and hard hitting. >> people are dying because of this policy... >> there's no status quo, just the bottom line. >> but what is the administration doing behind the scenes? >> real perspective, consider this on al jazeera america >> hi everyone, i'm john siegenthaler in new york. this is al jazeera america. ebola quarantines. new guidelines from the cdc and why washington says some states are going too far.pulitzer prize winners, nicholas christophe and michelle wu don. the violent attacks that tore apart the amish community. new allegations of sexual abuse.

and does this sound familiar? the lawsuit claiming a rock 'n' roll masterpiece was stolen. we begin with the effort to contain the ebola virus both in the u.s. and overseas. the cdc updated its guidelines today on how to monitor workers returning from west africa. those in highest risk, will have to stay in voluntary home quarantine. troops coming back to the u.s. from west africa will also be under mandatory isolation. the pentagon says soldiers will be held for 21 days in tilt. and we have heard that the boy suspected of having ebola has tested negative. and the nurse went home today, her crais stirred debate whether medical workers returning home

from africa should be held in mandatory quarantines. jonathan betz has the story. jonathan. >> w.h.o. h again urged for more doctors and nurses, but u.s. is struggling with what to do with them when they come back. as the toll climbs in wrearveg t africa and more u.s. help arrives. >> american people are committed to this. >> reporter: those who have already served are facing confusion and quarantines when they return. nurse kaci hickox was allowed to return home but forced into quarantine. she was isolated in a tent without a flushing toilet even though she tested negative for ebola twice. >> what happened with nurse hickox was unacceptable unfair to her and disrespectful to a hero. >> new york new jersey and illinois now require mandatory quarantines for anyone returning

from west africa, who has been around ebola parents. they must stay at home even if they're not sick. that's far beyond what's happening and even what the cdc recommends. >> these kind of policy decisions should be driven by science. >> the cdc revealed new guidelines that largely require people returning from the hot zone to monitor themselves. it urges those at the highest risk to stay home but that's only voluntary. >> i don't think someone should be legally bound to be quarantined when there's little to no risk of transmission. >> although authorities say that's not enough, especially with scares in new york and dallas. whether it's necessary or legal. >> no one likes to be in the hospital, we're not going to take the risk of the public health in new jersey. >> the nurse said it violated her rights and she might file a

federal lawsuit. this policy might discourage people from going to wearve wesa if they stix wit stick with thi. >> thank you, areva washington joins us. >> hi john. states have a lot of control in terms of isolating people and maintaining quarnts when they believe public health is at stake. they have to balance freedoms and one's privacy rights against the rights of the public to not be subjected to a contagious disease like ebola. >> is there any precedent for this? >> there's a lot of case law but a lot of this is old, that's why this is causing some shorn suchy issues.

there was a case of a woman who was placed under a 14 day quarantine and the courts in that case upheld the quarantine. there is some case law but not very cumpt. whecurrent. we haven't had a case like ebola in the last decade or so. so a lot of the case law is old. >> ms. hickox's lawyer suggested her constitutional rights were violated. is that what she would argue in court, is that right? >> she's making a claim her due process rights under the 14th amendment were violated by the state being overbroad in his quarantine. she tested negative for ebola on two occasions and was asymptomatic. this quarantine is overbroad and it is targeting her not because they have symptoms or the disease but simply where they travel. they say that's a violation of the constitution and although

states have control over issuing quarissuingquarantines, the ques it specific or is it arbitrary? >> the case, she might file it but she might not. >> this is a perfect test case. the court is going to weigh the concerns here. individuals' rights to privacy, individuals' riertindividuals' , the state's rights to keep all of its citizens free from contagious diseases. they're going to have to look at ebola is deadly we know that. we know there is a 21 day period of incubation. so there's lots of issues that the courts are going to have to look at. but i can't help but be you know concerned about this case because the cdc the white house and a lot of medical experts said that this quarantine is overreaching. >> so does it matter that the cdc sort of you know had a different opinion of what the

