>> hi everyone, this is al jazeera america. i'm john seigenthaler. >> uneasy calm after the violence in baltimore. an army of officers line the streets and president obama says attention must be paid. >> if we don't pay tanks to these communities when. >> showdown over same-sex marriage. a sharply divided supreme court takes up the heated debate. and anguish and anger.

a catastrophe in nepal the natural disaster becomes a humanitarian crisis. >> we begin with a day of baltimore. a day with looting fires stemming from the death of freddie gray. the man who died in police custody. curfew is set at 10:00 p.m. eastern time and monies of law enforcement officers and national guard are there to keep the peace. by and large the riots gave way to the cleanup. we're in baltimore tonight john? >> reporter: good evening to you. i would characterize the mood as festive. that's interesting. because 24 hours ago this was

the epicenter of the rock throwing and the brick throwing and the firebombing and the looting of shops. this is the area that you saw yesterday burning. today it's a different sort of atmosphere. people are enjoying the cool evening sunshine. some people have been dancing. there are cheerleaders there as well. but the big question is can this last as darkness falls? attention in baltimore police face off in the west of the city seen as some of the worst rioting last night. a police helicopter loud speaker barking instruction tots crowd circles over head. it's here that the first cvs stores was set alight and looted. this woman worked here and now she's out of a job. >> this is our home.

they're destroying the neighborhood. stop the violence please. we don't need this. >> the governor is being tested after months of taking office. he has called a state of emergency and brought in the national guard. they say every available resource will be used to avoid a repeat of last night. >> tonight we'll have 2,000 national guardsmen and 1,000 law enforcement officers on duty. this combined force will not tolerate violence or looting. >> monday's unrest was at its worst in west baltimore in the evening hours but across the city scores of fires were set and looting continued at mostly mom and pop stores just before done. it kicked off when high school students challenged officers at a mall. >> why didn't you move faster? because they're 14- 15-

16-year-old kids. they're old enough to be accountable but they're still kids. >> baltimore's mayor also under fire for comments that many think encouraged monday's fire you don't know all the moving pieces. we work very swiftly and it's a balancing act when we have to make sure that we're managing but not increasing and escalating the problem. >> it's clear that lessons will have to be learned. civil rights advocates jesse jackson is in town with a list of things that he said washington, d.c. barely 50 miles away needs.

>> a plan for urban reconstruction must be heard and invested in. >> the baltimore orioles canceled a baseball game tonight and they'll play tomorrow but they won't let anybody in. the police say they're policing the area tight tonight. there are riot police up the road. they say all is peaceful at the moment but the curfew will kick in at 10:00. >> thank you. cornell william brooks the president of the nc co naacp. let me get your reaction to the violence we saw yesterday. where does baltimore constant tonight?

>> whichwe observed and held for freddie gray. there was looting and violence. we made clear that loot and violence is not a sympathy card for flowers for a hurting family or hurting and bruised community. but the important thing for us to know is there. there were a thousand people or so who volunteered to clean up in this city. early in the morning we saw people all across this city, all across these neighborhoods cleaning up streets they did not dirty or sully. shoring up businesses and that's a test of their character to the people in baltimore and it a indicates their resolve and commitment to bring justice not only for freddie gray, but justice for this ongoing

narrative of young people losing their lives at the hands of police. >> we-- >> we need to be clear we've come to-- >> what does that justice look like? >> what does it look like? >> what does that kind of justice look like? >> what it looks like is this: we need to fundamentally change policing in this country so we focus on community policing so policing is carried out in a way that respects the community and engenders a trust of community so prosecutions are easier. police officers are made more safe and fundamentally most importantly communities are safer. secondly, where people violate rights, officers who have a badge and a gun violate rights, they need to be held accountable. officers need to be indicted when they engage in unlawful conduct, and some may need to go to jail. that's the kind of accountability we need.

