>> hundreds of days in detention. >> al jazeera rejects all the charges and demands immediate release. >> thousands calling for their freedom. >> it's a clear violation of their human rights. >> we have strongly urged the government to release those journalists. >> journalism is not a crime. >> a controversial prisoner swap could send a woman involved in a major al-qaeda attack over to isil. also identified ptsd, why a disorder that impacts millions is often misunderstood. and one of the highest ranking of the u.n. call for reform. i'm antonio mora. welcome to "consider this"." those stories and much more straight ahead. jordanian government announces

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the go daddy may be may have gone to far. >> we begin with a proposed prisoner swap. jordan's information minister said that the country was failed to exchange failed suicide-bomb suicide-bomber al rishawi for jordan's pilot who was captured by isil. jordan's foreign minister said that they would need proof that the pilot was still alive. jordanian officials did not comment on the fate of another isil prisoner, japanese journalist kenji goto, who claimed in a video tuesday that he only had 24 hours to live unless rishawi was freed. >> our position is well-known. the united states government policy is that we don't make concessions to terrorists. that is our policy.

>> for more i'm joined by robert, he served as cia's station chief for pakistan and afghanistan in the months before and after 9/11, and then as director of the agency's counter terrorism center. and author of a new book. great to have you here, a really important book that addresses at a crucial time in our history, and holds lessons with what is going on today. and i do want to start with some of what is going on today. first, this prisoner swap between jordan and isil. this coalition soldier who has been captured by isil, what do you think about this? is this something that will set a precedent? and is it something that we should expect in general as soldiers of the coalition are captured, will we swap for them? >> a couple of things to think about here.

obviously the u.s. has had a firm blanket policy against negotiating for release of its nationals that are captured by terrorists and terrorist groups. that has served us well pretty well. i'm not sure that a jordanian is going to set a precedent that will affect us in the united states. and number two, this is an unusual situation that it seems to me this is much more of a classic prisoner exchange. this was a jordanned pilot who was engaged in military operations against isil. isil has an army. we don't recognize it as a nation, but it does have an army, and it's quite natural many countries especially the united states as well has engaged in prisoner of war swaps. i think that this falls more in that category. >> is that--does that hold in the case of bowe bergdahl? there we swapped five former

terrorists in exchange for an american soldier. >> yes, well again, not to shave this too finely, but yes these were five former senior members of the taliban. you can argue it was a terrorist group. we did consider it back when they were captured that they were not international terrorists probably so-called, but there is an important issue here, and yes, i think i would tend to think of this more in that latter case. this is more of a prisoner e change involving prisoners of war. now obviously, if we don't consider these taliban members actual former prisoners of war. it's a government that we've never recognized, they have a link with al-qaeda, so it's murky, but i would tend to think of it more in that category. >> and what about the japanese prisoner involved here. they said they would kill him if this woman was not released by the jordanians. is there a certain amount of

pressure on the united states -- >> that has made the japanese more vulnerable than they've ever been. there is no question about that. but terrorists make distinction amongst nationalities. they know if they're capturing a british, american, swiss, and what that potentially means in terms of their bargaining power. >> this is different than what they've done in the past. in the past they've been asking for money. here they're asking for this swap. why is this happening? is it because of who this woman is in particular, and the jordanians have her, and they have a jordanian pilot. >> yes, and its surprising that they have not tried a swap like this in the past. but now they have a jordanian bargaining chip given the fact that this individual this morning was a captured would be suicide bomber held by the jordanians. i remember that incident very well.

she was in a suicide-bombing against a hotel, a number of hotels in jordan back in 2005. i was head of counterterrorism at the time. >> it was terribly terrible attack that killed dozens of people and injured hundreds. >> and during a wedding. >> right, she's strongly connected to isil leaders, tribal leaders in iraq. is that why she seems to have become this important figure? >> no question about it. she was a follower at the time of the then head of al-qaeda in iraq. what we now call isil, isis, the islamic state, that is the descendant, if you will, of al-qaeda in iraq. >> is there any questions of timing here because they do seem to be a little bit on the ropes in some areas just being pushed kobane, isil is trying to make a big statement here? >> i think that they want to seize on opportunities as they

