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flash point ferguson, move, violence erupts after a grand jury decides not to indict darren wilson the white police officer who shot and killed michael brown in august. also chuck hagel resigns, and the white house reverses course on iran. hello, i'm antonio mora. welcome to "consider this." those stories and more straight ahead. >> no probable cause exists to
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file any charges against officer wilson. >> i would like to reiterate my call for peace, calm and restraint. >> this is not the time to turn on each other. we are one community. >> he was asked to resign, basically, he was fired. >> i consider myself extraordinarily lucky to have had him by my side for two years. >> no deal on iran's nuclear program. >> we don't want just any agreement. we want the right agreement. >> there's a growing body of evidence that the happiest part of our lives begins in our 50s. >> if you have been told in the past that you had spots on your x ray. >> we can't get the medical assistance we deserve, how can we move forward. >> for most folks this may be the only chance they get. >> we begin with a case that
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captivated and sharply divided america. the shooting of unarmed teenager michael brown by police officer wilson. >> they returned a no-true bill on each of the five indictments. >> the shooting death sparks months of demonstrations including a couple of weeks of protests that sometimes turned violent. the missouri governor declared a state of emergency leading up to the decision and called up the national guard. he pleaded for calm and so did michael brown's family who issued a statement that read in part:
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moments after the grand jury decision was announced i spoke with al jazeera correspondent robert ray from clayton, missouri. robert good to see you, you were there as the prosecutor for st. louis county announced the grand jury's decision. what was the reaction of the crowd near you? >> reporter: well, antonio, good evening, in front of the justice center here in clayton, missouri, you know it was silent to be honest with you. here where we are at you could hear a pin drop as people were listening to the prosecuting attorney inside there our correspondent was inside the room, and you know what, interesting, some details game out. the grand jury started meeting on august 20th. they met for 70 hours over the course of the past three and a half months. they were able to hear over 60
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witnesses and they came to the conclusion that there will be no indictment, that officer wilson was reacting at a split second like an officer should, they thought. that's the decision, and what everyone is going to have to deal with here, as this is now a closed case and an open file as the prosecutor just said. so we should get more details when those files get out to all of us in -- in the coming days. hopefully we'll receive that tonight. but you know what, it's quiet here, but over in ferguson, the streets are filling up. the mother of michael brown was listening to the grand jury verdict while she was sitting on top of a vehicle. she broke down in tears and some of the demonstrators took her away. so clearly a lot of people looking at this as a very tough night. and hopefully there will be no violence on the streets. that's what the brown family is
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calling for, pastors and priests are calling for. the president of the united states is going to make a statement regarding this announcement. so everything very fluid at this moment, antonio. >> that was earlier, and sadly it did not take long for some protesters to turn violent. also, police in ferguson have reported gunshots fired and have told al jazeera crews to take shelter. for more let's bring in jamie floyd, and we're also joined by former missouri state senator, jeffery smith. he is the author of "ferguson black and white." very good to have you both here. jeff you actually went to school with michael brown's mother. what was injury reaction? >> i wasn't that surprised to the verdict. the missouri state law is very
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liberal towards officers. a fleeing felon can be killed in there is a belief on the part of the officer that that felon constitutes a threat to other people. so given the statutes, i wasn't very surprised and also given the jury pool which was three-quarters white. >> jamie? >> i agree entirely. the law of self-defense is very, very favorable to police officers. you get the state of innocence and the state of mind of the police officer. and a grand jury is not asked to find beyond a reasonable doubt -- >> it's probable cause. >> right. we know this, right, antoine know? so they really were given complete leeway in this case to find for the officer, and he testified and testified for hours, so he told them what his state of mind was at the moment
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he pulled the trigger, so that gave them the opportunity to think the way the officer was thinking at that moment in time. so no matter how much sympathy they had for this unarmed teenager, assuming they had sympathy for him, they really put themselves in the shoes of that officer at the time he pulled the tradition -- trigger. >> jeff you wrote the book on ferguson and talking about the racial divide there. >> the anger runs very deep. this is about a system that people have felt for decades is very unjust. there is about 30 municipal oits that make up st. louis county. and many of them derive, 20, 30, 40, even 50% of their annual budgets just from traffic stops.