at the federal level we need to see the passage of the end of the racial profiling act. >> i just wanted to ask you since the city of baltimore is run about by an african american why haven't they made those thanks? >> the challenge across the country is one that impacts the african-american and latino communities disproportionately. all the members in this cast of characters are not all white all black or all latino. this problem of unaccountable police something not color coded. the fact that you have an african-american mayor or african-american commissioner of police does not represent the solution to the problem. we need to fundamentally change

policing. here's the reality. if you're mistreated by someone who wears a blue uniform and has a gold badge and their skin happens to be black that mistreatment does not feel any better. so the mayor needs to engage the justice department. this is a problem all across the country. not merely in baltimore. the naacp is he had quartered in baltimore. this is our hometown. thurgood marshall made his home here in baltimore. we care about this program. we care enough about it to simply say it doesn't matter if the mayor is african-american. it doesn't matter the color of the officers. what matters is the safety of the citizens and the safety of young people. we need to change policing in a fundamental way.

that we can do because this has been done in places across the country in terms of community policing. >> i know it's one of the reasons that you're opening a satellite office in baltimore. what do you hope to achieve with that? >> what we hope to achieve is this by opening a satellite office in a community of west baltimore we're attempting to do a few things. number one if police interact with people in an unlawful

manner how do people interact, how do they respond to questions that comport with the constitution with "o" with our highest constitutional and moral values. number three we want to serve the community as well as being a facilitator of social services. we want to be present on the ground. the naacp at the grassroots level we have a branch that has been here for decades and decades. the naacp has been here at the headquarters. it has been here for generations. we want to show the community that we care and we do the workday in and day out whether there are cameras here. whether there are affiliates here satellite trucks here we are here. because we are the naacp and we have to do this. >> cornell brooks. it's good to have you on the program. thank you very much. problems repeat themselves

generation after generation. >> this is not new. it's been going on for decades. without making any excuses for criminal activity taking place we also know if you have impoverished communities that have been stripped from opportunity where children are born in into abject poverty they've got parents often because of substance abuse problems or incarceration, or lack of education they can't do right by their kids it's more likely that those kids end up in jail or dead than they go to college. >> our mike viqueira has more on what the president had to say from the white house mike? >> down, you're right. he was in the rose garden with the japanese prime minister.

but his remarks were about baltimore. while he condemned the violence he asked for a national soul searching. >> people who trash baltimore are criminals and thugs say president obama, and there is no excuse for think violence. when individuals get crowbars and start prying open doors to loot they're not protesting. they're not making a statement. they're stealing. they're burning down a building and committing larceny. >> tensions are not new but are part of a slow-rolling crisis that has lasted for decades. the president has struggleed for support for police. >> from the trayvon martin case. >> if i had a son, he would look

like trayvon. >> the president of the united states is deeply invested. the. >> president invest millions for police body cameras. transferring military-style hardware to law enforcement. and data broken down by democratics to be made graphic. after eric garner was killed in a struggle with new york police the president again pledged change. i'm not interested in talk. i'm interested in action. >> in early march president obama called for a broad overhaul of the criminal justice system since then walter scott was shot in the back by a police officer in south carolina, and freddie gray died from spinal injuries allegedly sustained while in custody of police in baltimore. as a major american city in violence, community leaders are

describing conditions that drive people to the streets. >> they have nothing to lose. that's a terrifying situation when you have nothing to lose and you're ready to go on video on camera and carry out actions that you know could land you in jail for life. >> 40 miles away the president appeared to agree. much of what we're seeing, he says, is the result of poverty poor education and lack of investment in minority communities and real change needs more than rhetoric from washington. >> it would require everybody saying this is important. this is significant. we don't just pay attention to these communities when a cvs burns. we don't today pay attention when a sign is shot. >> he has spoken with the mayor of baltimore. he has spoken to the governor of maryland. he's watching the situation closely as it unfold this is evening hoping for a peaceful

protest. >> mike viqueira, thank you. coming up next on this broadcast. divided courts. justice waive the rights of same sex marriage. and death toll climbs and need for food and chesterfield town also climbing for relief in the disaster zone.

