and like aljazeera america on facebook for more stories, more access, more conversations. so you don't just stay on top of the news, go deeper and get more perspectives on every issue. al jazeera america. this is al jazeera america live from new york city. i'm tony harris and we continue to follow the breaking news out of baltimore, maryland. clashes between protesters and police have broken out in the city. several neighborhoods in the city. at least seven officers have been hurt police cars have been set on fire people are also looting stores and damaging property. the violence erupted shortly after the funeral for freddie gray. he died after being injured in police custody. let's get you to john ter rhett

from baltimore. if you would, we're looking at pictures but take your time and describe the situation at the moment there in baltimore. >> reporter: good evening, tony. the worst of the rioting taking place at the moment is happening just 1.5 miles away from downtown baltimore. and the story of the day, if you're just getting from work is is that around about 2:00 this afternoon, the university of baltimore, maryland let its staff and students know they were concerned there may be violence in the area and they should go home. that was the first indication that we have that something may be up. later on at least two high schools emptied out, and the students went to the nearby shopping shopping mall that's a big one. there they were met by police in riot gear and the situation deteriorated rapidly. and i think what happened was these students that went out to

protest all the events surrounding freddie gray's death. throughout the last two weeks the police have been in ordinary uniforms with ordinary caps on but not today. it looks like that inflamed the situation. the protesting and rioting moved on to an area about half a mile away from where i stand in the moment. tony you know the city well. the area that we're here in now close to the church are freddie gray's funeral service was held this morning. in the past it was a very up market area for african-americans. there were jazz clubs and upmarket shopping center. since the riots of the 1960s it went down markedly. that is the cvs on fire. other stores have been looted their shop fronts smashed in. there was a fire bomb put together. that's why that cvs is burning

out of control. and the rioters, the loot eshgsz i don't know what to call them at this point, the protesters whatever word you choose looting liquor stores and drinking openly in the streets. we're also getting reports that they are moving towards the downtown district and crucially into the mount vernon area of the city which is a very upmarket area of the city. in short it's not even dusk here yet. it's still -- what is the time? it's after 7:00 in the evening. there's still a lot of light around, and i think people are very very concerned, tony about what's going to happen when nighttime comes. i think the sense is that the police may have lost control of this little bit, particularly with the looters moving through mount vernon. we have to wait and see how this plays out. it's not looking good. >> no, no. i think everyone should be wary of nightfall in baltimore. john terrett for us.

he's a baltimore sun crime reporter at the protest earlier. justin good to talk to you, first of all. help us with the reporting on this. when did things begin to gel? when did things begin to get tense? our understanding and is maybe you can correct our knowledge on this is it was shortly after the end of the funeral services for freddie gray. >> reporter: here's how we understand it. earlier in the day there was a flyer going around on social media that announced a purge. this is a reference to a movie that came out a few years ago where there's no laws for a period of like 24 hours, and you can do anything you want. >> oh yeah. >> right. so frankly, this is something that goes around every now and then. there's a thing, and we see it. people forward it to us and say, are you aware of this? is this real? police tend to boost up their presence downtown. it usually doesn't turn out to be anything.

well, today the same thing went around and because of the climate here police took it very seriously. they alerted all of the downtown businesses and institutions to send their employees home early. and where this so-called purge was supposed to start was the mondamin mall near west baltimore near two large high schools and its a transportation hub where many students catch buses to go home. there are not yellow school buses in baltimore. kids ride public transportation. so purge or not, there was going to be a lot of kids at that -- in that area at that time when school let out. well, your correspondent was correct. the police had an incredible number of officers in riot gear and pretty quickly they started chanting and throwing rocks at the officers. i was there, and i really can't tell you what led to the unrest that followed. i saw on twitter that the police department said that a police

car was being vandalized and an officer was injured about a mile south. i ran down there as quick as i could, and the scene was just -- there's no other words other than chaotic. i got into the middle of it and there was a real true sense of lawlessness. the police were there, but they weren't taking action. people were mashing things hurting each other, taking things and nothing was being done. so more people started to join in. i think the word spread on social media, and you saw people flocking from all over the place. it really spiralled out of control. >> so we had a reporter -- actually a photographer for the baltimore city paper who suggested that police should have could have done more and i hear in your response you're a bit surprised that more wasn't done by the police in the earliest stages of this. am i characterizing that correctly? >> reporter: you know i'm not sure tactically what the best