governors were doing? >> i think the cdc's opinion in this case the guidelines will play significantly into a determination if it reaches the courts butter keep in mind the cdc only can issue guidelines not mandates that the states must follow. >> all right areva martin, as usual, thanks. >> thanks john . >> 13 migrants were in a small raft when it turned over, trying to make its way from cuba. more than 3700 have tried to make it to the u.s. from cuba by sea, this year. prosecutors demanding the death penalty for the captain of that ferry that sank earlier this year, more than 300 people died in april when the ferry capsized from seoul to resort island. most of those who died were students from a single high school. prosecutors say the captain was

negligent and protected himself before protecting the passengers. dozens of men and women who escaped boko haram are speaking out. they said they were raped, forced into marriage and sent to fight for the group. human rights watch have statements from some of the women kidnapped from the high school in chibok. haru matassa. >> rebecca is supposed to be protecting her children, there were four of them, but one of her children were abducted by boko haram in april. this is what she will say. >> be safe sarah, god will help you if you are alive but if you are dead there is only one thing i can do is pray that you are at

peace. >> in chibok in northwest nigeria were kidnapped by boko haram. some of those who have managed to escape have disturbing stories to tell. >> reporter: dealing with the physical and psychological abuse isn't easy. >> when they hear a sound just a sound, a gun or a sound of something being hit, they get freeze. so -- and that you can feel, if somebody can get freeze by hearing the sound of something else, it shows the level of the traumatic situation they pass through. >> reporter: human rights workers say the nigerian government isn't doing enough to

protect people. nigerian officials deny this. >> it is an attempt at rescue that the numerous services being recorded by the armed forces have occurred. and you can see that many of the insurninsurgent forces are, the nigerian government will not forget its citizens in need. >> she feels it's safer here in abuja but her family is not complete. >> she likes to play, she likes to -- >> 13-year-old lydia misses her big sister and like hundreds of families across noornlg they'ree waiting for her to come home. >> we are learning more about a shooting at the washington state school last friday.

the shooter invited the victims via text message. all five were sitting together when they were shot, giia soriao died today. the the head of canada's national police force says the man who opened fire in parliament last week posted a video before the attack. in the video the man discusses foreign policy and his beliefs. it is evident the attack was driven by political motives. the unofficial 2016 presidential race is getting underway and jeb bush could be the third member of his family that is running for the white house. a potential run, it is likely

that the family is behind him. jeb bush is a two term governor of florida. he stayed out of the contest despite many calls by conservatives for him to run. from the other side of the aisle, hillary clinton has clarified her comments on job creation. at a campaign meeting in massachusetts she implied conservatives don't create jobs. she said so-called trickle down economics has failed. our economy grows when businesses and entrepreneurs create good paying jobs here in america. not when we hand out tax breaks for corporations that outsource jobs or stash their profits overseas. president obama has kept a low profile in the run up to next tuesday's mid term elections. but he is hitting the campaign trail tomorrow with a rare appearance in wisconsin. he'll be there to support mary burke in a very close race for governor. for many wisconsin voters, jobs

and the economy are the top priority. diane eastabrook reports. >> reporter: on a chilly milwaukee morning, the line for a job fair wraps around this banquet hall. >> what kind of job are you look for? >> mostly anything in industrial. >> how is the job market in wisconsin? >> terrible. >> i've been unemployed for about six years. >> 60-year-old joins the back of the line. two,000 other job seekers file in. >> if you have a vip pass you go through these doors. >> hi i'm cynthia. >> press the flesh and hopefully try oland one of the 1600 jobs employers are trying to fill. >> i've got a good resume and hopefully that will get me a job and something decent. >> reporter: davis has been out of work for two years, picked up jobs here and there and is desperate for a full time

gig. >> i ran out of my unemployment and i was out on the street and i had nowhere to go. >> reporter: this job fair reflects the deep divide between two wisconsin candidates for governor. scott walker a republican says the state is hiring again. but mary burke says there's far too many people out of work. >> 160,000 lost jobs between 2008 and 2010, about 120,000 jobs have been added back but that's only about half of what walker promised when elected. his opponent burke argues the governor's tax cuts and incentives to businesses aren't working. >> we have people that are young and they know the c and c training -- >> but factory owner mike mawitz says they are, he employs 40