>> u.s. supreme court heard arguments over same-sex marriage. it focused on two issues whether states can make ban same-sex marriage or whether they have to recognize same-sex marriage who were legally married elsewhere. >> the justices are divided and along the usual lines. the members of the court argued that it has allowed over time and if they allow same sex

couples to mayor is will not harm heteromarriages. they say it's all about families being treated equal under the law. >> for jim this is an emotional day. he's the lead petitioner before the supreme court. his fight is to be recognized as the surviving spouse on the death certificate of his late husband john arter. the two married in maryland where same-sex marriage is legal but lived in ohio where it is not. >> i love you john. i miss you. >> demonstrators on both sides packed the sidewalk outside of the court. opponents had religious objections and argued the court should not decide this issue.

>> we believe that it's the state's right issue and states have spoken. >> some of the justices have voiced the same concern. >> the issue is not whether there should be same-sex marriage. but who should decide the point. >> all eyes were on justice anthony kennedy expected to be the deciding vote. he seemed torn. the first we, whether to up end the traditional definition of marriage between one man and one woman. >> this definition has been with us for millennia. it's very difficult for the court to say oh well, we know better. later kennedy expressed concern about excluding same-sex couples from marrying. >> i thought that was the whole purpose of marriage, it bestows dignity on both man and womb in a traditional marriage. these parties say they want to

have that, that same ennoblement. >> they say the core definition of marriage will no longer hold. >> you're not looking to uphold the institution but change what the constitution is. >> he said, it states have the right to define marriage and the court should not enact social change of this magazine attitude. >> that'smagnitude. >> that's not i way that our democratic process is supposed to work and there are long term harms to our country and that fundamental liberty. >> there are fundamental rights guaranteed by the constitution. >> you don't decide fundamental rights and equality by a head count. you decide it by representatives

to principles in this country that we've had for a hundred years. >> we just want to be treated equally and to enjoy those same rights responsibilities and protections. we are americans. the front of this building says equal justice under law. that's what i'm looking for. >> now petitions in this case will know soon enough what the decision is. the justice also decide by the end of this term. we should pound out 70% of americans now live in states that do permit same-sex marriage but it is still banned and outlawed in 13 states. >> lisa, thank you very much. jamie floyd is al jazeera's legal contributor. she's in our studio. welcome. how big is this case? the biggest case before the supreme court in the last 30 years? >> it's a very big case.

i would have to look at all the injures prudence and i've been studying the court almost that long. this is a legal geek's day. i was rivetted all day. we had all of baltimore happening at the same time. this is a day of whiplash. you're right this is a big deal especially if they make the big ruling and give same-sex couples a constitutional right. >> we heard some of the fascinating discussion inside the chamber. what struck you? >> well, the vigor of the argument the pace of the arguments, the level of engagement i do want to say john people should listen to this. they have don't always release this argument. i've been arguing for a camera in this room for 20 years i don't know if we'll get that. this citizen close as you'll get. it's rivetting even if you just listen. the "washington post" has put up a terrific thing on their website where they have a descriptter that leads to bits

of the audio. even if you're not a legal geek like i am you can follow long really easily, and really is fascinating if you're interested in the same-sex marriage or religious thoughts on the other side. >> usually the petitioners come forward, and they tell the court here are the questions we want you to decide. will you take this case and decide this. the justices usually don't mess around with those questions. either they're interested in the questions or they're not. they took the case, and they rewrote the questions present bid they came up with two very simple questions. >> what does that mean? >> it means i think they're going to make a big decision. some people are parsing it. maybe it means that john roberts wants to take control of the issue and make a limited decision but i don't think

john. the first question is do gay couples have a right to marry under our constitution. that's the clearest kind of question that you'll get. and second, smaller question is if there is a fundamental right to marry into the constitution for gay couples then do those states that don't give a right to marry do they have to receive recognition of a marriage that occurred in states that did have a right to mayor. >> jamie, thank you very much. >> my pleasure. >> saudi arabia said that three men who planned to attack riyadh are among isil members who are now under arrest. three men were planning a suicide car bomb attack and the u.s. embassy. dozens of other suspects were planning to attack residential compounds and prisons. isil called on follow necessary

