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and me, and it's an important topic. i'm going to leave you with these pictures from time square in new york, and hand over to my colleague, john seigenthaler, who will continue our coverage of flashpoint ferguson and the protests tonight. i'm ali velshi. ee hi everyone, this is al jazeera america, i'm randall pinkston in new york. john seigenthaler is off. ferguson aftermath, a show of forth from missouri's governor tripling the number of national guard troops after the violence last night evidence - conflicting reports from witnesses to the shooting - what the grand jury heard. the national response. >> the problem is not just ferguson, it is american. >> searching for a way forward after protesters take to the streets caught on tape - why some
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stopped by police respond by pulling out their cellphones tonight, more than 2,000 missouri national guard troops are in ferguson, it is now almost 24 hours after the nation learnt that police officer darren wilson will not face charges for killing michael brown. last night peaceful protests were overshadowed by violence. about buildings were burnt to the ground. with more protests tonight, police are focussed on keeping order. robert ray joins us live from ferguson. at in point. can you tell how people are responding to the apparent increased police presence? >> well, you know, if you can see, they are on an active scene. you talk about ferguson burning. it's still burning. unfortunately it's still
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burning. some of the structures that they thought were out smouldered. the fire department is behind us trying to temper this. derek, if you can come over here a little bit. more trucks coming in, a different scene than last night when the fire department couldn't get into the scenarios, because the protesters, the demonstrators, not peaceful at all were firing. a gun runs off, it was too dangerous for them to come in, and the police decided the fire department needed to leave and let structures burn. we are expecting more people tonight. so far it has been peaceful. you can see this is a fluid situation in ferguson, as people try to get this under control. it's dangerous, and we are hoping that tonight is not full of what we saw last night. >> have you seen, yourself, an indication of increased law enforcement presence on the streets, more than you saw last night. not around the police station, but in other parts of the city? >> i have.
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let me just give you a glimpse of what we are seeing, if i could. let's make our way through if we can. you can point your camera over there to the street. that's west florissant. last night, a mile and a half, where a lot of violence occurred that, is blocked off. it's an active scrim scene, they are blocking off a lot of sections of the town, so some of these protesters don't come in. this police officer telling us to move right now. you see how actives. -- active it is. no problem, sir, as long as we stay back. the police presence is heavy. 2,000 national guards on the street in case we see a repeat of last night. interestingly enough, as we heard. the mayor came out, and the governor and the police department and they thought they
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did all they could. it's an interesting statement, confirming that people came out on the street. took over ferguson and lit it on fire. i'm not sure that nothing could change. >> there are protests taking place around the country. large crowds taking to the streets in new york city. protesters marching down broadway, blocking traffic. police say they have only arrested a few people in manhattan since the protest began. last night causing gridlock. police say they can stay as long as they wish. they are protesting the shooting of a 12-year-old boy over the weekend. at stanford university, 200,000 gathered to express anger. police redirected traffic. president obama is in chicago to promote his immigration plan, but took time out to address the
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situation in ferguson, missouri. >> if any part of the american community doesn't feel welcomed or treated fairly, that is something that puts all of us at risk. and we all have to be concerned about it. so my message to those people who are constructively moving forward, trying to organise, mobilize and ask hard important questions about how we improve the situation, i want all those folks to know that their president is going to work with them. >> back in ferguson. the increased national guard presence tonight was ordered by missouri governor jay nixon, but some say the order came a day too late. diane eastabrook is live. >> the 700 national guards men on the ground were to protect infrastructure, vital
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facilities, but a lot of the businesses on south florissant said they should have been here to protect them from looters. >> reporter: in ferguson tuesday morning neighbour helps neighbour. they swept up shattered glass. >> do you need a hand? >> and boarded up windows, brokening considering monday night's violence. the restaurant owner was overwhelmed by support. >> people locked arms and stood in front and blocked the restaurant. >> jenkins and his wife own kathy's kitchen and another restaurant they hope to open in the springment both were damaged. jenkins says law enforcement let him down. >> when you listen on the news and to the governor, you expect the national guard. i expected the police and them to work together to have better protection. they told us that they would protect all the business and everything that was around here. >> at least a dozen businesses along west and south florissant
