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is doing just that. dysfunction on display this week at the white house, amid conflicts with israeli prime minister binyamin netanyahu. america is arming moderate rebels in syria to fight i.s.i.l. are there many left. i'm antonio mora, welcome to "consider this", those stories and more ahead. israeli prime minister binyamin netanyahu met with president obama. >> we have to find ways to change the status quo, and we'll discuss... >> preventing them from becoming a nuclear power. >> going on safari could be a thing of the past of the half the world's animals disappeared in the last 40 years.
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>> the real drives are consumption. >> another high school football player died during a game, the third in the past week. >> a lot of crime, a lot of questions, a lot of shock. >> we begin with israeli prime minister binyamin netanyahu's first visit to the white house since the summer war in gaza, in his speech at the u.n. general assembly on tuesday, he blasted what he considers a double standard on terrorism. >> the same country that support confronting i.s.i.s., oppose israel for confronting hamas. they have evidently don't understand that i.s.i.s. and hamas are branches of the same poisonous tree. >> the status of peace talks with hamas were one of many issues discussed with president obama on wednesday. the leaders were cordial, but the divergent priorities of each were clear, with president obama pushing for comprehensive peace
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with palestinians. >> we have to find ways to change the status quo. >> while binyamin netanyahu wanted the focus on iran, warning the president about them developing nuclear wep jones. >> i -- weapons. >> i hope under your leadership that will not happen. >> joining us from the woodrow wilson center, an advisor for the republican and democratic secretaries of state, helping to form ulate u.s. poly and lass an author. erin, the president and prime minister long had a prickly relationship. as i said, they had different agendas. the president wanting to focus on gaza and the broader piece with palestinians, binyamin netanyahu wanted to focus on the what do you thing was going on behind closed doors?
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>> first of all, i think the president is lying about focussing on israeli-palestinian peace is a throw away. this president has been wary about getting involved in this issue for some time. by and large he's not prepared now. we'll see what happens after the midterms of 2015. at number two, the president has his hands full. some argued he's beleaguered with the recon figuration of a military campaign in iraq and syria, which will draw him in deeper to the internal politics of syria, not only with respect to i.s.i.s., but bashar al-assad as well. to a degree, you mite even org awe -- might even argue that the two men with a dysfunctional relationship, one of the worst in relationships between israeli prime ministers and presidents, and i have watched more than a few come and go. in many respects, given the
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timely remains in the obama presidency, they really are probably more oriented around a common theme than ever before. chances of a break through in the israeli, palestinian issue are slim to none. the president and focussed on militant islam and i.s.i.s., and the iranian p5+1 negotiations in late november are coming to a head. very much this will be a period coming up that will focus on not arab israeli peace, but on islam. >> let's talk about the issues and the dysfunction. first, the civilian deaths in gaza angered the u.s. the president pressed binyamin netanyahu again on wednesday about preventing civilian casualties, and the u.s. relaxed its strict policies to protect civilians. we are seeing i.s.i.l. hiding among civilians in syria and
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iraq. is the u.s. being hypocritical. >> so many anomalies and contradictions shape the policies of power. whether it's contradiction or hypocrisy, the reality when we operate in iraq and afghanistan we confronted to a certain degree the same kinds of challenges that the israelis did report to causing -- respect to causing civilian casualties and deaths. the president made his .2 months ago, with respect to gaza. again, i think the raising of the civilian issue of wilfully and purposely targetting civilians is a throw away line. >> always in the middle east we have the what ifs, and the circular arguments. the president - even though as you say may not be pushing hard for a broader peace between israel and the palestinians, but binyamin netanyahu, again, comes
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to the united states after the israelis approved thousands of settlements in east jerusalem. it feels - certainly i'm getting that sense from you, you want to throw up your arms and say forget about it. >> you know, look, there's a certain reality here. i mean, it seems - it may be politically incorrect or inconvenient to admit it. there's a certain reality. unlike lehman brothers, the u.s. relationship is too big to failment regardless of the dysfunction that exists at the top, differences over issues, tactically with respect to iran, strategically with respect to america's conception of a 2-state solution, versus binyamin netanyahu's. none of this matters. in the end, for many regions, including domestic politics and the reality that no president, unless there is sufficient
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reason, will wilfully pick a fight with the israelis. >> there was one that came out of the discussions that i thought was interesting, was that binyamin netanyahu brought up the penalty of aligning with moderate arab states, bringing them into the peace process. that's something i have not heard before, because they think the interests have eye lined. do you think that's a good idea, or an idea that would even nigh? >> it's a movie that has been played for a long time. it's a series of principles, not a blueprint or a roadmap. if the government of israel wanted to bring the arab world into a legitimate peace process, and perhaps each in a way put dightsal pressure on the palestinians, endorse the peace initiative. that would do it.