response in a situation like this is. i can tell you that they did form lines and stood there. they were watching. people threw things at them and inside that perimeter, police cars were being ransacked. i watched people get a crowbar and open up the back of a police cruiser, and all kinds of weapons and equipment are kept back there. they were trying to set it on fire. they opened the gas tank and they had lighters. and all the businesses started to get looted and then the roads weren't shut down. north avenue is a major thoroughfare an east/west thoroughfare. despite the police lines to the north and south, there was no one stopping traffic to the east and west. cars, regular folks were driving through. >> wow. >> this chaotic scene, and then police cars starting to drive through and getting pelted with you know bottles of liquor and juices and anything people could find. i saw a police car almost fishtail and spin out of the

control into a crowd of people because it was hit by so many things. luckily, it didn't happen. i was pulled into an alcove where a group of crips said they would protect me. they said they didn't approve of this and this wasn't the right thing to do. i think it's a big opportunity situation at the moment. >> justin hang on a second. i have one more question for you, but i want to at least share this bit of news we're getting here to al jazeera america. the governor of maryland larry hogan, has declared a state of emergency and activated the national guard. so that's news just coming in just moments ago. justin what i want to understand better is how things devolved really from the peaceful protests everyone has described saturday as a day of peaceful demonstrations how do we go from saturday to this scene today, monday afternoon? what happened? >> reporter: i think saturday

you saw police being restrained. they were praised for their restraint, and people you know breaking into stores and destroying cop cars. that imagery, i can't speak for the folks who are doing the looting, but i think that that imagery, people saw that and said, we can get away with this. we can do this now. that's what i saw at pennsylvania north avenue. i saw people seeing that no one was going to stop them from smashing the window of that mom and pop grocery store. no one will stop them from entering that check cashing store and taking everything they can find. the danger is if people in other parts of the city see that and think they can get away with the same thing, we'll have a tremendous problem. we don't have an issue -- it's not that we don't have enough police officers out there right now. there are untold numbers of police. it's the people see a moment and they seize it. >> justin appreciate it. justin fenton is a crime reporter for "the baltimore

sun." thank you. let's bring in the president of the baltimore chapter of the naacp joining us from baltimore, the headquarters of the naacp. it's a pleasure to have you on the program. i have to ask your thoughts as you watch the scenes unfold throughout the day. >> well i'm really upset about what's going on because this is something that baltimore has not done before. we have never had citizens attack police like this. there's disputes where people fight each other in a neighborhood, but not like that. i believe that maybe it's not any gang members who have initiated any of this. usually gang members fight amongst themselves and they have their rules. i think there's other people that use their name to maybe throw out there so they can get some hype. gang members sometimes -- i know people think gangs are bad, and they don't too things. we've never had anything like

this before and it's a bad day because the family had asked people please don't do any rallies or protests today on the day freddie gray's funeral was held. within one hour after the funeral, this started. >> spare a thought for the officers who are hurt. we have seven officers who are injured, and one we understand has lost consciousness. >> yes. that's sad, because just because there's some few officers that have done things to upset the community and cause harm to people and death, all officers are not bad. so a lot of people are being victimized that shouldn't be. also the stores. i was just talking to a person who called me a little while ago. she was told not to come to work today. she probably won't go to work tomorrow. the people working at cvs who live in that neighborhood adults and young people now at the end of the week they won't have a paycheck. at the end of the week they won't have their rent money. at the end of the week they

can't pay their gas and electric. it's a ripple effect how it hurts the whole community, and especially in the black community. the stores being robbed and things stolen and torn up and on fire these people won't have a job. it will take weeks or months to restore that. suppose some of the stores do not restore? that's something that's left. another thing that people need to understand is some of the people in the street know this. some of the corner stores in our neighborhoods, they let people come in and have credit. they can get milk and cereal and cigarettes or whatever they want until they get paid on friday to help them with their children for lunch and for food. so that hurts everybody. that's going to happen. at the end of the week people are going to be sorry that the corner store and stores in their neighborhood have been damaged. >> talk about from the naacp's perspective the frustration of young people in the baltimore community? it's not just baltimore. we know that at this point.