saudi arabia to stage attacks there. instead of traveling to syria to join the group. now to nepal the devastating earthquake there. the death toll stands at 4600 tonight. and it's sure to keep growing. 8million people have been displaced. the biggest problem right now treating the thousands of injured. the hospitals are simply overwhelmed. and andrew simmons have from nepal. >> reporter: it's an operation that only stops for refueling and briefings. while the military may have been mobilized quickly it haven't been enough to bring the relief this country so desperately needs. beyond the sprawl of nepal's capital is where the extra effort is needed most. >> from this altitude you can see how inaccessible this terrain is to the special forces rescuers. they really have a colossal job

on their hands. >> they said they can't search for people trapped without landing down in niece locations. the number of dead is unknown. this is one of the many further disasters in the wake of the quake and it's aftershocks. defending the operation against international criticism. insistinginsisting that few counting how many have been saved. >> one helicopter of the nepalese army. 68 missions in one 24-hour cycle, pulled out 370 people. >> landing in the town it isn't long before the commander sees his ground forces in action.

in a hospital that should be treating less than 300 patients. right now the figure stands at 800 and doctors admit that the situation is at breaking point. mula lama has a serious back injury. she has come over 100 kilometers for treatment on a board. there are no trolleys or mats or beds left. that's doctors have been working since saturday. >> we have to help them. >> the treatment starts as the casualties keep coming in. people continue to get injured when buildings collapse. offer because of after shocks. others have been travel long distances for treatment. they will be forgiven for

thinking the earthquake just happened. andrew simmons nepal. >> cleaning up in baltimore after monday's rioting. plus.

>> this is al jazeera america. i'm john seigenthaler. >> dividing line. money, race, and a reality of living in baltimore. show of support. >> i decided to go out and do the next best thing. help get our community back together and show a round of support. >> a community stands up against the violence. their stories. their faces. plus race against time. the earthquake in nepal as the death toll rises as they struggle to save survivors. >> a night of looting and burning, business owns are

faking stock cleaning up and residents are pitching in. it's a different picture in baltimore. peace and cooperation following a night of violence and fury. paul beben. >> the people of west baltimore came together for help, healing and to kick start the cleanup. overnight this corner shopping center was hit hard. a rite aide ripped to shreds, a laundromat ransacked. but this morning the parking lot is a rally point and a place for swapping stories of neighbors looking out for each other. so your neighbors were here before you were to protect your store? >> i neighbors were incredible. >> so what happened here in the store? they had broken into the laundromat and came through the wall. >> we had a confrontation with some of the people who were looting. they were in rite aid. they were driving in with vans, shopping and leaving.

i called the police 911. someone put me on hold. i told her i know you're having a busy night but we're having a problem up at the shopping center. i need an officer. we're being attacked. never came. >> sixth grade teacher said that she's here to show support. and sent a message. >> my students are here with their families. it's really important i think as a community we come together, and we show that we're all here. >> have a couple, broom, drills the sound of a community coming forward. a few blocks away a national police and national guard presence signs that this crisis is not over yet. things could still tip the wrong way at any given moment. but so many here determined to stop that from happening. >> to people who want to commit violence and destroy everything and be ignorant, stay home. stay out of sight, out of mind.

there are people who are trying to fix something and get justice for freddie gray and his family. let them handle it, and respect the wishes freddie gray's family. they said go home, be peaceful. >> here at the corner of north and pennsylvania, the ops tempo is picking up. people are pouring in. we understand that in about a half hour, john, police are going to start announcing, reminding people that at 10:00 the curfew begins. that's going to be the question of how things play out for the rest of the night. >> paul beben, thank you. darren, a former lieutenant at the ny nypd. he's now a professor. welcome back. >> thank you for having me. >> let's talk about what

happened. what mistakes did the place make. >> there were a couple of mistakes. they went out on social media and spoke about anarchy that pushed students out to protest. we're looking at roughly 130 students. they went down to this area and began to protest. these protests became violent. >> and they got a warning. >> absolutely. and the police failed to deploy personnel appropriately. when you hear that a demonstration is about to occur you need to ramp up your resources and handle the situation accordingly. then you had individuals who went into the cvs. there was too much of a waiting game. from experience, historically, whenever we have riotous types of behavior we need to quell the disturbance as quickly as possible. we need to deploy resources as quickly as possible to prevent this from continuing.

