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the blacks and latinos came together, worked side by side, to meet in the middle. >> i'm randall pinkston in new york. john seigenthaler has the night off. for most of the night it's been relatively calm. that changed moments ago. a crowd overturned the police car, setting fire to it outside city hall. tonight the protests spread across the country. thousands in dozens of cities marching peacefully in solidarity over the grand jury's decision not to indict a police officer in the killing of
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unarmed teen michael brown. violent protests led to buildings being burnt to the ground. >> the national guard presence will be ramped up significantly. in ferguson, and ensuring that they are ready to act quickly to prevent violence. >> darren wilson broke his silence about the shooting. >> can i shoot this guys, you know, legally can i? >> and the question i answered was "i have to. if i don't, he'll kill me if he gets to me." >> the brown family is devastated about the decision, reverend al sharpton on the families behalf. >> you have a man on the force that feels like he's a child against hulk hogan. so what kind of string and policing do you do robert ray is at the
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location where a police car was tipped over. what's the situation there? >> we just got over here. we saw the crowd. the police car is the one they tipped over. they put the fire out. pardon me for holding this suitcase looking device. this is how we are transmitting the police back to you in new york. the situation is peaceful, up until about 10 minutes ago when the crowd took off running. as you can see, that cop car was on its back that turned it over. it was on fire. let's go back up here. we have armoured vehicles. if you turn to your left, they are coming in now. if you can turn. our signals are a little weak. actually, we have a barrage of armed state patrol men, coming
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in right now. you can see this is a very fluid situation as it was peaceful, and all of a sudden it's turned into a little bit of chaos out here. amnesty international is on the ground watching to make sure everything is smooth, and they are taking notes of everything. you can hear them saying step back to some of the protesters. >> announcer: get out of the street. >> we are moving, thank you. randall, do you have me. >> we can hear you loud and clear. seems as if the authorities... >> do you have me. >> i hear you loud and clear. seems the authorities are responding a lot faster to situations tonight than they were last night. more on the scene there. well, they are being more aggressive than they should be, it's a situation where, you know, last night the town was taken over, and part of it was
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burnt. we heard a lot of gun fire and clearly they are not going to let that happen tonight as this goes on, we are trying to figure out exactly, you know, who the instigators were. it was peaceful where we were. everything seemed to be okay. there was no clashes, and all of a sudden the crowd ran, clearly provocateurs out here that decided... >> he's lying. >> how am i lying, tell me, fill us in? >> there's no one out here agitating. the cops come out, starting their shit. >> how about when someone turps over a police car. ? >> how about when a young kid dies. >> okay. what's the reasoning for - to be out here tonight? >> out here to show the police are wrapped in their own mind with their powers, that shit needs to change. >> no reason for the language, but thank you. >> thank you robert ray.
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fluid scene. we'll keep watch, you will, throughout the night here on al jazeera. >> there are protests under way in other cities across the country. in many cases demonstrators are getting messages across by shutting down major roadways. jonathan betz is here with that. anger is being felt across the country. large protests are seen across the country. [ chanting ] >> hundreds of parts of new york city brought parts to new york city. marching at this hour. >> at one point demonstrators rallied, trying to block thelingon tunnel. earlier they stopped traffic on fdr drive, causing gridlock for miles. there has been a few clashes and arrests. dramatic video shows a car
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ploughing through a protest. it was caught up in a crowd rally. it drives through. it stops briefly, as the ground swarms, it takes off, hitting and dragging more people. one woman was taken to hospital with minor injuries. the driver is reportedly cooperating with police. [ chants ] . >> a protest shutting down cleveland, upset about the michael brown case and a 12-year-old boy shot and killed by clealand police officer over the weekend. in washington d.c., reports of up to 1,000 protesting there. they started at mt vernon square and marked by landmarks including the capital building and the white house.
