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>> president obama's page on policies with the war on isis, and republicans and the white house, and sebastien tells us why so many americans struggle with addiction to war.
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>> the president is seeking force. right off the bat, appealing obamacare. >> how do you expect the president to trust that you really want to work together. >> our roll is to show why this happened and why this is a violation. >> si it found what we're looking for. >> we changed the game of human rights. >> we would have a 300-mile conversation about war. >> two pastors, their crime, feeding the homeless. >> we begin with president obama reversing course and asking congress for authority to fight isil in iraq and syria. >> we're engaging congress in a new authorization to engage in military force against isil. the world needs to know that we are united behind this effort. and the men and women deserve
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our clear and unified support. >> it comes at a time when there are real concerns about effectiveness for controlling isil. and after maintaining for months that he had all of the authority he needed. president sent a letter to the grand ayatollah khomeini expressing a concern about i.s.i.l. >> it seems to be a desperate move to get a nuclear arms deal joining us is corporal
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james, serving as national security advisor under george w bush, a fellow at the washington institute. ambassador, always good to have you on the show. president obama repeatedly said he had the authority to fight i.s.i.l., but said he wants to go to congress, because it's beneficial to the country to update the authority from 2001. why do you think he is going back to congress after saying to? >> there's several interpretations of this. one is he's been uncomfortable with the 2001 authorisation, even though he has used it because he had no other authority back in the june, july august time frame. over a year ago he expressed the desire to replace it with an updated one. the other reason is he's looking
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for ways to cooperate with congress. my fear is, given his reluctance to engage, we see it to some degree in the fight against i.s.i.l. this will be seen as an effort like the september 2013 chemical weapons issue of passing this on to the congress, and if the do? >> you reacted strongly to this. i'll quote you here. you said: strong words. senator mccain says he thinks the authorisation should be updated. i believe you think the authorisation should be updated. time? >> i think it would be great if you could get one, and this is how democracies are supposed to work. congress is brought in. my problem is one of perception. this is a president who, in his west point speech, a few months
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ago, before the i.s.i.s. thing blew up. talked about how some of the biggest problems that america made in the last 70 years involved use of military force. he is someone who is reluctant to do this, and in his public statements he takes a not disparaging but skeptical few of military force. this is known when taking into account the chemical weapons decision. if he wants to motivate the troops, put people in harm's way, that he send a message that he's fully on board with the conflict. if we get more authorisation from congress, fine. he'll fight this thing to the hilt with or without the authorisation. that is what we need to hear, and we don't. >> in the meantime, are we fighting it to the hilt.
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we here about the al nusra front gains and general dempsey saying we haven't vetted or armed or trained the syrian moderates. where are we in the fight against i.s.i.l. the president said it's too early to tell whether we are winning. he's arguing for a long-term campaign. i could make a case for a long-term campaign, but the problem is, and it gets to perceptions. i would prefer to see a long-term campaign with more airpower and advisory teams and controllers on the ground so the aircraft are more effective. we can take ground back from these people and stop putting them on the offensive. we had successors going after people in yemen and syria in the last 24 hours. we need more of this. this is a question of how the middle east, the countries we
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are aligned with, and the population, many with sympathies, how they feel about the conflict. it's important that we project two criteria, that we are confident and successful. >> the refer to bombing the coro zone group in syria may have killed an important bomb-maker for the al qaeda-related group. general austin will be at the meeting with congressional leaders at the white house, and said that the effort is going well. let's turn to another part of the effort, something where president obama sent a secret alert to iran's supreme leader last month stressing the shared interest in fighting i.s.i.l., but said the cooperation was tied to a nuclear deal reached. speaker john boehner was blunt when asked about this saying he doesn't trust the iranians, and we don't need to bring them into
