>> hi everyone, this is al jazeera america. i'm john siegenthaler. the pact. fears over if you alliance between i.s.i.l. and boko haram. and the hired hands fighting them in nigeria. water woes. >> 2015 and we can't get sewage ran throughout the whole town. it's not good. >> the dirty little secret in one alabama county that activists say is spreading disease. water erosion in the pacific

northwest what's causing it. and the dangerous fallout for residents. plus: men at work. a 1980s hit maker from down under. ♪ ♪ land down under ♪ >> explains what put him back on top. we begin with the fight against i.s.i.l. seven months after the u.s. led air strikes began the fight is intensifying. right now, the most critical battles are in tikrit. that's where iraqi forces have surrounded i.s.i.l. fighters, the largest operation to date. the iraqi government says it has control of half of the city. iraqi forces are debting help from the 60-country -- getting help from the 60 country

coalition civilians continue to leave the region in droves. i.s.i.l. has many enemies but one ally: boko haram. twisted faith. untold numbers of lives have been taken. now in the battle against boko haram a new figure has emerged. that figure is the hired soldier. nigeria has reportedly recruited hundreds of mercenaries. nick schifrin is in northeastern nigeria. so nick, what are these% nears these% these mercenaries are doing? >> the bottom line is, john, they are winning. five six years ago were capable of only attacking police. now they hold land and have

killed 10,000 people. the regional that criticize nigerian military for simply not doing enough, not taking seriously enough and specifically not giving their own soldiers enough weapons to fight boko haram. that's what we're seeing these foreign mercenaries coming up with heavy weaponry into nigeria. fighting, boko haram fighters at night in these villages that boko haram has seized and clearly turn the tied. that information coming from a nigerian official and inside the nigerian military now and was wounded in a fight with boko haram and says that the military to this day has not given its soldiers enough weapons and the morale of the troops are so low that they are incapable of retaking this land without foreign mercenaries help.

>> what does the nigerian government have to say about these mercenaries? >> we have talked to government officials and they do not deny that foreign officials or foreign forces are alongside the nigerian military. they insist that these foreigners are training, they are 92nd actually on the front lines. they also don't discuss the number but we've heard from multiple sources they number in the hundreds. >> where do these mercenaries come from? >> many are believed to come from south africa, part were from the apartheid men have long histories notorious histories in west africa. we also know there are some fighters or at least officials or trainers from eastern yowrp andeastern europeand former soviet

union. >> let's talk about boko haram and this new connection with kyle. whati.s.i.l. what do we know about it? >> at a time when we know it was beginning to lose ground in years, came out and made a statement pledging allegiance to i.s.i.l, quicker than perhaps any other occasion, i.s.i.l. accepted their allegiance and this would make boko haram the largest agents if you will of i.s.i.l. in the world. but senior u.s. official who works on boko haram counter terrorist official insists that there is no drecial direct line between boko haram and i.s.i.l in syria and iraq or here. or mali or northern africa. here as much more rhetorical as a bit of propaganda to try and

boost boko haram when it's struggling, a tide has turned against boko haram for the first time in four or five years. >> nick schifrin reporting from northeastern nigeria, thank you. author of the modern mercenaries, what they mean for world order sean, what do you think of mercenaries winning against boko haram, is it a good idea? >> well, i'm not surprised. %mercenaries are very effective . is it a good idea? it can be questionable. dangerous development for the security of africa. >> do you call what you did in the past mercenary work? >> no, i do not. i was a private military contractor in africa for many years but the work i did and what many private military

workers do is defensive. what we see in nigeria is offensive. that's the difference between mercenaries and private defense contractors. >> what you're saying is if you are defending people you're not a mercenary but if you are on the offense you are? >> that is simplest way to put it. there are a lot of gray areas. private military contractors could easily become mercenaries and vice versa. it is a gray sliding scale. >> how much money could you make? >> well, some of the media reports are exaggerated. when i was a paratrooper in u.s. army i certainly made more money as a private contractor than when i was a paral paratrooper but you ask make a lot more money. >> these military kill people for money? >> yes. and the shocking thing about boko haram of course is what

they're doing they're allegedly using helicopters, armed helicopters, mi 24 hines like a flying tank, in which case that is a very fetch weapon and leaves a lot of human rights concerns. >> seems if you have enough money any group could buy its own military be it offensive defensive. do you worry about the growing threat of mercenaries around the world? >> absolutely john. that's the key issue here. when you link profit motive with war you create a market for force. there's a couple of things. one is that mercenaries can elongate and even lengthen wars and become bandits when employed. become superrich we could have a superrace of people who are very rich.