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parts of downtown l.a. are shut down. hundreds are marching through the streets. most of the protests remained peaceful tonight. many are demanding justice. his shooting may have happened in ferguson. tension was felt in many places between officers and the public they are supposed to protect. >> the police presence was ordered by missouri governor jay nixon, but some say the order came a day too late. diane eastabrook joins us from another location in ferguson, not quite where they left robert ray. what's the situation where you are? >> well, actually, i'm across from the police department and the fire department, and it's been pretty quiet here tonight. there has been about 15 national guardsman backing up the police department that's been out here meeting protesters. there were about 1,000 protesters and things turned
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violent quickly after it was announced that darren wilson would not be indicted. tonight there has been between 100 and 200 protesters and media out here as well. it's been quiet, there has been back and forth between the police and the protesters. the protesters wandered out in the streets. police asked them to get back on the sidewalk. there has been a confrontation. there has been a couple of rests. for the most part it's been quiet. in fact, within the last 10-15 minutes a lot of the crowd dispersed and moved north to where the police vehicle was turned over and lit on fire. more excitement up that way. a lot of the crowd has dispersed and gone north. it's quieter here now than a couple of hours ago. >> you spoke with several business owners in ferguson. how are they feeling about the situation there? >> i think they are feeling better tonight that we have the
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additional police presence. one of the thing they were frustrated about last night is the fact that the weeks leading up to the announcement, the governor mentioned - the governor had been saying that there was a plan in place, that the priority was to protect resident, businesses and property. and last night we saw a violent breakout on west south florissant avenue. some of the businesses didn't board up, they expected the businesses to be protected. that didn't happen. there was frustration. they wanted to know where the national guard was. 700 guardsmen were brought in to back up and protect infrastructure, not businesses. there were frustration there. probably feeling a lot better that we are seeing the 1500 guardsmen on the ground around ferguson. >> thank you, diane eastabrook reporting live from ferguson corey pegues is a former new york police department inspector. glen martin is founder of just
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leadership u.s.a. advocating for criminal justice reform. they founded the organization after serving six years as app inmate in new york state prison. you, as all of america - much of america watched last night as the situation went from people standing outside waiting for the decision of the grand jury, to cars being overturned, fires, businesses - if you had been in command, or had the ear of those who were, what would have been your advice about how they should have handled what many had predicted would possibly happen? >> well, the first thing i would have done was preplan. you have to be about it, not just talk about it. we heard for weeks we got to preplan. we have to train the people, got 1,000 cops. emergency measures. >> it didn't come - to me, personally, it's almost as if
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now the governor should be put up for impeachment. this is the most important decision he has as his governorship. we knew if a verdict came down not of an indictment. there'll be chaos, where is the national guard. not only is it one day too late as 12 businesses burnt down, 2-3 police cars, and there's a lot of people injured, and i understand there was a young man found dead in the street last night in all the chaos, and so on. you have to preplan for these things. national guard, the boots should have been on the streets immediately. there was police officers, every cop available should have been working. the other thing is, randall, the people must protest, you have to let them protest, but you have to give them space. >> let me ask you this. some argued that a reason things got out of control is because the police - the authorities were trying not to overreact as they did in the days after the
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death of michael brown when they were out in riot gear and tanks and aiming automatic weapons at protesters. they did want to overreact for fear of criticism. do you buy that? >> i don't buy that? who are we working for, the people or the people that's complaining. you would have had overzealous police officers last night with tanks out there, no one is dead. i'm not advocating to bring the military op, but you need boots on the ground, more than what they had. you don't have to bring the tanks. the national guard should have been out there not only to protect the infrastructures, but the business owners. you told the business owners you would protect them, the residents that you'd protect the case it was a mockery of police to have the people come in and burn this place down. it's not fair. not only to the michael brown family, but the residents of that small town.
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it's almost as if in your mind, was this preplanned, where they said hey, if they want to us back up, we'll back up for one day, let them burn it down and come in the next day and shut it down. >> that's too cynical. >> hey, listen, they knew something was going to happen. >> mr martin, i see you smiling. what do you think? >> i think we've gone too far with the militarization of the police department. look at the officers out there, they were dressed for battle. we thing about crime. we know that it's often a very small number of people causing the most mischief. in that situation that's what we saw. the police response was, i think, heavy-handed. there was a lot of tear gas. yes, the state police could have been called in to help. the truth is this is a result of years and years of neglect of a community that has been clear
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about mistreatment by the police department. my biggest worry is while the individual case is important. while this is about mike brown, it's about dean brown in america. it's a larger story and i'm wonder if if it's a story about violence, rage, revenge that don't speak to the largest percentage images. >> we are watching the situation on the ground. there appears to be some protesters in the middle of the street. can't tell anything else about that. so what i would like for you to speak to, however, glen martin, is this? what do you do about the handful of people who were not just bent on raising their voices, demanding their anger and objection to the system, but taking it on themselves to destroy property. what is that a manifestation of. what does it accomplish. anger, yes.
