>> hi everyone, this is al jazeera america. i'm john seigenthaler. texas attack, the white house calls it terror. the new attorney general heads to baltimore. the wire star sonya son talks about what comes next. and we challenge the hugely popular blogger whether she's playing fast and loose with the science. and building the big apple's

newest subway line. the extraordinary images from beneath new york. >> there is no proof that isil orchestrated sunday's shooting in texas. but a group quick to feed on fear and violence was quick to would claim responsibility. we'll have more on isil's boast in a moment, but new details in the lives of the suspects. heidi zhou castro is in garland texas, tonight heidi? >> both the families and others have denounced this attack and expressed dismay that it happened. >> we live in garland and it's just so ironic that this is

where he would end up dying the mother of the suspected shooter said that the 34-year-old was raised muslim by his pakistani father but she never saw signs of trouble. >> he was a practicing muslim, but not in the extreme sense. he prayed five times a day. he wore a beard. >> sharon, a nurse in houston said that nader owned a carpet cleaning business in phoenix and was devoted to his son. she believed that his roommate led the attack in texas. >> to be convinced to do something like this is beyond beyond--it's just beyond me. >> the police say on sunday soofi and simpson wearing armored invest and carrying assault rifles open fired on police guarding an event

showcasing artwork including pictures of the prophet mohammed. >> i'm thankful that he did not kill anybody. i don't blame the policemen that shot and killed him. he was just doing his job. >> elton simpson's family in arizona also condemned the attack villa statements through their attorney. it says: >> but as the fbi searched the suspects' phoenix apartment monday simpson's former attorney said that she had seen another side to her client. >> he thought that islam was a way of life and should an way of life for most people. >> according to court documents simpson was convicted of lying to the fbi five years ago about making plans to join a terror group in africa. and just before sunday's attack in texas he tweeted may allah

accept us as media gentleman had as my gentleman had a mujahideen . >> the father of eldon simpson said that his son made a bad choice. he was raised christian and converted so islam in college. >> isil is not only claiming that it's followers was behind the attack but promised more. >> isil appears to be trying to convince americans that nowhere is safe. that isil inspired and direct and can direct an attack any

time anywhere: >> the claim of responsibility came on isil's official radio station in which an announceer recollecting in arabic said two soldiers of i.s. carried out an attack at at a drawings gallery in american city that was offensive. we tell american crusaders that what is next will be nor bitter. you'll see from the soldiers of islam what you deserve. the u.s. is viewing the claim with some skepticism given isil's penchant for exaggeration of its reach. >> to determine any ties or affiliation of these two individuals may have had with isil or other terrorist organizations around the world. it's too early to say at this point. >> but the attack whether directed behavior isil or merely inspired by the group's ideology

does represent what homeland security secretary jay johnson has described since he first took office as his biggest worry. >> we face threats from those who self radicalize to violence the so-called lone wolf who did not train at an al-qaeda camp or overseas or became part of an enemy voice but inspired by violent, a radical ideology to do harm to others. >> johnson cites the boston marathon bombing as hard to detect and hard to prevent type of attacks. american actors living in american communities with he easy-to-access bomb materials.

the other u.s. response is to continue attack isil on its home turf. in the latest round of airstrikes in iraq, u.s. and coalition aircraft claim to have taken out more than a dozen fighting positions including tanks, heavy weapons and armored vehicles. the texas attack shows that even when law enforcement officials have someone on their radar as a potential threat there often isn't enough evidence to make an arrest or prevent a violent act. it's one reason the fbi relies so much on undercover sting operations to get suspected radicals to reveal their true intentions. >> former deputy under secretary for intelligence for analysis operations at the department of homeland security. he's in philadelphia tonight. jack welcome. the fbi was investigating one of the gunmen. so was this a failure on the part of the fbi?

