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moments ago spoke at a news conference that was interrupted by protesters. >> any questions? [ chanting no justice no peace ] >> there were a number of announcements, the mayor announcing announcing that officer slagger had been fired. >> the officer that was terminated. while he has been terminated, his wife is pregnant, and the city will continue to cover insurance on her until after the baby is born. we think that is the humane thing for us to do, and we're going to do that. >> the mayor said that officials will not make any statements, however, walter scots family spoke this morning on "good morning america." his mother calls the video of her son's death shocking.
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>> when i looked at that tape. that was the most horrible thing i've ever seen. i am very very upset concerning it. i almost couldn't look at it running defenselessly they shot and i hope this never happens to another person. this has got to stop. >> the player and police chief visited the family of walter scott this morning. the mayor saying that he was impressed and taken aback by the warmth demonstrated by the scott family that the city of north charleston and the north charleston police department will stand with the family, provide escorts for them and do all they can to assist them in this time of grief. walter scott we're told, had
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been arrested ten times. mostly for failing to pay child support. two of those arrests were on assault charges. the stop of that resulted in the confrontation with the police officer had to do with an alleged traffic violation. we're now joined by al jazeera america legal contributor jamie floyd. i must ask you were you surprised at the speed the officials in north charleston took action against the police officer. >> yes indeed, i was. we've talked about these cases before. tragically in my career as a legal analyst as a lawyer, and in my lifetime as an american citizen i've seen too many of these cases dating back to my childhood. but rarely do we see action taken at all. >> and even in cases where we have video. >> right. >> why did this jurisdiction do what they did as compared to
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staten island where you hear, i want breathe and yet the officers the process was allowed. >> obviously, the videotape helps. that's one factor, but we've had videotape in other cases the one you referenced, for example that's not the deciding factor. there are procedural reasons. some states requires to convene that delays the process in what seems indefinitely. there is something here that is positive. that is the civic process. meaning all of us coming together and it's not just black folks. people across the spectrum of the country, i would call it the ferguson affect. people are tired and they're voicing their exhaustion with what has been happening to black men, poor men poor people in the face of a militarized police force. that does not mean that every officer is going to act with
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malice against every black man that they encounter. >> the vast majority don't. >> the majority don't. we have to assume good intent on the part of those who choose to be officers. but as we militarize the police force, we derive communities of color, and people are tired of it. we have to handle the situation differently or we're going to have a similar response. we don't want that response. we want to build on a communicative conversation with the community that was affected by the city. >> so you like millions of others by now, have seen the video. >> yes. >> we understand that it is
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being reviewed but as you look at it from just a person looking at it without having been there what do you make of what you saw? >> i want to be very careful because we do have to presume always anyone charged with a crime, murder or any other crime, but especially murder innocent until proven guilty. that is even when we see a horrific disturbing piece of video like this one. we think we know what happened because we see the video. people will say use your common sense, can't you see what happened? of course we have to wait until we get to trial and all the evidence comes in. that being said we know that one of the two people involved in whatever went down there is no longer with us to tell his side of the story. now you asked me to assess the tape. it's terribly disturbing.
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>> let me just pause you right there. we have breaks news from boston. the jury has reached a verdict in the trial of dzhokhar tsarnaev. the verdict is expected around 1:45 p.m. eastern. we'll bring you the details as soon as we have the result of that verdict tsarnaev facing the death penalty. his brother who was also involved in that tragic occurrence died in the confrontation with police. now, back to-- >> well actually, it's not back to. how ironic that that news came in just as i was saying we have to presume people innocent. how difficult to presume people innocent in that trial where the boston bombing massacre trial right? where the defense all but conceded his guilt and the jury still took its time back there. i thought all day long what are they doing? the defense has acknowledged his
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guilt. it's really a trial of whether or not he is going to face the death penalty. but because our system requires a presumption of innocence and really functions at its best when we presume people innocent, that is what our democracy especially in the criminal courts is all about. getting back to this case, we don't want police officers when they confront black men or anyone else, presuming those people guilty and playing investigator and tryer of fact and executioner all in the space of a few minutes. we have to afford that same presumption of innocence to this officer, who is now at trial. when i look at the tape it's terribly disturbing. but you know what is more disturbing? i've come some what used to seeing this kind of violence against black men. when i saw the news out of south carolina today? was i surprised? no. was i shocked? no. was i taken aback? of course i was taken aback.