we see limited opportunities for their lives and see an education system where they can't maximize it. they can't necessarily get what they need and i certainly know the problems with the baltimore school system. so talk about those frustrations. not in the context of trying to explain this what we're seeing but just as that parallel reality. >> well i guess with the naacp speaking from the naacp's point, i see the good the bad and the ugly. we have the axle program, so we have children that excel, but most children are not excelling. they don't have extracurricular programs in nir school. they don't have books. a lot of children don't even have rain gear. to get to school. we have lots of problems. then when the system lets you down in some neighborhoods with vacant homes and the schools -- we had three or four schools to close.

children know their schools are closing, so they have to go to a different school further away from their neighborhood. some of the parents are doing the best they can. we have children and some of the children out in the street that are 17 or 18 they're not going to school or they have dropped out. we need to help them. the children and the young at all times -- adults need help. it's not justifying what they're doing. the naacp is very concerned. i got a phone call from the chair person and she just called me. wee we're trying to solve some of the problems, but that's down the road. right now this is a devastating situation, and i have some people out on the street that are trying to talk to some of them. i have men that work with the criminal -- we have a criminal justice committee, and they know the street and they know the gang members. we try to engage. if we couldn't do it overnight, we will start first in the morning talking with leaders we have our hands on. >> tessa, good to see you. she's the president in the

baltimore chapter of the naac pp they're monitoring the situation in baltimore. what is the white house reaction at this point? >> reporter: a couple of things tony. we learned that the newly minted attorney general was sworn in this very morning, loretta lynch, and visited with the president at the white house and updated him on the situation there as she understands it. of course the justice department already has an investigation going on into the death of freddie gray. the president for his part spoke with the mayor of baltimore, mayor stephanie raul rollins-blake about the situation there. senior adviser to the president valerie jarrett spoke with the newly minted governor of maryland larry hogan. he has not yet deployed the national guard. a lot watch the situation unfold

on the streets of baltimore and think that's possibly the next step. jarrett spoke with a noted representative congressman elijah cummings from baltimore. the white house is watching this situation closely. this comes on the heels of what we've already noted in ferguson and staten island and cleveland and elsewhere. the justice department has been very active but something they have struggled with over the course of the last six months. relations between minorities particularly african-americans, and law enforcement. now, again, exploding on the streets of a major american city. tony. >> for sure for sure. mike viqueira for us in washington. thank you. dante berry is with us. dante, look. you don't condone the violence but you understand the frustration. and the question you're asking is how does that get expressed?

right? let me have your thoughts on it and expand on your sense of understanding of frustration and yet understanding as well that officers can't be hit with bricks and everything right? >> yeah. i think that this is how it works, right? it's how we have a narrative that black people are criminals and the narrative that black people are evil. we're seeing it play out in different ways. definitely code of language but i think what we're seeing right now in baltimore and what you're seeing across the country is just a continued frustration in a system. every single day we're hearing about another family who is losing a loved one, and we may or may not find any form of

justice. i personally don't find justice in an indictment. i don't think an indictment provides justice. justice to me looks like having safety in my house and in my community. i think ultimately what the country's wrestling with is this fundamental question about what it means to be safe. and i think these are what folks in baltimore are struggling with right now. do having a high intense police presence equal safe? that's questionable. i -- a friend of mine does this exercise where she always asks people she's with close your eyes and imagine feeling safe. what are the places that make you feel safe? who is around you? what does it feel like? if you raise your hand often more times than none police presence and jail cells and body cameras are not even in the equation. how do we manifest this

conversation about what does it mean to be safe? where it looks like there's jobs there's affordable health care education. there's having a bed to sleep in. how do we manifest this? right now in baltimore the folks that are on the front lines and are expressing their frustration probably don't have any of those. so how do we create that space? >> 8% unemployment in baltimore, and at the height of double-digit unemployment in the country. >> 30% for african-american men. >> when you're living as black or brown in this country, you're not only just trying to -- you're just trying to survive. you're not trying to thrive but survive. >> tony we have to preface that nothing we say now excuses what we see on television. when you talk about the fact that as these kids graduate from

school, and i'm speaking as a former professor now, when they graduate they don't get the million dollar paying job. their idea of the american dream is played out on television by what they see rappers get. they don't have the dream of coming up with a dot com solution to their life. when you talk about a 30% unemployment rate you're talking about a 30% unemployment rate where the job they might have wanted to get was that job at a mcdonald's where minimum wage was the salary. life is much different for certain people. >> we're going to take a break. these are live pictures from baltimore. i believe we're still in west baltimore. that looks familiar to me. we'll take a break, and we'll come back with our conversation. what i'd love to tee up is jamal bryant reverend jamal bryant offered the eulogy today for freddie gray. dante, we're engaged in a really spirited conversation on great terms and a great spirit and i

want you to hear a bit of that conversation when we come back. we will be back in just a couple of moments with our continuing coverage of the situation in baltimore and the other news of the day. e day.