workers now. mowitz says the tax incentives helped him train workers at a technical college. he says the incentives in place could help him. >> there is cooperation from our government officials to get out into businesses, learn what's out here, for families, what life-sustaining type of jobs. >> back at the job fair sint davis tries to stay upbeat, she admits it's hard not to get discouraged, plus the wages some firms are offering. >> who can live on $10 an hour? >> davis says that both candidates keep promising to add jobs but she's still not sure which one can actually make that a reality. diane eastabrook al jazeera, milwaukee. >> voters in washington state will have to decide between two

opposing gun initiatives on the ballot next week. allen schauffler has a preview of a report he's working on for tomorrow. >> clearly many , a lot of peope guns and gun control on their minds. voters in this state are the only ones being asked to vote on statewide ballot measures concerning gun rights and gun control. there are two initiatives that will be voted on, one would dramaticalldramatically gift ofe private sale of guns even the loan of guns. the other would restrict background checks to be those required by the government. much more tomorrow. >> that's coming up tomorrow night in our hour-long special election report, america votes 2014 at 8:00 eastern and again at 11:00 eastern. south africans want to put

olympic runner post offic oscars on trial again. he admitted he shot reeva steenkamp, he said it was an accident. man arrested after an incident in leeds. the prime minister's security arrangements are under review. the cash strapped poaflts pl service might have found a new source of money. based on the postal service's relationship with amazon which completes postal service workers

pick up and deliver dproaches g. >> fresh unit in san francisco, to make sure that grocery deliveries are even possible and so far dropoffs have taken place between 3:00 a.m. and 7:00 a.m. that's when postal trucks are not being used to, well, deliver mail. the posts will expand deliveries with other originators now. the potential revenue for this venture would be about $10 million and you have to think about the entire usps system and how much that is. $10 million isn't really that much. it's not going to help the postl service's bottom line. but even walmart is

experimenting with grocery delivery. if it's successful the usps will expand this beyond san francisco. it's not clear where they will try grocery delivery but this will be a two year experiment and it may really change how the postal service does business. >> lava flow in hawaii plus: >> nicnicholas kristof talks abt the unrest in ferguson, missouri.

>> residents of the hawaiian villain pahoa, lava is creeping dangerously close to their homes, moving at 10 to 15 miles per hour, closing down main roads in the area. officials are continuing to monitor the situation, and our

meteorologist kevin corriveau has the lathest. >> john, kilauea has been active for the last 30 years. here is the town that we're really concerned about. what is happening here is one of these vents is actually the problem. it has been active since about june. that is the vent right there. you can see the south side of the island has had a lot of lava flow over the last 30 years but this particular vent is making the lava move more towards the west. with this town we are about three to five days away from actually seeing a lot of the lava moving into the town. take a look at the video that came in earlier. this is lava flow here. if we lose this town then people in the area will have to go about 100 miles for medical services for any kind of groceries in the area. so this is a critical area, a critical town for this part of

hawaii. so we're going to be watching this very carefully. we do not expect the flow to change any time soon but as you can see we're talking about a community of 1500 to 2,000 people in this particular region. john. >> kevin thank you very much. scientists have uncovered a mark on the ocean made by the bp oil spill. the ring is about the size of rhode island. the researchers that conducted that study say as many as 10 million gallons of oil has coagulated on the shore of the gulf of mexico. china has typically not been thought of as one of the world's best wine producers but a remote region has been turning out some wine catching the attention of connoisseurs. rob mcbride reports from western china.