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frustration, yes. determination to do something to change things. yes. >> burning a building? >> i think it's a valid question and police officers have to do the jobs that police officers have to do. people break the law. however, again, we need to pull the lense back and realise if we were as passionate about a young black man on his back with the police officers, as we are about a police car on its back, i think that we would see the change that we see in america, the same passion that we see now, around the fact that there's no indictment. i would like to see it more sustainable the the people engaged in violence are diminishing the chances of this being a meaningful discussion. that's where we need to end up as a country. >> by now you have a chance to look at if not read most of the document that was released by the grand jury, an unusual action. based on what you know about the actions of officer - the officer
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darren wilson, and your police training as a commander, what do you say about what he decided to do in those 90 seconds? >> well, one of the first things - he did get the radio call saying there were these two gentlemen. that's what we know. he knew they had committed a crime. they gave a description. did he call for backup and wait for it to come. if he was afraid of hulk hogan, what he described, why didn't he step back, await for the backup to come, to do a tactical take down or lock them up. that's something i was thinking of. if he's pulling his gun out, was he behind cover. how did he let the individual get so close to him. i read part of the transcript, and at least one sergeant who was, i think, one of the first supervisory officers on the scene. that sergeant said to the
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prosecutor that darren wilson didn't know anything about the robbery. so there was obviously... >> there was a lot of conflicts, and stuff released and everywhere is talking about it. you know the sad thing is they weren't able to question - no one has questioned him. if you don't let it go to the trial, like i said on the show, the prosecutor should have gathered that information, looked at it, came down with something and give it to the jury for a trial. you have to have checks and balances. hold that thought, please, and i hope you both can hang around. we want to bring you back later. we want to go to our correspondent on the ground in ferguson, missouri. robert ray, who has - robert, can you hear me. tell us what happened to you in ferguson. and where are you. >> randall, after we had gotten off air with you 10 minutes ago,
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we were trying to make our way down the block, away from the over turned vehicle, and more vehicles - armoured vehicles came in and shots ran out from somewhere in the crowd, and knocked out the window - i believe it's a state bliss control car. then tear gas went flying, we were caught in a side little alley off there. we had a cannize ter land in front of us, we are okay, tear gas is no serious sting. we are itching and trying to feel a bit better. but it was about as hostile as i have seen since i have covered this in august. tense and scary. when the tear gas was deployed, you couldn't see where you were going, and there were mobs of demonstrators and media running through a thick cloud of smoke trying to get into a place - a safe place where we could get
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out of the danger zone. as we ran re heard the pops behind us. we are now about three blocks away from there, back at the ferguson police department where everything is very quiet, and the national guard is lined up. the protest juniors don't seem to be -- protesters don't seem to be coming back if hoard. >> did you see a woman taken down on the ground and taken away? do you know if it was an officer? >> i did not see that. from my perspective i was not able to see that. >> i noticed that the canine units are present and sirens. can you hear the sirens? >> no, i cannot. i'm 3-4 blocks away. i see a chopper hovering above us, shining the light on the situation we were at. no, i do not hear the sirens. there was a lot of tactical response. >> my error. we had a strap, a super put up.