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the original talking point in the speech that so many arab states oppose israel's campaign against hamas, yet encourage the united states to blast i.s.i.s., because they are one and the same. the prime minister nose that those arab states during the gaza campaign isn't pressure the israelis, the silence in the arab world was deafening with respect to support for palestinians, hamas. you had egypt, saudi, and the u.a.e. aligning against hamas because their broader priority and the larger fear is not israel, it's i.s.i.s. on one hand, and militant shia islam, iran and hezbollah on the other. >> the question is whether you can bring them into a peace process coming up with a two state solution that would tick. erin david miller, good to have you with us.
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>> always a pleasure. turning to turkey, timely becoming a member of the coalition to fight i.s.i.s. in iraq and syria. the move could allow n.a.t.o. allies to use the air base at insir lick to launch attacks -- incirlik to launch attacks. fighting sent thousands of refugees fleeing to turkey, adding to the growing humanitarian crisis. there are doubts about the one group willing to fight in syria, the moderate syrian rebels. joining us in new york is joshure hersch, a contributor to "the daily beast", his latest piece is "guide to the last of syria's good guys." good to have you with us. alarming, your story. you are focussing on the moderates that we are supposed to arm and equip and train. and the hope, of course is they will carry out the fighting in syria. what you are saying is most of
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the those good guys, human tarians - that they are gone. basically chased away by i.s.i.l. and bashar al-assad. . >> that is right, we are seeing it embraced by the moderates the search for the rebels. do the moderate rebels exist, that's what i was looking at. who are moderates, and by moderate, which is a relative term, i mean how you and i may define it, people in the audience may define if, a lot of those guys are those that you imagine. the ideologists, activists, humanitarians, doctors that gave up the practice and mooed to syria. what we -- and moved to syria. what we have seen is these peopleville fled the country, they've been silenced and are not there as much as they used to be. >> when i.s.i.l. takes obvious, they kill the guys, including the doctors, who technically
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they need. >> a certain amount were pushed out by the regime. over the next year or so, some people fell off, some you may call mad rates, some -- moderates, some said that's enough for me, but a whole group of dedicated activists that risked their lives, lying in idlib and aleppo. they were holding out and doing their best to advance the revolution. i.s.i.s. comes along and attacks them and forced them out. you had journalists who couldn't do their job. others under threat. this happened over a year ago this happened. >> what is going on in washington. is it wishful thinking or denial similar to what we saw with i.s.i.l. in january, when they had taken over a couple of cities, the president was calling it a jv team, now are we doing the same thing, thinking there's enough of a moderate fighting force, that they'll be
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able to take on i.s.i.l. >> i would like to see... anyone that supports the ideals of the opposition would love to see the moderate group grow and have space to grow. anything could happen, it's i.s.i.l.'s push back, it may create create room and space. we are not seeing that space. the things that we associate with the uprising. >> was the president being realistic when he talked about arming them, and we couldn't arm that. >> it was a realistic assessment of the situation. you are being overly dismissive to the president, if i cap say that, to say because they were farmers, they can't learn to be train pd. a lot of the small brigades are
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led by former syrian army commanders and captains, they are smart and talented people. they are marginalised and part of the opposition. the question is can they be wrangled together and be coordinated to print an on the ground counterforce to i.s.i.s. some american politicians believe we can. john mccain is among the vocal ones, saying we need to arm the moderates. there are reports of some brigades, especially near aleppo, who are engaging i.s.i.l., and who are legitimate fighting forces. >> it's true. they exist. i met some of them, you can collect hundreds of people whether they can take the groups we like to see taken on, and not
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do what alienates them from the questions. >> coordination is important. there has been discord among the moderates about what the u.s. should do, whether they bomb i.s.i.l., and the bashar al-assad regime, and also as to how much they can help us, if we do have them on the ground, why are they not helping us tart the right locations, because there has been complaints that we haven't been doing that. there are a lot of people in the moderate opposition upset with who we are attacking. it will be a long road ahead. they exist. what i wanted to look at is who do they represent, beyond just people with guns. in the beginning they represented groups of civil activists that had the ideals that were closer to what we imagined the upbringing being.