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the i.s.i.l. fight. your reaction? >> i was appalled by this report, if it's true. and it seems that the white house is careful about confirming it. first of all, to the extent, and it's limited. i want to underline, as john boehner did, how limited any cooperation with the iranians should be and is on the fight against i.s.i.l., we have a few shared interests. the grand ayatollah is a believer in a similar islamic philosophy to that of i.s.i.s. we can contain this, deal with it, but should not make it our ally. that's the first thing. the second thing, to the extent that we are going to cooperate on the fight against i.s.i.s.,
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why are we making it doingt on signing a nuclear agreement. we do have interests with iran, and i admit there is overlap. albeit limited. i just - so what is he saying, that we'll walk away from the fight against i.s.i.l., if we don't get a nuclear agreement this month. this is the kind of thing that confuses people that want to administration. >> senator mccain agrees with you, and complains how we are playing ftse with iran. >> a pleasure to have you on the show. thank you. >> thank you. >> turning to the nation's capital. a day after both parties vowed to seek areas of common ground. partisan bickering heated up. house speaker john boehner took a combative tone on issues ranging from immigration to obama care. >> obama care is hurting the economy. it's hurting middle class
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families, and it's hurting the ability for employers to create more jobs. it should be repealed and replace with commonsense reforms. >> the speaker warned the president not a use executive authority on immigration, and put the own us on obama to find ways to work with republicans in the house and senate. >> i'm joined by the republican national committee press secretary. kirsten, good to have you with us. a big win. with that comes big responsibility. in a wall street journal article on thursday, mitch mcconnell and john boehner vowed to get congress going. most of what they talked about looked like a g.o.p. wishlist. tax reform, tort reform. things that george bush made little progress on. with the democratic president. is there a risk at promising action and not delivering?
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>> not at all. i think that it was very good of both the speaker and the leader, soon to be leader, to map out what americans can expect in the coming months. i think another story that came out today was in the washington post, and it detailed a little bit of a relationship between the white house, harry reid and the senators. a little insight into why the senate was not productive at all, and we saw a complete obstruction and road block there. i think it's very good of senator mitch mcconnell and speaker john boehner to say that that isn't happening with the new arrangement that will january. >> let's listen to mitch mcconnell, and how he sounded pretty conceal at ray when it came to obama care. >> if i had the ability, i would
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get rid of it. he's still there. we'll discuss how to go forward on this issue. >> sounded like he couldn't make obama care a priority, then they come out with an op-ed piece, and it's a recall, and john boehner said the same thing, that obama care is hurting the economy and middle class gam lis. democrats will say "here they go again, trying to repeal a lot that is ensure ag lot of people, alternative." >> i don't think it's the truth. we got down with the election, where obama care was the central issue, other than the democrats have done nothing to help the economy and unemployment. i think that the voters spoke. you know, whether or not repeal is what is going to happen over the next couple of months, there's a large percentage of
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this country that wants to see that. if we can't get all the way there, we figure out how to make fixes to the legislation. medical device tax is something that a lot of democrats are saying that we can get done off the bat when it comes to obama care. i think that they are going to - the democrats will go and fear monger. we have seen it for a long time. this is all very new, and we should take time and let the new do. >> one thing that they are not taking their time on, on both sides, is arguing about immigration. mitch mcconnell said if the president went it alone and used executive action it would be like waving a red flag in front of a bull. this is what john boehner had to say. >> you all heard me say, starting two years ago yesterday, that the immigration system is broken and needs to be fiffed. i made clear to the president that if he acts unilaterally on