>> john, i don't believe it was a failure. these individuals were somewhat below the radar screen. mr. simpson was certainly known by the fbi. questioned by the fbi several years ago and convicted for lying to the fbi about going to somalia. but in the last five years he was probably leading a fairly quiet life. there were some postings on his social media site, but it's very very difficult even if you know an individual might have an intention to commit an act of terrorism, it's very difficult to keep tabs on a person 24/7. there are just too many individuals out there and there are not enough resources. >> how many people can the fbi track and track well? >> that's right. i mean, there are hundreds and in some cases thousands of people that have come up as a person of interest because they perhaps posted something on a website, or they've attended a rally or they've written something or said something and that number is rather large.

you simply can't have a federal agent watching every individual every day of the year for years and years. it's just not practical. >> we've seen violence like this before but what does this particular crime tell us about some of these people that maybe involved with isil? >> well, again we don't know if these individuals were, in fact soldiers of the islamic state or not. isil is claiming that they were there operators. i think in many cases that's to be questioned. then the next step that will happen now is really the forensic evidence where the fbi will exploit the computers and the computer records the e-mails and examine both what mr. simpson and mr. soofi were up to. if they're able to determine their there were communications between isil and them out of country, that's a different story.

we don't know that yet and we're waiting for the results of the forensic examination. >> the question that americans would have is how can they protect themselves from acts like this, from people who want to commit violence on soft targets. what can be done to stop people like this? >> well, it's a very difficult--it's a very difficult conundrum. again, we're a society that values our freedom, freedom of association, freedom of speech. when you have opportunities that look at those opportunities to target our society there isn't much you can do. all we can do is continue to be vigilant. i think in this case as secretary johnson the secretary of homeland security said, there was a good situation between state, federal and local authorities regarding this particular event and this particular event would be one that would attract violence, and it did because of the nature of this event, a cartoon exhibition of different images of the

prophet muhammad. i think when you have the intelligence community and law enforcement community talking with each other and bringing extra security at events like this this is as far as you can do to protect the populous. it's difficult to protect from threats like this where people pop up on the radar screen and deciding to operational. j. >> jack, it's good to see you. thanks for being on the program tonight. the war on isil, the war on afghanistan, two big tasks facing the president's officer. donethe white house said those joint chiefs experiences were

important in his decision. mike huckabee made an appeal to his evangelical base. >> we've lost our way morally. we witness the slaughter of over 55 million babies in the name of choice and we're now threatening the foundation of religious liberty by criminalizing christianity and demanding that we abandon applicable principles of natural marijuana. >> huckabee ran for president in 2008 and struggled to gain support beyond the south and the midwest. eventually he ran out of money. the city of los angeles is suing wells fargo saying the bank put profits ahead of consumers, wells far goes would open extra bank accounts without customers consent and exposed un unsuspecting clients to fees and put them at risk.

>> i had more than ten accounts at wells fargo. i only need one. >> los angeles business own is one of many people duped by the fourth biggest bank in the u.s. >> wells customers have been victimized by tactics designed to maintain high levels of sales of wells far goes. >> to hit those goals l.a. city attorney said that employees at wells fargo opened bogus accounts and ran up fraudulent charges. >> wells fargo business model rely on sales quotas. >> the suit claims the new accounts helped to increase profits but damaged the credit of one suspecting customers. >> i think about my parents when they first came to this country they couldn't speak english. maybe they knew two words. if you said how old you were, they would say hi. i see my parents when going to wells fargo they don't understand what bangers are telling them.

>> he complained to wells fargo but they kept opening up accounts in his name and sending him credit cards he didn't want. >> they always said this was the end of it, but it wasn't. i believed them. i want to trust them, but now i know i can't trust them. >> wells fargo said an intent to vigorously defend itself against the lawsuit and released this statement: >> morgan radford al jazeera. >> an attorney and legal analyst, and she joins me tonight from los angeles. welcome, what startles you about this lawsuit? >> well, i think not only are we hearing from small business owners like the one that joined

the city attorney at the press conference, but apparently there are a large number of employees some current and former employees who have come forward saying they have been retaliated against or fired because they reported the conduct on behalf of managers to push these products or they've been involved with having to pressure clients into opening these additional accounts, and it looks like they're going to cooperate with the city attorney in this lawsuit against wells fargo. >> is there a significance to this beyond this lawsuit in your opinion? >> well, the city attorney made this statement. he said if this lawsuit sacrificersurvives survives, he suspects that it will involved customers outside of the l.a. area because the practice of pushing customers to open additional accounts is wide