>> in some ways that feels like what happened in ferguson, right? >> if you notice generally speaking when you have--when police--we're talking about teenagers. we're talking about kids who are 15 16, 17-year-old 17 years old. when you see the police come into the area that's when you saw them disperse. another strategy that i felt should have been employed. school administrators one would have had a connection with the individuals. they could have made a positive identification for the agitators. secondly there is going to be a psychological connection between the students and the administrator. >> we just lettered paul say people are streaming into one area tonight. it's getting dark. you've got a 10:00 p.m. curfew. this appears to be a showdown again between police, national guard, and plot testers. what happens?

how do you handle it? >> well, the key is you need the proper deployment of resources. yesterday is when the curfew should have started not today. i agree with maintaining the curfew but it should have been started yesterday. at this point they have to actively maintain the perimeter to keep people back. if you notice, when you see the footage the police officers are maintaining these walls and perimeter, so the speak and people are not impeding on those perimeters. >> darren, good to see you. we'll watch what happens tonight. one of the most remarkable images is a woman disciplining one of the young people. her son during the disturbance on monday. we don't know her name. the video shows her grabbing the young man slapping, him and grabbing him away. the baltimore police commissioner praised her action. >> you have one mother who

grabbed one child who had a hood on his ahead you saw her smack her son and i wish more parents took that action last night. >> some are calling her the mother of the year. mark connor peacefully protesting since yesterday. they are in baltimore. welcome to both of you. tell me what it was like last night. >> well, last night was the combination of my involvement during the course of the entire today. i started out on the west side here where we are now progressing to city hall. and at about 5:30, 6:00 p.m. is when folks were exhorted to move to camden yards. that was not part of the official days events. it caused me concern particularly after a fairly long day of rhetoric that maybe had taken penal to a point that was

inappropriate. for the most part people folks were very calm, very peaceful, and of the same mind, that is, and i heard this quote from dozens of people, this is not about racism. this is about justice and this is about moving forward together. >> claire, why did you and your father decide to protest? why have you been part of this? up. >> in is what we believe in. this is wrong what has been happening in this city for years. this has been brought to light by a horrible incident. this is wrong. we want justice and we want it done right. we're adamant about it, that's why we wanted to get involved. >> what some people today have said is that the way protesters, some protesters reacted by burning down buildings and throwing rocks at police was

wrong as well. do you agree? >> i do. and honestly, those people who are perpetrating violence like that, i don't like to put them with protesters. they're angry and they have a voice, and they want to be heard, but that's not a process. it's wrong. there were protests all saturday that were real protests. they weren't violent. they were peacefully protesting. but yes that is wrong. i don't consider people who are agitating like that as protesters. >> mark, how long will you and claire stay out tonight? we're getting close to the curfew? >> well, we'll definitely be home before the curfew. we'll spend a little more time here. it's been very important for me personally to insert myself into the community here as much as i can. i spend a lot of time in parts of town like this. i run an outreach program in

east baltimore for at-risk boys. i know these kids quite well. i'm sorry that some of ours may have been part of the crowd yesterday, but it's important for us to clean up, get up, and move forward. it's also important that we do it together. >> mark and claire, we appreciate you joining us tonight. thank you very much. >> baltimore has one of the highest levels of income inequality in the united states, and freddie gray's neighborhood is among the worst. 34% of people in his neighborhood don't have a high school diploma ma. one-third of the homes are vacant and the level of lead detected in children is seven times higher than the rest of baltimore. dale walter has more. >> in battle these are the economic signs of the times. it has been like that for decades. how long? [ ♪ this film was made by the u.s.