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am i moved almost to tears well yes because this happens so often. but the fact that we're no longer surprised when these stories happen that should be cause of alarm. whether the man is guilty or not we should be desperately alarmed when these cases happen again and again and again from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. >> sorry to keep flipping back and forth. >> that's what we do at al jazeera america. >> absolutely. we know that the trial is now in the first phase, which is-- >> yes the trial of tsarnaev. >> yes and then the next phase will, of course, be the penalty phase. ordinarily in your experience how much time elapses between the two? >> well generally they'll get moving--before we move onto the penalty phase? >> yes. >> once they ascertain the guilt, which is what they've already done. >> i don't like to predict things but i think we're moving on to a penalty phase and sometimes there will be a reason for delay.
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and one of the two of the penalty phase. same jury. they'll decide whether or not he lives or executed. and the interesting thing is that we're in a jurisdiction that is predisposed against a death penalty. probably the foremost jurisdiction that is not a death penalty jurisdiction massachusetts. >> now does it have to be, ordinarily a hearing or an examination by psychologists. >> yes, it's all about that. they'll bring in experts about his psyche, his psychology, about why he might have been manipulated by the brother. it reminds me a lot about the malcolm-mohammed d.c. sniper case where the father and stepson went around, and we all lived in a state of terror over the course of a summer.
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the argument there was that the younger man the son was under the manipulative influence of the father. it worked. the son was not given the death penalty. the father was and ultimately executed and the son serving a life sentence. that was a federal case as well. >> was the son under the age of majority. >> i believe he was. that is a factor. but in this case, there is a young man--there is a wonderful book out right now called "the brothers" written by a woman who immigrated from the former soviet union raised in the united states. moved back to russia for a time. she is a journalist, and she has examined the psychology as well as the history of these two brothers. and it's interesting that you bring up that this young man was of the age of majority. he is a college student. >> tsarnaev. >> tsarnaev is. his brother is a mature man and here's the dining factor between
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them. when they come to the united states. the older brother is 16, and the younger brother is 8. there is a big distinction between someone who comes to the united states--they're not chechens. there is an complicated ethnic history. the older boy is 16. and for him to assimilate is very very difficult. but the little boy is 8. >> he grows up here. >> he's essentially an american. >> once again we're waiting for the verdict in the boston marathon bombing trial. we're looking at pictures live outside of the courthouse in boston. that sign saying dzhokhar tsarnaev was not a follower. this is not islam phobia. this is denouncing islam phobia. we'll have more on the verdict and the demonstration outside of the courthouse in boston on al jazeera america.
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even though his defense attorney has all but admitted his guilt nonetheless the jury system requires that they reach a verdict, and we understand they have reached a verdict but it has not yet been announced. when that happens welcome back with that result, and we'll also talk to our financialist who is standing by for commentary and observation jamie floyd. in other news that we're following an american service member killed in afghanistan when an afghan soldier open fired. there was a meeting in progress between the u.s. ambassador and an afghan leaders that had apparently just wrapped up when an afghan soldier open fired. the shooter is now dead. we have more from jennifer glasse in kabul. >> it happened in the provincial governor's compound while a meeting was going on. the u.s. official and governor himself, we know one national
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afghan army soldier was killed and one injured. we don't have word on whether any of the international forces were injured. they'll only confirm that an incident happened in jalalabad. a fire fight between internationalthe soldiers. there were lots of police and afghan army soldiers there. it should an secure area, but we've seen really the instability here with the afghan military in 2012 it was a very big problem. afghan military soldiers opening fire on nato forces. 61 soldiers killed in that year. a lot of protection mechanisms went in, that's what we've seen in the past. viewer soldiers there have fewer international soldiers here as
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it draws down. this clash between international soldiers and. >> those are reports from kabul. the iranian foreign minister said that he supports a cease-fire saudi-led airstrikes went after an air base in southern yemen meanwhile jordan is pushing a draft resolution to stop the war from escalating. advocates here in the usa say say that the obama administration needs to do more to get u.s. citizens out of yemen. >> bombs from the skylight up the nights over yemen. airstrikes by the saudi arabian coalition have now entered a third week. the coalition has not been able to defeat houthi rebels who together with soldiers loyal to deposed ali abdullah saleh.