corporations and et cetera. >> how do you prevent it? >> that's the problem. you really can't. if you try to strongly regulate this industry it will simply go off shore. a lot of the mercenaries that are probably in nigeria are not even on any sort of official market. it is a word of mouth. so it's very difficult to put mercenaries out of business because ultimately what are you going to do? have the united nations u.s. or eu go in there and arrest all of these mercenaries? unlikely. >> sean mcvey good to have you on the program. thank you. >> thank you. >> whowtwhite house breach that put the country under great difficulty has complete led guilty. omar gonzalez -- has pled guilty. omar gonzalez who got into the white house carrying a knife.

pbs who secret service officers crashed into a white house barrier after they had been drinking. mike viqueria has more. >> stemming from march 4th when the reports and allegations have it that two senior secret service officials including a protective dale happened upon an active scene allegations that they were driving under the influence of alcohol they interfered with the crime scene nudging the barricades, with their car now key members of congress are asking is there a double standard? information has that it there was no determination whether or not these officers were driving under the influence of alcohol. there are also questions about the newly installed director of

the secret service joe clancy an individual who was close to president obama hand picked by president obama after the commission appointed by president obama to look into what was wrong with the secret service after a string of embarrassing incidents suggested to the president that he hire someone from outside the agency, joe clancy comes from outside the agency, on another related note one of those embarrassing incidents that has brought the secret service under such scrutiny, omar gonzalez the man who late last year jumped over the white house fence made it inside the front door before subdued in the east room has pled guilty to illegally intrerg entering the white house grounds. he will spend 18 months in prison john. >> investigating the lapses if that's what you call them at the

white house. congresswoman thank you for being with us. concerns, what can you do about it? >> it's lawmg bass there are -- alarm because there are so many incidents, prostitution, drones, rifle shots into the the white house, jumping into the fence and walking around the home where the president lives and now drunken driving. we already have having a hearing on -- are having a hearing on tuesday that was prior planned with the appropriations committee on homeland security, the chair of thing oversight along with a ranking he member have sent a joint letter to the new head of the secret service who was put in place to take care of this. some of the solutions are absolutely common sense. they did not report to the head of the secret service until five days later. do we have to report there's an

infraction that is going to endanger the president you've got to report it? >> this is a recent problem though or are some of these things been going on and we just didn't know about them? >> i have never seen so many incidents. maybe they're reporting more and i have not seen so many incidents, they are reporting them one after the other. the last one with the drunken drivers being agents, one of the agents wanted them to have a breathalyzer test and the supervisor overruled them, it's more important to protect them than oget answers of who's going to protect the president of the united states? >> now they're at homeland security should they go back to security? >> the homeland security ig is investigating it. i'm sure there will be hearings on it, there have been major personnel changes. when the intruder got into the

white house they had turned off the security system. there was a report about a rifle shot through the window. they never even investigated. it was only when the cleaning staff found the bullet that they started investigating who fired a shot into the white house? one of the children could be standing by that window. i find it incredibly troubling and their main goal is to protect the president of the united states. he says he has total confidence in them. i don't. i look forward to getting more answers and more of a slake isup. howup.how much more shakeup do you need? the drone landing on the white house lawn granted it was okay and no problem, but it could have been a bomb. and the case most recently, the drunken secret service officers arriving, when she said she had

a bomb she was able to get into the car and escape. the one agency acted appropriately. how did she escape after claiming she had a bomb? maybe there should be two of them. they should be protecting the united states and the president of the united states. >> your concern was for the president? >> that's their purpose to protect the president of the united states and the family and the people that work in the white house. that's their purpose and you can't protect them very well, if you're drunk. this is not the first time they were drunk. in colombia and the proots, the prostitutes and in amsterdam.