present themselves either to bargain for money or use prisoners as blackmail. they tried to use the americans they recently killed to try to force the united states to change policy. i don't think they're opportunistic. they've seized this opportunity as they have in the past. it's not predicted by the military on the ground as we see it now. >> what do you think this means for the u.s. if an american soldier was captured by isil. does this set a precedence at all? you've been saying different countries, different things. >> different country, different things. if it were to involve an american soldier, that's a little bit tricky. we've been very clear that terrorist groups, when they capture american civilians we're not going to be in the business of bargaining for them because you simply build a greater market for the capture

of more americans. but in the case of an american service man, we hope not to see that, but that might be a tricky one. there might be pressure, if we had an opportunity, to maybe a prisoner swap. >> let's turn to your book. here you are in 2011. islamabad, 9/11 just happened. you're in charge of pakistan and afghanistan for the cia. you get a call saying what? >> saying this is early on a sunday morning, my time. late saturday night his time. twenty-second of september 2001 for him, the 23rd for me. he said, we're going to be talking about camp david, the war cabinet. >> in a matter of hours. >> just in a matter of hours. we're going to meet at camp david talking about the war plan.

the pentagon is telling us there are very few targets. and we know where the training camps are. we'll bomb empty camps. i said, well, mr. director, i'm not sure that we're thinking about this quite the right way. this is a political problem not military problem. we need to use military means to solve a political problem we have to start asking questions. we don't have enough time for this. let me write this down. he said that's a good idea. i'm exhausted. i have to get a few hours sleep. >> so you did what you consider the best three hours of your life, and you wrote up a plan of what the u.s. should do to deal with afghanistan. >> yes. >> and your main philosophy was that it should not be a massive invasion. it should be supporting afghan -- >> who were willing of their own volition to fight against the taliban. at the end of the day what we needed was a new government, new political disposition in

afghanistan that would be willing--unlike the then current taliban to, deny them as a safe haven. if the taliban can be convinced to do that, so much better. if some faction within the taliban can be convinced to do that, so much the better. if not, we need to smash in this place and we build. >> talking about different factions within the taliban. that's one of the crazier parts of your book. within a matter of three weeks before, after 9/11 you end up in a room with the number two guy in the taliban, and you're negotiating with this guy, trying to convince him to split with malawmar. >> yes. >> unfortunately, it didn't work. >> he agreed briefly. and we went through a long process. we had eight or nine hours of conversation on two different occasions, and basically he got to a place where he was just in a corner.

he realized the americans are not going to be deswayeded. he realized that his own leader was not going to cut a deal. he was at wits' end. he slumped in his chair. he took off his turbine, and he said, tell me what i should do. i said you must move him aside. no one is suggesting that he should be harmed. but you are the commander in the southern part of the country. you have the forces there in kandahar. you need to seize the city, take over the radio station, and mayben announcement saying that you're going to accept the guidance of the religious, and make a deal with the americans. >> that doesn't work, and the u.s. pretty much adopts your plan and decides to go in following your prescription and 88 days after they go into afghanistan, they are in kandahar, you get rid of the basically the seed of power for the taliban. >> right. >> unfortunately, the execution after that was not that great. you think that we really could

have had a much more decisive blow between al-qaeda and the taliban at that point? >> well, the taliban was a movement. we could defeat their armies. we could force the leadership to surrender. but it was a part of society and there was going to be a role for them in the future. what they found afterwards was that people who were empowered by the u.s.-afghan victory. >> the first afghan american war. >> those who were defeated in the first afghan american war. they didn't see a place for themselves in the new afghan afterwards. a lot of people understand that it was not just an american failing but it was the failing of many. >> when they started gaining some power again. when there was a resurgence that we then did what you called the second afghan-american war which

was much more brute power and that has not worked very well. >> exactly. it turned afghanistan into something that wasn't. we decided that afghanistan was too important for the afghans, we took over the fight. >> and your concern of abandoning afghanistan would lead to a civil war. >> there was no question that it would relapse into a civil war. but we hoped that it would be a civil war that the taliban would not win. and they would not win if the government would get some support from the international-- >> and then there government functions-- >> yes, there is always that. >> you wrote our on sex with afghanistan has put our view of pakistan in serious jeopardy. how do you reconcile that? >> well, the pakistanis have tried to make distinctions among different groups, all of which we consider to be terrorist groups.