government in the 1950s. it talks about the blight and how to solve the problem. it is called the baltimore plan. >> here is the shame of our american cities. here is the face of our cities we hide. >> while they say it has been like this for too long. >> how many times have we come up with an idea of urban marshal plan. they they would say it's not important. our priorities are this, that, and the other. when you don't have the majority of votes stuff gets tabled and moved aside you keep coming out of it. that's why i got at hell out of the united states congress on my own without being defeated or run out. this is what people see when they take the trains in baltimore. the west side. the side of the city that has exploded. the side that has been begging for change since the baltimore

plan. since that time it has been replaced only by more tough times. all this in a city that has not managed to change as the world around it did. >> final sale. >> at your neighborhood montgomery ward store. >> the mass monthdomry distribution center died when america discovered shopping malls. and the economy showed signs of strain in 2004 it employed more than a thousand people. a month later another thousand jobs from lost. those jobs left and never returned. betrayal runs deep in this city. in 1983 battle mother's colts football team packed up and left town. the team left in the dark of the night. it never returned. baltimore by the numbers tells the whole story. the unemployment rate in baltimore is 8.4%. it is 5.5% for the rest of the

country. among blacks in baltimore it is even worse. for every ten people you see walking these streets six are looking for jobs. most of those people live here on baltimore's west side. so when you see these houses remember these are the houses that burned when the riots hit this town in 1968. decades later they were taken over by the crackup demeanoric crack epidemic in the 1980s. they sit here empty. only time will fell if any of baltimore's plans worked. >> what will it take to fix this situation? just about everything you talk to say it will take a combination of jobs, money and political will on capitol hill. they point to the city's flawed education system. after all people with a bad education system have nothing to lose when they come here.

people who have nothing to lose have to be convinced that one day after decades they have something to gain. >> before we talk about moving forward. you and i sat in a studio from a distance and watched this on television to unfold. what does it feel like you there tonight? >> john, what it feels like here, to tell you the truth is what it felt like when i first got back into town. i worked here earlier. i worked here during 2004 to 2006. when i got here all i could see were boarded up houses and those were the same houses that were boarded up when i left. and those are the same houses that you saw when you came to town. people here are wondering what is going to happen when all of these cameras and all of us go away? are they stuck with the situation in west baltimore? >> is there talk about moving forward? >> there is talk about moving forward. but you hear that among the

politico types. people who don't have a long-term investment here. i talked to a gentleman up the street. he is selling coats. he said i have no doubt when you guys are gone it's going to get bad again. >> del walters. thank you. before the unrest in baltimore dozens of middle and upper class families have been moving into one of the city's most dangerous neighborhoods. it's the same neighborhoods where freddie gray was arrested. morgan radford joins us to explain. this is a story you got into awhile back. >> we were there awhile before. these families moving in saw baltimore's systemic problems of race class segregation long before rioting erupted this week. but they take an unique approach to solving these problems. they move in living side by side with some of the city's most struggling residents. i'll introduce you to new song church who thinks the best way

to change a community is to become part of it. >> the family physician moved here more than five years ago after growing up in a middle class town 20 miles from the city. but why? the city is in the heart of baltimore and is among the most dangerous in the country. >> look at all these houses that are completely boarded up. is that common? >> there are a lot of vacant houses around here. >> as part of a growing group known as relocaters. >> do what you do best. they're christian evangelicals who believe the only way to help poor communities is to move in to them and become neighbors. >> it helps people to live on a more equal plane and see people less of like, i'm coming in to help you and more like we're neighbors. we're figuring this out together. [♪ singing ♪]

>> he's a member of new song a church founded on the idea that everyone should have a personal stake in giving strength to the suffering. >> so we actually take up residents residence. >> that's reverend lewis wilson, the pastor of new song. >> i've been there so much. >> he says about 25 mostly white middle and upper class families at his church have relocated to inner city baltimore. >> you say this church was founded on the principle of incarnational ministry. what does that mean? >> when you think of the word incarnation and you think of christ in heaven. he didn't holler down to heaven while god saved them. he comes down and takes on human form and he invests himself in the struggles of human kind. that's what we try to do. we try to invest ourselves in the struggles of people here.