this is another major story on this day. it's about 5:00 in the morning in nepal, and thousands have spent another night outside fearful of being inside in the event of another powerful aftershock. the death toll from the 7.9 quake has risen to more than 4,000. the state department says that includes at least four americans. the united states has sent tons of humanitarian aid and specialized search and rescue teams to nepal. a drone captured video that shows the scale of the devastation in the capital of kathmandu as andrew simmons reports for us now, a severe shortage of necessary supplies is only adding to misery there.

>> reporter: they're fighting over sheets of plastic. anything resdmrem bells shelter is in short supply. tents aren't available now, and the crowds are either homeless or refusing to return to houses for fear of another earthquake. this is where many of them have come from from street to street it's the same. homes destroyed. the army is trying to save lives, but their success rate has diminished. their efforts now are more directed at recovering bodies. this officer is frustrated that he hasn't got specialized search equipment. we have to workman you'lly, he tells me. it would really help if we had equipment like sensors. this is the sort of scene you come across all over this district. this had been a really close community, and now look at it. two families had lived amongst

these ruins. now five people are dead. he's recovered some family photos from the rubble. his only son, sonny, was 10 years old here. he's dead now, aged 21. you found him here? >> yeah, i found him here. how i found the dead body of my son with his head down and legs up. >> reporter: you must feel broken? >> not broken. everything in my life is full and finished. >> reporter: he watches over as soldiers use their bare manneds in the search for the son's grandmother who was 87. a short distance away loss of a different kind. this is the square one of nepal's seven unesco sites

devastated by the quake venlt four buildings dated back to the 14th and 15th century have been damaged. for now the priority is life what's left of it. not nepal's rich and valuable history. these women say they've given up any hope of finding their relatives. they're among more than 50 people who had lived at the end of this street. no one here wants to live in a building until they're convinced it's safe. the constant fog of funeral pyre smoke hangs over there, as if a reminder is needed in how the earth shock and consumed so many people's lives. >> we should say the secretary of state john kerry said today that the united states is pledging $10 million in earthquake relief for nepal. other governments pledge money and other assistance. many international aid organizations are also accepting donations including unicef the red cross, world vision cares, samaritan

samaritan's purse, save the children and oxfam. we're getting a look at the terrifying moment that an avalanche caused by the earthquake engulfed a base camp at the summit of mt. everest. take a look. >> [ bleep ], [ bleep ], [ bleep ]. >> can you imagine? so a german climber captured the moment that a wall of snow and rocks hit the camp. there was literally nowhere to run. the climber who filmed this video survived but at least 18 other climbers and guides were killed. of course we're keeping eyes on baltimore right now where protests have turned violent, and crowds are throwing rocks at police as well as burning vehicles. we're back in a moment.

violence in baltimore as police and protesters clash on

the streets. angry demonstrators attacked police leading to at least seven injured officers. there's been reports -- not reports. we saw it and watched it live here. looted businesses and cars set on fire and athat a few hours after the funeral for freddie gray. >> the police hit me and another car hit me and ran, and nobody is doing nothing. nobody is doing nothing. all the kids are up there on my car. they're dancing on my car and busting my windows and everything man. i mean people just tired of the police brutality, but it shouldn't deflect on the community like this. the police should be more organized on how they run these streets and what they're doing because they're causing people -- that's a bmw. i worked hard for that. now i got tens of kids. look at all those kids down there dancing on my bmw in the

middle of the street. what am i going to do now as a community member without this? this shouldn't reflect on the community like this. come on you all. i'm just a businessman. >> maryland governor larry hogan declared a state of emergency and activated the national guard. let's go to john terrett from baltimore with more. john. >> reporter: that's the headline. larry hogan inviting in the national guard and imposing a state of emergency on this city. within the past hour or so the mayor of baltimore, stephanie -- anyway, she's the mayor of baltimore. her name is rollins-baker. that's right. she's been speaking -- rollins rollins-blake. she's been speaking to president obama who offered all his support including anything that