spread. and the bank said it took certain action to employees who practiced this, but they called that a token gesture and the bank has not done enough to end this practice, which he called illegal. >> let's talk about wells fargo reputation and also from a legal standpoint how badly could this hurt wells fargo. >> well, this could be substantial. not only are there bank employees former and current as well as business owners account hotellers and then the paper trail. what we're being told is that the bank opened additional accounts that sometimes fraudulent signatures were maids by bank employees and money were drawn from customer accounts. i suspect that the city attorney is going to be going through a massive serge trying to support the allegations. this could have far-reaching consequences from the bank. the city attorney has opened a

hotline. he has told anyone in los angeles who has a bank account with wells fargo to not only check their account but to call offices to see if they have been impacted by these practices. >> thank you. >> thanks, john. >> she may have helped change the color of your child's mack and change. the so-called food babe opened up about her controversial methods. plus underneath manhattan. photos of an engineering marvel.

>> the restaurant chain panera bread company said it's making healthier changes to its menu getting rid of 150 artificial ingredient sweeteners, flavor enhancers. it has 1900 restaurant in the u.s. and canada. in support of those changes is a highly profiled blogger known as the food babe. not everyone is happy about what she does or how she goes about it erica is here with more. >> the food babe is not just popular, but "time" magazine named her as one of the most 30 influential people on the internet along side beyonce and barack obama. but her critics call her an alarmist for the way she warns the public what is in the food

they eat. >> oils, gmos. >> unrelenting. >> all of these ingredients are not food. >> unapologetic. >> i love yoga, but it really does make me really hungry. >> this is--yum. >> this is the good babe. a blogger turned activist. she's on a mission to change the food we eat. >> children's most important meal of the day. >> to wage war against big food corporations has critics calling her a food terrorist. >> are you fair? >> my methods are effective. >> and people are listening. >> in four years her blog has blown up with 5 million readers a month and 1 million likes on facebook. she has dubbed her followers the food babe army. >> how did food babe start.

>> i grew up on processed foods. i was very sick as a child. when i started to make changes based on the information i started learning. i went from someone that was on 8 precipitation drugs to zero. my eczema went away. my asthma went away. my allergies went away. i became this new being of health. >> since 2011 her blog has been commanding attention. >> process to death go get these cooking oils out of your pantry. >> are you intentionally using inflammatory language? >> i am making sure that when i write a headline, that it gets people's attention. because i think it's very important for this information to get out. >> even if that's not entirely true? >> those headlines are true. >> people have been writing about these subjects that i've been writing about a lot longer

than i have. but they haven't been able to galvanize this movement in this way. >> remove this dangerous chemical from the bread. >> it was her campaign against subway's use of a chemical in its bread also used to make quoga mats that put the food babe on the map. >> because they use the term "eat fresh," i felt that was very misleading to the american public. >> but is it just as misleading in a way to say to the public, okay this chemical that is in your subway bread is essentially also in yoga mats so you're essentially eating yoga mats. >> making that correlation woke people up. >> even if you're conflating the science? >> i'm truthful that this ingredient is used to make yoga mats and shoe rubber. >> they garnered signatures and

subway said it would remove the use of the chemical in its bread even though it's been approved by fda. her push to stop kraft to stop using yellow dye in its mac and cheese. >> kraft said this was already in the works removing the artificial die from the mac and cheese. >> then why did they tell me when i met with them in their headquarters two years ago that we had to agree to disagree, that they were not changing anything. that their consumers love kraft mac and cheese just wait it is. >> we deserve the safe ingredients that other countries get. >> her goal, to challenge ingredients in the food. >> if they don't recognize what that ingredient is on the back of the package do not eat it.