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that came from earlier tonight. obviously pretty heavy present. obviously, also, when you have a heavy presence, you can't stop everything from happening, and so far, hopefully we haven't seen any fires or buildings and pray that we won't. >> i would hope that we do not see that again. no questions about it. things are amped up. clearly the police mean business tonight. last night they were more laid back, allowing things to happen. the thing is when you demet an environment like that, and close proximity, where there were buildings, and that many groups of demonstrators going in and tactical units, shots fired, and tear gas deployed, it's a top scenario for everyone in there. clearly very dangerous. i can only hope everyone in that
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pocket came out okay because it was not call. >> obviously no way to know the source of the gun fire. one question before going to the break. approximately - can you discern rough count how many protests out there, is it the same as you witness last night. >> where i was last night, i counted about 100, there were not that many at that point. they were dangerous clearly in what they were doing. to my count, if i had to take a crowd guesstimate, i would say 200-300 in this four or five block stretch to where the incident happened that we were involved with. >> thank you. we will check back in later. robert ray reporting live from ferguson, missouri, recuperating from encountering some tear gas. >> next on al jazeera america -
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defense if security told the board of directors that she will remain as c.e.o. and asked president obama not to consider her. chuck hagel announced his resignation from the post of secretary of defense on monday. a powerful storm is closing in. it could put a dent in holiday plans. meteorologist kevin corriveau is here with more. >> all of the rain intensifying over the past six hours, because the storm is off the coast. that'll make its way to the north. what we'll see is if we go to the airport, starting from philadelphia, baltimore, it will be rain, new york is rain. rain delays at the airport. as we go towards noon. many of the airports are switching to snow. we'll see a lot of snow. especially here, just north of
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95. some of the airports are expecting to see this now. philadelphia, 2-4 inches of snow. new york up to 5 inches. boston, six, portland main 10. isolated amounts of 14 inches of snow. travel on the roads is going to be very dangerous. you need to be careful get your plans in earlier. otherwise the travel delays will back up next, the grand jury case against darren wilson, and what he is saying about it. plus, the new way cellphones are used as protection from police.
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america. i'm randall pinkston in for john siegenthaler. coming up - law and order - there's a bigger police and nard your presence in ferguson. plus the grand jury evidence in the case against officer darren wilson. for much of the night it had been calm on the streets of ferguson. that changed half an hour ago. they set fire. earlier president obama appealed to protesters to stay peaceful. >> i messaged to those people who are moving forward. trying to organise, mobilize and ask hard, important questions. i want all to know that their president will work with them.
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>> president obama said there's no excuse for criminal activity while protesting. >> corey pegues is a former new york city police department executive. glen martin, founder of just leadership u.s.a. advocating for criminal justice reform. you have been watching the unfolding of event this second night after the release of the grand jury results. inspector, what is your take on what you witnessed in terms of how authorities are handling it as to how it handled last night? >> there's 100% difference. they activated the national guard. we talked on the break then. you have to have boots on the ground. if you don't have boots on the ground, you have to have uniform officers, national guard, soldiers, out there. let the people protest. you let them protest, and you
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have disorder teams on stand by for people throwing rocks, turning over cars. we pull them in, pull them out. cars, paddy wagons, there's a list of how you handle these situations. the main thing they need at ferguson are officer or commanders that's trained in disorder control. that's what they need. they need people that have disorder control training that know how to do this stuff. you can't grab a police department and say "those 50 cops, stop the protest", you have professional agitators burning buildings. you need people that know what they are doing, we do this all the time. >> it takes more than getting heavy duty gear. >> it takes more than that. >> earlier on social media you wrote that the system is
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working. to what was your exact quote and tell us what you meant. >> it's in response to a lot of what i see on the twittersphere, that the system is broken. if you look at the history of criminal justice and communities of colour, i was arguing that the system worked perfectly. you have a prosecutor that has a close relationship with law enforcement, making key decisions about how to present the evidence to the grand jury, everyone nose the joke, you can indict a ham sandwich, but not a 210 pound police officers, who sees a black man and sees he's a demog. it delivers clear evidence that the prosecutor made decisions on how to prevent this. that is part of the system. it's unfortunate that we look at the larger problem with this narrow case. i think once the bulk of evidence was released, there was nuance on both sides of the story. at the same time, clearly we
