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diplomates they seek to score points one session at a time kimberly with al jazeera, washington. sports politics current affairs, you can find all of that by logging on to our website, our correspondent updated throughout the day. al jazeera.com. for the moment hillary clinton stands head and shoulders above a tiny democratic field in name recognition and campaign funding. when she supports same-sex marriage, going after corporate tax cheats, giving illegal immigrants a path to citizenship, is she demonstrating a shift in her own thinking or outflanking colleges in the race to the white house.
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leaning to the left is tonight's inside story. welcome to "inside story", i'm luis suarez. -- i'm ray suarez. recently we looked at the republican field and candidates running hard on the right. tonight we turn to democratic front runner hillary clinton, who hinted her 2016 campaign will be different from the cautious run she made in 2008. call it cynical, sincere, the candidate perceived opportunity on the progressive side of a number of issues. what is candidate client telling us about her positions, but how she perceives the primary and general election pool.
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juventus takes a closer look. >> in aye this week, hillary clinton offered pop u limp. >> most understand that the deck is stacked, and i'm running a campaign stating that we want to reshuffle the deck. >> the former senator and secretary of state reshuffled her own previous policy positions, moving to the left on gay marriage, criminal justice, and a pathway to citizenship for undocumented immigrants. >> we can't wait any longer for a path to full and equal citizenship. >> while clinton's friends say positions over time evolved, some high profile progressives may have an influence. elizabeth warren will not seek the 2016 democratic revelation, has not told the elizabeth run movement to stop.
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warren has been talking about income and equality and economic justice for years. >> we believe that no one should work full time and still live in poverty, and that means raising the minimum wage, and we are willing to fight for it. >> former maryland governor martin o'malley raised his wage on top of passing other progressive policies and bills. o'mallee planned to launch the policy in weeks, and has been centralist. >> triangulation is not a strategy to move america forward. history celebrates courtroom. >> vermont senator, a self-described socialist declared he is running running, and one of his issues is campaign finance. we have a political situation, where billionaires are able to
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buy elections and candidates. let's not kid ourselves. >> queue hillary clinton. we need to fix our dysfunctional system and get upaccountable money out of it once and for all. even bill de blasio the progressive mayor of new york could have an impact on clinton. >> vision. >> you are not endorsing here. i would say this about any candidate. against all of this president obama outflanked her to the left. it supported as a senator. officials say they have lingering fears, with centrist husbands. liberal activists, many skeptical about hillary clinton seem so have an outside
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primaries. >> regardless of whether hillary clinton is moving to the left because of policy positions have evolved, or because of political expediencery, democrats say it's a wise move, saying they believe it helps clinton ratchet up the democratic a. >> when i hear the former secretary of state saying the deck is stacked in favour of those at the top, is it different from what i would have heard her say in west virginia in 2008, in western pennsylvania, in northern ohio, in places where deindustrialization and lack of investment gave the white working class a tough run? >> it's not that different, except when you consider that hillary clinton back then was talking about opportunity for everyone, and
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specifically the opportunity for middle class. this time to say it's facted in favour of some groups, it's a negative message taking the page from elizabeth warren's play book. the language, some of the rhetoric is similar. so, yes, you can make the argument, and folks have, that it's not that different from 2008, but in the context of election warren, and others breathing down her neck, it fears that hillary clinton is fearful about being not progressive enough. >> here we have political professionals, spending millions of dollars of other people's money. bernie sandersers martin o'mallee, and as they look at the range of american politics, nobody is planning to run to hillary clinton's right. on the democratic side. are they seeing a similar electorate when they look ahead? >> it certainly would appear that way.
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they are all talking about the democratic activist being more progressive and having an outside influence, a greater influence, and they are looking back at 2008 as hillary clinton has been doing, and seeing that a strong progressive anti-war candidate was able to leverage that and excite the democratic base to the nomination, one of the things that hillary clinton has to if we careful on, and you'll see some distinction bs, they'll talk about the deck being stacked. they have not gone as far as saying that the wall street banks need to be broken up. and even though that may be a more complicated issue for voters, it's primary for the likes of elizabeth warren and bernie sanders, and that's where the distinction may come as far fides. >> are these style points, mott eaves, rather than policy
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positions about, sfrins, goings after bank executives from the melt down. >> style is a big part of it. sometimes the large fiery rhetoric can excite the activist in both parties, clinton is much more matter of fact did circumspect. she's not a firebreathing candidate, and those are the candidates that can electrify audiences in new hampshire. as far as the substance, you will not see significant substantial differences on the policy, but her style could be a problem, because, again, he is down to earth, matter of fact - that in and of itself raises skepticism from progressives, a lot who want folks to go for the jewingular when it comes to the economic elite and vich. >> david shuster in new york. thanks a lot. coming off a democratic party loss in 2014.
