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>> explosions going on... we're not quite sure - >> is that an i.e.d.? >> "faultlines". al jazeera america's award-winning investigative series. monday, 10:00 eastern. on al jazeera america. >> this is aljazeera america. i'm tony harris. scandals around world soccer. fifa officials accused of bilking millions in fees. and there's something missing in the tropical storm forecast. technology to better predict hurricane's storm surge.
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soccer 1 called a beautiful game but there was nothing pretty in a 47 count invite that accuses some of the most powerful men in the sport's governing bold, fever a. of what is being described as systemic and deep corruption. john tarrick has the story. >> reporter: this is huge, just not here in the united states. everywhere else around the world, soccer is like a religion so it's a big blow to the people who run the most popular sport had a we call it soccer and they call it football. corruption at at the highest level of sock. nine officials and five executives. these are serious corruption charges, including racketeering money laundering, wire fraud. >> they were expected to uphold
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the rules keep soccer honest. and uphold the game, and instead, they enriched themselves. this department of justice is determined to end these practicing and route out corruption and bring the wrongdoers to justice. >> in swits land, where fifa is based, the department of justice wants them extradited back to the united states. six of the seven said that they will night extradition and swiss prosecutors have opened up proceedings as well. they opened up the american soccer federation today. and the organization's former and current leaders part of study's indictment and the these are the result of three years of hard work by authorities into fever a. which began with the selection process for soccer's biggest event, the world cup which everybody loves. russia won the right to host the tournament in 2018.
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and the 202 world cup is slated to be held in cart. but there are always that's the selection process was rigged. it was not part of today's invite. but in a statement he said we welcome the actions by the authority. that fifa has already taken to route out any wrongdoing in football. and he goes on to say that misconduct has no place in football. but those in it who are corrupt will be out of the game. if you are wondering how it is that the u.s. attorney general is able to go after fifa when we're here and they're there the answer is that the doj has wide ranging powers of any criminal activity, concerning u.s. banks and charges and these are due to mainly tv deals of tv coverage, stretching all the way back to the 190s.
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>> fifa doesn't have much soar sight as i see it here, it'sured to getting it's own way. >> when it comes to fifa officials, it's typically their way or the highway. they make the rules and they go so far sometimes as to get lawmakers in countries around the world approaching an event to change the laws so they can put on tournaments. they did that in brazil to get the laws to change in the stadium. >> so step ladder. isn't it open for re-election? >> yes a very powerful man and his re-election was scheduled for friday. the reason the seven fifa officials were in zurich overnight, they were preparing for the vote on step larder on friday.
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and now that's in doubt because the european countries are saying that that vote should be cast >> so they're all in swits switzerland and they can round them all up. >> we should tell that you aljazeera 1 funded in parts by the government of qatar. jonathan betz was looking into the names today. >> a lot of power here. and the leadership is facing criminal charges. among the 14 are two fifa vice presidents including jeffrey webb one of the highest ranking officials charged. and he heads the governing body of soccer in north and central america: thought that this man would eventually become the president of fifa. and he launched a corruption probe into his predecessor, he has been accused before. and he left over an alleged
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bribery scandal and now he has been indicted bit u.s. as well. and he's part of the trinidad and tobago parliament. another vice president has been arrested involved in u.s. soccer leagues he's a former player and he's 83 years old now. one the americans indicted, he participates in traffic sports usa, and davidson is also an attorney and effectively the owner of the carolina rail pop soccer team. and finally this man right here, a key figure, charles blazer. the former u.s. representative to fifa. about he has pled guilty, and admitted to money laundering and tax evasion and he's cooperating with the authorities, and he could help with more. >> he might be the key figure in all of this. appreciate it.