>> hari's critics say she does not have the knowledge to teach about food. >> she's not very sophisticated i think that's what sets scientists off. she puts scientists on one side and herself on the other side. and we're really all in this together. >> under their criticisms that would mean that no journalist working in this world without a scientific degree would be able to report on science. that is unacceptable. >> except we're not hearing from experts on your blog. we're hearing from you. >> you're hearing me backed by data. >> i'm talking about what i want to put in my body and why. i make it very clear. >> you're not just a consumer. you're not. not any more. why not enlist a group of experts that are on your blog with full transparency show the

public and any of your critics hey, i'm taking a stance and this is why. >> every time i do a campaign i reach out to the scientists that work at these consumer advocacy groups. i have considered and will probably put in place actual an advisory board. >> when do you think you'll do that. >> it's in the works right now. >> through all the criticism she perseveres determined to make a difference. >> what do you want people to know. >> who you are at the core. when i look back at the struggle that i had with my health for so many years i know the reason i was put through that pain was so that i could be in this position to really help people realize that there is another way to help. >> this controversial swirling around the food babe has every day people criticizing her. she has banned so many of them from her facebook and twitter pages they've created their own

following against her of nearly 15,000 people. >> she has gotten a lot of attention and she's making money off this, right? >> look, she has several sponsors advertising or her website plus any of her blog readsers can sign up and pay for monthly updates. she recently wrote a book that made "the new york times" best sellers list. but how much money made being the food babe is hard to tell, but she insists she doesn't do it for the money. >> erica, thank you very much. esquire magazine food writer has josh ozerski has died. he was found in a hotel room. there is no word on his death. he broke through as a prominent food critic two years ago. he wrote about the history of the hamburger and founding meet township opia. a roving food festival featuring top chefs. the new attorney general

goes to baltimore we talk to sonya sun star of the wire. and tourist mecca miami beach is running out of sand. why neighbors who have lots of it don't want to share it.

>> hi everyone, in is al jazeera america. i'm john seigenthaler. healing and hope, the new attorney general goes to baltimore. plus sonya sun talks to us about the way forward. shifting sands why miami beach is running out of its most precious commodity. and new york's underground subway line. plus jazz great john talks about singing swinging, and his new project backing a rock-n-roll legend. a trip to racially charged

baltimore is one of the first major moves by newly appointed attorney general loretta lynch. she met with police officers and family members of freddie gray, the young black man whose death in police custody sparked this city's riots. more from lisa stark. >> john, the nation's chief law enforcement officer wasted no time. loretta lynch headed up to baltimore to promise the residents there that the department of justice will be there to hold their hands. attorney general loretta lynch was in baltimore to underscore both the federal government's oversight and it's support. she told police officers they picked a noble but difficult profession. >> you really have become the face of law enforcement. you may say that's for good and for ill i know, but we don't always choose moments. >> lynch also spoke with clergy and community leaders, a meeting that began with a prayer and

included a promise. >> so just to give you an update as i mentioned we do have a civil rights investigation. >> and the attorney general had a private talk with the family of freddie gray, whose death after an arrest sparked rioting in baltimore. her visit comes one day after tense moments in the neighborhood where gray was arrested after mistaken reports that the police had shot an african-american man. the police push back the angry crowd. the situation finally calming down when it turned out no one had been shot. but the incident under scores how fragile the peace despite the swift move to charge six officers in gray's death, a move that came with unprecedented speed. >> i think a lot of people feel that it takes so long to get any kind of justice. >> you know, we say justice delayed is justice denied, but

justice rushed can be just as bad. it's very difficult to convict police. therefore prosecutors try very, very hard to make sure that the case is very very solid. >> but for communities and families on edge the long waits can be painful. it took months for grand juries to act in the deaths of michael brown in missouri and eric garner in new york. in both cases declining to press charges. and in cleveland the family of 12-year-old tamir rice shot five months ago by an officer is still waiting. >> justice for our son. >> no one has been charged. no one has been held accountable. >> thorough investigations take time. >> what can a jurisdiction do to still keep the public informed? >> so releasing the facts as they come out once they're clearly established earlier but holding off on making the

decision until everything can be more raley analyzed might be a way to split the difference between the two. >> in baltimore now the question is will the charges stick? and whether they do or don't can this case help a city finally move forward. >> the justice department is also investigating the gray shooting for possible civil rights violations. and maryland representative elijah cummings said that the attorney general has not ruled out a full-scale investigation into the policies and practices of the baltimore police. lisa stark al jazeera, washington. >> sonya sun is actress known for her role on "the wire" and funded rewired helping formerly incarcerated youth in baltimore. sonya, it's great to have you on