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avenue were destroyed. smoke billowed from the rubble of a cosmetics store and cell phone stop. >> we've been begging for protection from the beginning. >> this woman is a volunteer for a nonprofit, promoting ferguson, and is outraged by the violence, and says the governor, and the national guard dropped the ball. >> the business is the blood of the community. when they take the businesses down, what do they expect. they will not have jobs. we'll leave. >> missouri governor jay nixon responded, promising 1500 additional national guard droops. -- troops. >> live and property must be protected. >> they are committed to ferguson. >> if i'm the only one here, brick by brick, i will open it. it will take more than a few rocks and sticks to stop me doing what i have to do. >> he hopes his community is committed to him. many of those national guard men
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assembled across the street from me in front of the police and fire departments waiting for anything that may happen. we heard chanting from protesters, so far everything is quiet on the streets of ferguson, along south florissant avenue. >> thank you for the report. hopefully tonight things will be calmer and peaceful st louis prosecutors released more than 4,000 pages of testimony saying that the process was fair, including documents, key testimony from officer darren wilson. we hear more about that from correspondent jonathan betz. >> the officer's testimony was critical. darren wilson said he feared for his life as he faced a larger man who refused to cooperate. >> bruises on officer darren wilson's face and head. evidence, he said, of a struggle against michael brown. the ferguson officer described to the grand jury a fight for
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his life. as he confronted an 18-year-old an inch taller and 80 pounds heavy. after stopping a teen, darren wilson said the young man wouldn't let him out of the car and said: line lip the officer was not carrying a taser and said he couldn't reach his mace. he said they struggled over the gun. the teen taunted him. from inside the car, the 8 year veteran fired twice, once in the door, the other hit the teen in the hand. jurors' saw brown's blood on the officer's uniform. the 18-year-old ran, and the officer followed. wilson said the unarmed teenager stopped and turned towards him:
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the first step is coming towards me. wilson said he fired, and the officer recalled brown looked like he was bulking up to run through the shots. like he was making him mad: sh darren wilson said brown was about 10 feet away during the final shots. anger was fed by reports that brown had his hands up. accounts differed. some said brown ran to the officer. another insisted he was not charging him, he was defenseless, hands up, trying to stay on his feet:. >> some described his hand as being out to his side. some said in front of him with palms up. >> reporter: after days of testimony, 60 witnesses and 4,000 pages of documents, the grand jury decided not to charge the officer.
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enraging protesters, devastating brown's family. >> we object loudly as we can on behalf of michael brown junior's family that this process is broken. >> the prosecutor insisted that the process was fair and jurors saw everything. yet brown's family attorney said prosecutors never challenged wilson's testimony. >> thank you. attorney robert tarver junior is a criminal defense attorney, but served as a prosecutor. let's get to that first point that jonathan closed his piece with, which is that the prosecutor decided to present everything in an effort to be fair. as a concept, as a prosecutor, what do you think of that? >> it's all about concept. this grand jury sat for four
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month, they heard criminal cases, heard a prosecutor come in and present them in a certain format. he wasn't giving them everything, but leading them in a direction. after the fourth month they have this case where they're getting everything. there's a difference. i am sure they picked up on it and had a different mode of analysis. if you don't tell them what to do, they won't know what to do or how to do it. >> with respect to the idea that the grand jury was making the decision, where is the weakness in that assertion by the prosecutor. >> no less than the supreme court says the grand jury is the prosecutor's playground. that is what happens here. the prosecutor decided that he was going to use the grand jury in my mind as political cover. when you throw everything at the grand jury, and you let it all go. you don't set a context as to where certain testimony fits,
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what weight you could give certain testimony, and how you analyse it, the grand jury has no choice but to say we can't do anything with it. that's what they call punting. >> what did you find surprising about the evidence seen by the grand jury. >> wilson's testimony in and of itself. here is a gentleman who had eight weeks in which to prepare his testimony. in most cases - if there's a shooting where an officer is involved, he's brought in with his representative and they give a statement. they discuss the case, and that is the initial statement. here darren wilson did not do that. the time he testified in front of the grand jury was the first time he testified and that means he had months to shape his testimony. it shows in the things he said. when you talk about the characterisation of michael brown. >> the incredible hulk. i thought i was going to die. i was like - what did he say -
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man in a boy. that's painting a picture for the grand jury. and they only have to decide whether or not the effort are reasonable. if you tell me that the incredible hulk is coming after you, it's reasonable to use force. >> i heard you say you did not think there would be an indictment given the way the case was handled. could there have been an indictment had it been presented in a different wap. >> i believe so. let me tell you why? there's enough objective witnesses that saw things - first and foremost we are talking about nine shots. is it reasonable. nine shots that went into this gentleman, and 12 shots emptied from the gun. an entire clip from the gun. you have to ask yourself whether or not that was reasonable. >> you look at the officer's face. he talks about the confrontation struck blows so hard he thought they may be fatal.