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a lot of the civil activists are gone and are no longer there. do the fighting forces have a constituency holding them accountable and pushing them in the direction we want to see them going, and are they fighters, people with guns. >> a lot to be concerned about. pleasure to have you with us. "consider this" will be right >> i lived that character >> a hollywood icon forest whitaker >> my interest in acting was always to continue to explore how it connected to other people >> making a difference >> what is occurring in other places, is affecting so many different ways... >> inspiring others >> we have to change those things, in order to make our whole live better >> every saturday, join us for exclusive... revealing... and surprising talks with the most interesting people of our time... talk to al jazeera, only on al jazeera america
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back. o as part of the continuing political coverage leading toed midterm elections i was joined by the atlanta mayor, who was in los angeles taking part in a panel of immigration.
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the summit was presented by the atlantic, aspen institute and bloomberg phillan throughies. we discussed immigration, the importance of the voters, and why georgia could be in play for the democrat. it's a pleasure to have you with us, mayor reed. >> glad to be with you. >> i know you are talking about immigration. you have been talking about immigration a lot. earlier this summer you came out strongly in support of the unaccompanied migrant children that came across the border illegally. you said we have a moral responsibility to care for the kids and they'd be welcome in atlanta, even though that put you at odds with the georgian governor, who said he did not want them to come to california. that makes you sound like a national poll stirn, not a why? >> i was speaking from the heart. as the home of martin luther king, and other leaders in the
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civil rights movement in the united states, that it was important to welcome 1,000 children, that's what we have been going. >> did the governor have a point complaining to the white house that the administration did not give him notice that the kids are going? >> i don't have a comment on what he thought or felt. the bottom line is i think you have to deal with things the way they are. there are 1,000 young people, and anyone that followed what was going on apt the southern border -- at the southern border and new there would be a surge of young people coming to the united states, i didn't believe that we should poll it size coming to the united states, we needed to treat them well, embrace them. we have laws signed by george w. bush, determining how the young people should be treated, and that's the path that we should follow, and all should have an
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opportunity to have a day in court, which seems to be the path that we are on now. >> how is it all playing out so far? is the federal government taking care of the costs. what do you say to the governor who said the kids would drive up communities? >> what i say to anyone is georgia and atlanta, we have a big heart and more than enough capacity to make sure that these 1,000 guests are well cared for, and we do our part, and that is what we are doing. >> now,gain, you embraced and announced an initiative. you said the men crontributions that many are making and between 2012, immigrants accounted for two-thirds of the population growth, so you have experience with an immigrant population,
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what do you think on a national level. do you think the president has - has it been dealt with properly at a national level? >> the answer is no. the bottom line is that the senate passed a bipartisan bill that had a surge in border protection. the largest increase in border protection ever that addressed critics concerned about sealing the borders, it had a pathway to leadership, citizenship and was passed overwhelmingly. for whatever reason, our republican friend in the house chose not to take up the bipartisan bill. it would have put this contentious issue behind us, been the most important... >> what about the president taking action, putting it off until after the election? >> i think that compared to what has happened with the way that our friends in the republican house handled it, it's a small thing. we have an opportunity - had and
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have at this moment - the opportunity for genuine reform that would be the most sweeping reform since raying was president. the -- regan was president. the issue around when the president takes unilateral action is a small issue in terms of what we need to do globally for our country around the issue of immigration. >> let's talk about national politics. you have been quoted as saying that georgia will be in play. you think it could be a swing state in 2016, despite the fact that it's been republican baston for many years. >> yes. i think that the democrats will win georgia in 2016. we have a u.s. senate race with michelle nunn in it. it's competitive. polls showed one candidate or the either up and down.
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georgia has an active minority population. the state will be competitive, and it will be in the democrats column in 16 mentioning michelle nunn, you complained about her or the governor's race, the strategy of having candidates in georgia, waiting until the last minute to appeal to african-americans. it's something that i talked about on the show a couple of weeks ago. is the democratic party taking granted? >> i think the democratic party in georgia is not engaging in a strategy to win. if we moved forward with the reg ration scuffed in may or june, noble that the race would be close right now. that said, the race is neck and nick, and michelle nunn has an opportunity to win.