the program. can you tell me what it was like to watch the scenes in baltimore as they unfolded? >> well, you know, i had mixed feelings. of course i don't want to see violence. i don't want to see people hurt. i don't want to communities hurt. but i understand what the root cause of all that anger was. when a friend called me and told me to turn on the tv to look at what was going on, i took a look at the screen, and he said, live you got to say something. i said to him i said, you know, what is there to say? i mean really? i don't know if i can actually speak on this in a way that might be constructive because i understand the enemy's anger. you know right now we're latchinglashing out at the cops unjustly. this is a multi laird issue and i would like to see the

conversation go--i would like to see the conversation become less broad and much more specific and aim towards getting to the root of all of that violence and the police brutality piece is one. >> i was just going to say you found a way to speak in "the new york times" in an op-ed. you talked about hopelessness and hope. you said it took five years of working in those communities for me to learn what i had sensed to be true, what working on "the wire" should have taught me, that there was a hopelessness on the streets of baltimore that ran so deep that it seemed to kill the spirit of the people. then you write about hope. you say i'm hopeful because i've seen what the people of baltimore can do in small flashes of fighting against apathy. how can people in baltimore really have hope? >> well, you know, the beautiful

thing about what has happened as a result of--as a result of the state's attorney at least making a step towards justice is that we've gotten an opportunity to see the best of baltimore and note that i said seem to have killed the spirit of the people. after working there for five years, and working with people on the ground on community projects as well as in advocacy and so forth and working--getting to know the people who lived in those communities, i could see that everyone was striving for something better, although they are being blocked at every turn. i believe that the city and state leadership as well as federal to a great degree, you can't take one piece without--you can't pull one piece from the pie but you

know i think they're all responsible for turning their backs on the poor to some degree particularly the leaders in that city who cater to big business who didn't really have a real vested interest in improving those neighborhoods. those row houses are not empty for no reason. >> based on what--we have gentrification sweeping across that city. the people of baltimore have been complaining and wanting support for a long time. i think they may possibly get it. >> when you say--what does it mean though? >> holding people accountable. >> if you could wave a magic wand and do one thing to change baltimore, what would it be? >> wow i wish there was one thing. i wish it took one thing. i believe it will take the people becoming extraordinary keen and knowledgeable about the people who run the city, and

about city and about public institutions and i think they're going to have to roll up their sleeves and start advocating for themselves not simply beautifying their communities and what not but pushing to get their needs met through policy change and legislation and working with people who are already doing that. the city needs to come together on a much deeper level. this is a nice start but the city needs to come together on a much deeper level to hold their politicians accountable. this is the kind of thing that i've seen over and over again. great spirit, great show from the officials there and then it's not backed long term by real support of the people. >> "the wire" was a drama on tv, but in some ways a reality tv show based on what we've seen in the past few days. can you compare contrast, what you saw on tv during last few weeks, and to your tv show?

>> well, let me just say if you have seen the television show you have seen one face of baltimore. i believe it's a true face. i think that i hope that as a result of what folks have seen this week that they'll go back and watch the show, and they'll watch the political scene in the show not just what was going on on the drug corners and whatnot but watch what the characters who play cops were illustrating there. i believe that's one face of baltimore. but one of my frustrations of being on the show is that, you know, it's a show. it has a story to tell, and david did it very very well. i just--i can't say enough about that. but you know, one show can't tell all stories right? and i thought that the people of baltimore did a good job of showing like another face of baltimore that wasn't always able to shine through in "the wire." i believe that spirit and that

face of the baltimore people, but you know, again they're fighting an uphill battle against a city officials and state officials who have--who have been at times more of a roadblock than a gateway for them. this is what i'm going to be watching. i hope they're going to be watching as well. >> congratulation on your non-profit helping incarcerated youth in baltimore and doing more than just a tv show, but actually getting involved in that community. it's a pleasure to meet you sonja sohn. thank you for being on the program. >> thank you for having me. >> now to south florida where a battle is breaking out over sand sand. coastal erosion is making it a scarce resource. that's a problem in the part of the country where beaches are big business. >> yes, it sounds hard to believe. it surgeons out the ocean is not full of sand, not the kind that