>> this is a crop of administer low grapes. merlot grapes. ming sha is gaining reiteration for its wine. emma gao has brought some of the expertise that she has developed in france back home. >> it's surprising that china can make drinkable wine. >> not enough of it is being produced so very little reaches foreign markets. the perception of chinese wine, mass produced, which is what they say in the trade just a little bit uggh.

ming sha is out to change that. at a competition in beijing wine experts gather to sample its offerings. a region some say could become china's napa valley. >> from ming sha the strategy in the very beginning is of the boutique wineries. they have their own vineyard so they grow their own grapes and this help a lot to improve or put a lot of focus on the quality instead of the quantity. >> back at silver heights a new cellar is ready for this winery's expansion but wine makers are conscious of maintaining quality in a country with a rapidly developing appreciation of good wine. >> we need to make good wine for influence our local consumer, not only bad wine. >> throughout this remote province, government initiatives and collaborations with foreign wine makers are expanding production.

>> driving around in the amount of vineyards that are going to be planted, they're talking some really big vineyards. one vineyard is the size of a region. >> growing domestic demand though will mean all that extra production will be eagerly schooled here helping to ensure ming sha is china's closely cloy guided secret. robert mcbride, ming sha chinese. >> a look at the amish community like you've never seen it before and the crimes committed.

this is al jazeera america, i'm john siegenthaler. coming up, the cdc issues new guidelines with how states should handle travelers from ebola-infected countries. it is not as strict as three states now. plus my conversation with put

pulitzer prize winning author nicholas kristof and his wife. and did they rip off stairway to heaven? the cdc updated its guidelines today on how to monitor health care workers coming back from africa. people at the highest risk of contracting ebola after the u.s. will have to stay in voluntary quarantine. libby casey in washington. >> john, guidelines of how people should be treated they range from high risk to no risk. high risk people are those who have had direct contact with the bodily fluids of someone with ebola. they are supposed to restrict their travel and restrict the public activities. they are people deemed to have some risk and that's the

majorities of health care workers going over to west africa. they were people who were working and wearing protective gear. restricted on an individual or case-by-case basis. and low risk people, contact with people with ebola but not direct physical contact. no restrictions on their public activities. now these cdc are truly just that, guidelines. they don't have enforcement activities, the state can still do what they want to in terms of establishing quarnen teens. this is significant the cdc quarn teens don't go as far as the states of new york and new jersey have gone. in new jersey the nurse who came back from sierra leone and was put into quarantine is planning a lawsuit saying that her civil liberties and constitutional rights were violated. the governor of new jersey chris christ is defending her treatment saying it was done for

the public health of the people of new jersey. but governor quomo says these health care worker workers comik from wearveg can stay in quarantine in their -- west africa can stay in quarantine in their home and get paid for it. jorn kently gives a tour of kobani. i.s.i.l. has been trying to capture that syrian city from kurds for 40 days. showing a heat seeking missile taking down an iraqi helicopter. this is the strongest evidence yet that syria has surface to air missiles. despite that coalition carried out fresh air strikes monday in syria and iraq. four air strikes focused on

kobani. bernard smith has more. >> i.s.i.l. forcers have again tried to take over the border crossing between syria and turkey. that follows one of the heaviest nights of fighting there has been so far on sunday night into monday again concentrated on that border. i.s.i.l. forces want control of the border because they believe that if reenforcements come from the kurds in kobani those reenforcements whether they be iraqi peshmerga or allied to the free syrian army which is why i.s.i.l. wants it. the black smoke that you can see rising behind me probably from tires both sides light fires, set tires on fire to create a smoke screen as they move around the streets. air strikes again on sunday night helped the kurdish fighters keep control of the border crossing. they're essential and they were almost too late the kurds are

telling us an indication of how much they rierl on those air strikes put an indication of -- they rely on those air strikes but an indication of how much they need them. the air flights have to fly so far before they reach this field of operation, and then fly back. large gaps when the air above kobani is empty and this allows the i.s.i.l. forces to make their move. >> that's bernard smith reporting. nicholas kristof and his wife cheryl wu don are both authors. i spoke to them about the book and we'll bring you part of that conversation later this week but first we talked about issues that many people are talking about this week including the ebola crisis. i started by asking them what