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they don't match up with the pictures, the objective evidence that we see. >> the objective evidence doesn't necessarily bear out officer wilson's testimony. that's the problem. >> there was no one in the grand jury to question his association, except the prosecution. >> yes. and they give him a soft-ball pass. they ask open-ended questions, allowing him to supply the information that he needed to supply. he knew the standards. he knew what he had to show - active reasonableness. when you want -- paint those pictures, you look more reasonable than the people you are against. >> we'll ask you many for questions and hope you return to share your insight although darren wilson was not indicted by the grand jury, he is not in the clear, neither is the ferguson police department. lisa stark joins us from the white house with more. >> well soon after the shooting of unarmed teenager michael
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brown, the department of justice opened its own investigation into whether the officer who shot brown violated his civil rights. they began investigating the ferguson police department itself. now, today, attorney general eric holder, the u.s. attorney-general said that those investigations condition, and he promised they would be independent and thorough. >> as demonstrators, some violently, protested against a decision not to indict officer darren wilson, others were looking ahead to the next chapter, the u.s. department investigation into the killing of michael brown. >> we are going to hold out hope that at some point justice will be served. >> the justice department has two investigations under way. one examining whether officer darren wilson violated brown's civil right. the other a broader look at the ferguson police department as a whole, and whether the predominantly white department
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exhibits a pattern of discrimination or force, a pattern of violating the civil rights of ferguson's residents, the majority of whom are black. >> they'll be conducted rigorously and in a timely manner so we can move forward as expeditiously as we can to restore trust, rebuild understanding and foster cooperation between law enforcement. >> the tougher case to bring will be the one against the officer. the department of justice will have to prove that officer wilson intended to violate brown's civil rights. >> they'll look for anything that is unusual in his actions, that would not be the normal course of actions that an officer would have taken. as for the investigation into the ferguson police department. barbara calls that a slam dunk. i say - i say we will see a finding of abuse. a violation of the civil rights laws. the question will be what is the
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remedy. what will the justice department do. >> it was a violent police meeting of rodney king that helped the league congress to pass a law. to vet the police department to investigate civil rights violations to order the departments to change their practices. justice vetted 20 police departments in the past five years. ferguson joins the list. >> there's a chance that the civil investigation will bring about broad-based reforms to the police department. >> and those reforms are usually negotiated with the police department. they can include everything from a change in hiring practice to a change in training, even a change in procedures on the use of force thank you. lisa stark at the white house. >> hubert williams served as police director of newark and
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jersey and advisor to the los angeles police department during the 1992 rodney king riots and joins us from baltimore. thank you for joining us. a first question about last night's disturbances. given the amount of time that the ferguson authorities and the missouri authorities had to prepare, do you think they should have known that something of this sort was going to happen, and perhaps prepared for it better? >> you can't say they should have known it. they should have anticipated the potential for it happening. those demonstrations have been going on night after night after night and it's unreasonable to anticipate that a grand jury finding would result in explosion of emotions that could be violent. that's what we saw. this is not happening in a blank page. we have history here. the whole decade of the '60s,
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where riots occurred. when they do happen, it shapes emotions and impacts people on the united states. there's people in baltimore, huge demonstrations downtown and other cities across the country that have the same thing. police departments learnt a lot in the past several decades. they trade to work with the community, recognising that it's important for the police to get community partnerships in effort to deal with crime control. you can't do that when you roll a tank into the community and all these heavy weapons, without real justification for that. and ferguson hurt itself, i believe, when they brought all the heavy armory in there. >> sorry to interrupt you, i don't want to time to expire, there's a fewer other questions, what you are talking about is in the aftermath r math of the
