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>> consider this: the news of the day plus so much more. >> we begin with the growing controversy. >> answers to the questions no one else will ask. >> real perspective, consider this on al jazeera america ebola anxiety is spreading as congress demands action from the c.d.c. deep and dangerous divisions among iraqi groups helping us fight i.s.i.l. and a look at crucial battle ground races that could determine who controls the senate. i'm antonio mora, welcome to "consider this". those stories and more ahead. >> there is a lot of fear of ebola. >> the global response is not
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kept up with the rate of expansion. >> i understand the people are scared. what i want to emphasise is it's not an airborne disease, it's not easy to catch. we should not panic. >> i.s.i.l. is not the only group in iraq driving people from their homes. >> some iraqi factions report by the united states are accused of carrying out their own ethnic cleansing. >> there's a state by state control for the senate. >> north carolina is another race that will be close. >> how carolina closes, i don't think you'll see. want to tell you, since the
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event in dallas, we have gone back and are doing more training to those targeted personnel, or the health care personal in the emergency rooms and intensive care units, because those are the two places where if a patient comes to us, they'd be cared for. >> most americans that watched hollywood movies and tv shows and read books, we have always assumed that we were just showing hazmat suits. if there were some tragic event like this, that nurses and doctors would have the kind of equipment they needed in order to protect themselves. but then we heard this from that nurse. >> it was basically, you know, just like you would have in a snow suit or any hoodie it would zip up to about here, and then
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from there going to a hood, up around my face, like this, around my whole face, and on top of that was a mask in front of me that would go under my chin to here. from here to here was uncovered. >> how do you respond to that. to the fact that she was treating somebody who was - some of these nurses were treating someone who was highly infectious, and they had skin exposed. >> clearly every hospital has to key in on the c.d.c. recommendations, guidelines, have the appropriate equipment on hand, trarnal in advance on how to use it, especially the taking off which can be hazardous, and you do that with a buddy to watch and correct you. and we want our perm to be not only -- personnel to be not only compete ept, but comfortable in
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providing safe excellent care should such a patient arrive here. >> do you remain as confident as you have been, given all these mistakes and issues and these various transmissions that we will soon see the end of it, unless more cases come from africa. >> well, i had to take a deep breath. there were glitches, and they reminded us we had more work to do. i remain confident, if we have more importations there will not be widespread ebola in this country. it cannot happen, the public health infrastructure at the local, state and federal level is too good to let it happen. i'm confident about that. >> despite the mistakes we have seen. >> despite that, we are learning as we go along. we are better prepared today than a week ago. we'll be better prepared next week. >> we are adaptable, intelligent
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creatures, learning from each other's experiences. >> i know you have been a calming voice throughout the process, and it's good to hear your voice on the show trouble in our fight against i.s.i.l. deep divisions between the iraqi groups helping the u.s. battle the terrorists, and a major debate in a race that could decide control of the senate. an inside look at that and other battle ground conguests. harmeli aregawi is tracking the stop stories on the web. >> there's a heated showdown between a newspaper and a popular app. the publication says the self-described app is tracking its users. more coming up while you are watching, let us know what you think:
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agins i.s.i.l. kurdish forces and war planes are gaining ground in kobane, but in iraq i.s.i.l. gained more ground near baghdad. car bombs killed many on thursday. an al jazeera "fault lines" film, iraq divided shows the hatred showing a kurdish shoulder indoorsing ethnic cleansing. >> reporter: do you think families like this should return? . >> for more i'm joined from washington d.c. by faultline's host, josh rushing. powerful reporting in your film
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saw you on the front lines, including in one case, walking with kurdish fighters through a village with i.s.i.l.'s black flag flying and booby traps on the ground. it must have been frightening. what struck me is the scope of the violence, and the hatred that you found. does that surprise you at all. >> i reported from iraq, many times, i found the same attitudes towards one another. every time i've gone - i did - that there might be a unity government. let's say you have an open vote in the government. some will take a ballot saying i like the sunni politician, or the kurdish politician. >> that's discovered from the reality of the ground. it's existential. they'll vote for those in those groups. it's not hatred. it's beyond that.