their focus are on the terrorist groups that are focused on them. they've been willing to turn a blind eye against elements of the taliban who were focused on afghanistan. that's the american's worry, the afghan wars. we don't have to worry about that. that's been very problematic for us. when i say that we put our much more important equityies in afghanistan at risk, this obsession with afghanistan, and the fact that we've had so many american troops, we've taken over the fight there, we did up until recently, has motivated militants inside pakistan to get involved in that jihad. when they have been opposed, as they've been enter mitt debtly intermittently. >> and so much has been said about the isi league a rogue organization. you said it was not that bad. >> i wouldn't say that it's not that bad.

there are those who claim it's a government within a government they're making policy on their own. that has not been my experience, certainly. there are a lot of things that the isi is involved in that we don't like. but it's not the problem with the isi but the government of afghanistan. they're instrument of the chief of pakistan. if we have a problem with the isi, we have a problem with the chief of army staff and the government, and that's where we need to be focusing our thoughts and efforts. >> final question for you, the lessons learned when you look at what is happening in afghanistan, and what we're seeing in syria and iraq with isil. what should we be doing or what should we not be doing? >> to an extent that we have learned some lessons from that. the president was clear that we're not going to take the lead on the ground in iraq or syria i think that's a wise policy. that said we need to be willing to engage with those elements on the ground who are willing to

work in a direction that's parallel with our own. sometimes that's going to mean dealing with some people that we think are not very attractive. it seems to me that the so-called moderate opposition in syria is really not going to be the vehicle that is capable of defeating isil in the long run. i think at some point we're going to have to broker a peace between the moderate opposition and the bashar al-assad as much as we dislike doing that, but we have to give a correct appraisals on the ground and accept reality of what it is. when we change reality to something that we want rather than what exists on the ground that's when we get into serious trouble "88 days of kandahar." it's a pleasure to have you here. >> thank you very much. >> now for more stories from around the world.

>> we begin in the middle east where tensions are high when there is an exchange of military fire. two israeli soldiers and one spanish u.n. peace keeper were killed. hezbollah claimed responsibility for the missile ambush on israeli soldiers in the sh eba a farms region. an attack in response to an israeli hezbollah attack earlier this month. prime minister benjamin netanyahu promised to punish those who were involved in the attack. next we head to our nation's capitol and the nomination of loretta lynch. of she was asked about the president's executive decision of

immigration policies. she saidlynch pledged to rebuild the rocky relationship between congressional republicans and the justice department. if approved lynch will become the first african-american woman to serve as attorney general. next we head to russia where the kremlin has confirmed that north korea's leader kim jong-un will visit moscow in may marking the 70s anniversary of soviet young victory over voluntarily in world war ii. some 20 world leaders have confirmed that they will attend the event. russia has invited president obama and president park of south korea. we're hearing that hundreds of people may have been

exposed to the measles virus. an infected woman is reported to have unknowingly exposed nearly 200 people to the virus in phoenix. arizona officials say that the outbreak has reached a critical point and has told anyone who has not been vaccinated or had measles to stay home for 21 days or wear masks if they go out in public. 87 measles cases have been confirmed since the outbreak began in disneyland last month. that's some of what is coming up around the world. coming up, is the united nations fully equipped to fight 21st century battles, or is it an outdated . and we're tracking top stories on the web.

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>> is the united nations a bloated out of date organization or a potent force in the fight for human rights in the 21st century? i spoke with the high representative for the united nations' lions of civilizations organization aimed at galvanization against terrorism. we started our discussion with

what leads many young people to become extremists. >> when i mention marginalization and lack of opportunities also don't forget the government has a responsibility when it comes to immigration, and a few of those young people feel equal citizen, they live in a respectable way comfortable way. on the other happened, i think that lack of education might lead to --to this problem, easy target by terrorist groups. some young people, also, they want to look for their identity. they want someone to listen to their voices. so this is part of what we witnessed today. >> to attack the problem then what should the role of muslim

countries specifically be? >> well, also they're victims. many muslims are victims by their--we're not talking about religion. we're talking about there is something that youth people, they --first, lack of education. if they have good education then they will have great opportunities to have a very good life and good future. but lack of education . being pushed to the back they come with anger and hatred. they want to find themselves where they fit, and how others on society can hear their voices. >> how does the u.n. how do muslim countries, how do you even western countries as many of these extremist muslim

