been discovered in indonesia. new can stay up to date with all of the news at aljazeera.com. >> ebola right now looks like a major risk and shock for three countries. it could spread if we don't get on top of it. dr jim yong kim warns that the economic fallout from the ebola virus could be catastrophic. in addition to heading up the world bank, kim is a doctor and expert in infectious diseases. >> if we don't get on top of it and it spreads to 15 countries, beyond the borders of africa, we

impact. >> kim is voicing concerns about carbon emissions. >> in china 1.2 million decide pollution. >> i caught up with one of the world's influential people at the clinton global initiative. and i spoke to carolyn miles, c.e.o. of save the children, which helped 140 million young people around the world last year. an organization's main concer oor youth in america. >> in rural america, one in four kids are living below the poverty line. the refugee crisis from the fall out of the war in syria is testing the community. >> there's 5 million people in need of humanitarian assistance. half children. >> more of my conversation in a minute on "talk to al jazeera" from the clinton summit. first, world bank president jim yong kim. you came back from australia where you were at the g20

finance and central bankers meeting. ebola was a topic. this would have been in your wheel house as head of the world bank. it is specifically in yours because you did a lot of work at infectious diseases and how to stop them in your days before being at the world bank. how do you see the crisis. depending on what you read it sound out of control and that can get bad, and something that we can get under control. >> going back to the g20, one of things that it does is try to prepare for the major shocks, the major down sized risks. the point i made was ebola looks like a major risk and shock for three countries. this could spread. more offer, pandemic diseases in general - we are not as prepared as we need to be to prevent those shocks. we released a study looking at the impact of ebola.

we found almost independent of the number of cases is the aversion behaviour, the closing of the ports. it's that behaviour that had the biggest economic impact before s.a.r.s., h1 n 1, that it wasn't the lives lost, but the behaviour that accompanied it that led to the economic shock. we need to, as a doctor, think about the people suffering. it's powerful if we can say, and not only is it the right thing to do. but if you care about the stability of the global economy, prepare better and we'll jump on this so it doesn't spread further. the recent data is if we do nothing, and don't speed up the response, 550 cases is responsible. we pulled in all the stots. what the u.s. d was fnts. they'll be focussed on

building -- what the u.s. did was they'll be focus on building hospital beds. >> we worry that our response is not right. are we getting better? we seem to have a similar conversation. you understand the nuances of pan dem ics. are we better with s.a.r.s. and similar threats. >> a lot of things are better. we have better penalty for fundraising and treatment. what is not better is a coordinated response. we have one, but they need to find a way to get everything in place. ebola is a low-moving violence. you have to have direct contact with bodily fluids. others - this will be much more quickly moving. i think right now we have to focus on the immediate response, but we have to have a

conversation, and a fund to disappears billions quickly, and have that paid back over time by the rich companies, instead of waiting for countries to make donations or prejudices. we are looking at different possibilities. the other piece that needs to be put in place is these countries do not have the systems detecting or spreading illnesses. we have to build that. we'd love it if we didn't have to do it. we may love not to do it from a monetary perspective. humanitarianly, and the perspective of protecting everyone in the world, we have to build the systems. it's good news for the poor, a lot of work, but we can do it. >> we have the systems in the united states. the spread of a disease can be contained if you have the right systems. this was an ebola case in the united states, there was no

outbreak or suspicions. but by using universal precautions, we literally assume that someone has ebola unless proven otherwise. we wear gloves, avoid contact with bodily fluids. the patient was treated, left the hospital. in a first-world hospital, these things can be managed and the great news is we can do that in poor villages like liberia, sierra leone and guinea. i don't think we had that aspiration early enough. we have it new. >> how do you sit with bankers and finance minister and convince them that the economies, if they were to suffer, wouldn't make a difference to the rest of the world. when we talk about the economic impact in ebola, what is the case for that. >> we looked at the numbers. the countries have lost 300 million. for

relatively small economies it's a huge burden. it's not the number of cases, it's the eversion cases around it that caused impact. if we don't get on top of this and it spreads to 15-20 countries, beyond the borders of africa, we are talking about billions of impact. that. >> let's switch to carbon pricing. a big announcement where 73 countries came together. more than 1,000 with an agreement to say we want to put a price on carbon. we get that carbon emissions are bad - most of us. some don't. what is the influence and the impact of deciding we'd like to put a price on it? >> governments and the private sector, for the most part, had the conversations separately. the first thing is that they decided to come together.