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his own, outside of his authority, he'll poison the well and there'll be no chance. >> he went on to say when you play with matches you take the risk of burning yourself. aren't both sides poisoning the well with this rhetoric immediately after the election? >> you know what, i agree with mitch mcconnell and john boehner on this one. a lot of americans do to. we saw the play-out. immigration was probably a larger discussion in the midterms than we dreamt it would, with a lot of people, americans, saying "we don't want the president to act unilaterally, it is not his place." that does not take into consideration their points of view. we need a conversation. we had to have a conversation, and that is not what the democrats and president obama did. this provides a new chapter, let's sit and figure it out. when it comes to the president acting unilaterally, there's not
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enough trust on our side of the aisle or americans. him. >> when you talked about things not getting done, republicans attacked harry reid for failing to bring bills forward in the senate to be passed by the house. on immigration, is that who john boehner did, when he refused to allow a vote in the house on the reform bill? >> we'll have to situate and see the conversation that the house and the senate will have, a lot of people believe that the status quo is not acceptable. the dynamic that is difficult, that john boehner and others are dealing with is the trust factor with the president that i'm talking about. the president overplayed his hand on this issue and a lot of things, and it's difficult for us to - you know, for us to trust him on the subject. >> the argument on the other side is the tea party wing of
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the republican party, which is a minority has down the same thing, it wields a lot of power. we had a republican congressman on the show wednesday night. he was concerned about senate republicans, angling to be president, paul, cruz, rubio, and how they may be objects to the party, to govern compromises. >> i think the 2016 presidential field will be an interesting conversation. i think we are excited about it in the republican party, because i think our party is ready to have that conversation. voters are ready to see the people, candidates out there talking about the issues. i think that the tea party is an important part of who we are, and i think that it's a very good perspective for everyone to keep in mind, and they represent a lot of americans out there with their views. i think that's part of the conversation, not all the
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conversation, and moving forward, i think we are going to start seeing something and americans will be happy. >> they ended up dominating. they dominated too. you read the story in the show. the white house didn't have control over it. a lot of times, the tea party and the republican party get a bad wrap. media likes to talk about it. there's another side to the conversation, another perspective. we need to keep it in mind. >> it's good to get your perspective. appreciate you joining us, thank you coming up, why were two pastures and a 9 -- pastors and a 90-year-old man arrested for feeding homeless people. it's part of the debate over america. 25 years since the beginning of
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the end of the berlin wall our social media producer harmeli aregawi is tracking the top stories what, is trending. >> an anonymous website is in the news after one of users posted photos of a gruesome murder. we'd like to hear what you think about issues on the show:
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is the act of feeding the homeless in a public setting an act of charity or a criminal offence. in a growing trend across the country 21 cities passed laws limiting where and when organizations can feed homeless people. ford lauderdale is the latest city to enact such ordnances. it's a debate.
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a 90-year-old man and two pastors were issued criminal violations for violating rules of feeding the homeless in public. they could face 50 days in gaol and a $500 fine. >> i served three people at the time, and served the fourth. they said "put down that plate right away." it was a shock but the mayor of fort lauderdale says it's a public safety and health issue. >> the experts said if you feed them outdoors, breakfast, lunch, dinner, you enable the cycle of homelessness, they don't receive the aid they need to receive. >> father mark sims, one of the pastors who received a criminal citation, the rector the st. mary mag dalen e fista cole parr.
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>>, and james brooks, someone that advocates for a multifaceted approach to end homelessness in america. >> father sims, i'll start with you, since you are accused of violating the ordnance and got a summons to appear in court. your argument is that law criminalizes homelessness. >> it does. i feel that it does. i've been issued a criminal sitation for handing out food to someone who is hungry. a compassionate act of feeding an individual, i was given a criminal citation. >> why is there a need for the laws? we know florida had a homeless problem, ranking second in the nation. what do you say to the father. why should we punish people for trying to help the needy? >> i have to argue with you in terms of analysis of a trend.