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doug eldrige is a managing partner at the sports and consulting dsz in washington d.c. and doug, i know this is a big story and it has been drilled in my head all day that this is a huge story. but what i need you to do 1 put it into context from your perspective. >> you're talking about not only a massive story but a massive machine with literally 1,000 moving parts. it's almost appropriate that 24 happened in switzerland because the incident cassie of the moving parts could be like taking the back off of a swiss watch and seeing how the gears fit into precision. it's a 47 count invite. 14 individuals spanning 5 years of allegations and the first we have seen, the swiss hotel, at the fifa headquarters in switzerland and at the
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headquarters in miami. and the next stem which you ed you'll thetheextradition process. if it were tax fraud claims, they wouldn't extradite officials to the united states, but if any of these individuals contests the extradition right which some already have, the united states has a 40 day window to file the official appeal. >> that's good. and if you 1 i know this to be true, 23 you ask ten world cup fans if fifa is corrupt my guess 19.5 of them will say yes, and is there anything in the indict that's shocking to you? >> yes and no.
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in the court of public opinion everybody would say everybody knows fifa 1 corrupt. but what everybody knows versus what an individual can prove. when you tack about the shocking elements of the indict, i think that the scope and the breadth and the severe severity. we saw things ranging from demands of $1.5 million in cash to a picasso to potentially knighthood in the united kingdom. they were far-reaching. not just the proverbial cash in a duffel bag. but a few moments ago how this is going to cut off the head of a lizard and it will survive and grow a new one. the new question, if seth is the tail of the lizard, would
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the feet survive? and i believe from the legal and operational standpoint, the answer is confess, but i think that we'll see an unprecedented changing of the guard at the international level in the largest fort northwest world. the armstrong probe to the barry bonds probe, this is the largest sports law story in history. >> okay. and first of all you went reptilian on us, and that was well done. does the sports department, in addition to the other hat that you wear, doug, does the justice department have a case here? looking at the indictment, would you like to prosecute the case or defend it? >> that's a tough question, objectively speaking, the first
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way we would try to qualify n. which was underscored during attorney general loretta lynch's comments today the way they were able to reach out and garner these individuals. when you get them in a foreign country. there are two simultaneous charges here. one associated with the bank robbery in the international media rights and the other 1 the bidding process of the 2018 and 2022 games. and now in conjunction with their swiss counterpart one was the el rico act. >> stop for just a second because i was about to ask you,? organized crime, is this racket hearing? >> rico was formed as a means to go after the mafia. because it was easy for the
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organizers to get the although liars through. committing the crimes, but they couldn't go vertically up the big crime food chain and get the big bosses, but rico allowed them to do so. pull a thread all the way to the other side per verbably to get the mafia boss, right? 10 rico is, a series of anti-terror laws that the united states has used over the last 14 years or so. which is largely associated with financial records and/or tranc records, and what that ultimately means banking records, or even something as simple as using a u.s.-based internet provider, and that will provide contact for the united states to give position. so it's a juxtaposition of these two. rico from four years ago and
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something as remedial as an anti-platform. in either case, when the question is prosecutor or defendant, it's neither but i would say from a standing point of view, the department was flawless in their execution. remember, this was not a midnight raid. it's a long time coming, and it's in direct cooperation with their swiss counter parts. and it goes back to the swiss. >> this is very good, and i'm trying to sneak one more in here. we're talking about a number of schemes here, but added to most, simply and base, say we're on foxx or espn or whatever and i want the rights to broadcast a tournament. and am i asking how much
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officially to i need to pay? and they know under the table will it take for me to win this bid? >> well, i'm glad you worded it that way because the indict indicates that it was essentially a two-tiered number. first, from a procedural standpoint fifa essentially sells the rights to sports marketing firms who sells it to media out let's and sponsorship. the first number is the official market value of 24 endeavor, and the second 1 really what underscored half of this two-prong investigation and that's what doy identified as a pay to play network, you have to remember to your point almost 70% of fifa's $5 billion change revenue was acquired through licensing and sponsorship rights of these tournament. 10 we're already talking about nine figure media investments.