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i'm not going to back away one step from the fact that you have 600,000 black registered voters, and between 100 and 300,000 unregistered hispanic votes. it represents a terrific opportunity, that's why i pointed it out. we did a segment last night talking about african-americans only make up 4.3% of city councils and 2% of all mayors. what do you think is going on, how can that be changed? >> well i think that can be changed by delivering concrete results and working harder. engaging the constituencies, black people, in the way they need to be engaged. the fact of the matter is what inspires black voters to vote, and
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reaching them can be different than the methods and tactics used in mainstream politics. i think we know what to do. we have to work at it. democrats should make that a repeatedly. >> mayor, pleasure to have you with us on the show. thank you. >> thank you for having me. >> should minorities be naturally inclined to vote republican. our next guest argues immigrants and minorities are people of strong faith leaving other countries to get away from government intervention, he said both of those should bring them into the g.o.p. we are joined from washington d.c. a second term representative to the virginia house of dell galts, won his seat twice as a republican, despite the fact that president obama won the vote in his district both times. good of you to be with us. you were born and raised in
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lebanon to a muslim mother, christian father. as an arab american you tried to make your party more inclusive because you feel the g.o.p. is missing a huge opportunity for voters. >> thank you. good to be with you. it's a missed opportunity, that's all that it is. it's been a rough 10 years for the g.o.p. with minorities, and due to many and different reasons. some of it is local and some international. nothing has changed in principle. the g.o.p. is a still a big tent and always will be. the republican party is a party of lincoln. it's the party of people of faith, entrepreneurs, immigrants and people that want less government. it's a natural place for all exist. >> it doesn't seem like that is the case, as we look at this the
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problem for the g.o.p. is huge. minorities are defecting. minorities used to vote. now they dropped off and voted for president obama. his panics defect. with minorities among the youngest americans, this is a massive problem that g.o.p. needs to deal with if they hope to win elections in the future. >> it is, and we are, we are dealing with it on local, national levels as well. the trend has changed. it was going down, and it was a problem. continues to be a problem. it has changed. there's a buyers's remorse, having a black president, a minority, a candidate at the time and president took away from the g.o.p. however, we have all seen failed policies, and minorities like everyone else, entrepreneurs, businessmen suffering the economy, that under the
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president has gone down. we have seen minorities that have a problem with hiring and a problem with capital in the market because of obama care. we have seen minorities of americans that are dealing with a failing foreign policy in the middle east. there is a buyer remorse. winston churchill said americans will do the right thing after trying everything else. they tried everything else. they tried the other side, and we are waiting and welcoming them back into the proper place, which is the republican party. polls showed that there has been a change in the trend as a result of the various strong disapproval ratings for president obama. one of the points that you made is immigrants leave the old countries because many times those total tarian governments want less intervention, a republican tenuate. why is the republican party not able to make that something that
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is a part of their message, that appeals to these people? >> we are, they are. i'm not sure if you had a chance to see chairman prius, who outlined the 30 day plan, basically, prior to the election. this is a message that is resonating not only with minorities, but majority of americans. we see the trend changing and are looking forward to a midterm election. we are looking forward to taking over the senate again and a majority in the senate. the message is there, working, looking forward to working with many in the media and unions, making sure they reach equally for both parties. we are working on the ground with asian americans, spanish americans, and district in northern virginia, that has over 35% minorities, most of which are asians and most of which are
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indians. they voted for president obama twice, and for me, and now they are voting for the party. we introduced them to the party, it's engage and include. as long as we continue to do that, we, the party with the right message, will succeed. >> include is a big part of it. it has not always been kind to minorities. colin powell, a conservative, he said that there's a dark vein of intolerance that courses through saying: . >> we are looking at it when it comes to immigration, to voting restrictions apart from the wars that you mention that make many minorities reject the republican party, how do you get away from that dark vein of intolerance that colin powell referred to.