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but the fact that where the sectarian groups come into contact, there's harsher builds there. the feels expressed by the peshawar fighters, they are seen as possible collaborators. for them it's a safety thing. they would say you can trust some of them, you don't know which ones. it's better not to have them there at all. joe biden came up with an idea of three autonomous dates in the shia'as, kurd and sunnis - you couldn't do it, mill lions of sunnis lived in the shi'a areas, and now you can. after years of ethnic cleansing and killing each other, and pushing each other out, the lines are clear. >> let's go down the line. the u.s. perspective - any fighters battling i.s.i.l., like
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the good guys and the conflict, the kurd, as you said the clip we saw, these are kurds supporting in effect as you said on ethnic spending. >> the u.s. sees as a crisis, others sees as crisis and opportunity. the kurds are included in that, in the peshawar. we went along the line and saw p.k.k. fighters. they are listed as a kurdish group. we saw soldiers shelling with artillery. we saw peshmerga. small groups of the iraqi army, and many that you think would never support. all the groups were on what you might call this side of the front line. the u.s. might be reported as the good guys. these are guys that the u.s. is not allied. if you take a group na the peshawar is allied with, they
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are pursuing their open ends here, as the u.s. gets involved, it's helping them achieve their own ends. it's gaining ground and territory. you have the city of kirkuk. a disputed city. it has a significant amount of oil. it stops flowing when i.s.i.l. invaded iraq. the kurds said they couldn't fight them, they were able to surge forward and take in the kirkuky oil fields. while the oil is not flowing, they changed the pipe lines so oil from kirkuk flows out of kurdish pipe lines, and today it was in the iraqi press that the kurdz are dumping out oil from kirkuk. it plays a big part in the goal of independence for kurdistan. as the u.s. gets involved, it needs to look at it as being far more complicated, every time the u.s. bombs, it's supporting
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another agenda. >> in fact, you have sunnis in your film who run from shia militias, shia militias fighting on our side, and the sunnis saying hey, we prefer i.s.i.l. to the sunni militias, and you went to a yazidi refugee camp where thousands are living in deft it use after i.s.i.l. forced -- deft it use where i.s.i.l. forced them to leave. and you spoke to a bunch of people, including a 63-year-old father, who seemed as afraid of former neighbours as the terrorists.
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. >> so many reports of massacres of yazidi, women enslaved by the thousands. you tell a heart-breaking story of parents losing their children as they fled i.s.i.l. i get the sense from you that this hatred - we heard the yazidi man saying he couldn't live with arrows, shias, or with any of them. in the end, do you think that we are going to see a split upstate as you mentioned like joe biden kurdistan, a sunni land and a shia lapped. >> i know a lot of people in iraq would support that idea. it seemed to me the only people i spoke to that didn't support the idea were u.s. politicians, the executive brans has a one iraq -- branch has a one iraq policy. all the other minority groups
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from the kurds, the yazidi, the christians the sunnis supported the idea of breaking it up and had a semiautonomous state. the saddest part about the yazidi. you might remember the mt sinjar where they fled, that's wherest justified their intervention. the yazidi were aware they were used in the international press and the u.s. a lot of yuping yazidi me -- young yazidi men were used as translators, the military trusted them more than muslims. they speak english. when i went to the camps they said obama said the u.s. is coming to save us, when are they coming, what are they doing? as an american i was left with a choice of leaving them with false hope or no hope. there's 240,000 yazidi in the refugee camp. you know the u.s. is not locking
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to do a mass migration. they are stuck. that's the saddest part. they can't go home, but for these guys there's no next. >> it's a frightening and, you know, sad situation and it's powerfully portrayed in iraq, dividing the fight against i.s.i.l., debuting saturday 7:00p.m. eastern. great to have you with us, josh. >> thank you control over the senate will depend on a view key races, and one had an important night thursday. a key debate in the iowa senate race was held between republican joanie ernst and ted bailey. things were tense quickly. >> you stated a few years back that you would not change a thing about obama care, today you are saying yes, we do need to make changes to the bill.