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have a criminal justice system set up where a prosecutor who has no tension, in my opinion of achieving an indictment and stay within the law. this is america, you can stay within the bounds of the law and achieve justice. >> with that said, what is your advice to thousands, still thousands of people out there who want to see change and who are in the streets marching for change. how do they get the change that you may think needs to be made to the system? >> sure, this is a country we have seen many systems of oppression dismantled. they tend to be durable and reinvent themselves. the reiteration we are looking at is law enforcement. it targets those who have the least amount of resources to resist. and right now that tends to be communities of colour, poor communities. we can thing about how we vote,
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who we vote for, who we put into officeful yes, we need police officers that know tactical manoeuvres and do preventive measures, and police officers that police in a way that matches our values as americans, compassionately, partnering with communities. communities of colour don't want to be policed. they want to work with police officers to achieve public safety, and the narrative reinforces the stigma around communities of colour, and the fact they don't want to see law enforcement. my father was a police officer. my older brother is a u.s. martial. i have seen law enforcement officers that do their job well and respectfully. it's often a small amount of officers engaged in this activity, because it's a par military organization, it tends to become infectious and poisonous when you don't have
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the right leadership in place. >> i have to ask, before going back to robert ray in ferguson, as a former police commander - is there any understanding for officer wilson's explanation - i'm assuming you believe his explanation - for how he acted? >> depends on who you ask of the the police benevolent association, these are strong unions, so strong they have blinders on, where they think cops can't do any wrong. they would never stand up in front of a camera saying a cop did wrong. the short end of the stick all the time are minorities. unless you understand dash -- - i have a teenage son, if you are in a position where you send your son to the store and worry about him coming home, or send
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him to the store, and worry about him getting into an altercation with a police officer because his pants are to low or a yankee cap on backwards. you may not value a life. >> robert ray is back live from missouri. i see you are back on camera, that tells me that things, at least where you are at this moment are somewhat stable, correct? >> i wouldn't call it stable at all, actually. it is a bunch of people walking up and down the street yelling thing, yelling profanities saying you need to get out. things are going to go down. national guard, four or five vehicles rolled past. a line-up behind us, and the police are making their way -- from the scene four blocks away. where we had a police car turned over. we had tear gas deployed, shots fired out, and to be honest with
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you, a tense situation there. it was hard to get out of there. the media, and frankly law enforcement. it was tough for them to figure out what to do. we were sandwiched between two sets of buildings, three stories high. they had nowhere to disperse. they were low to the ground. there was a giant crowd. everyone tried to make their way up. as things were peace. clearly tonight has gone south, unfortunately. >> robert, i was noticing a vehicle passing behind you. it appeared to be a white s.u.v. is that street open, or was that a law enforce. vehicle. can you tell. they haven't closed off the streets in the neighbourhood? >> that's true. streets are wide open. we see - i don't know if it's a blockade, light, police officers
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that are starting to block the end of the street off. i can tell you where we walked from from here, it is open. i am sure they are starting the process of closing things off, like they did at west florissant street. that's been closed all day. it's been closed, it's not safe. i'm not sure what the motives are here. it was peaceful. right before that incident occurs, we were talking to a young lady in the crowd who was intelligent saying she wanted her voice to get out there, and it went to a bad place. i have to ask you - ferguson is not like a huge city. how many streets would she have to block off. i'm not law enforcement. you tell me. does it make sense to cordon off the section. >> this is not rocket science.
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two square miles, 2-3 miles. this is preplanning where we talked about earlier. you have to - you have to shut the streets down. you give the people a place - think about this. was the people - the street is open, and you have agitators driving - you don't know who will stop, jump out with a gun, throwing point, doing all kinds of stuff. you have to block the streets. they act like they don't know what is going on down there. the law enforcement and ferguson. this is the the second time we have seen this. someone has to come in and say hey, let's remove the leadership. i don't know who is in charge. if it's the state trooper, police chief in ferguson. there's a - this is sad. there's law enforcement officer for 20-something years been involved in major incidents. shaun bell being shot 40 times.