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murders. -- aftermath of the murders. i want to focus a little on what happened last night. >> okay, go ahead. >> when we on tv saw the police car shaken by demonstrators, when we saw the first fire set. if you had been in command there, what would have been your response. let's assume you did not have the officers already on the streets, and making sure that people couldn't get to those establishments, if you had been in command, what should have been, what would have been your response last night? >> well, the first thing that the police leadership should have done is anticipate the participation for violence. they should have done that. the second thing they should have done in recognition of this potential is they should have interacted within the community, with leadership that is religious leaders, community based leaders. they should have found a way to work with the community to try to abate the potential, which i don't know whether they did that or not. clearly it doesn't appear they
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did. >> what about at the point where the actions take place. should the national guard be moved from where they were, should state police officers, troopers taken off the streets. should they have been cordoned off. i'm asking for tactical reasons. >> it's clear to me, the moment you burn buildings and put the lives and safety of community in jeopardy, that the city and the state have a duty to provide the police services to abate that. that means both the mayor and the governor. the question of when they sent the national guard this is a huge question. my sense is the governor figured he didn't want to be provocative and didn't send them in early enough. >> if you talk to people that have experience, dealing with civil disorders, they will tell you that having the resources readily available, that if something does occur is a critical piece of the puzzle.
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apparently they didn't do it in ferguson. >> we see a greater presence of authorities on the streets. so far things are relatively quite. we have live pictures from boston massachusetts, where hundreds of protesters are out. it's part of a nationwide demonstration, but only in ferguson have we seen the violence. what is the next step? >> let me say this to you. >> yes, sir. >> there's a reason why you have this emotion and this passion being reflected in city after city across the country. it is that young african-americans feel threatened by the police in the way the police are operating in some of these neighbourhoods. the important thing for law enforcement is for them to begin to change the way they interact with the way they live in these
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communities, so they can get support. if you don't have the public support, it's difficult to deal with crime control. with the civil disruption, disorders, burning buildings and stuff like that, the police have no choice but to protect the community and the residents. >> director williams... >> and they should have gotten their officers in there the moment they reach the high level. >> hoouk ert williams, former new york police inspector, hopefully they'll listen to the advice given and going forward. we'll see a reduction in any kind of violence at all. thank you for joining us on al jazeera america. >> thank you for inviting me. >> next, families torn apart from deportations. what they hope president obama's policies will accomplish. and the fight to save one of the last affordable places to live in the heart of silicon valley.
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the north-east bracing for a snow storm, hitting on one of the busiest travel days of the year. meteorologist kevin corriveau is here with more. we knew it was coming. >> we did. we didn't know it would be this bad. the mechanisms putting this into motion are more significant. you can see the storm here off the carolinas. that will be pushing up the eastern seaboard tonight and tomorrow, and heavy rain across virgin. as it makes the way up, the rain turns to snow. these are the warnings from virginia to main. it will start in the morning towards philadelphia, and then ease up towards the north. so the rain in new york will switch over about noon or 2 o'clock. philadelphia 4 inches potentially. new york at five. portland maine, 10 inches of snow. if you have travel plans it will
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be worse later in the day. on the road it will be dangerous if you are travelling in the evening. back to you. >> thanks, a leading contender to become the next secretary of defense seems to have taken herself out of the running. the head for the center of new american security told the board of directors that she will remain as c.e.o. and asked president obama to take her out of running. she would have been the first woman to become defense secretary had she been confirmed. chuck hagel announced his resignation from the post on monday. next - more to prevent a second night of violence in ferguson, missouri, and why many people are taping their encounters with police, and the risks they take by doing
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welcome back to al jazeera
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america i'm randall pinkston. john seigenthaler is off. coming up, the latest on the rallies and the police response in ferguson, missouri. record keeping, why many are pulling out their cellphones when stopped by the police. and economic divide. how california's tech boom is turning into a bust for some silicon valley residents more than 2,000 national guard groups converged an ferguson, missouri. protests and violence erupted after a grand jury decided not to charge darren wilson in the fatal shooting of michael brown. the unrest ended when several businesses burnt to the ground. more than 60 were arrested of the robert ray joins us live. compared to last night what, is the situation now? >> well, so far it's quiet.