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so either you didn't understand what was in the bill or you were misleading iowa was. i don't know which is worse. >> it's not true. the reality is when you pass a change in how health care is delivered to millions of americans, there are bound to be things you have to deal with along the way. >> aj joins us from soiux city iowa and has been following in for a series "midterms", bringing access to bellwether races, two for the senate and two for the house. it airs sunday, 9:00pm eastern. some analysts say as iowa goes so goes the senate. ernst was conservative. brailly individual. >> it was as you described it. at the time they took the gloves
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off. i haven't seep them this charged at one another. might have had something to do with the fact that they were sitting around a table or it's the fact that it's the last time they get to face each other. they had points they wanted to have drip home, and even some scores they may have wanted to settle before taking their leave. >> this has really been a tremendously negative race all along, and a lot of money has poured into the race. advertising has been a big part of what is going on. >> sure, yes, you can't watch television ear in iowa. if you are in a bar. every time you look up, you'll see joanie ernst and bruce brailly. they are hit by each other and parties. by outside money. the coke brothers have been in play. tom stier has been in play. a lot of mummy has been spent
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trying to get iowans to believe certain things about the candidate. not always totally correct much one of the crate things about our series is you'll see a different perspective on both individuals. >> ernst leading by 4% let's switch to north carolina. you are following that race. we have kay hagan. she is bat limbing the speaker. north carolina house. there it's a close race so far polls showing that they are about tied. republicans are going to dump a lot of money in there, very soon. the reality is money - it's a big deal in north carolina. democrats have outspent republicans in general. >> yes, well, there's a different dynamic in north carolina.
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because when thom tillis became speaker of the house, and republicans took over. they passed scoping changes in north carolina, that were very different from the more moderate imaging that north carolina views itself in the south. there's a lot of anger amongst democrats about some of the things that happened and it's one of the few states where democrats are energized to defend the seats. it's a closer race in the last week. kay hague ep was up 4- -- hague ep was up 4-5 points, it's showed to be tide or within a point or two. >> she jumped into power in the first election and president obama's approval ratings plummeting to their lows. how big of a deal as we have gone through all the four races. the president, aprimary school
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rating. >> in north carolina, it's one of the main things talked about. he reminds naturalians, how many percentage of times kay hagan voted with president obama. kay hagan responds this is what you did this rowy and washington d.c. joanie ernst referenced the obama administration, and bruce, and the collective failures. this is a goal of republicans to tie candidates to an unpopular president. >> they were falling to congressional races in iowa and colorado. how important, aside from the president, are you seeing national issues playing. how big is foreign policy, the national economy. obama care. politics are local.
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where do you see the balance this year. >> these are seats that are held by republicans, retiring congressman in iowa, and mike kaufman the incumbent in colorado. these are seats that could be picked up in a year. it's because the seats are incredibly purple swing seats, and some of the few that haven't been gerrymandered and redistributed to lean to one party or the other, in this case they are more each. you are seeing interesting dynamics, the issues playing out here are in some ways different than in some races where one party has more influence over the other. particularly in colorado, it's interesting to watch because mike kaufman is someone who moderated his positions on immigration, abortion.
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a lot are looking to see if he can win against a tough challenger, what that will mean for republicans going forward, can you modify your conditions as issues and demographic the states change. >> so many issues and up for grabs. the first episode of "midterms" 9:00pm on saturday. good to see you. >> thank you for having me time to see what is trending on the web. let's go to harmeli aregawi. >> "the guardian" ran a peace saying an app that claims to be anonymous is tracking its users. whisper doesn't collect email addresses or email names, it's a confessional-. anonymity is the core of the appeal. it attracted millions of users,
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and is popular among milt personnel that share messages like this one:. >> on thursday, "the guardian" published an article claiming that while exploring a partnership with whisper, they learnt the company tracked users, even those that opted out of the geotracking service. the company shared the information with the federal government and third party apps. the editor-in-chief fought back with a point by point rebuttal saying: li following the piece, a spokesperson to buzzfeed said it was halting its work with the
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app saying: the guardian claims that once whisper found out about their story, the company rewrote the privacy policy. share your thoughts with us on twitter. >> i never got the face nation with whisper. >> me neither but a lot use it. >> many religions are facing extinction in the middle east. how extremism is destroying community that have existed for thousands of years. the look at the holy wars in the schools at home, a fight over church and state and are you among the richest half of the globe's population. why it takes a few thousand to make you wealthier than the rest of the world.