she requires to keep the peace here in this city. now, what happened this afternoon is that there was a large breakout from school of some stupts at the high school. they went to a near by mall called the mondamin mall and there the police turned up rather heavy-handedly. it seems to be from that point onwards things went rather downhill, and the scenes you see on screen at the moment are not far where i'm standing where the funeral service for freddie gray took place earlier today. as you can see, there is a cvs store looted and the protesters are looting liquor stores and mom and pop stores in the area. they're moving through the city to the downtown and also towards the area known as mount vernon which is a well-off area of the city. people are very concerned what will happen here. as you can see, it's barely dusk

at the moment and we are very worried about what will happen when nighttime comes here in baltimore. speaking to this end, jamal bryant was the pastor who delivered the eulogy today at freddie gray's funeral service, and the church i'm standing alongside at the moment. he has said within the past couple of hours what is happening in baltimore now is something that the family absolutely distanced itself from. take a listen. >> this is not what the family asked for today of all days. the family was very clear that this was a day of sacred closure in the funeral. so for us to come out of the burial and walk into this is absolutely inexcusable. i'm asking every young person to go back home. >> reporter: well that is the sentiment of everybody in the city at the moment but i have to tell you that the worry is that the police may have lost control of the situation with people roaming around the city looting and smashing shop

windows and things. we have to see what happens as nighttime falls, but the headline is larry hogan instituting a state of emergency here. >> john terrett in baltimore. dante berry, the million hoodie movement for justice is with us here on set. i want to tee up a bit of a conversation he was engaged in. a wonderful conversation a passionate conversation with pastor jamal bryant who you heard from moments ago who, as john mentioned, tlifred the eulogy for freddie gray. have a listen. so i want you to speak. i'm going to have dante speak directly to you, and i want you to speak to one another. we have a divide right here in this moment because what dante is saying is what we're seeing here is a reflection of years of frustration at the hands of what he describes as state-sponsored

violence against african-americans. you make the point, dante, better than i do. >> i think there's a distinction that we need to make i think, around, one, what does the family define as justice, and how do we support their efforts? but also how do we support the community's effort that is have recognized and realized that this is a systemic issue. that what happened to freddie gray is happening to mike brown is happening to boyd is happening to oscar grant and the continuous other people across the country. there's a distinction we need to make between how do we define justice for them and how do we provide justice that provides justice for all black people. >> dante, let me suggest to you for filling the void for systemic racism i don't know in what orbit of the universal

logical thinking that would line up with looting and taking cell phones. we can't go to lawlessness that because of oppression and because of barriers that gives you a license to completely abandon the law. we have never as a people found ourselves in reckless undisciplined behavior to be a reflection of our way of overall change. i think that it lives up to a stereotypical notion that we are a lawless, simple people with no standard conscience or barriers. i vehemently oppose the principle about what you suggest. >> i didn't say anything about breaking a law and condoning it. >> basical you disagree -- >> i said what is the appropriate level of response to state-sanctioned violence that has been perpetuated on black and brown people not just in the context of freddie gray but for the entire lives.

how do you respond to that? i think there's a level of respectability there that we need to like equate to think about what -- how do you best respond to violence that's continuously perpetuated on people and people are just frustrated. >> how do you respond? dante is with us and i want to bring into the discussion jami floyd, our legal contributor. we haven't heard from you on this today. >> i'm smiling because on even such a painful day it's an honor to be sitting here with dante. >> right, right. on this day in a city that i love this is happening. what are your thoughts as you were watching what was going on today? as you heard in a couple of moments one of the cap pains of baltimore city police department very emotional in talking about his officers who were injured. >> yeah. >> and regardless what the

officer is saying is regardless of the grievances this level of lawlessness cannot happen in this city. and then maybe speak to what dante and jamal were talking about in that wonderful debate. >> and respectful conversation. >> what are your thoughts? >> well this has been simmering, i feel in baltimore for weeks, for months for years. probably all of my lifetime. i mean i've been visiting baltimore since the 1980s, and i've been studying it as a lawyer and as a lover of justice since the '90s seriously. i cannot say i'm surprised by what is happening. but it is happening in the context of all of those other fallen brothers and sisters that dante mentioned. i think the question about appropriate response is an