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>> i'm getting scolded but you were terrific. >> short answer, a lot of money broken into two pieces. >> he's the washington partner at the washington based sports and consulting. joining us from washington d.c. well done, doug, thank you. authorities infection in texas have issued hundreds of evacuation orders, and the river 1 expected to overflow its banks tonight. 19 people are now confirmed to have died in the storms in texas and in oak okay. today's survivors are trying to pickup the pieces, and we're joined from houston with the very latest. robert. >> tony, good evening. this bayou canal behind me is normally full of water though not as much as this, and flowing like this. just yesterday if you can see check this out tony, the top of the levee behind me where
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the green grass is, the water was flowing over there in the neighborhoods of the surrounding area and that's what caused so much flooding and damage for these folks as they're cleaning up today. and the unfortunate part, more rain is expected in america's fourth largest city. wednesday, residents worked to clean up the damage in a strain of deadly storms and floods that have houston as a stand still. >> is the water was so high that we were on my bed my whole family on one bed on kind of an island. >> contaminated floodwaters rose over two feet inside of their home. for college student david denim berg, childhood memories are a are all that he has now. >> this was our house and looking through house, it was engulfed in everything in the backyard. >> this is waste water from the bayou. >> it's nasty water with god
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knows what in it. >> this is the top of the levee at the bayou here in the houston suburb, and the water was all the way to the top flooding the neighborhoods on tuesday, and within that system, within that water 100,000 gallons of untreated waste water that spilled into this area. the officials say they are working on trying to figure out how exactly that happened. and they're going to clean it up when all of this subsided. but it's not a threat right now to the residents and there's no boil order in place. houston fire commander was out saving residents earlier this week and now his department is helping to clean up the mess and answer questions. >> what concerns a lot of the residents now the dirty water from the bayou that's contaminated with feces and what not and are you addressing that? >> as far as the city is concerned, our water is clean and safe. it went through multiple levels
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of testing and what not and it was monitored closely by the city officials and it's confirmed that everything is safe. >> for the denimbergs, they will be living with nearby family until the assurance kicks in, and they can go back into their home. >> it's just stuff. >> no one is hurt. >> it's just stuff. >> across the city, thousands of structures are affected. >> we have thousands of properties that we have visually inspected and we believe that there may be as many as 4,000 affected. >> a crisis averted. officials feared that the dam would breech. but this now say that the dam seems to be holding firm. tony, this is the wettest record on month for the state of texas. now, this part of the country is clearly used to tropical storms and hurricanes, if you remember four years back,
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hurricane ike dumped a ton of water here, but they're not used to this flash flood situation, and that's what many of the residents were caught off-guard with, and the officials here. we're told within this bayou here, behind me, there was a submerged vehicle that was just found. and the officials are trying to pull that vehicle out. and clearly if you go around the neighbors here, all you see 1 people's furniture bed spreads and their memories sitting out at the kush. >> pretty horrible, and there's still a pretty strong current there in the bayou behind you. 10 one of the hardest-hit towns in texas 1 wimberley. the buy storm destroyed nine homes, and three were killed and nine more are missing. 10 many residents lost their homes, and how 1 the recovery going today? >> hey tony, recovery is a very big word when your house
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looks likes this. that's what happened when a 46-foot high wall of water knocks into your homes. we see trees that were once 50 feet call, torn with the roots attached as 23 they were weeds, and cars flip where there was a foundation of a home. people are trickling in, and it's a tough task. heart-warming thing in this little town, more than 500 people have stepped up as volunteers to help. a local ace hardware store has set up a station where anyone can sign up. and we saw people of all ages showing up and offering their assistance and immediately being deployed to help with cleaning supplies, chainsaws and food, et cetera. and that has left some homeowners saying, they're in awe of their neighbor's generosity. >> i had no idea that the
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community would respond like this. i mean, they're everywhere, just working like little bees and helping and they're 10ing will. >> five and. >> and those folks say that they're the lucky ones. they have not lost their lives and their hearts go out to the three found dead and the nine others who are missing. it's so tragic. many of those missing belong to one family spanning three generation and the operation 1 indeed a rescue operation and as time ticks and the water levels fall, everyone 1 bracing to find more bodies. >> heidi zhou-castro in wimberley texas but in houston, we saw a bit of a break with robert ray and what houston and that entire state needs is a real break of a couple of days. >> we're not going to get it unfortunately.