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on the ground fighters who support the current president abd rabbuh mansur hadi engage in street battles. the fiercist fighting is taking place in the port city of aden. a stronghold for. as for any war civilians are suffering the most. it's difficult to get an independent figure of how many were killed, but there are pictures of people who are injured and killed by the airstrikes as well as by the outies. on the border crossing with saudi arabia there are people still trying to escape. >> the situation is getting worst. there is advice to leave. >> i live in the center of sanaa. i have to flee. there were several airstrikes. it was terrifying. >> despite calls by several
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governments for aid to be allowed into yemen and assurances by saudi arabia that it will facilitate the arrival of aid and workers very little has been able to enter the country. the fighting on the ground followed by constant bomb pardonment in the air one thing that they can find is violence. >> defense secretary ash carter said that al-qaeda's branch in yemen is taking advantage of the chaos there and making major gains. the u.s. considers al-qaeda and the arabian peninsula to be the group's most active and dangerous branch. carter says that washington will need to rethink its strategy to prevent threats to the west. a gang attack in mexico has left 15 policemen dead. the gang, which authorities have not identified ambushed an elite police convoy in the western part of the toronto. officials say that the attack may have been revenge for the
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>> once again we're awaiting the announcement of the verdict in the boston bombing trial the jurors had a number of questions for the judge as they went into deliberations. they're dealing with 30 counts against dzhokhar tsarnaev. they asked what constitutes conspiracy. we have our analyst at our desk jamie floyd, with a what was going on with the jurors even though his attorneys said he did it. >> i just had all the papers
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thrown at me of the accounts. you recall in the o.j. simpson trial, the jurors came back within a few hours and the public i think for 0 years they have been excoriated for not taking it seriously enough. that's a far less complicated case on the facts. here the jurors have 30 counts. they have to, according to the judge's instructions, go through each count. whatever the defense may have conceded. they have a form they have to walk through and essentially check off whether or not they find him guilty or not guilty. beyond a reasonable doubt. and that takes time. and you know, maybe somebody back there who want to discuss some of the facts. and even if you agree on each count, that's going to take a few hours. >> you might disagree on some of the counts. >> this is a very big deal.
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this is a weighty responsibility that the jurors will have to live with for the rest of their lives. as we look through the counts we can recognize why it would take a day or two and they know the next step is life or death. they want to make sure that they get the first step right. >> we've been told that they have reached a verdict. >> yes. >> what coo explain the delay the announcement we have a verdict. >> security, getting the family of members of the victims in place. and his parents went back overseas after the bombing. but the fact of the matter is that his sister may have come here--he has two sisters. i don't know if people know this. there are four kids all together. one of the two sisters lives in canada. i understand that she'll be present for the penalty phase.
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she may be called for this verdict to the courtroom. you know, the court has to get a lot ready. most of all, frequently s security. we can't just announce the verdict like we do in any run of the mill case. we have to be prepared. and then the news media. they're being respectful for all of us. this is a case of tremendous public significance. >> all the counts that he's facing that the jury has to deal with, use of a weapon of mass destruction and aiding and abetting. count three use of a firearm resulting in death and aiding and abetting. and so it goes. >> each of the victims, each person who died, and each person who is injured. even with all of that, i have friends from college who are in the courtroom for all of the case who have been covering trials some of these people 20 years, and i'm told that this is
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one of the best cases--one woman told me the best-tried case she has ever seen on both sides. >> on the prosecution and in the defense in. >> in terms of presentation, and integrity, all of it. the fbi cannot tell you where the bombs were made. that makes me wonder, well, where were the bombs made? do we know whether there was anyone else involved with the tsarnaev brothers in the making of the bombs? >> you know there were some of the students friends of dzhokhar who are accused of shielding him after the event, not telling the truth when asked what they knew about him. >> it's interesting when you read that book "the brothers," oddly enough, unlike his brother, tamerlan, he was an extremely popular young man. when he comes to the united
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states very social kid all the way through high school, and into college when he becomes a bit odd. and of course in hindsight we see his radicalization. even when he began to post weird things. they got in quite a bit of trouble with law enforcement. some defend him to this day. and, in fact overseas there are all kinds of conspiracy theories how these brothers have been framed. overseas newspapers, interviews, people in the immediate community, they have gotten a perspective on this case.
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>> the accused marathon bomber. the verdict had been expected about 15 minutes ago. for various and sunday sundry reasons these things can take time. we have our analyst jamie floyd with us. there are reasons even knowing that there is a verdict it takes time for the jury to return to the courtroom and the jury
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