they think about the suggestions by some that a travel ban is necessary. >> i don't think that travel bans are actually going to help us attack the problem at the source because if you have all the experts here in the u.s. and they're either going to be more hesitant to go there because it's so hard to get back and the travel ban itself will make it very difficult for them to get there and back, we can't stop it at the source. that's the place you really need to stop it. once it gets to the u.s. in a real way that's going to be trouble. >> is there a need for hysteria? >> i think this is not our finest hour. there has been -- obviously if you think of comparative risks, ebola for americans, i think ebola is less of a concern in america than many people think, and much more of a concern worldwide. and you know there is not going to be an epidemic of ebola in the u.s. if nigeria can handle it the

u.s. hearin health care system . if there's going to be spread it will spret to other questions, to niger, to congo, in some point to india. >> it makes this scare, what happens on the other side of the world does affect us and can really affect us, so we actually should be more alert and also we should realize that we should help something -- we should help someone or you know, especially when it's going to affect so many people, halfway around the world that we really should care about those people. because what happens there because we are a globalized world can affect us here. >> also in the news is i.s.i.l. you wrote in a recent column and you said the greatest threat to extremists is a girl with a book. what's so scary about educated women to these extremist groups? >> i think there are a couple of

things going on. we have pretty good evidence from afghanistan is where a mom was more educated that her sons did not join the taliban. that was the greatest predictor about support of the taliban. and more broadly where women are brought out, where they're educated and brought out of the margins then those societies over time become more moderate. and finally you have a birth cohort impact that educated women have fewer children. if you educate a man he'll have fewer kids, but it's quite marginal. if you educate a woman she has fewer kids, what effects is this youth bulge, 15 to 24. and how do you reduce that? in part you educate your girls. >> you are probably -- were you at home watching him on bill maher during that program? >> no actually i was in another town. i didn't get to see it. i heard a lot about it. >> you got to hear about it?

>> yes i heard a lot. >> you were in the middle of a brawl over islam in america or islam around the world and the characterization ocategorizatio. what did you think of that conversation? >> i take the side of my husband we have to be careful about jumping to conclusions, because people have knee jerk reactions, just what's happening with ebola. we have to take a deep breath and say wait, let's analyze what's going on here. you can't say every single person who is a muslim therefore has a potential to be evil. >> but maher said something out loud that plenty of people are saying, aren't saying in public but saying in the privacy of their own home so how do you fight that? >> i think when -- i think we in the media can play a certain role.

i mean we certainly highlight the degree to which people say they're acting on their muslim faith by doing some really nasty things. i think we need to acknowledge the degree to which those who are standing up to the funnellists are act -- fundamentalists are acting on their faith np in nigeria you have boko haram committing atrocities in the name of islam. but those who are standing up to boko haram are likewise standing up to the islam. people who are in the different part of the world or a different complexion than we do, we would not have said that the actions of serbians in srebrenica reflects on christianity, those were mass atrocities there. we have to be really careful of judging a faith of 1.6 billion

people because of particular actions here. >> the press has some role, it can play a more positive role by writing stories about people who are heroes, you know, among the muslim culture who are very respected and have done wonderfully compassionate things. but we tend to get more of the oh my gosh, look what this recent i.s.i.l. fighter did. >> we really don't hear condemnation from muslims enough about the horrors that are going on with i.s.i.l. or with 9/11. i mean how do you respond to that? >> i mean i think there is an element of truth to that. i think in pakistan for example there should be many more people speaking out about blasphemy laws for example. but i also think it's a little bit weird to demand that people denounce something that they feel they have no commonality with. i don't feel the need to again denounce serbians in srebrenica

who commit atrocities because i don't think they stand for my faith. i think the world has trouble with fundamentalism now, but that shouldn't tar a fate of 1.6 billion people. >> do you think that the united states has a chance of winning against i.s.i.l. in syria? >> i think ground troops would be a mistake, they would create a backlash, they would short sht the steps that are needed to bring sunni tribes to bare against i.s.i.l. >> why do you think this is so appealing to so many young people who want to join the caliphate? >> i think there's a yearning for purpose and meaning in life. >> to watch beheadings on tv and then they run off to syria. >> i think a lot of them are disaffected here in u.s. and

