500 million to train all those people but no, the training hasn't started yet and we spend a lot of time with fighters and commanders on the border and they all say where's the training? you have been talking about this for weeks now and we haven't seen a single thing. this is criticism of u.s. talking about helping the free syrian army, talking about the people fighting assad but not actually doing it.
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they said you have given us enough to survive barely but not enough to be aggressive and pushing the front forward. that is what they're looking for. they warn if the help doesn't come soon they will lose to i.s.i.l. and the regime. >> the people you have been speaking with predict they need to fight i.s.i.l. and to defeat i.s.i.l? >> reporter: i'll put it this way, not a single political appointee that suspects when he or she loses his job when the next president comes in that this war will be over. everybody believes that this is going to take years. in a year you can only train 5,000 moderate syrian troops, free syrian army members. general dempsey, the general of
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the -- head of the joint chiefs of staff says this will take years. whether the iraqi troops that we spent so many trillions on could actually push forward inside iraq and whether these moderate syrian fighters can push forward against i.s.i.l, this is not easy and cannot be done at all from the air and so we will be talking about the wars in syria and iraq for many years to come. >> nick schifrin, from istanbul. thank you very much. that's our special report, thanks for joining us. i'm john siegenthaler.
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>> i live in mosca, colorado aka the middle of nowhere. i can't always be myself. i'm considered one of the misfits. i haven't seen my mom in the longest time. my stepdad and i, we don't really see eye to eye. i really want to get out of here. i'm going to check out if i got accepted into colorado college. it is imperative that i get into college at this point. if i don't, i feel like i can't get out of mosca.