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what i'm concerned about, we have a line of thunderstorms tomorrow night that's going to come through san marcos and wimberley. with more rain and sweater and tornadoes with that. we're going to be watching it very very carefully. the refine we're getting all of this moisture, the atmosphere is stuck in a pattern where it's bringing up all of this moisture from the gulf of mexico. we're seeing a lot of sweater from kansas to texas. oklahoma as well as texas has been dealing with quite a bit of flooding as well. and that's going to be a big problem as we go through the next couple of days. right knew, we're looking at tornado warnings and watches from kansas to the panhandle of texas, and that's going to remain in effect for the rest of the evening and we're watching it carefully. in terms of rain, it's going to be up here toward the north where we'll see very heavy rain. and for oklahoma city, 4 and
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have inches of rain is the average, and they have already received 20 inches of rain this month, and more to come. >> i appreciate it, thank you. and coming up next on the program, the epa's new rules for clean drinking water. and plus, a mistaken shipment of live samples of anthrax. what the pentagon is doing now to protect civilians.
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reliably fast internet starts at $69.95 a month. comcast business. built for business. >> the defense department 1 investigating reports of live anthrax being shipped to a medical facility. it was sent to nine states and even overseas, and jamie mcintyre has more on the investigation. >> tony, the pentagon 1 investigating having the u.s. military ship live anthrax
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spores from utah to maryland last friday. the lab was supposed to get dead or enactive spores for research in developing a test for anthrax but it reported last week that some of its samples were live. and that sparked a similar shipment to laboratories to military bases in korea. besides maryland, the states are texas wisconsin delaware, new jersey tennessee new york, california and virginia. the pentagon spokesman said that all of the samples have been retrieved and they are inspected to see if any obtain active spores. the cdc has determined that there's no threat to the public. and no suspected or confirmed cases of anthrax ipection. however, four civilians are being advised to make propo lactic measures as an out-of-an abundance of caution.
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it's a serious breech of pretty call for handling deadly anthrax flax spores. >> jamie mcintyre for us. lawmakers in nebraska super overridden the governor's veto in a bid to abolish the death penalty. today's override means that nebraska is the first conservative state in 40 years to abolish the death penalty. coming up next on the program. the major sportswear program rumored to be caught up in the fifa scandal and the millions of dollars paid. >> . >> plus, how new orleans is getting ready for hurricane season.
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switzerland. they were accused of racketeering and other charges. the police carried out raids at the govern body for the sock for the north and south america and the caribbean. >> the begin was hijacked. the field that was so famously flat was made tilted in favor of those looking to gain at the expense of countries and kids who were enjoying the game of soccer. this hijacking 1 being met with a very aggressive prosecutorial response in order to change behavior. >> awarding of the 2018 and 202 cups, and there are calls for fifa to post-own the presidential election schedule for friday. so for more on the corruption scandal play game, the world soccer federation,
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fever a. ali velshi, what do you make of in? >> tony, you lived around the world and you know that sock i the biggest sport in the world. and i'm only shocked at how shocked everybody seems to be. most people who know anything about fifa know the next thing about it, that it's a deeply corrupt organization, going back for decades. but here's the thing. everybody thinks it, and no one has really attempted to fix it, left of all fifa until today. the irony the thing that shocks me about the whole thing, that the move against fifa came from the united states a country where virtually nobody associates soccer. detailing a bribery scheme, going back to 1991. and the why now since you know, back to 2010, when the 2018 and 2022 world cups were
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awarded to russia qatar it hit a fevered pitch when a man was accused of bribing his colleagues for $5 million. and that apparently got them to vote for the qatar world cup in 202. cut ar 1 denying anything, but now people are asking, was south africa rigged too? it has less to do with the countries, and more that fifa was open it 24 kind of thing. tony if i knew you could get a world cup for $5 million, i would have gotten together a few people of. >> bribe going back decades totaling $150 million. and so what are we talking talking about here? >> part of this 1 bribing people vote for your degree but that's not the biggest part of it. i'll give you examples.