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as you saw 30 minutes ago, buildings are still smouldering. this is one of them, unfortunately, and you can see literally the bricks of this building reduced to rubble as the fires are smouldering and the fire department is trying to take care of this as they await potential protesters hitting the streets. ray sumner joins me - come over here, if you could. he manages a lot of buildings. you manage this building here, that is in complete destruction. you just called the fire department about 35 minutes ago as the fire started up again. >> yes, i did. >> what has this been like for you over the course of the past three months? >> well, the owner of the property - this is not the only property they damaged. it keeps me busy to maintain and work on all the properties. it's frustrating because he puts a lot of people to work, a lot of - he opens a lot of businesses, he puts a lot of people to work.
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how many times can you come from this, after thousands and thousands of dollars. >> this building, which is a total loss. this beauty salon is a complete loss - they had 150,000 worth of damage this past august during the initial looting, and now it's gone. and you had the fire department spray down the other buildings so they did not reignite. how frustrating is this to see the community go down like this. >> last night i said at my house - i put a lot of work into the building to watch all the work go down the tubes, because they seem to be coming from ferguson, and they are pushing it out. they are not protecting the business like they say they do, but when i feel the place on fire it breaks my heart. i know the people that went through the last three months, of building it back up, to have it happen again. here is the thing, ray, people
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working in the businesses, now we are on the holidays. they have people to feed. they don't have a job. >> that's right. they employ a lot of people, they are out of work. let alone the rest of the community, and some of these people are not going to be able to come back, not just here, but there's at least 24 businesses that were fired on last night with fire, do you know what i'm saying. that's a lot of people out of work, let alone what is already out there, and they are already complaining there's not enough jobs. >> thank you, appreciate you joining us. random, -- randall, that's a snippet of this story, a microcosm of what is happening on the ground in ferguson. it shows you the acts of a few trickles down. what that causes for so many people, all of these people out of a job, who have the businesses, and nowhey are
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destroyed as the holidays approach, and they were trying to have a peaceful outcome as the community has been through hell. >> robert ray, reporting live from ferguson, missouri. we'll check in with you later darren wilson broke his silence about the shooting in an interview with a.b.bc news, telg george stephanopolous that he was doing his job and described what happened when he got out the patrol car. >> i gave myself a question "can i shoot the guy?" legally can i. my answer was i have to, he'll get to me, he'll kill me. >> even 30-40 feet away. >> once he's coming that direction, if he hasn't stopped yet, when is he going to stop. after he's coming at me, and i decided to shoot i fired a series of shots and pause. >> what did you see. >> i saw one hit him.