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and in a lot of cases the police forces are overwhelmingly white. and that leads to a massive chasm and a lot of distress where the constituents feel like the budget is funded just by pulling them over. >> and even had there been an indictment in this case, that wouldn't have resolved the underlying tension in this community. even if there had been a conviction, that wouldn't have resolved the underlying tension in this community. the problems in ferguson and the problems that are not being addressed in communities like ferguson run much deeper. >> and this of course is something that is not just a problem in missouri, it's a problem in -- in lots of parts of this country. but unfortunately then you see what is happening tonight. the violence that's happening
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there, and there's going to be a reaction from others that are going to say, this is ju just -- there are going to people who say police need to crack down because of this kind of violence. >> sure, and that's what you saw in august after people started protesting. unfortunately the protests allow a lot of people in this country to focus on the protests as opposed to focusing on the underlying problem. we click on garbage can fires. we are drawn to television screens when they show people overturning cars. that's a small minority of people out there. there have been 100 days of protests going on since august 9th. and for the most part it has been completely peaceful, and even when there wasn't violence, 95% were peaceful
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>> that's a very good point. >> there is -- is a distinction between peaceful protests and violence and riot. but when there are riots we have to ask ours what is the cause for that kind of corruption? when those situations arise, are there causes that we need to be examining for that kind of eruption, because there may be legitimate reasons for those kinds of eruptions that we are not examining honestly and truth 6ly. >> clearly the significant underlying tensions. the president spoke out tonight and brought that up. he called for calm on both sides for police to react with calm and peace from the protesters, which, again, i'm sure a small minority did not heed what the brown family called for, what the president called for, and
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even what officer darren wilson called for. there was new information tonight. any prosecutor justified why the grand jury found the way they did not to indict the officer. >> he did. he talked about a lot of the conflicting evidence brought forth by witnesses, which i think for some people reinforced the need for a jury trial to sort a lot of this out. but one question was how far away was darren wilson when he is shot michael brown. to me that's sort of the crux of the case. >> let's talk about some of the points you just made. why -- as you were saying, it's not reasonable doubt, it's only probable cause, so even though missouri law protects the officers, why not say, hey, there was a shooting here, one
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person was unarmed. why not then go to a full court case? >> well, i think what the prosecutor would say to you is, we're going to release that evidence. take a look at it when it comes out. and this is, again, a grand jury proceeding. different standard, different burden of proof, not the same as a trial. >> and again it is the normal procedure to take this to a grand jury. >> is it one procedure. and what the critics would say is he -- two things that he could have done differently. first of all he gave them all of this evidence. he gave them all of the potential charges. usually the way you do it is you hone in on a potential charge and you give them a theory of the case, and he didn't do that. >> the prosecutor pretty much points them in the direction of where they should go. >> so maybe he didn't do as much as he should have done, some critics might say.
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>> and he says that we kept hearing about the witnesses that were damming to officer wilson. he says there are a number of witnesses that say the opposite -- >> the witnesses were all over the place, as they always are in a case. >> but one of the things he brought up is a couple of the bullets were fired inside the police car, which leads to -- you know, or might lead you to support -- or to think that the theory that michael -- that there was a struggle, and that shots were fired inside the car. >> there was clearly a struggle in the car, who initiated that, we don't know. but it's not an answer to every question people have. if there was a skirmish in the car, we don't know who initiated that. and there was 153 feet between the car and where mike brown's body was. so we know he was running away. and we're asked to believe that
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a kid who had two shots fired at him, ran 153 feet, and then turned around and ran into a hail of bullets and charged at the officer. >> that's one of the things that the prosecutor brought up as a possibility as to what happened. one other thing that he addressed -- and we are going to see all of the evidence of the grand jury, which is not a usual situation, but one thing that came out is that officer wilson did know that michael brown was possibly the perpetrator of that robbery earlier. >> yes, that is part of what factored into his state of mind when firing, and that apparently affected the grand jury's decision, yeah. >> should the state of mind of the officer affect the grand jury decision? >> absolutely.