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the admiral. i have been in all of these protests, we didn't have the stuff, we didn't have it. the new york city police department. >> you had spirited protests. we had very spirited protests. >> nothing out of control. >> nothing out of control. >> thank you for your time, and for sharing your insight on al jazeera america. >> st louis prosecutors released more than 4,000 pages of groury testimony and documents, including testimony from officer darren wilson. darren wilson broke his public silence about the shooting in an interview with abc news, telling george stefanopolous that he was doing his job. >> after the supervisor got there i gave him a brief run down. >> what did you tell them? >> i told them i had to shoot someone, he asked why and he said he grabbed my gun and charged me. i had to shoot him. >> is there anything you could have done differently to prevent
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the killing taking place is this. >> no. >> nothing. >> no. >> jonathan betz has more. >> the officer's testimony was critical in the grand jury's decision. darren wilson said he feared for his life who he tried to fight off a larger man who refused to cooperate. >> reporter: bruises on darren wilson's face and head, offed of a struggle against michael brown. the ferguson officer describes a fight for his life as he confronted an 18-year-old an inch taller, 80 pounds heavier. >> before stopping the teen and a friend in the street. darren wilson said brown wouldn't let the fer out of the s.u.v. darren wilson felt like it was a 5-year-old. holding on to hulk hogan. that's how big he felt. i felt that another one of those punches to my face could knock me out or worse. the officer was not carrying a tazers and said he couldn't reach his mace. the two struggled over the gun
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as the teen taunted him. from inside the car the 8-year veteran fired twice. once in the door. the other hit the teen in the hand. juror saw brown's but. the officer got out of the car and followed. the unarmed teenager stopped and turned towards him. he: darren wilson said he fired but even then: darren wilson said brown was about 10 feet away during the final shots. anger was fed. the account differed.
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some said brown ran to the officer full charge. another insisted he was not charging him. hands up - he was trying to stay on his feet and his knees starting to buckle. >> some said hands were to the side. some said in front of him, palms up. >> after days of testimony, 60 witnesses, thousands of pages of evidence, they decided not to indict. enraging protesters and brown's family. >> we object publicly and loudly as we can on behalf of michael brown junior's family that this process is broken. >> the prosecutor said the process was fair, and that the jurors saw absolutely everything. yet some complained it was too much. and it was handled more like a trial rather than deciding whether someone should face trial. >> although darren wilson was not indicted by the grand jury, he is not yet in the clear.
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he could face federal charges. lisa stark has more. >> soon after the shooting of unarmed teenager michael brown, the department of justice opened its own investigation into whether the officer who shot brown violated his civil rights. what attorney general eric holder said, the investigations into that shooting continue. he promised they would be thorough and independent. >> even as demonstrators some violently protested against the decision not to indict officer darren wilson, others were already looking ahead to the next chapter. the u.s. justice department's investigation into the killing of michael brown. >> we are holding out hope that at some point justice will be served. >> the justice department has two investigations under way, one examining whether darren wilson violated brown's civil rights. the other a broader look at the ferguson police department as a whole and whether the
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predominantly white department exhibit a pattern of discrimination or force, a pattern of violating the civil rights of ferguson's residence, the majority of whom are black. >> they'll be conducted rigorously or in a timely manner to move forward as expeditiously as we can to restore trust and understanding. >> legal experts say the tougher case to bring will be the one against the officer. the department of justice would have to prove that darren wilson intended to violate brown's civil rights. >> they will look for anything that is unusual in his actions. that would not be the normal course of actions that an officer would have taken. >> as for the investigation into the ferguson police department. barbara calls that a slam dunk. >> i say that we'll see signs of abuse. we'll see a violation of the
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civil rights law. the question will be what is the remedy. what would the justice department do. >> it was the violent police beating in los angeles of unarmed motorist king that helped to pass a law authorising the department of justice to investigate police departments for civil rights violations and order measures to force the departments to change their practices. justice has investigated some 20 police departments in the past five years. ferguson joins this list. >> there's a chance the civil investigation will bring about reforms to the ferguson police department. the reforms that are negotiated with the police department could cover firing practices. >> attorney and legal analyst is joining us tonight.