we put together a leadership council, driving forward for a tough, specific conversation, about what we could do by the parties. everyone has agreed we'll have an agreement on climate. just the agreement to come together and talk and the positive statement - china, russia, the european union. this is different to anything we had before. we never had a group like this. the reality is that carbon in the air has a price, has a price. it has a cost now. we haven't put a price on it, and we've been ignoring it. 1.2 million died last year as a result of pollution, and the pollution is related to the way we put carbon in the air. if you go to the small island states, they'll tell you putting carbon in the air has a clear cost. they'll lose the

country. the estimation is in africa, 40% of ar ibable land will be lost since 2030. costs are real, we haven't put a price on it. science is clear, economics is clear. we had just sort of inability to move forward. we have the first step and think soon. >> there'll be disagreement as to how you price carbon and the methodology. some thing it should be a tax, cap and trade. are you agnostic as to how you do it as long as you do it? >> we are agnostic about it. the point is we've never had the conversation in a way that people will be watching and holding each other accountable. this is a great challenge. we'll talk about this as time goes by. we have top 21 in lima and paris. countries agreed we'll have an agreement in paris.

if this is a part of it, the great exciting thing is if we have it, all of a sudden it will move market forces in a way that everyone will be thinking how can we grow and at the same time take carbon out of the air. we know it's possible. incentives are not there. a carbon price will put it in place. >> we have a lot to talk about, and we run out of time. we do it a couple of times a year. i hope we can do it again. >> thank you for having me on. >> i'm ali velshi at the clinton global initiative in new york. coming up, the c.e.o. of save the children says she's worried about america's decline in key areas.

>> these people have decided that today they will be arrested >> i know that i'm being surveilled >> people are not getting the care that they need >> this is a crime against humanity >> hands up! >> don't shoot! >> hands up! >> don't shoot! >> what do we want? justice! >> when do we want it? >> now! >> they are running towards base... >>...explosions going off we're not quite sure... >> fault lines al jazeera america's emmy winning, investigative, documentary, series... this is "talk to al jazeera" with me, ali velshi. this week we are at the clinton global initiative. before the break you heard from world bank president jim yong kim, now my interview with the president and c.e.o. of save the children, carolyn miles. one of the matters that we struggle with is recently the west bank said the united states is the third-most competitive country in the world. when we asked why the third most.

it has the struggles about the deficit and budget. income equality is growing at a rate similar to developed countries. that has to play a major role in children. >> it's making a huge impact on the lives of children. in the urks in the rural area, a place where save the children works, one in four kids are living under the poverty line. and nationally it's about one in five. it's a real issue. we do report every year, state of the world. this was our 15th year. the u.s. was in the top 10. it is now about - it was about four. and it is now 31st in the state of the world. bottom. >> it should be in the top.

i was surprised it was four. i would have thought it would be higher. what is your sense of prescription for this in the united states. we'll talk about the rest of the world. we shouldn't be so centric that it should be just about the united states, but we should be alarmed it's slipping down. >> growing ipp quality is the issue -- inequality is the issue. when it comes to voting, children don't vote. their issues are not at the top of the agenda, save the children is trying to change that. we are advocating for children to get adequate health care and mums. if you look at the report on state of the world's mothers, if you look at the maternal mortality rate, the statistics matched africa. some african, same statistics in afghanistan can americans in

poor communities in the united states. the gap between the vast majority of kids that have everything that they need, or majority of kids that have everything they need in the united states, and 20-25% who have little - that's what we have to attempt. >> we'll divide the rest of the conversation into things we don't hear and talk about. there are a few that are headliners. there's a humanitarian crisis in syria, before the i.s.i.l. situation developed. >> it is a crisis for children. we looked at - there's 3 million refugees outside of syria, 5 million in need of assistance. half are children under the age of 18. it's a huge crisis for kids. save the children has been working for 3.5 years on the issue inside syria and in the five surrounding countries where refugees are fleeing. a big issue that i've been worried about is education.

syria essentially had 100% school enrolment. they are the second-worst country in the world, and the kids, many of them, have lost out. they are not in school and haven't been for years. >> when we talk to the kids. they say i met with a 15-year-old at the youth center in jordan. this was a kid who had a great future. he was a high school student. he was a great student. top of his class. he had plans to go to university, a bright kid. he said what do you think of your future now, he said "i don't have a future. i don't see a future." a 15-year-old who tells you he has no future. about. >> the worry, of course, is when you look at the interviews with some i.s.i.l. recruits, they are kids with no hope. it's not a justification, it sounds like now they have

something to work toward. does it feed the problem if you have more and more kids that don't look like they have hope. >> that's right. and we have been spending a lot of time on the issue. whether it's inside a camp setting up schools, running kindergartens for kids in jordan or lebanon, doing a second shift, so the kids go to school from 2 o'clock in the afternoon to 6 o'clock, because they don't speak the local language - french or english - they speak arabian. teaching in their native language afterschool. it's important, and i'm worried about the issues of kid, you know, being enticed with other things, and syria will have to rebuild their country. let's talk about ebola - sorry roll from one bad matter to another. an issue of kids who will not

have parents, fear of kids going to school. what are you doing around ebola. >> we, again, have been working in the three countries of the outbreak, guinea, liberia and sierra leone. and have been doing a scaled-up programme. the issue on ebola, the fear is so great, and misinformation is great. working at the community level to get people educated on what are the symptoms, how it can be treated, what do you have to do. we are moving to an idea of community care. you have ebola treatment units which are good. we want those. it will not be enough to stop the transition of the disease. moving into the emergency ebola care units, which are in the communities, and the communities will have action and with protection, obviously, and will be able to be part of the units.