>> and you the washington post ran the story and they are running after the washington post with the story and the point that they didn't even report it to the head of the department is astonishing. that they didn't investigate a bullet going through the window of the white house is not responsible. >> well, we hope you find out more answers. congresswoman it's good to have you on the program. >> i hope to find out more answers on this and i would like more answers on your prior program. i would like to know what are the other african leaders in the region doing? this is a threat not only to nigeria but to the whole region. >> you're talking about boko haram. >> yes right. they should all be working together to stop this. and i'm still concerned about this 600 an deducted girls and they continue to abduct girls and boys and force the boys into the military. >> some 20,000 killed. >> and new don't stop it it's just going to continue. and i would like -- i'm going to

ask for a briefing from the state department on what are we doing to try to -- these were children. these were young children that they abducted and we need to get some answers. and it's -- even now more of a threat, with combining with i.s.i.s. >> we'll come back and talk more about that as well, congresswoman good to have you. >> you have great coverage on this and i want to thank you for it. >> thank you very much. this sunday marks four years since antigovernment protests ignited a civil war in syria. today the u.s. announced another 70 million in lethal aid to moderate antisyrian groups. another 30 million will be given to officials in rebel held areas. the rest will be used for training collecting evidence of possible war crimes. the war in syria has claimed more than 200,000 lives it's created more than 4 million refugees. so far just a handful of then

have received asigh aasylum in the united states jamie mcintire is in washington. james amyjamie. >> the state department has more than 11,000 resettlement petitions pending. of that 11,000 only 578 have been let in so far. for days activists have been standing in the shadow of the white house reading names of people who have perished in syria over the last four years. 28-year-old castey zack casty casty zack zachariah.

>> i've been gassed and bombed and made it here. >> your friends and family in syria would like to get out? >> i would like to discuss this information but let's say my family is in syria and i'm working on getting them into a safer place. >> how hard is that? >> it is so hard. >> reporter: 24-year-old masad belshi came to the united states on a student vee is a after it ran out he was granted asylum. but masab, an aspiring journalist says most of his friends and family are trapped in refugee camps like yarmuk outside damascus where he documented conditions in a video before he left in 2013. >> they are a seizure around the region, it is dangerous i lost a lot of them.

i almost lost like 50 friends. >> you've lost about 50 friends how? >> by torture by guns by sniper by mortars. and when i was in yarmuk i almost killed like three or four times. >> the state department says its initial focus back in 2011 was getting humanitarian relief to displaced people in syria. but now even as there is more urgency in getting refugees out there's red tape. >> once it enters our system we have about a two-year process where we interview the refugees, we take their information we conduct million screening and we also conduct military screening. >> zachariah says what if instead of getting them out syria could be made safe for them to stay quch. staystay ? >> how about taking bashar

al-assad getting them anywhere they want anything they wants and help millions of people come back home and rebuild their lives. instead of solving the refugee problems by thinking the millions they have to help, why not take down or resettle bashar al-assad and the few people who are helping them to kill tall syrian people? >> but the reality is syria's president shows no sign of leaving and the war shows no sign of ending. state department is pledging to do better, hoping to accept up to 2,000 syrian refugees this year and next, and those referred by the u.n. hcr are women and children and elderly and people with severe medical conditions. john. >> thank you jamie. coming up next, people in filthy conditions in the united states. a raw sewage problem in alabama. why little is being done about

it. now ferguson residents are looking to leave.

>> with you activist calls it america's dirty secret.