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that would be entirely part of their decision, and it's not supposed to be a reasonable person. i'm thinking so what, if i'm a cop, that's not enough for me to pull the trigger. but it's supposed to be darren wilson's state of mind. and this is where the race question becomes so critical, because it does become a subjective white police officer's state of mind vis-a-vis that young black teenager, and that's why i think we need to rethink our self-defense law in this country. that's where it takes us back to trayvon martin, and all the way back to emmett till. the which would view each other in this countries is dysfunctional, because it isn't an objective reasonable person's
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standard. >> and while there have been improvements we have a long way to go. >> a long way to go. >> let's talk about what happened today. do you think as a former missouri legislator that this was a smart way to do this? to push this announcement of the grand jury decision to such a late hour of the night. >> clearly that was unwise. anyone that has been on the front lines, i have been back to missouri to interview protesters, and had several call into my classes, and they all agree that the difference between day and night is literally day and night. all of the day protests have been peaceful, and after about 9:00, 10:00, different people come out. so announcing it at this time was a bad idea. >> and why did they do it that
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way? >> and to back up a step, i think having a special prosecutor for all police-involved shootings would seem to be a better way to do things to regain some of the trust of the community. there is legislation that is going to be introduced in a month and a half to do that. it has bipartisan support. so that could be one potential positive outcome to come from this. >> that would be excellent. in all of my years of covering cases, when there is a major case, and we have covered many of them, you hear from the judge or the court or from the officer of the court 10:00 am tomorrow morning, we're going to announce the decision. not the dribs and drabs we had in this with anxiety in the community, and now we see the result. so i think what you are proposing is much, much better. even if that one small change
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could come out of it that would be a good thing. >> because you have to wonder of whether this accumulated in part because of the way it was handled before and on monday. jamie always good to see you. jeff real pleasure to have you with us. there has been an big outcry on the internet on all sides of this. and to see how social media is rea reacting, let's check in with h hermila. >> several hashtags have been trending: strong reaction the naacp say we join our brothers and sisters across the country in outrage. but alexis says: our viewers also took to twitter to share their thoughts. garrison says:
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but gary sees it differently: we want to know what you think. you can tweet us. antonio passions running very high online. >> and we'll have to see what the evidence does show when it comes up. we have had plenty of major news outside of ferguson, a shake up in the obama administration. and a white house reverse on iran. when did they agree to an extension of talks just days after they said they wouldn't. and what do you think? >> stories that impact the
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>> i have today submitted by resignation as secretary of defense. it has been the greatest privilege of my life. the greatest privilege of my life to lead and also to serve with the men and women of the defense department and support their families. i am immensely proud of what we have accomplished during this time. >> while president obama praised hagel, his third secretary of defense, and someone he has been friendly with going back to their days in the senate. it was clear that hagel was essentially fired. joining us is the director of research for the foreign policy program at the brookings institution, where he specializes in u.s. defense strategy, the use of force and american foreign policy. there had been rumblings that there would be a shakeup in the administration after the midterms. you suggested today that hagel
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is a scapegoat. >> there's a certain amount of scapegoating going on. i think hagel has been a solid and reasonable secretary of defense but perhaps not a superstar, and you could argue that it's reasonable in these difficult international times to go looking for a superstar. to say somebody is just solid is not good enough. however, i think it's important to note that the orrins of the problem in iraq and syria, to the extent they had some roots in the obama administration, go back to the first term when chuck hagel was not yet in any administration, and most of the mistakes were made primarily out of the white house, by president obama choosing to withdraw troops from iraq, and not engaging with the syrian opposition, and also watch the iraqi political system beginning
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to deteriorate. all of those predate hagel. so it's a little bit unfair he take the blame for most of that. but, again, there may be somebody better waiting in the wings. >> but there are all sorts of reports of anonymous senior officials being wroted saying the white house had lost confidence in hagel's ability to lead the pentagon, we're hearing things as rough as he wasn't up to the job. >> well, you also hear john mccain saying that hagel felt constrained by the white house. that he couldn't develop a serious policy for syria, another the time when the administration was not even willing to do a no-fly zone over the country. and the rumor mill doesn't add up to a cohesive story to my mind at least. i don't quite believe it so far. most of the big decisions on