clerics are recruiting in europe. how is that addressed in islam. >> i think today--i always say religious leaders everywhere not just in the muslim world they have a big responsibility to address this issue, and to promote tolerance, to promote respect, and pro poet that reasonable leads to peace, not lead to blood. i think that this is very essential, and i see today around the world so many initiatives coming from religious organization or institution to address this issue, but also we cannot only blame religious leaders. of course, government has opportunity, society has a responsibility, scholars and private sector, how can you try to address the extremist and terrorist groups while the

conflict is going on? it's like a big fire in the house, and you go to the garage to try to stop the fire. no, this needs a really big collective effort and serious by the international community. >> that leads into what i wanted to talk about next, the u.n. in germ general, and it's role across the world, other than ban ki-moon or kofi annan, you've been working there for decades. the u.n. has so many responsibilities, and there is no doubt that it does tremendous good in so many areas, but it's the list of things that it deals with. peace and security, health development, human rights, it goes on and on and on. what is the main priority. is the main priority stopping conflict and stopping terrorism?

and should it be that? >> yes, of course, this is a very important issue. but let me go back a little bit about when people talk about the united nations. they say it's a giant monster. >> a huge bureaucracy that spends a lot of money. >> yes, but they don't know. this organization, it's a member state, it's driven organization. when there is no consensus, they can't do anything. but when there is collective efforts, consensus, that's why the council in syria count do anything. >> that's the problem because we don't seem to be ever reach consensus. when you bring up the security council in syria, but you could talk about the security council in ukraine, and how even a

condemnation, some of the violence ended up being vetoed by russia. you have the five permanent members who can veto things that are against their interests. if you can't get those five to agree, how do you get a broader consensus across the u.n. to achieve goals. >> that's a very good question i think time has come for a reform. a reform of security council. today the world has changed. different powers around the world. different economy, different wealth, different contribution different commitment. >> should the u.s. russia, china, france, england not have veto power any more? >> i cannot decide for them to have or not to have. that's what the united nations member states agree on one solution. then a reform. not reform, how we want the united nations organization to

be effective, active, and effective, or just giant monster with big bureaucracy? no, i think we have many challenges. it's not political. it's not war. it's not terrorist. we see today even disease. the world went crazy for one disease. what about tomorrow? what about the future? i think we should strengthen this organization to deal with all challenges. >> you can catch my full conversation for an up coming edition of "talk to al jazeera." a year at the helm of the united nations general assembly is now online and in book stores. >> antonio, go daddy is pulling a super bowl ad after it caused an uproar on social media. it was released featuring a puppy

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and author of "evil hours." a scientific and cultural history of the illness that draws on his experience and those of others living with ptsd. great to have you, david. you came back from iraq. you didn't think anything was wrong, and then all of a sudden you're at a movie theater. there is an explosion in the movie, and things change. >> yeah, there was an explosion. there was an action movie. i had taken my girlfriend, and there was an explosion depicted in this film that was shot took place from the right rear of the humvee, and it was the dark imagings how i might have been through an ied attack. that overloaded my brain. >> you went through it, you went through aied attack. >> yes, i survived aied attack in southern baghdad october 10, 2007, which is the

same position in the humvee. so in iraq that was the deadly and common way for people to die, the iet attacks. in your mind you're always trying not to imagine how that could happen. but for me in that moment of the movie theater that was a wake-up call of okay, i don't have all of my memories in all parts of my mind under control. that's the moment that began my exploration into this mental health. >> mental health problem that a lot of people are suffering from in this country. tens of millions are suffering from it. you describe what people go through by saying after trauma you may move in circles, find yourself being sucked back into an eddie or bouncing about like a rubber balance now and then and back again. you say that ptsd destroys the fabric

of time for people who suffer from it. >> it's mostly from the past to the present to the future, someone who has been heavily traumatized and this continues in a circle circular time. to be healthy you have to be able to live in and enjoy the present. but ptsd can destroy a person's ability to live in the present. in the book i describe it as it being a disease of time because it corrupts not only your general sense of being, but actually your experience of time itself. which is this basic human concept, this basic human idea of being in time. >> that makes people not understand what you're going through. it's not just veterans. survivors of rape, natural