a rural alabama county where many people live without county. loundes county alabama where many people live without plumbing. ash-har quraishi has the story. >> this is not some developing country. this is the united states of america. here in lowndz county, alabama harkhard work is a way of life. where one in ten live in poverty. known for its dark color earth. the soil is not are susceptible to septic systems. >> when it rains it powers. >> what happens night the house? >> it backs up. it backed up this weekend. >> when you look up and see the

clouds you say -- >> oh boy here it comes again. >> what kinds of things happen? >> sewage backup, water not draining, the field line not draining like it should and it's just been a mess. >> at least hardy has a septic system. her neighbor and relative cheryl ball hasnology. waste runs into this broken pipe flows into her backyard. you can imagine the odor. >> when it's hot, in the area, you -- yeah, and you say okay, who's -- is it mine? is it hers? is it hers? because >> because it's coming from erp? >> yeah. >> do you worry about it at all? >> well i do but i can't afford it. >> she's not alone installing a

septic system can cost a thousand or tens of thousands of dollars. the effluent pours out without containment. it is a condition that has persisted for decades. >> it doesn't make sense to me for families to have to live like this. with raw sewage running in their back and front yard. it's not safe, it's not good at all. you got kids running around playing around this kind of stuff and it's just -- it's not right. >> long time resident aaron thig thigpen says no one seems to carry about it. >> it's 2015 and we can't get sewage run throughout the whole town. it's not good. >> people are running around afraid to -- >> they don't want to be exposed to raw sewage running through their yards. >> reporter: as we drove through the community we found numerous incidences. the residents here didn't want to talk to us on camera but

they're allowing us to photograph what's happening out here. as you can see no septic system, just a pvc pipe coming out of the structure and waste flowing out. >> the majorities of people living in these conditions are black and would i say the second largest group are people that are poor. >> reporter: for years activist katherine flowers has been working towards addressing america's dirty little secret. >> especially washington doesn't acknowledge that this is the problem. that is because we are off the beaten path, these are rural communities and this problem is actually from west virginia to texas. >> but county and state officials say there is no public funding to fix the problem. >> reporter: who's responsible for maintaining a proper septic system? >> the homeowner is the responsible party. >> and if they can't afford to do that? >> it is still part of the

homeowner's responsibility. >> and what would happen if they don't comply? >> we have a tendency to try to work with them. our goal is to get the problem fixed, to get the sewage off the ground. for this individual, their family and the people in their community. >> does the state have a handle on the scope of the problem how big of a prop it is? >> we absolutely know it is a colossal problem throughout the state. don't believe it is probably as widespread now as it was 30 years ago. >> reporter: what the state does not have a handle on is how severe the potential health effects are. researchers say hookworm and other intestinal parasites are emerging. but no evidence to believe a parasitic disease is on its way. >> we can't say definitively that there is anything okay from the information that we have now, okay? based on the reports that we get across the state there does not appear to be any issue.

>> still the sewage continues to flow unabated in lowndz county with no real solution in sight. ash-har quraishi, al jazeera lowndz county, alabama. >> still ahead how a ferguson resident armed with a video camera is revealing how people are treating people. plus. >> this is the reality i'm allen schauffler, we'll explain why they call this place "wash away beach."

are. >> hi everyone, this is al jazeera america i'm john siegenthaler. fleeing ferguson. >> who wants to buy a house in ferguson at this point. >> months of unrest, now some residents are packing their bags. community watch. >> none of these cops like me, you see that. >> hear from the ferguson man making it his mission to keep an eye on police. into the sea.

devastating waterfront erosion. why parts of the pacific northwest are falling into the ocean. and his voice is unmistakable. men at work colin hay talks about finding a whole new generation of bands. we start in ferguson missouri. police say no arrests are imminent in the shooting of two police officers thursday. county police chief john bellmar says the community is providing good leads but more are needed. he won't speculate whether the leads have any connection to the police officers. one officer is shot in the face other in the shoulder. they have both been released from the hospital. prompting some residents to move out but it may not be so easy

for people trying to sell their home. diane eastabrook is in ferguson with more, diane. >> reporter: that's right john. if you are a homeowner looking to sell your house you may have a very hard time attracting a potential bier. doretha wants to escape the turmoil in ferguson. >> i don't want to be in a neighborhood in which my child doesn't feel safe because he's an african american male. >> she is wanting to sell the house she has owned for 18 years but she's losing money. >> i'm caught between a rock and hard place. who wants to buy a home in ferguson at this point in time? >> reporter: homes if ferguson ferguson -- sales of homes in ferguson started tanking. last fault. that's having an impact on

prices. >> come on in. so this house actually, we used to own -- used to be owned by ferguson methodists church. >> this historic home went on the market three weeks ago and listed for $145,000. house like this featuring updated kitchen fireplaces and hardwood floors may have fetched a higher price a couple of years ago. >> are they worried about what happened in ferguson? >> it could be, it could be. >> some residents are placing signs in their yard. being this woman bought her home in ferguson and also owns two rental properties here. while she's concerned about their value she feels leaving would deal an economic community to a community she loves. >> do we really want another dead city? is that what we want?