appropriate question. but there is a distinction between riot and revolution. and revolution is planned and prepared and it has leadership. i believe we are sorryely lacking leadership. i also think that -- you see it on social media, this quote from dr. king that right yot -- riot is the language of the voiceless. it acts like dr. king would approve of riot but he absolutely did not. riot is self-destructive and hurts our community i think in this case and in most cases more than the people against whom we think we are rioting. and history reflects that. i have now -- minei mean getting older is not a pleasant thing, but you get the longview of

history. i've now seen why. i've seen watts. i've seen los angeles in the wake of rodney king and i can name unrest. i don't like to call them riots, but it's so loaded. unrest after unrest after unrest. the question is what do we gain if anything from it? i really do want to ask, you know, as dr. dyson and dr. west battle it out in the -- two men i love love and know personally and respect. as they battle it out in the ivory towers of america, where is our leadership? if we're going to have violence in the streets, as is in revolution revolution, in our great american revolution john adams said if you're going to tear something down what do you plan to put in its place? what is the purpose of revolution? this is not a revolution. there is a simmering that came to boil in baltimore for a

reason. it's because we're not having the conversations we need to be having about race in america. >> i want to get back to this point that you're not surprised. >> not at all. >> you've been looking at baltimore, studying it closely in the '90s. you've covered a lot of territory there just in that statement. i remember the 80s and the hain problem that led to the crack cocaine epidemic in baltimore, right? i remember that decade that the mayor was in his 12 years there, 10 of these years, a decade of 300-plus murders in that city of 600,000-plus people. >> absolutely. >> you would know that. what that city went through, and how that's a difficult city to police but also a lot of the

ills were supposed to be addressed with this concept of community policing. >> right. and i worked in the white house on community policing in the 1990s. theoretically it's a good thing. theoretically. we have i believe, a militarized police state that is rooted in jim crow and reconstruction. this is not a 1970s, '80s, '90s model. this goes back to reconstruction. this is historical. >> you have made that point consistently when we've talked. >> i believe it. >> you really have. >> i think what we have is a war on the black man in america. it's not just about the -- and as dante said before i came on set, it seems like every day we hear about another black man dying at the hands of the police

officer. it's not just about those sad souls that we've lost. it's about mass incarceration. it's about, as you were talking about, joblessness. it is a mass historical problem we have never addressed in this country. i see you sighing. >> i hear you. take a look at this. >> if we don't take it on we won't get past it. >> before i get you to respond, and i want you to respond, i want you to take a look. both of you tie a look at the pictures on the screen now. we have religious leaders enter. >> at least we have leaders. >> they're marching and the purpose is to stop the violence. and the understanding is that wherever there are hotspots they will keep marching and the idea is to quell, to quiet of storm.

dante, i interrupted you. go ahead. >> yeah no. i think this is the perfect reason why we would say sanctions of violence right? this is encompassing not just around policing but the industrial complex as she calls it. it's the ways in which communities of color, black and brown people are criminalized through the prisons, through policing and also through surveillance which is going to follow. what you've seen also in ferguson where people were surveilled because they were protesting. so i think when we look at this this is the ways in which black and brown people are deprived of their dignity. they're deprived of having justice, and not justice -- we can't find justice in the justice system already, so we need to create what the justice is and that is how do we get out of this control of the pic and with the way that we see it. how do we give jobs and create

and think about safety beyond policing? we're giving an investment in the community. >> for anyone watching who might assume this is paranoia this is not real. >> it's not paranoia. >> i would suggest to you, jamie, there's the justice department report. >> oh yes. >> right out of ferguson. >> yeah. >> and if you read through that that was the pattern of practice. >> 102 pages. >> right? philadelphia and cleveland, ohio. >> sure sure. >> where the justice department conducted its investigation and found a pattern of -- >> a law enforcement agency by the way. justice is hardly progressive. what is amazing to me and i feel unique -- i rarely you know toot my own horn. but i feel uniquely qualified to speak to this as a multi-racial

person who grew up in the projects but then was given the opportunity to go to elite schools, to go to law school to sort of access the places of white privilege, to work in the white house. if everybody could just switch places for a day, do you know what it feels like to go to a militarized public school? to walk through the metal detector every day whether you go to school? to as a child be told we think of you as a criminal and you're going to have to walk through a metal detector before you can sit down and be taught, and we won't talk about the resources in the public school. the fact 50% of the kids drop out before they graduate high school. >> a metal detector to keep the criminals out? >> or to keep them in. >> keep them in. >> it's the psychology of being black and brown in america. >> that's all over the country. that's all over the country. baltimore, new york city. >> the school says that you have bars on your windows.