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we were going where the departments are. >> i think it's a little of both. i think one of the things you are seeing of hillary clinton in particular, is it's running this year without the president obama-type candidate at her heels. she has an opportunity here to pace herself in the way that she didn't in 2008. and she can talk about issues in a way that really let's her own voice come through, plan her flagon in multiple places as you discussed, and essentially test messages across the country, again at hear -- her own pace, but in line with other democrats, and quickly, when she was at columbia university, i
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was there, she was talking about mass incarceration, and that is something we haven't seen presidential candidates talk about a lot. this is an issue that is important in urban areas, and i was happy to here her talk it. >> when mrs. clinton was in las vegas, she got a lot of attention for outbidding president obama on a planned reform for immigration laws. and the pundit-ocracy went crazy, tearing their hair out. if you look at where americans poll, what she said is not that different to what people say they want to sowee, a path to citizenship. >> most americans want to see a pass to citizenship. there are support to people like lindsay graham, so that has bipartisan support.
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if you look at the economic messages, more than 90% of gapes, there's a lot of frustration about the number. that message, the economic message the immigration message that it makes sense in terms of where the country is. the experience that americans had gives mrs. clinton room to say the deck is stacked in favour of those at the top. i couldn't handling hearing her say that in 1996. >> i think the economic messages are extraordinarily important message, and if you want to tie it to the raw politics of presidential races, there's a lot of research and reports right now that you have a lot of white southern voters, white males in particular that are leaving, that are not voting for
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democrats that are starting to look at republicans, who are not voting at all, because departments are not paying tapes to the economic -- attention to the economic messages. they would like to see and heard, especially in the 2014 mid term elections, i think the message is right. she has the opportunity to bring folks, who are disenfranchised and dissatisfied with the party's messaging, and talking about something that is hurting republican. >> you are a political pro. people have said confidently, in full confidence that they are sounding wise, republican can run to the primaries and pivot to the center as if it's possibling in a 24 hour -- possible in that 24 hour noose
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cycle to beat -- news cycle to beat candidates. do democrats have a similar problem, can you run and have the same pivot problem. i don't think there's - i think democrats have a similar problem. you probably saw that a little in 2004. with, you know, you had one like john kerry, who was not polling high at all around primary time, and voters in iowa went to someone they thought was electable. they talked about a lot of the same issues we are talking about today. it's a republican problem, and a democratic problem, i don't think ooul see that in this cycle. you have a bernie sanders and martin o'mallee talking about
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the populist message to it. you hear mayor bill de blasio in new york talking about the same things. we may see hillary clinton aggregate all of that, and come out with a tightly hung message that i think does walk that line between going too far to the left, but being an attractive general election candidate. >> for 35 years i had republican elected officials, candidates and operatives tell me that this is a center right country, which helpless developments in when -- hems democrats in when they have to draft their messages. is that true, given the stats you quoted earlier, about where americans are on economic issues. and adding to the hopper, gay marriage, is it that same center right country they were confident in, in national presidential years? >> i'll guess we'll have to see, on the economic, immigration issue maybe the center oished.
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you look at i.s.i.s., or the exchanges in the middle east, across the board republicans, democrats or bernie sanders, who is to the left of the establishment on most issues supports the plans of bombing i.s.i.s., the strategic strikes, so on issues like that, i think there's a broad agreement that america needs a more hawkish policy, not something - the new york variety, and jed bush ran into a lot of trouble espousing an interventionist policy. that's where you see the center right creep up. >> in 2016 and 2020, demographers are saying the shave of the electorate is changing. there'll be thousands of knew young voters coming in, the echo boomers, ageing into the voting years, does that change democrat? >> well, i think so. certainly you have to have a
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strong position on immigration and reform and the path to citizenship. hillary clinton said that, you have to have a plan for criminal justice reform particularly the consequences of president clinton's policy, including cars ration rates. she checked that box. these are not accidents, i think, this is part of a rollout strategy, she understands the demographics of 2016 will be different than 2008, moving forward, and if a candidate wants to win, they'll have to change with what the electorate looks like. >> what does it tell you that there's nobody running to mrs. clinton's right. jim webb is flirting with the idea, but the action is to her left. well, i think it's - i think it says a couple of things, one, she is a very poised careful candidate. and she is running in this
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election, i think, still carrying a lot of ideas, there's a good chunk of the party, and this is no secret. there's a good chunk of the party that wants to see her go to the left. all of these - if you look at the occupy wall street as a movement, if you combine that with a lot of issues that we see come out of ferguson, baltimore, new york, you know, the country wants candidates to talk about the issues, and i think there is a place for all of those issues to get discussed by leaders in the democratic party, but i don't necessarily believe that is is to the explugs. a lot of those issues. but i think that she has different from 2008. she's being a lot less careful. she is dipping a little to the
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left, and trying to aggregate a lot of that anger and frustration, and certainly a lot of issues that have come up in the last few years. >> we'll have you both back. basil smichael, great to have you with us. candidates head to the stump to persuade, but they campaign with a theory about who is going to vote, and what issues will encourage people to come out. we'll look at the strategy of leaning left next on "inside story".