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the indict said that a company unnamed is said to have $40 million in a swiss bank account. and those funds were used to bribe brazilian soccer officials and in return, it helped secure a ten-year sponsorship deal from brazil. we don't know the company and some might have been insured that it's nikely. they are cooperating with the association, but you do the math make nike did make a deal in and now they're a bigger sports brand in adidas, raking in revenues, so that's the kind of stuff. >> what else is coming up on the show? >> i have a very, very conflicted discussion coming up on the show. because usually i like to challenge ideas and i'm challenging people who think that deep fried foods should be allowed back into the
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cafeterias in texas schools. intellectually, i know argument but i can't spiritually get behind fried foods. >> and you can watch ali velshi right here on aljazeera america. and once again aljazeera 1 funded in part by the government of qatar. >> . >> four years ago he finished second in the race, and pennsylvania senator, rick santorum is making another run. david schuster 1 here now. >> just like four years ago santorum begins the race near the back of the pack, but he has critical experience from having broken through before. surrounded by his family in a factory near his western pennsylvania hometown, rick santorum made it official. >> i am proud to stand here
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among you and for you. the american workers who have sacrificed so much to announce that i am running for president of the united states. >> the carefully scripted setting was designed to showcase the former senator's showcase on the working class. >> working families don't need another president tied to big government or big money. and today 1 the day. today is the day we're going to begin to fight back. >> four years ago santor um nearly went the distance, finishing as runner up to mitt romney in the presidential nomination. and 24 year, the field is already crowded with social conservatives, ted cruz, and mike huckabee, the gop runnerup in interstate. >> as president i will stand
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for the principle that every life matters. the poor, the disables and the unborn. >> passionate and charismatic santor um mirrors the hardcore republican hawks. >> if they on the economy and social issues santorum 1 a voice for conservative evangelicals. 12 years ago it got him into trouble. he told the associated press "in society the definition of marriage is not to my knowledge, homosexual assault. not to pick on homosexuality. man on child or man on dog and to destroy that, you have an impact on equality. gays were so outraged they led
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a webcam pain on google, with a definition on of santorum. and he was handed a crushing 18-point loss. and yet a few years later there was santorum winning the presidential primary and caucus battles. >> miracle after miracle this race was as probable as any you would see for president. >> but politics, only take you so far. >> join us. rick santorum.com, and let's take back america. >> in addition to the website. and in the 2012 success santorum 1 enlisting help from conservatives. he starts in the lower tier of candidates when comes to fundraising and political organization, and by his own
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stimulus he 1 counting on taking the political world by surprise. >> we'll watch it unfold. rich gaelan, rich, good to see you and i don't have a lot for you here, but in 24 field it's way too early for a deep dive into this political season. but let me start here. compare 2016 to 2012 if you will please, and how you think things will be different this time around for republicans. >> the first thing tony, the funding is ditch. and everybody understands the rules surrounding super pacts now, so what a candidate can do now, literally find a sugar daddy that has a b billions by his name, and the politics in america ras very entrepreneurial. if people liked what you said, they did.