what is the expectation that you're going to pursue if you're going to get out of that condition? >> exactly. and the psychology of living in a neighborhood where you might be shot just sitting in your living room watching a soap opera. >> let me ask a quick question here, because i want to get to the captain's sound because i want you to deal with thises picture of the story today, and that's the injured officers and violence perpetrated on those officers which no one can condone. listen to baltimore police captain who spoke earlier about the injured officers. this is from earlier today. >> on saturday we saw the best of baltimore. we saw protests that were peaceful as the city came together to voice frustration and share their concerns with this police department. a small group of agitators turned that protest violent, and you saw remarkable restraint from our officers. remarkable restraint.

this afternoon a group of outrageous criminals attacked our officers. right now we have seven officers with serious injuries including bohn bones and one officer who is unconscious. we will do whatever is appropriate to protect the safety of our police officers and ensure the safety of the people that live and work in the mondamin area. we have officers deployed throughout the city to make sure that we can continue to deliver police services to the citizens of baltimore. we will continue to keep the city safe. our officers are working as quickly and as appropriately as they can to bring about order in the area of mondamin and affect arrest of the criminals that attacked our police officers. >> reporter: captain, can you tell us exactly how the officers were injured? >> we're still in the middle of the situation. it's still happening. we know as this is going on that

seven officers as of right now have been injured. the exact circumstances that took place that led to their injuries something we will determine at a later date. we'll go back and do an investigation, and we will find the people that are responsible and we will put them in jail. [ inaudible question ] >> right now it's a group of lawless individuals with no regard of those that live in the community or the safety of the police officers who are there to ensure that the people who live and work in that area could do so safely. >> reporter: ( inaudible ). >> i don't know who is out there right now. that's something we can determine as this event goes on. what we do know is they're criminals. they attacked officers without provocation provocation. they have no regard for the people that live in the community, and our officers are working hard to bring about order. i'm not going to speculate with what it's related to. you can hear officers responding

behind me. right now we're focusing on the people in that community safe and that our officers are safe. >> reporter: do you know the size of the group that you're dealing with right now? >> i don't have an estimate of the size right now. obviously, it's a large group of people spread out over a significant area. our officers are deploying as quickly as they can. the primary concern is making sure that our officers stay safe. we have seven officers injured during the course of this. they have broken bones and one sun is unresponsive. this is not okay. we went out to the situation to make sure the people were safe and we will continue to do kwha we can to make sure they stay safe. we have that obligation to the city. [ inaudible question ] >> i don't want to speculate about any correlation between the two. this morning we received a threat run through our intelligence section. that threat was determined to be credible, so we took the precautions to make sure it was

distributed but to law enforcement agencies nationwide. >> reporter: [ inaudible ] >> reporter: what sore of preparations will you take throughout the night if this continues? >> it's too early to respond toe that right now. we're doing what we do in these types of situations to bring about order. you're going to see tear gas and pepper balls. we will ensure the safety of that community. >> reporter: what was the genesis of [ inaudible ]. >> i don't want to get into that right now. our focus right now is to let people in the community know that we're doing what we can to ensure their safety. we're sending extra resources and deploysing resources to the neighborhood. >> the brick rocks were

[ inaudible ]? >> we know that rocks are being thrown and bricks are thrown and our officers have been placed in harm's way and seven have been injured. we'll do what we can to make sure another officer isn't. again, you will see us use appropriate measures like tear gas and pepper balls. as we're able to provide more information later in the night, we will do so. thank you very much. >> okay. the captain from earlier today. take a look at the live pictures now from baltimore. boy. my vision is ternlrible. i can't make out the street. it's west baltimore. adam may from "america tonight" is walking with community leaders in baltimore and is on the phone with us. adam, if you would, you worked in that community, lived in that community. if you would, first of all, tell us exactly where you are and who you're walking with and what you're hearing. >> reporter: tony this is a developing situation right now. i'm standing next to congressman

and i was joined with a couple hundred faith leaders here in baltimore. they all joined hands and marched right into the center where this rioting is taking place. the congressman is holding handing with smuft some of the major leaders from the big churches in baltimore. he's walking directly up to the police line. he's about 20 feet away right now where you have a couple hundred police officers all stands there with their shields up walking directly towards the police. i'm not sure what the message is going to be at this point, but all of the chaos happening here right in the center of this part of the city has had it come to a stand still with this scene unfolding right here. let me walk a little bit closer. the congressman is standing here with some leaders of the police department right now. they just shook hands, and they're having a peaceful quiet conversation right here in the middle of the city.