is that what the protesters want? that makes no sense. >> he gets a half dozen phone calls from ferguson residents who want to sell. he encourages them to stay, because prices will rebound. >> my plans were to retire. my home will be paid for before my retirement. at this point, i'm really undecided. >> reporter: now the real estate consultant that we spoke to said there are rumors that some businesses actually some corporations could be coming into ferguson to invest and that could actually attract people into the community potential buyers. at this point there are no guarantees of this. >> diane eastabrook thank you. department of justice report on ferguson was 102 pages belong filled with troubling details about police abuse. it says they let dogs loose on people used tasers when there was little or no need and often

used unnecessary force against the mo vulnerable. the report was no surprise but the ferguson resident has made itsit his mission to document the abuses. duarte geraldino has the story. >> before officers were shot in ferguson david wit could see it coming because he felt that rage himself. >> they have been killing us and our kids. this evil we are faced with every day i would probably be out there with my guns too ready to kill because i know that they want to kill me. i need to be fearless out there because my kids got to have a future one way or the other. >> reporter: he lives in the neighborhood where michael brown was shot by police. instead of a gun he picks up a camera. most days he spends a few hours patrolling the streets recording police activity. >> they going up here mess with these kids.

i'm going to run up. >> until a few months ago it might have been easy to dismiss david and his concerns. he has a criminal history across multiple states. spent time in prison. and has personal reasons the strongly dislike police. >> none of these cops like me you see that. >> but the department of justice investigation of police activity in ferguson now obsessessive david's consist and puts it in different light. preventing people from recording their activities, people are punished for recording public police activities. the doj says people have been arrested by trying to film police and crucial evidence was never collect they'd could have clarified disputes. >> without hard evidence, which this is hard evidence, without hard evidence the police officer's word is taken over

your word. >> that's why david has dedicated a room in his apartment to storing and cataloging this evidence. >> what can i do for you? >> you can't do nothing for me, i'm exercising my right to film police activity. >> he founded ferguson's chapter of cop watch. >> we ordered 200 more cameras. >> why 200? >> because we're starting a class, the whole niive is to initiative is to educate. >> he's knot just giving cameras away he is training people to use them lawfully. >> we don't want anyone shot grabbing for your camera. >> duarte geraldino.

al jazeera ferguson, missouri. held without bond, authorities say he's responsible for the death of ahmed al jamali. >> he targeted them, shot at them with intent and as mr. al jamali ran back towards the apartment the breezeway he tracked them with the rifle and continued to fire. >> he was looking for someone who shot at his girlfriend's apartment. investigation is ongoing. time to check ton weather. a category 4 cyclone hitting the south pacific. tonight there are floods evacuation orders, widespread fear of destruction. kevin corriveau is here with more. kevin. >> that's right john. we have been watching the progression of cyclone pam increasing in intensity making its way towards vanuatu. this was a picture from nasa

before it made landfall. it increased to a categories 5 storm when it made landfall over the ocean. we didn't think it was going to make landfall but going over to the east. take a look at video from the region. we have seen a catastrophic destruction across the region, the death toll is estimated right now over 40, but they expect that to go up as the system begins to move away and they can go into those more remote areas of those islands especially down here towards the south. i want to take you over here and show you what we expect to see. the storm over here to the northeast of the correlate coral sea it is moving to new caledonia. new caledonia over the next 12 hours to 24 hours you will also be seeing some very heavy rain

showers. heavy flooding and storm surge across that region as well. over the next 24 hours this is what we expect to see it's going to make its way over colder water. you won't see the devastation that vanuatu saw. >> washington state an average of 100 feet of coastline lost every year. many residents can't get insurance, as homes have literally fallen into the ocean. allen schauffler has that story. >> reporter: this is wash away beach. a stretch of pacific coastline whose most famous feature is that it's disappearing. and as the land goes so do the beach homes and camp cabins with the suddenly unwelcome ocean views. >> this is blue pacific drive another some have just stolen the sign i see.