disasters. you describe it as being on the other side of something as well. >> yes, going through a traumatic experience. going through a war, a rape, tsunami, and you come back to the regular world. you come back to the relief camp or the united states after the war, it's almost like time travel. you've changed. your experience of time has changed, and everyone back home has stayed the same. so you are in a way out of time with the regular work ada world, and it feels like time travel. >> and you describe it as a problem of living after having almost died. >> yes, and for a lot of people in the wake of severe--like a very close near death experience it changes your sense of your human agency, your human frailty, and you can kind of feel like that moment could happen all over again. you find people who have been through near death experiences there are fears that grow out of and metastasize into other

forms. >> one of the issues that you describe, people have very different symptoms, and the psychological community is struggling with the proper way to treat it. >> yes, it's a very difficult condition to treat because it impacts every person's psychology physiology. >> because there are physical consequences and biological consequences. >> yes, it's difficult to treat. and it's only been recognized since 1980. it's a product of the protest moment against the vietnam war. there were a lot of people--there was a lot to be gained by not recognizing that there are long-lasting psychological effects to war. it has this moral tone to it that some psychologists object to because it does introduce this other term of the occasion, how does one assess violence? who is responsible? how much do we owe victims? do we owe them anything at all. >> one of the therapies you went

through is called "pro longed exposure therapy." it didn't go for you, and then cognitive processing therapy which worked better for you. there are also some drugs, but where are we in helping all these people who are suffering? >> i would say that we're in the middle of the fight right now. prolonged ex-pour, it's important to recognize the u.s. veteran administration is the lead agency in the entire world, the clearinghouse for p tsd treatment, they are number one method is prolonged exposure. >> where you to keep reliving what you went through. >> to describe it to someone who has not been through it, you're asked to revisit and tell the story of your worst trauma over and over again. the idea is if you retell the story of your worst moment it will detoxify and detraumatize the memory and become like a regular memory.

it has a 60% success rate, but there is 20% who we know that exacerbate their symptoms for a period of time. i went through that therapy in san diego, and it mate my symptoms worse. there was no informed consent, and the v.a. has not come clean on addressing the fact that it does make some symptoms significantly worse. it shows how hard it is to find an effective therapy that addresses all of the various aspects of the condition. >> because it happens to be so different for so many people and some people don't even suffer from it after having severe trauma. it's very important issue, and an important book to look into it all. david morris, a pleasure to have you with us. >> thank you for having me. >> coming up, the sports world is gearing up for super bowl sunday, but what should be football's biggest celebration has been dogged by all sorts of questions, including double standards about the nfl and it's

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and found the groundhog day blizzard of 2011, which stretched for more than 2,000 miles from the midwest to the northeast. it left 36 people dead and caused $2 billion in damages. fourth place, an nor'easter in 1992 cost twice that and left 19 people dead. the tides around new york city were 12 feet higher than normal. and in third, a 1994 ice storm that froze a stretch of the south from texas to north carolina. more than a million people lost power and cost $5 billion. that's slightly less expensive than the blizzard of 96. 187 people died when a good part of the east coast got snow. the sudden melting led to dangerous and deadly flooding. the worst winter storm was in march of 1993. it cost $9 billion in damages and for the first time every major airport on the east coast was shut down.

record know false were mixed with a dozen tornadoes in florida. more than three people lost power. more reason for new york city to be grateful it got more than less than a foot of snow. media day raises several questions, and not just from the reporters who attend it. does the nfl have a double standard, demanding far more from players than it's own executives when it comes to speaking with the media.

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ed to seattle seahawks running back marshawn lynch. known for being uncomfortable in front of reporters, the league threatened a half million dollar fine if lynch did not show up to super bowl media day. so this is all he had to say. >> i'm here so i won't get fined. i'm here so i won't get fined. i'm here so i won't get fined. >> on wednesday. >> you know why i'm here. >> you know why i'm here. >> were maryland al jazeera contributor dave ziron. his book called "dance with the devil" named book of the year by "the boston globe." always good to see you. lynch gets paid millions of dollars a year, is it really too much to ask that athletes like him take five minutes of their time to talk with the press? >> i'm here so i won't get

fined, antonio. that's all you're getting from me. the crazy thing is by going and saying those words 29 times he gave us more for to think about than 99% of the athletes who were actually at the super bowl day. it's ait's not a cascade of endless clichés. we're here to play one game at a time. if there is anyone happyier than people like myself that marshawn lynch did that because it gives us something to talk about. and it takes us off the real scandal of the patriots. >> address what he did, because the sports media, they help make the game popular. isn't this in football player's self interest? >> it's interesting because there is certainly no shortage of players who are coached by