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we heard my colleague talk about the federal investigation and the possibilities there. with respect to possible charges against darren wilson, what is your educated expectancy about that. >> i think, as the experts, the attorney said, probable that the department will face some charges, and will see changes with respect to the entire ferguson police department. but that action against officer darren wilson is really tough. i mean, we have seen now that darren wilson describes this tussle that happens in his vehicle, and that he was in fear of his life as the first round of shots were fired, essentially saying he was defending himself as it lets to an altercation that occurred with regards to michael brown. the federal standard is a lot higher. there has to be wilful intent on the part of this officer to
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the -- to deprive michael brown of his constitutional rights. when you have an officer saying "i was acting in defense", as it relates to a suspect. it's challenging to meet the higher threshold. >> let me put this to you. darren wilson says that he was in fear of his life. michael brown moves away from the car after he's importantly shot the first time. darren wilson gets out of the car and chases michael brown. if darren wilson is in fear of his life, is there any contradiction in his decision to chase after michael brown. >> that's a good question. we have to remember this officer is armed. he acknowledged that he knew that michael brown was unarmed. he says he's shouting at michael brown to stop to get to the ground and michael is ignoring his command and shooting once michael brown turns around and we heard him say michael is charging him, and he's fearful
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that michael will tackle him. was each shot fired, was he in fear of his livment not just with report. that's where many believe his arguments fall apart. he would not be in fear of his life when he made the blow to michael brown's head. >> what, for you - i assume you had a chance to look at the transcripts from the grand jury. >> yes. >> yes. >> i assume there's a number of parts of that testimony that you might find some questions about. i'm curious about for you what was the biggest surprise. what is shocking to me is when
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you look at the photographs. darren wilson's face and neck, and describes the altercation in the vehicle, and he says that michael punched him not once, but twice and fears a third punch, when you think about michael brown. punching him in the face, you would expect to see a bruce a black eye. none of that exists. you are looking at a photograph of a man that doesn't appear to be in altercation. it's difficult to believe that he's in mere of his life. that's troubling. it's troubling to me as a lower, and to many in the ferguson community. >> you are from stews. as you look at event unfolding,
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what are you thoughts. >> my heart goes out to michael brown, i love st louis, that community. i know from talking to friends and family about the grand jury decision, people are hurting. the violence that we see, i can't condone it. you have to put it in the context of the pain, a feeling of being disinfranchised. and people times don't know how to express the feelings. i wish, as a native, that we see some of the energy channelled in more positive ways how do we make the school system better, how do we invest in better jobs. how do we dirsify the police department and ensure that
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people are involved in politics. there's a lot of work to be done. i'm hopeful, because i feel and see a lot of new leaders and young people getting involved. once the emotions quell, which i think will happen as we move into the holidays, we'll see plans of action leading to systematic change. >> thank you for your time tonight. thank you for all the time you spent with us on al jazeera america. >> thank you 15 years ago an unarmed african immigrant was killed by four police officers in new york city. his death sparked weeks of protests. officers tried and acquitted. tomorrow morning diarticlo's mother talks about her son's death and the situation in ferguson, missouri. you can see it in the 7am hour eastern time on al jazeera america african-american teenagers are stopped by police at higher
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rates than white teens. many black families are suggesting their kids take action by recording the encounters. jacob ward has more. >> reporter: in the two years he's been driving. this man has been pulled over seven times, twice for a discernible reason. he and his father say it doesn't make sense. >> i'm in school. i have two jobs, i moved out to my own place. i feel like, you know, i'm doing the best i can. i had the last person actually a ask. this is a normal traffic stop, why are you asking me that, if i stole the car. >> reporter: african-americans are more likely than white to be called over by the police. intending not to ticket the
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driver, but to search the car. one study suggested african-american males are as much as three times more likely to be pulled over than their white counterparts. john burrize, a member of rodney king's team said it could make all the difference in court. >> i used a cell phone. when i cas stopped i have someone on the phone. i hold up. >> a passer buy can record anything in public san francisco has policies in place. >> officer alibia shows us what he stars the proper difference. >> if i cross. >> it's too close. >> reporter: how and when somehow a driver go to his phone. the issue is so new.
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it's up to the officer in question. >> if the situation is calm, and want to record it, absolutely. >> i say my phone is in my pocket, i would like to regard it. you on occasions when reaching for a phone doesn't cause others to go for the gun, it can be a target. at what point can you take away the phone. >> if a person is arrested or cited for the interference. if there's evidence we could request or seize it. >> the mubaraks are not certain what you should do. i left it up to him if i was to record i'd put a hidden camera
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on "america tonight", our special coverage of ferguson, and the way forward. a community shaken by the grand jury's decision, and a grief. >> they are wrong. i know you are wrong. >> tonight - a closer look at what the grand jury heard and saw in weeks of testimony, and why it decided the way it d. >> no probable cause exists to file any charge against darren wilson in return to a no true indictments. >> that is not justice. it's not justice until you arreim
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