>> photographer fell in love with the area 12 years ago. >> not many people around you so walk for miles. >> she bought a get away place for $15,000. signing a waiver, that she understood all about erosion. >> didn't have running water it had three shacks. there was never any question i was a visitor it wasn't going to last. >> in two weeks ago her last structure drops into the pacific. >> cook shack was about -- probably right about where we're standing. >> cook shack was right about here? >> yeah, yeah. >> it is relentless erosion and it's not new. documented here for more than a century. surveys in the 1870s though a peninsula two miles lon extending into wilapa bay. erosion rates up to 500 feet a

year, slowing dramatically to less than 100 feet a year over the last two decades. there was even a town, north cove the last home washed away in the '60s. accord to the sedate department of ecology it's just nature at work. >> pacific county tax statement that said my $17,000 property was now valued at $17.90. >> so with all that history and all these waves why would anybody live in any of these homes? >> this is road that's known as the red line. life on that side, the north side, pretty normal but as soon as you take this turn to the south, things are very different. for that entire half-mile. it's an area that screams "buyer beware" but buying and selling does happen. we found this home listed online for just $11,500. how long will it be there? it's up to nature the listing says. long time real estate agent

denise wells says no real estate agent will buy or sell in this part of washaway. >> this would not be a normal part of real estate? >> no, cash only. >> i wouldn't get a bank loan, no insurance no building permit at all? >> no. >> no septic permit? >> you couldn't even get a permit to fix your roof. >> the tiny real estate office is empty. our questions about it unanswered. with you eerieone eerie location. >> as people moved out as this year's winter storms took their properties erica -- >> these crystal meth guys came

onto my property and stealing my stuff. >> this has been a fantastic teacher. >> it's been a life lesson. savor the moment. this is all tran chefnt. we are guests. >> the waves keep coming and the homes keep going. allen schauffler, al jazeera washaway beach washington. >> let's bring in meteorologist nicole mitchell. what can you tell us about the science of erosion? >> there are a number of problems that cause erosion. for somewhere like washaway beach it's got the most erosion on the west coast. a numbered of factors -- a number of factors come together. large powerful waves a lot of water coming in and they chew away at the coastline. then you add to it some of the massive storms that come in on the coastline and that causes the fastest erosion for these

areas, sometimes on a big storm they can lose two or three houses aat a go. this is a estuary. this oches out to the sea and is -- opposite out to the sea and is enclosed. the tides come in and as the water comes in from the river it turns that water around moves more sand out than is coming in and causes it to break away to the north to get that water out to the sea. we go back in time and you can see how much more land there was. that water was having to take a curve in and out. water likes a straight line so it was losing a lot mortar rain earlier in the history than it is now that it can take less of a curve but as the angle has changed less of a dramatic coastline.

the bottom line, very soft sand in this area, you are able to lose that more than a rocky coast for example. back to you. >> rough for people with property or homes. coming up, front man colin hay on life as a pop star and building a new fan base as a single artist.

>> worldwide more than 24,000 people have been infected with ebola. the overwhelming majority in west africa. now scientists say they discovered where the outbreak first started. traced it back to a two-year-old boy in guinea. life in his village has not been the same. imran khan reports. >> reporter: life has not been the same. ebola virus beginning what has begun the worst outbreak ever recorded. >> the bats brought the virus into the village. we have decided to burn this tree so no bats will bring ebola. >> ebola was first detected in bats from this tree and his son was the first person to contract the disease and die in the

current outbreak. other members of his family also died. >> in the beginning when my children started dying and my wife i doubted myself and i thought they were killed by tradition. the white man says it's ebola around when ebola entered my village, i was the first man to lose all my family, my one year son died and my wife too. >> the ebola virus has killed 10,000 people. a vaccine is being tested and modeled on the ring vaccination approach which was used to eradicate smal pox in smallpox in the 1980s. there are challenges. both guinea and sierra leone are still reporting dozens of new cases every week and the number of ebola deaths taking place outside of hose remains high. and that suggests that people are wary of seeking help or are