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iraq and syria in particular, the places where we had the greatest trouble came out of the white house. and on certain other issues around the world, like the asia pacific rebalance, i think hagel was doing a respectable job. so where does that leave you? we probably do need some really strong new ideas, and perhaps a successor to hagel could come up with some of those. i hope the white house will continue if that's the case. it is going to require some open-mindedness on the washington side of the river as well. >> and you bring up senator mccain, he also said that hagel was frustrated with some aspects of the administrations, national security policy and their decision making, one quote was:
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the next secretary of defense will be president obama's fourth as much as any other president has ever had, which of course, raises the question which you have raised, is the problem on the washington side of the river or on the pentagon, the virginia side of the river? >> right, and i don't want to overstate -- i'm not trying to say that mr. obama's foreign policy is falling apart everywhere. some elements are looking very good. i think his overall strategy has been reasonably sound. i think on russia and ukraine, the fairly calm reaction on sanctions has been correct. but on a iraq and syria and to some extent afghanistan and the broader middle east in general, i think we have seen a loss of
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direction that has come from president obama. and it's his own doing that we have these predicaments today. >> is that split between the white house and pentagon much deeper than just between secretary of defense hagel, and president obama? >> i would tend to say the answer is overall no. because i believe there is unity on a few big issues. asia pacific rebalance which is a mildly greater emphasis on that part of the world than before. there is general cooperation with the uniform military and the white house on sequestration. same thing on iran, and russia and ukraine trying to use economic sanctions rather than military threat. so i think on most issues there has been some cooperation, and on iraq policy the last few
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months we have been nudging our involvement gradually upward again, and mr. obama has been flexible and try to reintroduce that we probably never should have pulled out. but iraq and syria are a mess. the afghanistan plan drawndown is a mistake. it's too fast, and there is a sense that middle eastern policy is being driven by a president's desire to say he has ended these wars on his watch. so i'm not sure a secretary of defense can fix that problem. >> and a lot of names are being floated as to who will be the next secretary of defense. michael pleasure to have you as always. >> thank you. my pleasure. we turn now to yet another deadline that has passed without an agreement to curb iran's nuclear program. now both sides have pushed off the deadline for seven months,
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speaking on vienna monday, secretary of state john kerry said while substantial progress has been made major points of disagreement remain. >> this takes time. the stakes are high, and the issues complicated and technical. and each decision affects other decisions. there's also an intimate relationship. >> but in an address to the iranian people, the president was optimistic. >> translator: our nation will be victorious and achieve final victory, i have no doubt over the success of this approach and the world community, there is no alternate path to negotiations. >> joining us is the director of the new america foundation iran initiative which hosted president rouhani this past
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september. this is starting to feel like groundhog's day. in the end doesn't this help iron? because they are getting more sanctions lifted and more time to keep plugging along with their nuclear program. >> it helps to some extent. but there are many opponents to this deal in tehran, and the more time they have to voice their displeasure, the more they fall pray to possibly being derailed. i would say the united states and the p5-plus-1 also have a good part in this deal. every six months it has been about $4 billion. this will be $7 million -- >> $700 million. >> $700 million per month. and it's really a drop in the bucket, and the majority is assets that the iranians --
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>> their own assets. yeah. but the prior lifting of the sanctions the iranian economy had been in a major recession for a while. and you hear president rouhani making those comments about iran being victorious, and the superpeople leader, his boss has not shown much flexibility in his public statements. so do you think we'll ever get to a deal? >> the supreme heard no question has been very tough in his statements, very anti-american retd rick. but what else would you expect for him to say at this point. from what i understand a fair bit of progress had been made over these last few days, and you heard secretary of state kerry and president rouhani speak in a very open manner about this deal.