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>> i'll quote governor jindal, louisiana, a minority family and himself an indian american. he said at several points there has been members of the party, not the party itself, but members in the party that acted stupidly. you know, it's our, the minority members to engage both ways and engage with the majority making sure they upped the need, wants of the minority, which is nothing different to what the majority wants. strong country and economy, and an opportunity. all we came to this country for, this greatest country on earth is an opportunity. that's what the immigrants want, and what the
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a controversial book is so critical of vladimir putin's rise to power in russia that a british publisher refused to publish it, telling the story of corruption, how putin and a cabal of ex kgb cronies took control of government and economy, casting aside a budding capitalist economy. joining us center washington d.c. is karen, the dollar of the putin's hypocrisy "who owns russia", she's a professor of political signs and director for russian studies. us. >> thank you. you begin with vladimir putin, and his story back in the late '80s, as the soviet union is collapsing. massive amounts of money is funnelled out of the country, it's been put into western banks, and you describe how this sets the stage for vladimir
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putin, who was in the kgb, because they were instrumental to what was going on. >> absolutely right. so what happened was the communist party was concerned that if it lost control, if russia were to become a multiparty system, they would lose access to state coffers. so they started to move the money. and historically the group that has moved that money has been the kgb. they authorised the kgb to move the money out of the country. when they did that. they basically took all the money from gorbachev and the money for yeltsin, bankrupting the country. instead cpsu coming back, they were banned when it tried a coup against yeltsin. the money was abroad and the only people that had the numbers
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in the accounts were kgb. they emerged as the holders of knowledge about where the money is, how deep it's bury. lots of offshore accounts. >> the cps union and the communist party. >> absolutely. >> vladimir putin became the mayor of st. petersburg. >> he losses the job and becomes president in less than four years. how did that happen? he lost the job. the '90s was marked with his efforts to escape prosecution. there were criminal cases, two, that he was named in. he needed to keep going up the food chain to control the gathering storm against him. and others. not only him. but against him for sure. he took one job after the other. by the summer of 1999, he had become the head of the f.s.b.
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remember, this is someone who when he retoird from the f.s.b. -- retired from the f.s.b. was only a colonel, and there were hundreds of people more qualified to take that position than himself. i think one of the conclusions of the book was that there were those who made the coup against gorbachev in 1991, and they saw in vladimir putin, a young, robust, the next generation, who they could rely on o bring the kgb back, they failed in '91, but succeeded in 2000. >> he was kgb and had associations with organised crime. it seemed he and his cronies were motivated on two factors, driven by a thirst for wealth and power, and wanted to return russia to the glory they felt it had before the collapse of the soviet union, he thought the greatest tragedy was the
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collapse of the soviet union. what do you think was the primary factor behind the rise? >> i don't think he would have risen had it not been for his desire to acquire more and more prerequisites of power. there is greed amons the group at the core. when -- amongst the group at its core. when we see choices, they made choices that served the economic interest of the larger group around vladimir putin. one shouldn't underestimate the importance of the new nationalism. you can't go to the population and say "i'm corrupt", please keep me. you are using the new nationalism as part of it, extensive and successful propaganda campaign to cement his position. >> we saw it in crimea, eastern ukraine and georgia.
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the irony is he attacked the oligarchs, only to create an oligarchy of his own. you wrote 35% of all of russia's wealth is held by 110 people. >> right. these are not my statistics, but the results of a report issued by credit suisse last year about global wealth. they highlighted the situation that emerged in russia, in which the largest wealth and equality of any country in the world, that's a lot of countries where there's an unequal contribution of wealth. >> you called it gradation not seen in russia since the tsars. >> that's right. >> it's an astonishing amount of money that these people managed to grab for themselves, and, of course, many of these cronies are among those who are - who have been sanctioned by the united states and western europe.
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how much of an effect is that having on vladimir putin and his circle? >> none of them is very happy. so they have all withdrawn into russia. evidently a lot of their money has been taken back to russia. i doubt that all of it is back. a lot of it will be buried deep in the hope that we won't find it and there'll be a second reset, and so in the near future, things will be all right, and those funds will be there. a lot has gone home. and, i mean, one of the the closest friends has said that he regrets the loss of his learjet. two weeks ago they went after rotten burg's property in italy - his villas, a luxury house and so forth.
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it's not just sanctioning of bank account. the west is moving to identify and point out that we know you have it. that's a very unsettling thing for them. >> again the book is: it tells an important story about what is going on in moscow. pleasure to have you with us. >> "consider this" will be right back. >> kentucky, a state that's hurting economically. >> when the mines shut down it affects other businesses too you know, it hurts everything. >> some say it's time for a change. >> mitch has been in there so long. >> while others want to stay the course. >> all the way mitch! you know exactly what these people needs in kentucky. >> communities trying to cope. what does the future hold? >> the economy, the struggling coal industry and healthcare are all impacting their vote. >> "america votes 2014 / fed up in kentucky". all next week. only on al jazeera america.