canada and they don't feel there is any purpose here for them to serve something that is a larger cause. i do think that we do need to become a more compassionate society here. >> nick, you wrote a series of columns after the shooting of michael brown in ferguson, missouri. you said the greatest problem is not with flat-out racists but people who quietly accept injustice around them. what sort of message were you trying to send there? >> that i think that we're often oblivious to inequality when it doesn't happen to us or to injustice when it doesn't happen to us. and i think that for whites in america, the law enforcement and justice system kind of works. i think for african american men i think it pretty much doesn't. and the fact that surveys for example show that blacks and whites use drugs at approximately the same rates and yet arrest rates are three times as high for african americans,

this suggests we have a broader problem and those arrests lead to creation incarceration which is devastating for family and i think we need to try to understand kind of the depths of this. inequality is one step towards decorating it. >> racial inequality, it's become an issue that african americans -- when the african americans talk about how white people don't understand. they don't understand when you're in the car. you don't understand being stopped. so how do you make white america, how do you make people who are not african american understand? >> i think people have in part to break the taboo. i think it is something they speak to a great deal, it's awkward among white people to talk about. when you look at surveys how many white people have friends,

there is clearly progress over time. you know acknowledge when i was born, the hospital was divided. between a ward for black babies and a ward for white babies. and there's no doubt that there is progress. but it is painstakingly slow. and in the meantime a lot of injustice. there thank you for sharing your time. >> good to be with you. >> good to see you. and make sure you tune in friday for the rest of our interview with nicholas kristof and cheryl wudon. people are once again working in the world trade center. workers from the port authority began moving into their office at four world trade today, from construction to occupancy, workers from conde nast will be moving in next month.

sam mullet led a advertise dent amish sect in ohio, known as the bergholtz barbers, cutting off beards and hair in violent attacks. a shocking crime in what many consider a peace loving communities. adam may journeyed to the heart of mullet's isolated community. there he found accusations not only of physical abuse but of sexual misconduct. >> here is where sam mullet ruled the roost. according to his critics, mullet's 20sed take on the amish religion played out in his bedroom. >> the government made allegations that mullet was living with other women in the community. so that those are some of the -- >> polyannaish relationships? >> well it was uncertain. one woman testified at trial how

bishop mullet wanted to give her marital counseling related to sexual issues. other women weren't coming forward to testify. we don't know very much about the actual nature of the misconduct. we do know when the fbi arrived in bergholtz the day before thanksgiving, november 2011 that they came early in the morning, it was still dark, bishop mullet was in his bedroom and a young woman who was married to one of his nephews came out of the bedroom with him early that morning. >> in an exclusive interview with one of mullet's grand sons, dan shrock talked exclusively with "america tonight." >> is sam mul it sleeping with the women -- mullet sleeping with the women? >> yes, he had a child with one

of them. >> martha mullet sam mu mull mus wife said the conduct was not sexual abuse. >> martha said this was not sexual abuse, it was sam's ways of providing like marital counseling. have you heard about that? >> that's what he used to say. and in a way you could have maybe looked at it if he didn't do with the woman like sleeping with them? had a child with one of them, so i don't really call that counseling. >> why did your uncles allow this to happen to their wives? >> well, because they wanted to stay there. and there again, all i know to say is i guess he had too much power over people's minds. i mean they didn't exactly agree with everyone. especially the guy that got the child, that his wife that had a child with him.