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i just don't think they had enough time to work out the technical details. but because of this interim deal, iran's program is now frozen, not only frozen, but certain elements of it have actually been reversed, and that's a good deal. >> but on the other hand there had been discussion as to whether iran even had the right to enrich at one point. and now we have completely capitulated on that and agreed that they do. and the question is how much they can enrich and if they wanted to make a nuclear weapon they could do so quickly. >> i think president obama came to the right decision that unless we acknowledge that iran had the right to a peaceful nuclear program, this issue was not going to be resolved politically. now think back to iran over these years when we were hitting them with the toughest sanctions
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we have levied against anyone. and what was iran doing? they were ratcheting up the program, they went from a few hundred centrifuges to now 20,000. so the sanctions were not necessarily working. i would also con tend the fact that the obama administration dropped the regime change rhetoric, and though talks conveyed to the iranians we will allow you to have an enrichment program on a limited basis, that helped really bring them to the table in addition to the sanctions. >> the israelis aren't happy. the saudis aren't happy. you mentioned the seven months gives hard liners on both sides. because there's a bipartisan movement in congress to impose more sanctions on iran. so do you think such a long extension could scuttle all of
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this? >> the longer the time before we get a deal, the longer the possibility of being scuttled. already in these few hours, members of congress have come forward with some very tough sanctions, tough statements, calling for sanctions. my opinion is if the united states was to levy new sanctions at this point, it would derail the deal entirely, and cause the iranians to step back. but that being said, i think the democrats who once supported the tougher road and sanctions during negotiationings are starting to fall away, and it is becoming more of a partisan opposition to this, and i think the fact that they are saying that this past year has brought new results, i think that's just an empty argument. >> and the international atomic energy agency as said that the iranians are complied with a series of things, of course the big question is whether they
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have some covert program that we don't know about. thank you for being with us. >> thank you so much. and now for more stories from around the world. ♪ we begin in madagascar where the prime minister said an outbreak of the blew bonnic playing has killed many people since august. the playing is carried think rodents and spread to humans by flee bites, and can be passed person to person through coughing. the disease which wiped out a third of europe's population in the 1400s is found these days in poor areas with weak health systems. it can kill someone infected in as little as 24 hours. president obama awarded 18 americans the medal of freedom. the honor is given to individuals who have provided
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meritorious contributions to u.s. security, world peace, or cultural endeavors. this year's recipients included meryl streep, and many more. composer ebb steven sonhime was supposed to be at the event but couldn't make it. there civil rights activists were also awarded. we end about 2,000 feet below the surface of the ocean where a mysterious and very creepy-looking female angler fish made its video debut. it was first observed by scientists on november 17th.
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the fish has fang jaws that devour its pray, but it's less than 4 inches long, so it's not as terrify as it looks for us humans, but it's a different case if you are a fish. that's some of what is happening around the world. straight ahead the real roots of a mid-life crisis, while you'll probably face a slump in middle age, but come out much better on the other side. also how one third of all food on earth goes to waste. and how one man is trying to make a difference for thousands of americans who don't have health care around the country. >> no one's prepared for this journey. >> experience al jazeera america's critically acclaimed original series from the beginning. >> experiencing it has changed me completely. >> follow the journey as six americans face the immigration debate up close and personal. >> it's heartbreaking. >> i'm the enemy. >> i'm really pissed off.