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>> next saturday, a horrific outbreak. >> the death toll from this
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epidemic could be much higher than anyone knows. >> the search for answers. >> 8000 people are already dead, mr. president. who should answer for those people? >> who brought cholera to haiti? >> so you don't have to explain yourselves? >> no. >> "faultlines". al jazeera america's hard-hitting, >> today, they will be arrested. >> groundbreaking, >> they're firing canisters of gas at us. >> investigative documentary series. watch the emmy award winning episode: "haiti in a time of cholera". next saturday, 7:00 eastern. only on al jazeera america. the world wildlife fund released a report, and the news is terrible. we have lost 52% of wildlife populations between 1970 and 2010, a more rapid loss than previous studies showed. demands on natural resources are higher than the planet can bear. for more i'm joined from geneva by the director of the global species programme for the world
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wildlife fund international. good to have you with us. this report is grim. biodiversity at risk. animal species, down by more than half, including land and marine species down 39%, and fresh water species, a staggering 76". that's twice the number of what you were reporting in the past by the wwf. what has changed? >> the findings of this report are particularly worry some to me. this is really the thermometer of the way human kind interacts with the echo systems, and is reveal it has been irresponsible over the last 40 years. the challenge in the figures, and the ones of 2012 have a lot to do with mitted logical change that -- myth logical change that fine-tuned the tool to reveal what is happening with the
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population of birds, reptiles, frog, fish and mammals. >> is it accelerating? >> it is accelerating. it used to be a declining trend. we confirm that for sure, and it's more pronounced in the tropics than in the temperate regions, there's differences in terms of the income of the countries with the richest countries seeing a 10% increase in the values of their population of animals. the poorest countries saw a 58% loss over the last 40 years. >> why is it happening? >> relatively simple. it boils down to two main factors, habitat and degradation and overexploitation through hunting and finishing excessively. you add on top of that climate change, and you have the perfect storm for biodiversity. >> in the biodiversity decline, it's worse in the tropics of
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latin america. numbers are shocking. 83% since 1970. it raises a question - do people in long income parts of the world have to choose between a decline in those species, and somehow having a more, you know, a better existence. >> it is evident that developing countries have resorted to the natural resource base and natural resource capital. it is not necessarily a condition in order to reach development because green economies are based on the premise that you make a sustainable use of natural resources, insure that you have a water supply that is long term, that you have all the benefits from timber and other products, from harvesting the ocean sustainably for generations to come. these are choices that the leaders of the nations have to make at this point in time, knowing better from the
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experience of the temperate regions, which are showing an increase, but if we went back 100, 150 years as soon as. we would have seen the sharply declines that we are documenting as well. >> that is the one good news, in richer countries we are seeing an increase in biodiversity. any loss of species is sad. they have evolved and disappeared over millions of years. why should people care? could it not simply be something that is happening now, and we'll see a rebound in years to come? >> the rate of species extinctions today is unprecedented. some scientists say it's in the order of 100, to 1,000 times faster. the biggest event of the dinosaur. and this one is caused by us, our decisions, our handling.
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we have a responsibility vis-a-vis the next generations. our children and grandchildren to hand over a living planet, for them to benefit from the natural resource space. >> the report evaluated humanities ecological footprint. everything we need from nature that needs physical space, grazing, fishing, forests. we will need 1.5 planet earths for everything we want from the planet today, and the world's population is growing tremendously. what do we do? >> yes, indeed, defining our bank account is in red by half a plan elt. we need to reverse the trend urgently. countries need to realise that a green economy is the way forward. it's an economy based on the sustainability. it's based on responsible and better production schemes for
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all things that rely on natural resources. agriculture relies on water, the fish that we eat relies on a healthy ocean. the next thing we need to see happen is consumers becoming wiser about choices they make. consumerism needs to stop. we need to think of an economy that is based rather on long-lasting products that minimise the ecological production. >> as you know, in the "'60s, and '70s, there were books in vogue warning of catastrophe, but the world has seen an improvement in the standard of living for most people. how do we find a balance? >> i have to say there are signs of hope towards a green economy, senses that are general. we have labels certifying
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sustainable origin of forest products, and sustainable origin of marine products, fisheries worldwide. to the extent that an approaches is taken to the product, we are making important progress. we need to do more than that. we need to put the correct value to our natural resource base and include it into the national economy calculations. what is the price of losing these assets today for the generations of the future. water will be a limitation. we have to do those calculations. the right mind-set is there, with good examples or healthy relationships shows an economic, social, ecological pay offs. >> important questions raised by the report. >> carlos, director of the world wildlife fund international.