that is the next piece that we have to get up and going. liberian and sierra leone, we are working with their deposi governments to get up and run. there's a lot of your issues that are ongoing, not considered emergencies. you've been in places for a long time. notwithstanding the difficult topics, you are making headway. the world is making headway, great headway out of extreme poverty. there are goals that could be eradicated by 2030. where do you stand on those types of goals, and whether that's a good reflection of what world? >> when you look at the number one goal globally, it's to end the death of kids understand -- upped five. when you look at the number, it's stunning. there's 17,000 kids that live

today that would not have lived in 1990. that tells us, and gis all of us hope -- gives all of us hope that you can do this, this can be done. we look at that number and say the number is 6.3 million, but have gone from 12 plus, now we have to get to zero. what will it take for us to get to zero. that is something that we work on. a huge part of that is newborns. 2 million kids die in their first month of life. how do we make sure. that backs up to mothers. they have to get the care they need. they need a trained midwife or person with training to deliver the baby, so if there are complications they can help to save the baby. that's a big piece of what we are doing. that is one the biggest successors of the international community, reducing the kids

dying of things they don't have to die of. whether it's in childbirth or the first six months of rock newman. we know how to treat those things. it's something we work on in 30 countries, where the rates are high. to me, that's an exciting thing. >> to what do you attribute the goals? is it global prosperity in a rising tide. is it concerted efforts. what is it? >> it's the partnership of many organizations and entities coming toosket it's not just -- together. it's not just what save the children does or any one company, but people are coming together and saying "we can do this, we can get to the end of preventible deaths of kids and make sure every child survives." you get people around that inside a country, and the country

themselves to stand up. the minister of health has been a leader in ethiopia saying "my children don't have to die. we can do things. we need partners and help, but we can do it." it's about people coming together and working together and coming up with specific things. what are we going to do. how many health workers will we train so they can help mothers during pregiansy and childbirth. how much money do we need to put aside... >> still to come, a successful chain of coffee shops helped prepare carolyn miles to lead a global charity. find out next.

i'm ali velshi, you are watching "talk to al jazeera". we are back with the head of save the children carolyn miles. when you look at the 30 countries where you work. what are the persistent challenges of corruption or conflict. what are the things that really stand in your way of bringing that mortality rate oun?

>> it really is conflict actually. i mentioned the save the world's mothers, we looked over the years doing the report. the worst places to be a mum - child mortality, maternal mortality tie, women are not represented in government - there's a list of things. they are countries in conflict and have been in conflict in that period perpetually, or theest up and down conflict, and could be natural disaster, but it's usually these countries, unfortunately, are broken to natural disaster and conflict. you have a combination of both. that instability is key. later, on top of that, instable governments, unstable governments where corruption is an issue, governments are unstable in terms of turn over of the governments and violent overturns of government. >> is the greatest success

achieved when the concerted effort it from n.g.o.s and country. >> definitely a government inside a country. that is the key. if you do not have a government in the country behind what is happening and driving that. save the children and others, and the u.s. or the u.k. or other governments, canada, can put all the resources in and it will not change things unless the country makes it. >> are the most successful countries public, private led for government led. >> it's a come bination. you have to have the government at the table. private enterprise is bringing the scale, the ability to deliver scale. if you are a pharmaceutical company, you have the scale. you know how to do the distribution, the training, all of those things at a high level. what companies can bring is a lot to help with the scale.

if you don't have the government, and organizations at the community level, it is not going to happen. >> i ask you this, because you didn't start in the world of n.g.o.s and these organizations, you had a successful life in the private world. you had coffee shops. >> yes. >> tell me about it. >> i started with american express. when i lived in asia, we started a chain of coffee shops, which is still this, pacific coffee company. great coffee, by the way. that opportunity to start something from the beginning in an enpre preppurial way, before starbucks came to asia taught me a huge amount that sometimes you have to see an opportunity and go for it. there's a lot of parallels between what i did then and at save the children. and using innovation and seeing an opportunity.

>> you don't get bogged down and feel it's a world where people mo slowly and you -- more slowly and the can't just make a decision to open a shop. >> more on-sensis. more want -- consensus. more want to be engaged. once you get them involved, everyone is there, they believe in the mission. once you get that to happen, a lot of barriers fall down. >> great to have you spend time with us. i know the schedule is busy, so thank you for spending time. >> thank you very much. >> i lived that character >> a hollywood icon forest whitaker >> my interest in acting was always to continue to explore how it connected to other people >> making a difference >> what is occurring in other places, is affecting so many different ways... >> inspiring others >> we have to change those things, in order to make our whole live better >> every saturday, join us for exclusive... revealing... and surprising talks with the most interesting people of our time...

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