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when we think of a mid-life crisis what usually comes to mind are the stereotypical images of a man buying a sports car, and the onset of feelings of doubt. >> why does it say 38 and not 40? >> because your mom wants to be 38 not 40. let's not mention it again. >> but a growing body of research reveals that going through a slump in middle age may be more widespread than you think. so are we all doomed to suffer in our 40s. for more we're joined by washington, d.c. by contributing editor at the atlantic and senior fellow at the brookings
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institution and wrote the cover story. jonathan, great to have you with us. it is a fascinating read. you start from your own experience in your 40s, where you say you had every reason to be happy, but you weren't. and then how you are much happier now in your 50s, and in that process in those years one thing you discovered was all of this research on how happiness may be affected by age and specifically by what is called the u-curb. >> yeah. it was a mystery to me. i had the life i would have killed for when i was younger, and i couldn't feel satisfied. and then in my 50s when i actually hit some real setbacks, paradoxically the fog began to lift. i discovered this literature coming out of economics on the u-shaped happiness curve. it's not for everybody, but there's a very common pattern in
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human societies around the globe, and for that matter even in chimps that looks like there. there's a trough in middle age in life satisfaction. it just means that people feel less satisfaction in that time in life. sometimes they don't know what to do about it, and make mistakes. >> it shows that life satisfaction declines in the first decades of adulthood, and bottoms out in the 40s or 50s, and then comes on back. >> yeah, that's the most typical curve, the bottom tends to be around 45, late 40s, and starting in the 50s, satisfaction grows and grows and grows actually well into old age. >> some of it would seem like common sense. that that lower part of -- of satisfaction with life would come in middle age when you have
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more stress, ponsablety, your parents may be getting older and sick. you have kids who require a lot of your attention, and -- and drain financial resources, but i guess one of the things that doesn't seem as much like common sense is the bounce back afterwards. that you get happier as you get older. >> yeah, and this work is being done by a lot of scholars who want to find out the effective age per se, so they adjust for stuff like income, children, marital status, employment, and they tend to find the relationship between age itself and the satisfaction and it tends to bottom out in mid-life. and then as you recalibrate expectations, get wiser it appears, actually it is a medical fundamental as you get older, you get better at regulating emotions and feeling satisfied and intent, less likely to fly off of the handle
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with negative feelings and start to feel more satisfied. so if you are feeling low in your 40s. that is perfectly normal. there is nothing wrong with you. it is probably just going to go away. >> one of the interesting things was what you just talked about, the on set of wisdom, and becoming more accepting of life, and that leads to this happiness. this is a phenomenon that happens around the world, not just an american thing. >> right. and of course it's not everywhere. it's not every survey. but this research is big data research. it is based on surveys of happiness of well over a hundred countries around the world. this curve is not universal, but it is very, very common. and you see it's specially in the wealthier countries like america where people tend to be
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healthier and live longer, so they can have those more satisfying late decades in life. >> and it's not clear whether there is a biological components. you mentioned apes. and you cite that apes have a similar thing. in their mid-life they don't seem to be as content. >> yeah, this was published just last year in research facilities where people tend -- chimps and orangutans, they also found this trough. the science here is quite new, but it is plausible to think that some of this may be biologically hard wired, but it is certainly very common. >> could the numbers be skewed by something you point out in the peace, that people who are
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unhappy tend to die earlier. >> yeah, they are skewed a bit by that. people who are miserable do tend to die younger, but you can adjust for that to some extent. and the most robust findings is the tendency that people feel more satisfied as they get older. there often tends to be more of a sense of satisfaction, of living in the present. you feel less competitive. less judgmental of yourself. older brains are better at not reacting in negative emotions. they are better at calibrating so they don't fly off the handle so much. and there is evidence that age maicon tribute to actual wisdom. >> many important messages in this peace. jonathan pleasure to have you
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year. 2.8 trillion pounds of food goes uneaten. a typical american family of four throws away nearly $1,500 in edible food every year. that includes leftovers gone bad or food that spoiled because we bought too much. american food retailers also waste food. they suffer yearly in store losses amounts to 43 billion browneds. that includes restaurants serving portions that may be too large, and leftover food from buffets getting dumped at closing time. grocery store owners also tend to overorder. 49 million americans have limited or uncertain access to nutritional food. and there are solutions. charities do take surpluses from farmers, supermarkets and manufacturers, and distribute billions of pounds of food to
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america's hungry. the u.n. suggests that farmers feed food to livestock that would normally use others. some restaurants overseas have tried charging diners on extra fee for not finishing what they order. coming up from helping people get the food they need, to providing medical carefree of charge to hundreds of thousands of needy americans.