>> wow, that's astonishing. so help me get oriented again. so this is fulton and what? >> fulton and north avenue. >> wow. >> that is the center here right there where we look around to the corners. this is where you see convenience stores and liquor stores that have been looted with broken-out windows. a lot of people here standing in the streets still. there's broken glass everywhere but the congressman is right now meeting and having a really interests conversation here with the police officers. let me look over here and describe for you the line of probation officers right now. they have face shields on. they are carrying sticks. they have shields up. it's a line of about three deep. right behind that you have tacts cal s.w.a.t. vehicles. tony, you mentioned i have lived in this community for more than a decade now. to see this unfold on this street corner is something no

one ever thought they would see happen here in baltimore. >> yeah. so let me just to sort of dial it down even a little more closely here how close are you to douglas high school and m owe ndamin mall a couple flash points today? >> reporter: kind of right in between those areas a few blocks in either direction. you can head to either one of those areas. excuse me. i'm caught in the middle a little bit here. le me kind of reverse what's happening here. there's the shaking of the hand between law enforcement and the faith leaders, and now they're turning around and it's almost as if what i heard one of them say is white it out and sweep the street. these faith leaders are singing songs as they go through here. they're trying to bring some sense of calm to the streets of baltimore. we'll see how effective this is. i have noticed that there are people here that were kind of milling around and standing and

they're now joining hands with faith leaders as well as they get ready to turn around and march the other direction. right behind them is the line of police officers. this is curious in the next minute or so if the police officers follow suit and let the face leaders lead the march and then the police come up right behind them. >> this is a question for you, adam. you have the faith leaders, and you've got the police. >> yes. >> and congressman is having a conversation. now, are there any young people who might have -- i don't know this for sure -- who might have been part of the demonstration group following the faith leaders? i'm wondering who is behind the faith leaders at this point. >> good question. who is behind the faith leaders? there are definitely members of this community that have had a enough. there's a woman here with the younger kids. we're live on tv. can i ask you why are you out

here with your children? >> i'm scared. >> okay. adam we're going to leave you for a moment and let you do your work. we want to listen to stephanie rollins-blake. she's the mayor of baltimore. we've been anticipating this news conference and update for the last hour or so. let's listen to her. >> thank you for being here this evening. what we see tonight that is going on in our city is very disturbing. it is very clear there is a difference between what we saw over the past week with the peaceful protests. those who wish to seek justice, those who wish to be heard and want answers, and the difference between those protests and the thugs who only want toen cite violence and destroy our city. i'm a life-long resident of

baltimore. too many people have spent generations building up this city. for it to be destroyed by thugs who in a very senseless way are trying to tear down what so many have fought for. tearing down businesses tearing down and destroying property. things that we know will impact our community for years. we are deploying every resource possible to gain control of this situation and to ensure peace moving forward. i've been in contact with our governor, and he has agreed and i requested and he agreed to deploy the national guard as soon as they are available. they will be immediately

deployed. a curfew will be in effect instituted tomorrow. the curfew citywide 10:00 p.m. to 5:00 a.m. again, there will be a citywide curfew 10:00 p.m. to 5:00 a.m. this preliminary curfew will last for one week and be extend extended as it is necessary. let me be clear. we already operate under a juvenile curfew and those young people who are 14 and under have a 9:00 p.m. curfew because it is a school night. over 14 it's 10:00 p.m. that is tonight and every school night. again. we have ordered a curfew with the emergency operation center to be available to have an administration for a reason.

i want to thank city council president jack young for being here. i want to thank councilman who are here on behalf of governor hogan and for all of your work coordinating this response. i'm going to ask colonel de souza to speak, and then i will ask council president jack young. colonel. >> thank you, ma'am. i'm colonel darrell de souza, the chief of patrol for baltimore city police department. at this point i just want to mejs a couple of things real quick. like the mayor said we love our baltimore city. right now we're seeing unprecedented types of violence throughout the city. mainly towards the west side of baltimore. we're not going to tolerate that. the police department is not going to stand for that. we're fully dep