hiding patients. imran khan, al jazeera. >> now to a story coming up in our next hour. women's being forced into marriage some of them americans. stephanie sy has that, stephanie. >> we speak to these women who were either forced to marry or forced into arranged marriages. nashua al said, she was brought to egypt as a toddler against her will. she was promised in marriage to a stranger and this is what went through her head. >> i'm going to move on from like my father's house to where i'm being abused to my husband's home, which i'm going to be the same. that clicked for me that's not an openingings. >> coming up. we'll tell you how nashua sceachednashuaescaped her fate.

>> stephanie thank you very much. she's a famous author, a very reclusive one? is harper lee of sound mind? lee the writer of "to kill a mock bird" was is 88 years old. her agent says she's in full possession of her mental fajts. now to music. men at work was one of the biggest bands in the 1980s turning out hits like down under and who can it be now. their front man colin hay went solo after the band broke up. nearly 30 years later he's seen a career revival. he talked to david schuster about his success and how men at work was such a success. >> we didn't know how successful we were going to be but we had

aspirations we had ambitions and we always wanted to be a successful international recording and touring act and that's what happened to us. we were assigned to cbs records which became sony music. originally they were unsure of our potential so they gave us a deal for a single. we immediate "who can it be now." ♪ >> and went to number 2 in all australia and they thought we'll let the maker make a full album. >> did they all reject you? >> they all claimed credit oh no problem it was you. >> the band didn't stick around for that long. you said the band should have actually broken up sooner. explain why. >> you know men are stupid really as a rule. especially in the 20s we had very little communication skills. even when you get older. five or six men together in extended pfsdz periods of time under

constrained environments you don't make very good decisions. >> you also get nailed because of the tv show scrubs. how did you meet zack brat? >> i met zack at a party. before he was in scrubs. he said i've got this gig in the television show, i'm going to be the star. i said more power to you. he said i'll take some of your cdc and see if i can get them played on the radio. what is what he did. >> ♪ ♪ get to sleep think about the implications ♪ >> it helped me enormously because television as you well no david is a very powerful medium. >> tell bus the album you have out? >> it's fabulous david. >> what makes it fabulous?

>> some great songs a great band with me. i have a studio in miss basement and it's the best thing i've come out with. >> is it harder to break out with something good than 30 or 40 years ago? >> i was very lucky because i come in a time where people bought records. our deal was a horrible horrible deal i'm not going to get into complaining about what our deal was like but it was a shocker. our percentage was almost criminal. you know? >> what was it? >> it was like four. >> that was your percent? >> yeah, yeah. >> every dollar you made you got four cents? >> if you are a band and you get yourself a lawyer, you could get 10% from recommended retail you know. we made cbs $1 billion.

>> i'm going to ask you about the song you're going to perform for us, tell us about its significance and meaning to you. >> next year people. i was watching a ken burns documentary on the dust bowl in the '30s the depression the farmers and how they did the same thing every year and expecting a different result, a lot of madness involved a lot of death, mayhem and heartache and some people hung in and some people left. i found out about my situation and even though my situation was different i could relate to some degree. i went from playing to 50,000 people to really playing to nobody. it's a fine line between character-building and soul-destroying. i could relate to the fact of doing same thing every year and hoping for a different result. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ you can't live

without hope that thing will be better ♪ ♪ you can't the leave without somebody reading your letter ♪ ♪ we've had dust storms before and spit out the dirt ♪ ♪ we've had droughts before but none quite like this ♪ ♪ winds that cut up your face to pieces ♪ ♪ black blizzards that stripped the paint off your cars ♪ ♪ no sisters of mercy ♪ ♪ come without war wanting only that sound ♪ ♪ got us roaring drunk and out on the town ♪ ♪ next year everything will come good ♪ ♪ the rains they will fall and we'll dance on the hood ♪ ♪ we'll fill up our bellies with

plentiful food ♪ ♪ we'll eat drink and be merry ♪ yeah, next year people wait and see ♪ ♪ well next year people you and me ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ [applause]

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