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help. a new documentary follows one group that holds health clinics free of charge to patients across the country. >> your children are sick. you have to decide whether to buy bread or take them to the doctor. >> welcome to america. >> all of these people have been here since wednesday night. >> i worked at mcdonald's for nine hours. i have had two hour's sleep since thursday night. >> i haven't been able to kiss my wife in over a year. >> i need a mammogram. >> okay. who has got number 1? >> earlier i had a chance to speak with stan brock, the founder of remote area medical and runs dozens of clinics across america every year. you might remember him as a former co-host of "wild kingdom." stan very good to have you on
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the show. let's talk about your efforts and why you felt they were necessary. your initial inspiration was because you felt people in remote parts of the world didn't have access to medical care. >> yeah, the original concept was parachuting into the jungle. but when i came to the country it became obvious there was a great need here as well. >> so now it is mostly dedicated to the united states. you still do things abroad, but most of your work is done here. >> about 90% right here in america. all over the country. >> let's look at some of what you do. you bring medical care, dental, vision care to underserved parts of the united states. and this new documentary focuses on a clinic in tennessee. let's take a look at that. ♪ >> how long has it been since
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you have had a doctor visit. >> since i was a teenager. >> i have black lung real bad. >> it is going to save my life. >> we're coming. we're on our way. >> there are such good people in this country. >> thank you all so much. >> i can actually see now. >> how can you move forward. >> it's better than anything you can do. ♪ >> so you saw people who hadn't seen doctors since they were teenagers, people who had never seen dentists. i have traveled the united states as a correspondent to some of the poorest and remote parts of the country, and i still find that to be absolutely shocking. >> you can stick a pin in the map of the united states and hold a clinic there, and people seem to come out of the woodwork, and 70% of them are there to see the dentist and eye
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doctor. in other words it's the same people for both. they can't get dental or vision when they go to the emergency room. >> so what you are finding as you say, you put a pin -- we're talking about major cities, not just remote areas. >> 2009 we did about 7,000 people at the forum in los angeles, and three or four weeks ago we did another 3,000 in seattle. so it's widespread everywhere. >> and you are doing a couple of these a month. it's a major effort. >> we do about 30 a year. not including the ones we do overseas. >> what are the stories that have touched you the most? >> like the 7-year-old boy in southwest virginia that had such terrible problems with his teeth that when he sat down with the dentist he said, if i start crying you keep pulling them
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out, because i can't stand this kind of pain. and other people that have tried to do a job like threading a needle in a machine in a factory somewhere, and couldn't pass the eyesight test, and they come to us and go back and test again and get a job. >> how can people help? >> well, we don't take any money from the government, although i might add that they have never offered any. so it's all those 5 and $10 checks that come from the public, and some foundations. and that's what has kept it going and grown now to a operation that can put umpteen doctors in place, and see 12, 1500 people a day. >> that's a massive effort you put together when you get these clinics out there, and obviously it's very important work. i'm sure many thousands of people are grateful for what you do. best of luck with this
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