think managers agents, loved ones to talk to the media and get as much publicity as possible. and in an odd way marshawn lynch is doing the same thing because he's giving the sports media something to write about. in the process i think he's doing a public service and exposing what the nfl does in terms of how it compels players to speak. i'm sorry, a $500,000 fine? i mean, i don't care what you make on a yearly salary, that's going to bite. there's something incredible about a league who will fine ma much money for not talking to the media when on a host of other issues, as we've seen in the past year, that there are kids gloves all the way. >> lynch is uncomfortable talking to the media. i know some argue that he may have a social anxiety disorder so forcing a guy to talk to the media under those circumstances is obviously questionable.

on the other hand giving those answers has given him a lot more publicity than he would have gotten otherwise. he has his clothing line. that got him a lot of attention, and apparently that hat has exploded in sales. >> and the nfl is now saying that they may fine him for wearing the hat. i teen, this is why they call it the no-fun league. they try to coal it's players to the inth degree. it's worth saying that the nfl is very unique in terms of how it treats its players in asking to conform to a degree of anti-individuality. which is really interesting, because that's not just because the nfl is more authoritarian or conservative, because they want to market their league. they want to market the teams. not because that's their business model, but because the sport itself is so violent they

know that any play could be the player's last. they're not in the marshawn lynch business. he could be in one play and then never play again. they're in the nfl business. they've been very lucrative. there is an underbelly as to why they operate the way they do. >> and then lynch's teammate richard sherman wrote that lynch should not be forced to speak when nobody forces roger good he will to speak even though goodell makes a lot more than the players do. nfl--so should nfl personnel including goodell have to do press conferences like the players? it's not fair that that should happen. >> i don't know if fans would pay anything to see roger goodell do anything other than getting hooked up to a lie detecter. >> and probably nobody would

care about what the nfl executives would have to say but these days we do. >> and there is the other side of this, too. roger goodell is no under no obligation to speak to the media on any kind of regular basis yet his league central office is a non-profit. the league accepted millions of dollars, and you could actually make a much stronger case that roger goodell should be compelled to the public more than marshawn lynch. >> let's talk deflateed football. richard sherman had comments about that. he said that roger goodell 's close relationship two robert kraft will keep them from making conclusions. but he has been fined before. >> and then the nfl shred all

documents and evidence to spygate, which was quite the nice favor to bob kraft and the patriots franchise. because of the success they've had on the field, and in which management plays a part in they've gone from a middling franchise in terms of value to now where it's second to the dallas cowboys according to forbes magazine. the nfl does whatever it can do to help, and roger goodell has shown he has no problem with craft stage managing him from off camera to do what he feels like is in the best interest for the image of the league. that's what makes what happened over the last couple of weeks so very interesting as well. because all the leagues about what happened with the football, there are a lot of ways where that didn't really have to happen. it's someone in the locker room or the weather or something else, i mean, at the very least

they could have kept this after the super bowl. the league office has brought down a lot of turmoil on this organization that they want to protect. that's one of the many storylines that we really do need to follow in the months ahead. >> one other storyline, the criticism of goodell has extended, of course, last year and ongoing this year the handling of the issue of domestic violence in the league. there is an ad from a women's rights group that will be played during the super bowl, we're playing it now. it ends with the hashtag #goodell must go. woman. are you surprised cbs will air it, and will it do anything as to whether goodell will stay commissioner. >> i'm surprised that cbs will air it. and it's one of those things that ads will be pulled at the last second. i play not believe it until i don't see it on my screen.

but sometimes they're more viral than otherwise when they air. it might make sense for them to air it from that perspective. this is what we learned above all else. everybody from bob costas to the bettors in vegas thought that roger goodell would be fired this year. he wasn't. that shows that the profitability that he brings to the nfl is more important than any other concern. he's not going to be fired. i think if he cared about the long-term of the league and preventing domestic violence, he would resign, but i don't see that happening either. >> that's all for new, but the conversation continues on our website on "consider this." we're on facebook and twitter, and you can tweet me at amora tv. we'll see you next time.

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