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you talk about 21 cities. there's 21,000 municipalities and the united states, less than 1% of cities that have rules on the books. >> there's a couple of significant cities. >> let me give you the position which, yes, there are cities that c improves statues that regulate before, such as aggressive pan handling or sleeping in public places. these are things that citizens have done. what i'd like you to look at is what fort lauderdale has done to solve housing and homelessness problem. if you look at the statistics released last week, fort lauderdale is exemplary in that it has seen a 30% reduction in chronic homelessness. >> i'm not arguing the point. fort lauderdale is a city that
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has done one of the best jobs. we are not saying fort lauderdale is a bad guys, but there's a question of they are little. >> yes. they are trying to help people that have little. this is my point, and the difference of opinion that i have with father sims, is that there are arguments over how do you help the homeless. there are reasonable arguments. arguments that city leaders put forward is you need a comprehensive approach to tie housing to nude irn, health care, education -- nutrition, health care, education and job training. we know this work. you only need to look at the veterans housing population to see that they had eliminated for all practical purposes. >> let's bring the point to father sims. james and others argued that it's better for the homeless to
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be fed indoors, taken into programs that have other elements that deal with mental health and drug rehab. does he not have a point that it would be better for the homeless to go to those facilities than to get the food outside ? >> it would be better if every individual had a home and place to live. they don't. the fact is that stom people are living on the streets because they cannot get jobs. i just heard mr brooks mention a move towards getting everyone in a position where they could be hired and gain fully employed. when you have as high an unemployment rate as we to in south florida, you will have people living on the streets. i believe that one of the reasons that this issue has really struck a nerve is because through the last recession, many people who never would have experienced homelessness in the past experienced a brush with
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homelessness. and they are not going to sit and just watch people not be fed. it's just simply inhumane. not everyone is ready to go into a homeless shelter. >> james, the national coalition for the homeless argues what the father is arguing, that homelessness is not a choice. people that are getting the food out there. it is not encouraging people to be homeless. these are people who have no other alternative. >> yes. >> and i wouldn't argue it's a choice. let's go to comparable examples. city of philadelphia tried to approach the situation in the same way that fort lauderdale approached it. they were ultimately held by the courts to be in violation of rules, and had to allow the process to go along just as it was. i guess my question to father sims is is it the intention to continue to have a programme
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that feeds the homeless where you meet them as many of the housing advocates offer. if you do that, you'll never solve the homeless problem in america. we know how to solve homelessness in america. we are doing it across the country. it is not one-off programs of feeding people in public parks. >> i completely disagreeful you are not going to completely end homeless possess in this country. it's not going to happen. there'll always be people who are poor, living on the streets for one reason or another, and all we are trying to do is compassionately provide them with a meal. i completely disagree with that. >> father, what about the the issue of restrictions as to where it's done. in fort lauderdale's case a lot of this is happening in public parks, and areas where tourists go. if encouraging the homeless to be in certain areas because they are fed in public is damaging
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tourism which is important to that area, wouldn't that hurt the homeless and the local economy by taking money away otherwise. >> i unds it completely. i'm a native floreddian, and understand the importance of tourism in our state. i believe the issue of feeding someone on a sunday afternoon. i left church at 12:15 and arrived at downtown fort lauderdale. the streets were empty except for the people being fed, who were providing the meal, and the police present. >> certainly an important issue, because we have hundreds of thousands of homeless people in the united states today. father sims, james brooks, a pleasure to have you both with us. thank you for talking with us. the berlin wall was the ultimate symbol of cold war oppression until 25 years ago this weekend. the wall was guilt in
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1951 to stop people escaping from communist germany, it split families and isolated west berlin, american presidents voice said solidarity with berlin starting with john f. kennedy in 1963. >> as a free man i take pride in theed world [ speaking foreign language ] . >> and ronald reagan challenged later. >> mr gorbachev, tear down this wall when the wall finally did come down, our next guest was there, taking pictures. anthony is an emmy award winning photographer who covered the fall for time magazine, and covered the unification of followed. >> must have been an incredible time for you.
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as a cuban communism. i remember watching that. it was a greats moment of my life. you say it was a story of a lifetime for you. >> absolutely. as an american, 50% of the world was off limits. for us it was the opening of the other half of the world. >> this followed a haphazard lifting of restrictions in germany, having thousands of east germans go to the wall, and thousands of west germans too. what was the atmosphere like on those days. >> i arrived on november 10th, after the wall oddly unofficially opened, and people were passing through the wall in crowds. i went immediately to the brandenburg gate. there were crowds - people on balconies.