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and if me didn't -- somebody like santor um and huckabee, they can't sneak up on people anymore. everybody knows who they are and what they did. for instance, as we go to iowa next january and february, one of them is going to lose. they can't both win it again and so at least one of them is going to have to go home disappointed and maybe both of them. >> rich, how many republican candidates are you anticipating here? i'm hearing numbers of 12, 14, maybe 20? >> i don't know if they will ever get to 20. i count 16 potential probables and maybes, and that includes donald trump and mike kasich from indiana. but this will sort itself out in june. next month i think everybody that is going to get in will get in. and by july 4th the campaigns will be up and running, and from that point on, it will begin to reduce as
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the backers feel they don't have a realistic chance. >> let me ask you this. how difficult because of your intimate knowledge of how campaigns work, how difficult does the challenge become, the larger the number in the field to sort of differentiate yourself and how important is it to be able to do that at a certain point? >> well, it's very important. i'm not sure if it's so important now. now is like spring training in the major leagues. it's the time when you know how to throw the ball to the cut off man you make mistakes, but as the games begin to count it becomes very important. and to your question, what you have to do 1 find your niche that people will cover and that's one the problems that rick santorum is going to have, we refer to him and huckabee, and they have to shout louder to try to be heard. >> so you're not to make 16
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that you can sort of, in your mind see as people confirmed and those who could possibly run. is there a dark horse candidate who you believe could shake things up? >> yeah, i do. i'm not supporting anybody but i think if i had to pick a dark horse candidate, i would pick former governor perry from texas. i think that he learned his lessons and he spent a lot of time figuring out what he wants to do and how to do it. and i think he could jump up and be the surprise in iowa next year. he's a serious guy and he doesn't take himself too seriously. but to your question, if i had to pick one, $28 be perry. >> rich, thank you for your time. rich gaelan, a pleasure. for house speak newt gingrich from washington, the white
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house is calling a controversial initiative, the waters of the united states, and it's a measure to protect the drinking water of 117 million americans and the critics call it another white house power grab. lisa stark is in washington d.c. with more on this. >> tony, this is all about the clean water act and it has been around for decades and it covers rivers and lakes but what it does, what smaller bodies of water come under the clean water act? things such as tributaries and wetlands and little streams for example. there has been confusion about that because of the supreme court case, and the epa said that it's clearing up the confusion. so the head of the epa went to the banks of the anacostia river here in washington d.c. to sign this new bill. and they say that 33% of the
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water, tributaries and if they act like ditches and contribute to pollution downstream. >> rivers and lakes we love, we judgments can't let them get pollute. we have to pay attention to the streams and wetlands that feed into these waterways because if they're not clean, this will not be either. >> now environmentalists applaud this, saying that it's long overdue but there's fierce opposition, particularly from the agricultural industry. >> farmers and ranchers will still have to worry about the epa coming on their property and how to use their land and the bolds of water. >> now the epa insists that the agricultural exceptions will not change. but opponents don't buy them. and they're going to be fighting this on capitol hill and probably in the courts as
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well tony. >> there you go, 10 capitol hill, what's the reaction on capitol hill? >> well, as you could expect, it's somewhat mixed. house minority leader, nancy nancy pelosi, said that it's i raw and tyrannical power grab. john said that it would hurt farmers and homeowners, and democrats from farm states and energy states teamed up to pass legislation that would scuttle this rule. and there's similar legislation pending in the senate. so this fight will go on, and though it's supposedly a final rule, there's nothing finally about it yet. the start of runner season is just four days away now and today, the forecasters with the
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national oshian pick association, or noah, are out with their predictions. >> this hurricane season should be quiet according to noah, and that's good for people in the coastal regions who have dealt with their fair share of hurricanes and storms, but noaa warns that no community is off the hook. the atlantic hurricane season will likely be calmer than thoroughly. according to noaa, the national atmospheric association. >> it requires us to do so, and everybody needs without being nervous about it, needs to be prepared and vigilant about it. >> ten years after hurricane katrina, mayor landrieu 1 confident that new orleans is prepared. >> after 14 $.5 billion, the hurricane structures that we have and the emergency