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the first time most of us heard of the yazidi in august, when u.s. air power bombed i.s.i.l. fighters and rescued thousands on mt sinjar, the terrorist would try to ex-tipping wish the minority. they are but one of many small relageons, the mann day jans in iraq, and others in iran facing extinction. i spoke with gerard russell, a senior research spokesperson from the new america foundation. he was a diplomat for the u.k. foreign service and the occasions for 15 years, and spent 4.5 years travelling to write this book. good of you to join us. fascinating to see the richness
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of the cultures and the tremendous variety of the beliefs. and they survived for centuries as minorities with little political power and economic power. many living in isolation. you write about how many of these predated islam, and until now, muslim rule was tolerant, allowing them to flourish. >> thank you. it's been a wonderful journey through, as you say, many countries, encountering these religions, and finding out how many religions believed in reincarnation or the ara mayic language, the coptic language. the survivals appearing, if one looks for them, and such a remarkable survival, miraculous well. >> when did the muslim rulers go
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from being tolerant. >> i suppose i would split it into four periods - an early period in the early centuries, when the muslim cal each and rulers tended to want everyone to take part in the building of the empire, and they brought in payingans and others to be brought into the building in baghdad. the date was chosen in part by a jewish pathologier. there was a participation by people of call cultures. they have many centuries of decline, whether by cause or effect. others were marginalized. a period upped the ottawans empire was brutal. in the modern era, this is a thing that was easy to forget. many countries in the middle east went through a great period of enfranchisement. treating people as equal citizens in one nation.
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this was a strong theme in egypt and the middle east. it's that that in the last 40 years, as people define themselves by religion, and less by nation, that this has declined. >> as you travelled through the middle east, researching the book, one meeting you describe was in baghdad with a mandian high priest, and you discussed his religion, and he asked you for help gaping asylum to britain. that's something, the lure of the west, tolerance in the west and greater economic opportunity, all that is threatening religions with ex-tippings too. >> -- extinction too. >> it is. when i went back to see the yazidi, a large number, they massed around me. they were excited and saying "we want to go to the west and leave", it's finished here.
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proceeding the yazidi were the mann dayans. 90% left iraq since 2003. >> a time question - what will the consequences be, as you see it, for the region, if the diversity exists. >> it's a loss for the muslims of the middle east. they are tolerate people, but there's an infection in the middle east of extremist groups. and extremist mentalities, and a certain kind of extreme shovenism that can express itself. it's a pity. the middle east was at its best when it was divers. when leaders drew on the talents of everyone no matter what they believe. >> a lot of important points. it's not just the small religions, i.s.i.l. killed many muslims and christians, it's a
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tragedy for the region across the board. it's brought to life in "heirs to forgotten kingdoms", good to have you with us, best of luck with the book. >> coming up, we'll go from disappearing religions, from growing battles from creationism to school prayer. >> would you believe having $36 million would put you among the wealthiest half of people in the world. that's next in the data dive.