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the streets were full. cars were coming across. it was a big celebration that you can imagine. >> you took a famous photo. let's see if we can put it up, a picture showing west germans up on top of the wall, which you see the east german police lined up, looking at the wall, and probably thousands of west germans atop that wall across from the branden burg gate. it's incredible to look at that, ago. >> the scene was euphoric. all the people on the wall were west germans. the building in the background is the right stock. the capital of germany. there were people jumping the wall, putting flowers
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on the wall. there was a lot of questions. some of your pictures show what happened. one of them, here you have east german police may be on a wall shooting water canons. that was the morning after. there was a confrontation between the east germans, and people that wanted to take down a slap of the wall. they used water canons, this was at the brandenburg gait as well. it was exciting. nobody knew what was going to happen from one second to the next. it was very much in question. >> you had all sorts of crazy things happening.
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we showed a picture that showed the wall, a guy with a sledgehammer breaking through, and a water canon shooting through. there's that picture. we had another where the ball is falling. it's an institute crazy time. >> there was that group. they pulled down that one slab of the wall against the east german water canons, when the slab came down, the east germans formed a hole. it was just wild, and it was crazy, but there was a lot of sides. >> incredible moments, worth reliving. it's a pleasure to have you here, to look back. >> time to see what is trending on the web. aregawi. >> a suspect has been arrested in a gruesome washington state
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homicide that has been making headlines since a murderer claimed responsibility on an anonymous website. 30-year-old lynn coughlin was found dead. a person who claimed to have killed her posted bodies -- pictures of her bodies with a message, "turns outs it's harder to strangle someone than it is on the movies" and: and that is it what happened. after a massive manhunt on wednesday, 33-year-old david michael kaling, coughlin's live-in boyfriend, admitted to the murder and turned himself in to organ deputies. this is the same site that nude photos were posted.
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some users posted bomb and shooting threat hoaxes. they harassed kids online, and this is an example of how the users failed: i spoke with a lieutenant on the case who firmed that no one called 911 before coughlin's son discovered the body. this is a horrific story battling human rights abuses without weapons, a look at first responders to atrocities. foley. >> manmade disoers like
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chernobyl, we'll look at the physical and mental effect of working the graveyard shift. and one of the biggest battles a soldier faces. we are told why troops have a hard time leaving conflicts >> it's a chilling and draconian sentence... it simply cannot stand. >> this trial was a sham... >> they are truth seekers... >> all they really wanna do is find out what's happening, so they can tell people... >> governments around the world all united to condemn this... >> as you can see, it's still a very much volatile situation... >> the government is prepared to carry out mass array... >> if you want free press in the new democracy,
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let the journalists live. >> a deadly attack that shocked the nation. >> the front part of the ship was just red with blood. >> was there a cover-up? now an in-depth investigation reveals shocking new evidence. what really happened? the day israel attacked america. tonight, 10:00 eastern. only on al jazeera america.
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when atrocities and war crimes happen throughout the world, the international organization human rights watch is one of the first on the scene. a team of investigators known as the eteam, the emergencies team, heads into the danger. members smuggle themselves across borders into war zones, to document violations of human rights and international war. the goal is not just to tell the stories of what happened, but to bring down the weight of international justice, and give a voice to those that otherwise would never be heard. joining us is ross kaufman, he
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and katy co-directed and produced "eteam", following the human rights watch team on investigations in syria and libya. from berlin, fred abrahams at human rights watch. great to have you both with us. one review referred to the documentary as a roller-coaster of film making at its best. you face danger to do your job. why are you willing to take the risks. why is it so important? >> well, traditionally human rights work was going to a country, conducting an investigation, and returning to write a report. we felt there needed to be urgency, crisis, in armed conflict and war. we wanted to be on the scene at the moment in real time to protect civilians. we had information that was accurate, the scene was fast-moving and we wanted to feed that into policy makers, because that is the goal.