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i don't know where. i saw his body flinch. after that i paused. giving him the opportunity to stop. and he ignored all the commands and kept running. after he ran again. i shot another series of shots. this time he's about 15 feet away. i start to back pedal. he's too close. he gets to 8-10 feet. he'll tackle me and i look down the barrel of my gun and i fired. the grand jury decision in ferguson, missouri is reaching behind the city. protests broke out. more under way tonight. allen schauffler joining us live from seattle. >> we have seen marches, protests, rallies all over the country today. let's look at one of the ones going on right now. let's go to boston and look at a
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video. the southern part of the city. it's a deadly square. most of the rallies and marches, very well attended, loud and vocal. for the most part, peace. including here in seattle. >> at the seattle intersection where a crowd went silence staging a sit in, it was business as usual, no sign of the protest leading to five arrests, but little property taj. in oakland california, the after math of rage. customers find their latas at a boarded up shop. at this phone shop, not ooep a charmer was left behind. >> it's a shame people resort to violence to get their message across. there's a lot of ways to get your message out there without
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destroying stuff. tearing up your own neighbourhood doesn't make sense. >> reporter: at event around the country, the talk is about peaceful process and responsible change. >> we are not going to use michael brown's name in vein. we are not going to misuse hits name in the name of violence and looting. we condemn those out there in a violent way. >> in blooming tonne indiana, law school students gather for 4.5 minutes of silence, representing the 4.5 hours that michael brown's body lay in the street in ferguson. at morgan state university, black clad protesters block traffic on a street near campus. in minneapolis high school student take to the street. the same team spirit shows, more students getting life lessons. in the heavy african-american districts church leaders gather for a march to the federal court
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house. organizers call for calm, urging the crowd to keep the energy up, and the hope for an uneventful day comes with a caution. >> when have you seen a revolution without violence. it's difficult to say what everywhere is going to do. i'm not saying that everyone should participate in actively destroying things. i also belief they are fighting for democracy. i don't see it as rioting. i believe they are fight are for change. >> seattle press were in force. a lot of bicycle patrollers and squad cars shadowing the march. i just got a call from the department spokesperson, telling me that there were no arrests, no confrontations, no dramatic property damage of any kind. >> thank you allen schauffler in seattle. >> this morning the brown family and representatives addressed the media. their attorney alongside al
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sharpton spoke on behalf of spratt -- lesley mcspadden, and michael brown senior. >> a first year law student would have done a better job of cross-examining the killer of an unarmed person than the prosecutor's office did. [ clapping ] i mean, where was his voracity challenged in where was his credibility challenged when you watch the four hours that he got give his speech to this grand jury. what is the purpose of mr robert mcculloch trying to undermine the credibility of the witnesses, undermine the credibility of the victim, still has not explained to us how you have a man on the force that
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feels like he's a child up against hulk hogan. so what kind of training and policing do you do. >> ferguson mayor james knowles spoke earlier about what happens next for darren wilson. >> no decision has been made. his current employment status remains, he's on administrative leave pending the outcome of an internal investigation. that's a personnel matter, obviously not up for discussion. >> james white is a blogger and founder of this week in blackness, and, of course, this past 48 hours gives you much to block about, mr james. first question, what was your response when you saw the announcement about the grand jury's decision. >> i was not shocked. i believe - i think that's the real problem with a lot of this. it is not like a shocking moment. we knew this was going to
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happen. it was that moment where you were like this is exactly what we expected. this is what we see historically, and another example of justice not being given to people of colour when they are in these situations and all of a sudden they are criminalized and put on trial when they are the ones that are unarmed and dead. what is the surprising string or chain of comments that you saw in social media in response to the decision. >> social media. it was the hurt that people were having, people were hurt, this is not just ferguson, it's a long line of things. within the past year, year and a half. we have seen a lot of cases. we saw the zimmerman trial, michael dunn trial, the people that shot alicia mcbride. we see a lot of things happening, as all of it occurs
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we see people killed. a 12-year-old shot. we see video of one young man who was shot because he was asked to reach for his licence and the cops fired at him, when he requested he reach for his licence. we see a lack of concern for a black life. and that is why you see the hashtag black lives matter. it feels like they don't care. >> you see, when you say that, the well-meaning, well-intentioned authorities, some of whom are white will say to you that's not true, you can't tell me that. they will tell you that. >> i believe they mean it. but you can't tell me that from a position of america, america which is built on violence and oppression, and it's something that we don't like to discuss a lot of times. the fact that slave labour, a genocide of people. this is a history of america. right now systematic - people