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today's data dive finds most of you may be among the wealthier people in the world, if you have $3650 in net wath after debts are -- wealth after debts are subtracted, you are amapping the rich -- among the rich part of the population. there has been indications how poor people are, only a quarter have $10,000 or more in net wealth. you'll need $77,000 to crack 10%. and you don't need to be a millionaire. $7998. the world is richer than it has been. global wealth reaches a record
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$223 trillion after a single increase. who nose what happens after -- knows what happens after the worldwide stock market. two-thirds of the wealth is in europe. you need a net worth exceeding $50 million to be a member, and 63,000 americans qualify. australia has the richest adults. media net words is a quarter of a million, ahead of second-placed belgium. the u.s. 10th at $53,000. coming up, from creationism and school prayers. the battle over religion's place in our schools. i'm john seigenthaler in new york. after "consider this," president obama says he might hold ebolasar to head the disease. why gas prices are falling to lowest levels in years.
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the separation of church and state has been a device ists issue since america's infancy. the role of religion in schools fuelled that debate. in 1962 the supreme court ruled schools were not allowed school stop soared prayers. >> "edge of 18" follows one student as he tries to convince his principle that he should be able to give a religious speech at graduation. >> every graduation speech is the same. the smart people throw in quotes, and try to make humerous jokes, it's competitive. what the speech will do is add a different perspective to graduation, which is what it should be about. for me personally, what i would want to talk about is how we are basically not living up to our participation. >> and, yes, i would talk about jesus and my religion, he has
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impacted me the most. >> that silence was probably not the reception he hoped for. the rest of that exchange when the new episode of "edge of 18" airs on friday, and a reunion special with the cast follows at 10. : 00 for more on the issue of religion in public schools, i spoke earlier with a constitutional law professors, who teaches religion in schools. the issue is battled, and cases come up, and senator terry macauliff led a veto. the student we showed from "edge of 18" leads bible study in school, and the two more extreme sides on the issue are far apart on what should be allowed in school. you say the rules are more
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straightforward than most people believe. the rules are more straightforward. they don't resolve every dispute, but they resolve most of them. the school cannot sponsor religion in the school. it can teach about religion, but it can't tell you what is true or lead worship or encouraged prayer. student speech has to be treated like student speech on any other subject. when your student leads a bible study for a group of students, nas legal and protected by an act of congress. >> the first amendment, the words say congress should make no law respecting the establishment of religion or prohibiting free exercise. how not to establish religion, but allow its free exercise. >> courts are divided on whether
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saying the pledge of allegiance, saying the words under god is an establishment of religion. the courts are not very divided. that is what lawyers call a hard case. under guidance is religious, asking children to affirm that the nation is under god, is like an acclimation of faith. it offends few people, but the courts will inevitably uphold it. with a short lived exception, that's what they have done. >> with an article in slaight, it shows how charter schools teach creativism, and a work back says in the beginning god created the earth. that's a public school. >> they are about bit different to public schools, technically they are public schools s. >> what do you think about the
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case? >> that's hard to explain what is wrong with it. the supreme court said public schools cannot keech creationism -- teach creation itch. i would thing that applies to public schools. we give public money to some private schools that teach religion, that's probably different to teaching religion in the science staff. >> religious studies courses are okay. as long as they don't say one religion is the true religion. how widespread is prayer in whatever form in schools these days? >> school sponsored prayer is rare. there was a lot of resistance to the supreme court. i am sure there's not complete compliance now. student prayer groupsuably in an empty --uably in an empty
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classroom or after school is common. >> is there variance. >> yes, there's a lot of varps. education is local iced in the united states. there has been a lot of litigation other countries push the ychl. looking to establish it to get prayers in events, not just attended by volunteers, tentered by opportunity. huge difference between the north and mid west. >> it's a mass nating issue some places are pushing the envelope. >> you can catch the final episode of "edge of 18" friday
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at 9:00pm eastern, followed by the reunion show at 10:00 pm. that's all for now. the conversation continues on the website aljazeera.com/considerthis and we are on facebook and twitter @ajconsiderth @ajconsiderthis, and you can tweet me @amoratv. see you again next time hi, i'm john seigenthaler, this is al jazeera america, and coming up... >> the president tries to reassure the public about the spread of ebola. >> if we take the steps yes need to. this will be contained. >> less pain at the pump, gas prices drop below $3 in some areas. >> and america's top cop says a feature of new smart phones is making it harder to solve
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