he got really mad and upset but still they don't want to leave because they don't agree with the other amish either. >> sam mullet though was sleeping with his son's wives. >> yes. i know. >> "america tonight's" adam may joins us now in the studio. explain why sam mullet could be released from prison now. >> this whole case was hinging on the federal hate crimes act. the whole case was hinging on, can you have a hate crime when the crime was committed major members of the same religion. if the courts continue to side with him and his attorneys sam mullet could be soon out of jail. >> are they the same religion? there are the amish who are known as peaceful people and the amish renegades. how many are there? >> you hit that on the head

john. this is break away, something completely else, maybe 200 within this group, sam mullet is the clear leader within the organization, but the concerning thing is more than 100 children allegedly under mullet's rule, not allowed to speak to anyone in the outside world. when i was there john they were polite they would say hi but there was no conversation beyond that. and it's not what so-called english, but they are also not allowed to talk to other amish outside their own family community so there are people out there like dan shrock when we interview in this piece, he is an outlier, he is trying to work with law enforcement to make sure they have a better life. >> it's a fascinating story, adam may, thank you very much. you can see more of adam's report coming up at the top of the hour right here on "america tonight" on al jazeera america,

it was an era known for its fear and secrecy. newly declassified intelligence records indicate the cia and fbi hired former nazis to spy on the soviet union. greagratefully recruited to be antisoviet allies. ex nazi intelligence value outweighed what one official declared their moral lapses. our picture of the day coming up next, plus stairway to heaven, one of led zeppelin's favorite songs but did they steal it? that's the focus of a lawsuit.

>> hurricane gon dloa gonzalo. not the end of the storm.

made its way across europe down over here towards part of the southern, eastern part of europe. in bulgaria, take a look at what we saw here where major flooding was going on. we have seen rainy days for the last couple of days as well as power lines down. road closures across the country as well as major snow in the higher elevations. this all of course caused major problems there. but we're not done yet. over the next few days we're going to see the storm make its way over toward greece, we do expect to see major flooding as well, at least over the next 72 hours. this is a category 2 storm making its way north and then we think it's going to make its way towards the northeast. the countries ats there so man, pakistan, and india. we do think there's going to be major influence here along the

coastal region. that's a look at your weather, more news is after this.

>> stairway to heaven is consistently voted one of the most popular rock songs of all time, it's iconic. was it stolen? a cord said it could move forward. dominic romano, founder of the romano law firm. good to see you. >> good to see you. >> first of all, let's listen to "stairway to heaven." ♪ >> and now, let's listen to the rock band spirit's song taurus.

♪ scholar enough for a lawsuit? >> yes. and there's also access. we're talking about approximately 12 beats, and led zeppelin in 1968, opened for the band spirit and played with them, opened for them four times in 1969. so in order to sustain a copyright infringement case you have to show access. led zeppelin covered part of taurus's songs, we have that and the basis for a lawsuit. this is not the first time led

zeppelin has been sued for their music, whole lot of loved, dazed and confused, the lemon song, there the band settled in court. >> when you're on top, you become a target, right? what defines a copy? if you -- if there's a -- when it comes to music what defines a copy? >> that's an excellent question. the length is not so consequently, it's the qualitative nature of what you're copying. here it is the intro was a substantial part of the taurus song being a shorter song, the song called spirit by taurus, the courts have found in other cases that a similar amount of copying can sustain an infringement action. >> the same thing happened to

george harrison. let's listen to a clip of that. ♪ oh my lord ♪ i really want to see you >> it sound very similar to he's so fine by the chiffons. let's listen to that ♪ he's so fine ♪ ♪ wish he were mine ♪ that handsome boy over there ♪ the one with the waivey hair ♪ i don't know how i'm going to do it ♪ >> and harrison was found guilty of subconscious plagiarism in this case? >> that's right. >> what does that mean? >> you don't have to show intent, you have to show access and substantial copying. both admire, those are very similar pieces of music. >> if led zeppelin loses what

happens, what could happen? >> randy california the original composer of the song for taurus could be charged with writing credit and also money damages for future royalties. most likely there will be some agreement over future payments. >> how much could it mean? >> i'll tell you this. $562 million is the amount that that song has reportedly earned, $13 million a year from royalties and performances. so we're not talking small pennys. >> dominic good to see you. >> great to see you. >> our picture of the day freeze frame was taken by nasa. a major solar flare. just in the past 48 hours, officials say it's the most kitchen the sun has -- the most active the sun has been in 24 years. "america tonight" with joie chen is coming up next.

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