florida is famed beaches. florida is running out of sand and it's pitting neighbor against neighbor. >> rain or shine robert craft runs eight miles up and down miami beach every day. >> i'll get out there and get it going. >> something he has done for the past 40 years. >> so how do the beaches compare now to what you've seen in the past. >> well, it's bigger but the sand is not as nice. >> it's been decades since he has seen this beach in trouble. >> i heard miami beach is running out of sand. >> true. miami beach has run out of sand. it sounds unusual. >> just like those beach bodies miami beaches themselves need constant work. the solution was to pump in sand from the bottom of the ocean. but two years ago the county simply ran out. >> there is no viable sources offshore. so we ran out of sand down here in south florida.

>> beaches aren't static. the sand comes and goes with currents, rising oceans and storms. miami-dade county alone needs 18 million cubic yards of it for the next 50 years enough to fill the miami dolphin stadium seven times. so now count leaders are turning to their neighbors in the north. where the waters off st. lucie and martin counties engineers say there is plenty of sand. >> how much sand is there? >> there is an abundance of sand off the shore lines. >> but these beaches might as well be lined with gold because when it comes to sharing some politicians are not so willing to wade in. >> so this idea of taking sand here and shipping it to miami? >> i'm not a fan. >> you're not a fan? >> no. >> i've been known to tell them take your sand buckets and go home. >> a lot of people will say that

founds selfish. >> well, it isn't when you look at what i have to protect and what i'm fighting for. >> she and others are worried that a major storm would wipe away their beaches. >> you have your own issues. >> absolutely. >> and leaders are not convinced that st. lucie has enough sand to go around. >> we'll help where we can but we have to help protect our own. >> crews can't just any sand. it must be the right color size and texture making it a precious commodity. especially in miami where beaches attract 14 million people every year generating $22 billion. >> just getting the sand from the northern counties make most sense to you? when you need sand you have to get it from somewhere. we are looking at all areas. >> so it's got to be frustrating for you. you guys need sand. you're running into resistence from your northern neighbors. >> we understand their concerns and their issues. we're trying to work with them

to allay those fierce. >> miami-dade county is considering other ideas including shipping in sand from other countries like the bahamas. >> one county was so desperate for sand thought to use recycled glass on its beaches but decided that was too expensive. >> there are options that could please everyone. as officials look to the future, some some like robert craft can't but help remember the past when in the 1970s miami beach looked nothing like today. >> i used to have to run through the pool deck. there would be no beach at all. >> you remember when there was no beach on miami beach. >> pretty much, or very little beach. >> few expect that to happen again. either way craft will keep running. his routine has not changed even

if his speech has. >> so now the federal government is studying options that may satisfy counts. half of florida's beaches are eroding. >> i remember a time when miami didn't have much beach. >> that surprised me, back in the early '70s. >> but a big storm comes in and it wipes it away. >> that's a huge concern partly why the northern countries are worried about sharing their sand because a storm could come and cause an incredible amount of damage and eat up their sand reserves. >> coming up next on this broadcast, under our feet, amazing photos of the excavation for new york's new subway line. plus my conversation with jazz guitarist join pizzarelli and his all-star collaborations. coming up.

>> abramicthis video obtained by the associated press showed rescue effort quickly turning to panic. the migrants from libya piled on top of each other to get on to a cargo ship as their flimsy boat deflate. five people were crushed to death. as many as nine drowned. 100 made it to safety in the cargo ship. more than 20-year break in u.s. diplomatic tie requests somalia is over. john kerry made the announcement during a surprise visit to the east african nation today. he is the first u.s. secretary of state to set foot in somalia a show of solidarity with the nation's new government. and praised efforts to push al-shabab out of major cities. fighting the group is a priority for both countries. the war against al-shabab is one, according to one head of

state. >> they say those organizations have been weakened. i had a chance to sit down with president musevini today. he's in new york. we spoke about issues facing his country. he believes that the way they're conducting attacks shows that they're on the decline. >> they cannot attack army barracks. they cannot attack a police station. they cannot attack a military convoy. therefore they end up attacking these soft targets. >> the long-time ruler of uganda spoke about his optimism about the economic future of his region of africa. we have part one of the