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say you can't expect justice from a system. it is clear that the system is not built for us. from slavery to jim crow, to systematic racism. we can point out numerous examples, prisons, industrial complex - all the examples of where it's specifically hurting this community and yet somehow, somehow it's not about the intent, it's about the impact. >> with respect to the history, i get that. i mean, i get that. yesterday, last night. i'm sitting there watching cars sent on fire. some of the businesses say - is there any responsibility on the part of the people who committed the actions, and to what extent does your community do something or try to interface to prevent
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that kind of rehabilitation. i do not believe this conversation will be centered around property. it's what is happening a lot. they are burning things, people are not going to be able to make money. that is sad. what else is sad is my mum should never reach for the bus pass. if they do, i could be shot and killed by the people supposed to protect mean. at the same time i told people i wanted a water gun. my mum it "don't do that, you can die." this past weekend a child died with a fake gun. all the while the n.r.a. is pushing guns. yes. and they are teaching kids that black kids can't have a toy gun without being shot at. i'm shore i can't center the conversation around people seeking humanity, and them
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saying no, forget that. let's talk about the property. i'm not going to do it. it's disingenuous of the media to focus on that and show the pictures and say look at this, it's burning. how can they do that to the community. >> and themselves. >> and do you say why don't we joke about what got us to this point. yesterday - no one was burning anything down. yet again america shows itself to be an enemy of this community. i'm talking about people of colour. people want to yell about why do you have to be black. why do you need a qualifier. look at what it happening now. this is why. >> on your block site or twitter account there's a white person that feels - it's a quote from a white person. as a white person who felt uncomfortable, they ask how it feels to be black: sh
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that's what you told that. >> i was telling white people that. >> why did you say that. there are some people who won't understand or emphasise because they may understand the jury was wrong. they can't countance or understand the reaction. >> so, first of all, let me frame that quote. that was after - someone explained to me i had said that, my child - i worry for my child. i know that i'm going to have to have the conversation. someone is like - it's not about colour. you raise the colour to be good. that's not the conversation to be having today. i said this as a blanket statement. by the way, i had said before some white folks, and we have to qualify - we have to say some white folks, you talk about everybody - do you think everybody, everyone doesn't fall far from the world. i don't understand how you have
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to deal with that. we are not in the same boat. you cannot understand what is happening. there's a privilege you have. a white person in general. you move through the world in a way that i could never move through the world. >> thank you for share the conversation. >> african-american teenagers stopped by police at higher rates than white teens. many black families suggest their kids take action by recording the encounters. jacob ward is live in san francisco with more on this. >> it's an unimaginable thing to consider, the idea that you would record the police while you are sitting in the darkened car with them holding the licence. that's what some african-american families are asking their teenagers to consider. >> reporter: in the two years he's been driving, this boy has been pulled over more than seven times, twice has it been for a
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discernible reason. >> he and his father are telling me that it doesn't make sense. >> i'm in school, i have two jobs, i have recently moved out to my own place. so i feel line, you know, i'm doing the best i can, from my age or whatever. i've had the last person ask me did you steal the car. he asked that question. this is the normal traffic. why are you asking me that? >> you are telling me he's arresting me. >> african-american americans are more likely than whites to be pulled over by the police for stops that are intended not to ticket drivers. african-american males under the age of 25 are as much as three times more likely to be pulled over than their counterparts. john burize, a member of rode king's team said it can make the difference in court. >> when cellphones came out
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years ago, i, myself used a cell phone when i was stopped. i would have somebody on the phone, i'd tell my wife i've been stopped by a cop, a police officer, and i hold it up, let it sit there. >> a passer-by can record anything. san francisco has policies in place about the rights of onlookers to record the police. >> you're at a safe distance. the officer shows us what he considers the proper distance. >> if i cross over. >> if you approach he... >> that's too close, i have to deal with you. >> reporter: how and when should a driver go for his phone. the issue is so knew, no clear legal guidelines have been established. it's up to the officer in question. >> if the situation is calm, and you want to record it, absolutely. you can do so by holding your phone with your hands visible. >> my phone is in my pocket, officer i'd line to record this encounter if that's okay. >> the officer can look to make