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>> protestors are gathering... >> there's an air of tension right now... >> the crowd chanting for democracy... >> this is another significant development... >> we have an exclusive story tonight, and we go live... tom cutinella, a 16-year-old varsity player from long island new york died after a big hit on the football field. he's the third high school football player to die in less than a week. it came days after a kansas city player that killed himself and
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girlfriend in 2012 suffered c.t.e. , reigniting discussion of dangers in concussion in football at all levels. joining us is dr robert can't u, one of the for most authorities on braininjuries and sport. he's is co-director for the center of enselfa lop rofy which investigates the link between concussion and brain disease. good of you to join us. the research found 76 out of 79 brains much former football players had evidence of c.t.e. numbers are probably skewed because c.t.e. can only be determined after death, and the people donating their brains for study are those who in most cases had cognitive issues whilst alive. numbers are shocking. >> the numbers are showing. as you indicate, this is a segment of football players from the n.f.l. that had symptoms
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consistent with cognitive issues, behavioural and mood issues, putting them at risk for c.t.e. that is - that's a 95% battery rate. that is high. the n.f.l. admitted that it expect a third of all players will end up with long-term issues. again, it's a high number population. >> yes, it's many, many times the general population, and we really don't know whether that one-third is an accurate figure or not. we don't today know the actual incidents and prevalence of c.t.e. amongst former n.f.l. players. we know that those we study - almost all of them seem to have it. asymptomatic. >> given what you have learnt, what does that mean for football in general? >> i think it's important to understand that c.t.e. is out there in society, with people
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that never played a sport, laced on a shoe or a helmet, but took head trauma falling off bikes or with falls. c.t.e. is due to representative brain trauma. it's not just people that have that trauma through sports. and c.t.e. is in virtually every sport out in that has head trauma. it's been identified now in rugby and soccer and ice hockey, and more recently in baseball. so that it's not unique to football. i don't think just because we had this overwhelming amount of cases from football, it's singling it out. it's deemed at risk, but is not the only sport. >> parents have been very concerned since this news came out after many of the discoveries that you were responsible for over the years. can new technologies, you know, focussing on football. new helmets prevent injuries.
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is there something that can be done to protect players? >> the brain trauma is due primarily to the rapid changing position of the head due to a hit most commonly to the head, but sometimes to another part of the body that snaps the head back or forwards. that sudden change in position of the head is not going to be eliminated by helmets. they can slightly attenuate the risk of concussion, do a great job for skull fracture or intercranial bleeds, but will not be the answer for concussion. >> have you seen changes in child participation in football? >> well it ain't the incidents of young children playing tackle football. it's down. the incidents of flag football is up. i personally think that is good. two years ago we came out with a book - concussion and our kids - and advocated for no tackle
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football under the age of 14, play flag football, teach tackling on mannikins, not kids banging heads. >> do you see rule changes as something that can . the n.f.l. emphasised some of this, hoping to stop the injuries. do you think with the nature of the players getting big and faster, and the nature of the done? >> well i think there are things that can be done. the n.f.l. is to be cop gradualated for taking a leading role. some of the things that they have done that is meaningful is to reduce full contact in practices to 14 times in 18 times of the season. you hit less in the n.f.l. than at any other level of football. at other levels you hit with full contact practices weekly, two or three times, you play a game on top of that.
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you have spring ball, football camps. that was a huge step forward, they identified the defensive players, someone whose eye was on the ball,icing, catching -- kicking, catching, receiving it. i think they are great steps? the right direction, as is moving the kick off up, so that more than 50% of kick offs in the n.f.l. are not run back. all that trauma is eliminated. they are great steps. the next big step is calling the rules in the rule book. you can't use the head or the helmet as the initial point of contact in the act of blocking or tackling. force. >> lot of important points. dr robert can't u, it's a pleasure to have you with us. >> thank you, my pleasure. >> that's all for now. the conversation conditions on the website aljazeera.com/considerthis. we are on facebook and twitter @ajconsiderthis, or tweet me at
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