interview coming up tonight. >> we look forward to it. thank you. and tonight we take you under new york city where engineers are building a new subway line. one of the largest public works projects in history. mta photographer captured its creation with extraordinary images and shares them with us in our first-person report tonight. ♪ >> my name is patrick cashin. i'm the photographer for the metropolitan transportation in new york. one of my favorite photograph is of the mother falcon over head while. they want me to photograph these new projects to document what's going on for me it's very

interesting. i was there when there were little holes in the ground. so the holes kept getting bigger and there is more machinery being put down there and there is more activity, and now you can walk from 63rd all the way up to 96th in these tunnels, and you run into three or four new train stations along the way. when you see these photographs you'll see why all the noise and the disturbances is actually showing some sort of progress. there is something going on underground. so i'm hoping that they see that and understand a little bit better that there is a reason and there is a purpose for all the inconvenience and somewhere down the road it will be a big advantage for the city of new york. it's incredibly interesting and to have seen it from when it was just a small hole in the ground mud and dirt and to see how far

they've gone is just amazing. it's hard to believe that these guys just manage to accomplish all this. >> after it's completion the new line will stretch more than 8,008 miles and serve--let's try this again. after it's completion the new line will stretch more than eight miles and serve 200,000 commuters every day. all right from mass transit to master musician. john pizzarelli one of the renown guitarists working today. so well with regarded that none other than paul mccartney asked him to record his music. we talk about that and what first sparked his love of music. >> i would imagine it was the beatles in the 1960s. i had two older sisters, and they had all that beatle music in the house. i think watching them play was a

big deal. i always heard my father playing the guitar. >> your father was a famous musician when you were very young. >> yes, it was right after the beatles when i was six seven or eight, my mother, i'll never forget it. she put clothes in my hand and said go down and tell your father that you're going with him today. we would go from studio to studio and i would watch him play commercials or whatever. >> you started playing guitar at six? >> that was the instrument that my father's uncles caught me. [ guitar music ] >> what was it like to grow up in a household where everybody is playing some instrument and singing? >> the key was that it made it always enjoyable. music is something that has never been a job because we did it all the time. that was their entertainment from when they were kids in the '40s '30s, and '20s. here in the '60s, and hearing

them play "bye-bye blues," and it looked fun and i wanted to get in on that. >> you were exposed to musicians like benny goodman. >> and also just following my father around. so he was playing with benny goodman. >> you were there. >> actually in the early '80s, benny asked my father and i to open show for benny goodman. there were 16 shows and all these things started to happen that was exciting. i was in places with all these big jazz names and i was expected to perform. [ jazz music ] >> your father is 89. >> yes. >> and he's still playing. i see a picture of him playing. >> there he is. >> you play together still? >> still. if i can nail him down he'll play concerts with me.

i think we're going to be in champaign, illinois, sometime in september. >> that's a very special thing. >> you know, that his love for the guitar, and how he wanted to--you know, not just be a soloist, but to be part of a group was an important thing for him. it was never like you need to play a solo on this, you need to do that. but can you play good rhythm guitar and back up a singer? and all of these other parts of the guitar became morning because that's how he liked. he liked to see the full guitar. >> you mentioned the beatles and i understand that paul mccartney has asked you to cover a couple of songs. how does that happen? he just calls you? hey john? >> he sent me a letter. when fedex arrives i saw mpl communications. that's from paul mccartney. he said sign here. i went back and read this letter. it was a letter saying i enjoyed your work where i played rhythm

guitar. he said i wonder if you will be interested in recording some of my post beatle catalog and we could call it good night mccartney. maybe you would be interested in doing this. that was the letter. i think maybe i'm interested in doing this. >> this is going to come out this summer? >> july 28th. >> you opened for sinatra in 9/35? '93? >> yes i think he and mccartney are both some of the most recognizable musical faces. i opened for sinatra in germany, i shook his hand and he saidhe said, eat something you look bad. i would open for 20, 25 minutes. and i would look in the wings and there was sinatra and as

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