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sure there's no weapon. >> reporter: even in cases where reaching for a phone doesn't cause an officer to go for his gun, the phone, itself, can become a target. >> i have not done anything. >> at what point can you take away the phone. >> if a person is arrested or cited for interference, if there's any evidence, then we could - you know, we can request or seize it. >> the mubaraks are not certain what they should do. >> i've kind of left the it up to him. >> i looked at different option, if i was to reported i'd probably put a hidden camera in my car. again, because it's not a set law they can do what they want. >> it's really a key point there at the end. what is being pointed out is true, that the laws around this are entirely ad hoc. most police departments don't have regulations on the books for whether people they have
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traffic stop or in custody are allowed to then record them in that process. yet this is happening at a time when this evidence is absolutely crucial in the court. so there's an imbalance here that will need to be rited in some way. >> seems like the solution of making sure the camera - it was surreptitious and triggered before the officers gets to the car, because you have to show your hands. >> next - the growing disparity in silicon valley between the haves, and the have
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tomorrow, most of the north-east is dealing with the rain turning to snow. the rest of the united states is not looking too bad. we'll see light snow showers from minneapolis down to iowa. if you have travel plans from a major city from the airport going to the north-east. you may see a hold on the ground
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until continues get better to the north-east. even though the weather is fine, it could be a problem if you are travelling up here. for thanksgiving it's not looking too bad. you'll see most of the rain. it will be very cold on thanksgiving, only seeing a high of 16 degrees. chicago 28 degrees. miami, a little cooler for you. as we go towards black friday. we'll see temperatures warm up. look at denver, 65 degrees, and houston 25 degrees. we'll look at the next big flying day, travel day on sunday. and most of the north-east will be fine, we'll see san francisco with a lot of rain and up towards parts of montreal, and idaho. that is a look at the weather. more news after this.
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the tech boom created a real estate boom in northern california, some residents are fighting to stay, saying there's more at stake than a roof over their heads. >> poolo, california, the heart of silicon valley, where tech millionaires live and home to stanford university. in the middle of it all sits a mobile home park. one of the last places left providing affordable housing in a stay this is rich from the tech boom. now a developer offered the owner millions to build luxury
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apartment here for the valley's workforce. it will displace the counter residence. >> if this place from to close, i don't know where it will go. i don't know where 90% of it goes. they work in tech, but not as venture engineers. they are the gardeners, housekeepers, cooks and nanies. they benefited from the same economic growth, they have become the earliest casualties. for years they survive by paying under $1,000 for rent a month, where the median home price is under $2 million. >> one mobile home park has 400 low income residents, many hispanic. they want to stay here, because they have one of the best school districts in the state. for this family, the school distribute has been transformative. erica leads the community battle against the eviction and says
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it's more about access to education than the reality wrangle. >> my parents came from mexico. we grew up here mostly. and i was the first one to graduate from college and my family. >> the value of diversity has not been lost. some of whom have joined the fight. >> the risk of the prosperity is we lose the diversity in the range of families. the residents have turned this into a league at fight, and offered to buy the property as a collective. >> these communicates will never come back. everyone loses. the property owners would not speak to al jazeera. the attorney pointed out that private landowners have the right to sell their own real
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estate. something acknowledged as they face an uncertainly future with their families. >> and tonight more than 2200 national guard troops are in place. coming up, crews are on the ground at st louis area police, trying to avoid a second night of violence. there are reports of some arrest. that's tonight at 11 eastern. now, our picture of the day. tonight's freeze frame is an image of the aftermath of destruction in ferguson, a firefighter shows the damage after 20 were set on fire. firefighters were chased away. "america tonight" with joie chen is next with more about ferguson.
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on "america tonight", our special coverage of ferguson, and the way forward. a community shaken by the grand jury's decision, and a mother's grief. >> they are wrong. i know you are wrong. >> tonight - a closer look at what the grand jury heard and saw in weeks of testimony, and why it decided the way it d. >> no probable cause exists to file any charge against darren wilson in return to a no true billion each of the five indictments. >> that is not justice.