>> you basically said god was not a commuter god. so i'm not going to be a commuter man. is that what i hear you saying? >> yes yes. >> you really did move into the heart of the town, but let's be real baltimore is one of the top ten most dangerous cities in america. were you scared? >> um, a little bit. like there is scary stuff that happens anywhere in baltimore. there are ways that i sophisticate out. >> after all it is 96% black. >> a lot of these relocaters who have been coming in are white and you're black. and the majority here are back. >> yes. >> was there settism? were people thinking this is just another form of white gentrification? >> there is a running joke, if i share that, that the drug dealers were thinking that the whites moving are cops. and

>> they said that the streets are as hard as they seem. >> this is the intersection that changed my life tremendously. i hot shot a man almost took his life. >> he spent three and a half years in prison for that shooting. when he finally did get out. bennet said it was that same new song church community that helped him change his life around. >> this is my mom right here. they really embraced me and helped me to realize that i'm part and parcel of this community. >> new song was the only place where he could get a job. bennet has been working there for 20 years now along side people like lof 2 us would has helped the community warm to the idea of relocaters. >> it was when they stayed and stayed for a long time, became neighbors, bought homes here. >> some critics might say that this is a white savior complex. you're a white guy. you come into a majority-black community. what is it in that you want

people to understand that you're doing here. >> i've come in to be a partner and i think primarily to serve and empower and be led by the people here in this community. >> and while the new song community admits there is a lot left to fix on these streets-- >> hope is not extinct. >> well, pastor wilson said he's urging his community to stay calm through the storm. he and ben were out in the streets driving around last night making sure that everyone was safe and trying to encourage the rioters to go home. he said only black men mainly pastors went into those streets to guard businesses. he said he wanted to help, but he was encouraged to stay outside because he's quite and could be more vulnerable and tract the wrong type of attention.

>> they have moved in, and clearly it was a process to do this. now what do they do now? >> he said he would go home, check on his wife and kids and make sure that everything is okay. but the pastor said that we cannot allow anger to be the source of our motivation. spoken like a true man of the cloth. antoine said that he understand the use of violence, because he had shot a man, but now he's trying to work through this through dialogue and get the city clean. >> a lot of people are wondering why the rioting got out of control and they didn't do more to stop it. "america tonight" adam mays sat down with him. >> ed was police commissioner for a couple of years in the early 2000s. he ended his law enforcement

career in scandal after he was convicted of misusing federal funds. he spent time in a federal prison. despite all that have he's a beloved figure here in the baltimore community. he said if he was police commissioner those riots would not have gotten out of control. he said that the protesters are misguided. police brutality is not that big of a problem. he said the root of the problem in his opinion is the war on drugs. >> what really happened last night? how would you describe as you saw as a former police commissioner. >> i thought it was simple. >> they lost control of the city last night. >> is it unfair to blame police policies for the rioting? >> i think so. the police and may be the only visible arm of the government

that many see in communities of america. especially in baltimore in boor communities. you have drug problems, you have a heroin problem that never went away. you have problems where kids get a felony and they're never able to work for the rest of their lives. every time anybody dice in police custody, it's rare. as gruesome this tragedy can be, this is a rarity. we saw people at the funeral at freddie gray. i buried seven police officers as a chief. four of them were black. there were no protests. nobody came to those funerals. >> ed norris has interesting opinions as to what he believes may have happened to freddie gray. he walks through those with us. and he says no matter what the findings of the investigations, he believes if there are not six

indicts, the residents of this city could be in danger. >> you can see more of adam's interview coming up at 10:00 eastern. we'll be right back.

>> calls for nuclear disarm from people who know all too well the horse of the atom bomb. >> we're nearing the 70th anniversary of the bombing of hiroshima and many are now in their mid to late 80s but have vivid memories of the bombings many credit those for ending the world war ii. those were ordered by president truman. we'll hear from president truman's grandson. >> we look forward to it. that's our broadcast for this hour. i'm john seigenthaler, and the news continues next with

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