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how do we change something. how do we protect civilians in times of war. >> you have become the human rights first responders. in the film, an investigator in syria is interviewing a mother whose children died. the investigator tells the woman, we are not journalists, we are trying to report - not just to report things, but to make some change. i know that you have said this job gives you the opportunity to scream. is there not enough screaming about the abuses that are happening around the world. >> i think our objective is to strategically scream. the goal is not to just pound our fist on the table and say something terrible is happening. the goal is to improve policy and the situation. there are things to do. there are changes that can improve the situation for civilians in war. we are not going to stop the
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wars, but we can help humanitarian aid reach the team needed and hold accountable the perpetrators. that's the key goal. when people are abusive in their conduct, militaries, armed groups. can we hold them accountable. and in some cases it works. >> ross, you documented a number of award-winning documentaries, why did you decide to follow the investigators and do the film. >> when my directing partner and i decided to do the film. kate any and wondered what happened. and we knew they were incredible characters. diverse and passionate. we knew we had to make a film about the four people.
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>> they are remarkable people. the film shoes them at home, not just at work. one, you see anya, they are investigators, they are out there talking about the bombings in syria, children hurt in the streets, and another, peter, is with his young son, asking about muammar gaddafi stealing children's toys. what is it like to be one day safe at home, and the next to be in a war-torn country imaginable? >> well, it is a bit of a skitso frepic life -- schizophrenic life. that's true. when you are in the field you focus on the work. you have to separate yourself, detach from the horrible things you hear. you'll never get it done if you absorb the stories. it's doable. when you come home and see the family.
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i have children now. then it becomes more diff to transition back into that life. i would say having children it's difficult for me to see families that are suffering and children suffering but i identify with that the more. >> i can't imagine a bigger contrast. why did you despite to highlight that. why show that contrast. katy and i were clear we wanted to go home with these people. we wanted to relate to our characters. it's one thing seeing people out in the field.
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seeing them in every day circumstances enjoying their time at home and seeing how they relate to the rest of the family. the dangers are horrendous. none so much as james foley. he shot some of the footage in the film. are you concerned because of some of these groups doing after that some of these stories need to be told. >> it's a huge concern. they are courageous and brave people. they still go to these places. jim was one of those people and worked hard to show the horrible things going
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on in the world. he was a passionate positive person. and we had another photographer, rachel anderson, she was dedicated to this work. it's horrible when these things happen, as anya said many times, you see the worst in people in these situations, and you see the best in people. that keeps myself and katy and the emergency team going, but everyone that goes into the things. >> an important film, important work. you have improved policy and testified against war criminals, it's important work. it's an honour to have you with us. the eteam netflix. >> fighting off an addiction to war. fighting off the battle. working overnight. it does a lot more than make employees tired. some of the biggest manmade
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>> al jazeera america presents the best documentaries >> i felt like i was just nothing >> for this young girl, times were hard >> doris had a racist, impoverished setting had a major impact >> but with looks charm.... >> i just wanted to take care of my momma... >> and no remorse... >> she giggles everytime she steps into the revolving door of justice >> she became legendary... >> the finer the store, the bigger the challenge >> al jazeera america presents the life and crimes of doris payne today's data dive goes on the night shift. working night hours prematurely aims your brain. people that work overnight hours shifts tested at levels similar to people 6.5 years older. an extensive study published in
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the journal. occupational and environmental medicines, shows night shifts has major effect on memory and speed of thought. it's worse for people that alternate between morning, afternoon and night. recovering doesn't come quickly. if you work those shifts for a decade, it takes you five years to make a recovery. scientists say the internal lock is meant to have us awake and working through the day and sleeping at night. >> the british medical adjourn found long-term shiftworkers double the chance of developing breast cancer. bad shifts are connected to you will sers, obesity and heart disease and make it difficult to have kids. many manmade disasters took place on the overnight shift. the nuclear meltdowns at 3-mile island and chernobyl were caused partially by
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operator error. the exxon disaster was blamed by a third mate, overworked and exhausted. people that work ungodly hours and drive are a serious problem. the federal motor carrier safety administration reports more than 750 decide and 20,000 others are injured every year because of overtired commercial vehicle drivers alone. more important evidence of the need for sleep. >> coming up, if war is hell, why do so many soldiers want to go back to battle. primetime news. >> welcome to al jazeera america. >> stories that impact the world, affect the nation and touch your life. >> i'm back. i'm not going anywhere this time. >> only on al jazeera america.