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we are in this together that is massachusetts senator elizabeth warren speaking last year in minnesota, regularly praised and scorned as the democratic party liberal standard bearer, some believe she has the political clout to pull hillary clinton to the left. we are looking at democrats moving to the white house. jason johnson joins us from atlanta. can elizabeth warren have a gravitational pull on hillary clinton, if she never runs. >> she already as. you know, just like jed bush pulled a mind trick to convince mitt romney not to run, that's what hillary did. she convinced her not to run under the promise that the issues talked about she'd bring to the table. influence is apparent. i don't think she'll run, but she's put her stamp on everything that senator clinton
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has been saying since she president. >> how is it different to what bernie sanders plans to do. what martin o'mallee is preparing to do, to run a campaign to the left of the former secretary of state. >> because bernie sanders presents no obstacle to hillary clinton. she can't raise the money or the profile, and doesn't have the charisma to do anything. martin o'malley doesn't have the money or charisma. when the biggest city is ruined by rioting, you don't have a chance. elizabeth warren is the only person that can have an impact on how hillary clinton runs. as long as she stays out of the race she has a clear path to the presidency. i understand the tendency to deride chance, but there's a
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point where some others will be standing on a stage. a stage not tilted to one side or the others. doesn't that give them a chance to let it fly in an equal toe to toe way, with someone who is a states. >> unfortunately, no, the main reason why is because we have seen this for 15-20 years, no one has begun to swing an election by how well they performed in a debate. not when you are at the primary stage. you may raise your own profile, you may go from 8% polling to 1% polling, but we have -- 12% poll of course, but we have never seen instances where the front runner is harmed. the likelihood that bernie sanders could do excellent is high. the likelihood it could hurt hillary clinton is not likely. what does it tell you that the
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notes, the themes are sounded before the season begins in ernst, when a couple of years ago the democrats were being thumped in the midterm elections? >> i think it's clear that hillary clinton has an unassailable brand. she doesn't have to do political marketing. she doesn't have to do advertising. she has a brand established over the last 20 years, it allows her a level of mall yabilityy on issues that few have. the democrats got bounced, shellacked as president obama put it during the midterm elections. they won in 2012, 2008, and hillary clinton represents the ability for national level democrats to push left and right whenever it's convenient and not lose the political integrity. does this mean that the suspicions held by hard core progressive democrats will be
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allied this time. they believe that hillary clinton is one of them. >> they shouldn't. there's a democratic issue and a campaign issue. the clintons are absolutely political kamilions, and it's questionable if there's anything they believe in. the progressors will have to hold their nose and vote for hillary clinton, because she's the only chance of keeping the white house looking to eliminate everything obama does. >> good to have you with us. we'll be back in a moment. election and labels have a bone to pick, bringing along criticism or blow kisses. visit facebook, follow the programme on twitter or follow
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me. it's hard to think of more debased coinage in american politics than the words we use for things. what is a leftist in 2015, and
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what would one believe. what is a moderate. and what political programs or platforms would you expect to hear one endorse. these days, depending on four own politics, it's common to throw terms like leftist around as a sinnon im for someone i don't agree with or someone i don't like, ditto fashionist, socialist. if i could write a description for political reporters, including for me, i remembered that we describe, track and test what candidates say they do rather than fall for labels they pay themselves. if we didn't fall for the labels, politicians and voters probably wouldn't use them quite so much, and they wouldn't be quite so meaningless. thank you for joining us for "inside story" see you next type of, i'm ray
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