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america celebrates the bravery of our troops on veterans day this tuesday. many of those soldiers struggle to leave war behind. they miss the excitement of war and suffer withdrawal when they come home. best-selling author sebastien younger covered war and struggled with an addiction to war. i spoke with him about a documentary "the last patrol", he takes a war photographer and two soldiers he filmed in afghanistan on a unique journey.
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>> the idea was to take a series of trips throughout the course of the year, walking through every seen, starting in washington d.c. and heading north. we'd bring daisy, my dog, for company and protection, and a cameraman to record our experiences. while we were moving through america, we would have a 300 mile conversation about war. about what it does to you, about how it changes you, and about why you miss it. why it's so hard to come back from war and re-enter society. >> seb aft yep is the oscar-nominated director and producer of "the last patrol", and joins us. it premieres november 10th on h.b.o., at 9:00pm eastern. you took a war photographer and two soldiers you were embedded with in afghanistan, and who were an ongoing the subject of
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this war. and you took the railway lines from d.c. and further west. you described the document ray as a 400 -- documentary as a 400 mile conversation about war, and why it's hard to come home. >> after my friend was killed in combat. i wanted to do something that i discussed doing with him, which was to get to know america by walking through the middle of it. railway lines are good for that, they go through towns, getto, farms, a transsentor of american society. because it's no man's land, there's a lot of places to sleep. we didn't have tents. we were sleeping under bridges, in the woods and what have you. doing. >> you showed the video of you and tim heathering tonne, your friend who died covering the conflict in
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2011, the two of you talking about doing this, going along the train lines. how powerful was it for you to see america in that way? >> well, you know, i grew up in a suburb outside of boston, and live in new york city. i is it have a particular experience of america. what was interesting for me as american, is to walk just a few hundred miles and to see the incredible variety of this world, of this land, country. i mean, you know, we walked through ghetto, farms. racially it was divided. divided. we walked through wealthy towns and along the way we ask people about our county. a question i had is what do you think the best thing about america is. when we go through really, really poor neighbourhoods,
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ghettos in phil baltisberger, invariably people said the best thing about america is freedom. it's a free country, freedom of speech. wealthier communities, they opportunity. >> you mentioned what you were doing was illegal to walk near the tracks. i didn't know that. i didn't know there were amtrak police, that you had to hide from them, and helped to recreate the hardship and brotherhood of a mission at war without getting fired upon, and that's why you called this "the last patrol." yes, it's technically not legal to walk along the railway lines. in rural areas people do it. on the high speed line between d.c. and new york, it's frowned upon. we had a game of cat and mouse with the police. at one point they are looking at the helicopter, but we stayed
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clear of them. they don't want people getting killed. we are careful and want - and are pretty together guys. there. >> one of points you make, you are addicted to battle and you don't want to go back. that excitement, rush, hard to find anywhere else, you talk about how george washington after the first fire fight talked about bullets whistling by. this is a problem. when they returned home. many feel alone and alienated. that is scarier than bullets. >> there was a bunch of things going on. it's an adrenaline-style experience. it's hard to give up. secondly, people get traumatized
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by violence, and that's - there's a healing process that takes time. the reason that a lot of the soldiers i knew activity missed the war and wished they were back in it. it had to do with brotherhood. you are in a blat on and combat. 30-40 men. you sleep soldier to soldier. it reproduces our incest ral pass. you come back to this society, it's alienated. industrial society has the highest rates of suicide and abuse ever in human history. my personal opinion is it's an industrial society, a lonely family. >> and people lose the bond, the camaraderie when they come back. between 2009 and
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201122" were committing -- 2011, 22% were committing suicide. >> veterans have a high suicide rate. a lot of that figure is composed of vietnam vets, it's tragic. >> a lot are older, many are younger, coming from afghanistan and iraq. it's a powerful story you tell, "the last patrol" premieres november 10th on h.b.o. good to see you. >> that's all for now. the conversation conditions on the website. aljazeera.com/considerthis. we are on facebook and twitter @ajconsiderthis. and you can tweet me
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