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preparations that we have all gotten better at, i can say without contradiction we are better off than a year ago. >> hurricane season officially starts on june 1st and ends on november 30th. experts predict that there will be between and 11 named storms with six of them becoming hurricanes and six strong storms, reaching category 3 or higher. >> no matter how many pitches mother nature throwsatus, if just one gets through strike zone, we could be in trouble. >> one rainy for the forecast, el nino, which 1 already influencing weather patterns. wind shear from el nino inhibits the storms, and it's expected to be on through the year. and the storms will be less intense fee. but it's floodwaters have ravaged texas this week, the
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message from the federal emergency management agency regarding any disaster is simple, have a plan. >> if you live on the central it's tornadoes and if you live on the we can, it's earthquakes, so it's important to know how to react in any disaster. >> noaa stress that's the seasonal outlook can't predict potential hurricane landfall. but the research and forecasting model will allow for better forecasts of the storm's path and intensity once it's formed. and tony, noaa reminds everyone that the below normal seasons can include pretty significant damaging events. think back to 1992, there were only seven named storms, but we ail remember the damage that it caused along the coast. know
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>> the irs reportedly believes that russian crime sinned cats may be to blame for a cyber crime involving more than 100,000 taxpayers, and libby we know at this point that hacking and computer fraud like this can be a very expensive problem. >> reporter: that's right tony and these most recent data breaches cost $50 million. and this was done over a long period of time. but to put it in perspective. the irs paid out $5.8 million
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in false tax returns. so we're talking about a very big business that can make criminals a lot of money and be very badder in american taxpayers. the cyber thieves didn't even need to hack into the irs they had enough personal questions to gain access to 100,000 past tax returns. >> the information they needed was very simple. name, social security, birthday, home addressle these are things that are pretty much out in the public domain at this stage in the game. and that data 1 already in the hands of the hacker communities. >> the criminals use the information to file fraudulent returns, collecting nearly $50 million in february. it's one in a series of costly data breaches in months. from retailers like home depot. even the white house is not immune. >> even the tax that's we see are coming from organized crime. these are people that go to
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work every day just like you and i do. they're well staffed well paid. and well incentived. >> the dark side is bombing. >> on the dark side, just to give you context, a credit card number is worth maybe a dollar or less, but however a healthcare record can be wort up to $50 in the kind of cyber market. >> that's because healthcare records contain vital information about a person's identity that can be mined for weeks or years. ibm said that companies lost $3.8 million last year to cyber crime. that's a 37% increase from 20132013. the study said that the cost is growing because the number of attacks are increasing. which means more money spent protecting and preventing them. and after the breach, companies have to deal with lost business
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and damaged reputation. barlow said that it will take a sophisticated defense. >> one of the biggest things that people have to do, we talked a lot about how the bad guys are sharing information and collaborating and on the defensive side, we need to do the same thing. and what this means sharing threat information between companies. >> legislation is advancing in congress to increase legislation sharing but disputes remain on how much like companies should get. and if the information she clod can be used against them. the senate finance committee is digging into the irs breach. one small thing that people can do to protect themself. when companies ask you for your place of birth or your mother's maiden name, instead of using your own pick a relative or friend, and use something that a hacker won't be able to get. >> libby casey, thank you.
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the average student loan debt in the united states $130,000. and older graduates tend to owe more and that includes millions of americans over the age of 55. as rob reynolds tells us now several are making loan payments after they retire. >> student loan debts are a crushing burden for millions of people in the u.s., and not just young people in for 20s. rosemary had a good job a marriage and high hopes when she went back to college in her late 30s for a master's degree in business manage many. and then her life changed. >> i was divorced and i had health problems, and the economic downturn, i no longer had the ability to make the payments. >> the loan amount grew as she made the payments, and now the principle is $135,000. on her income, she can barely afford to pay on the interest
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every month. >> it's just a constant sword 4 my side and noose around my neck, because it will never go away. >> when will you pay off this debt? >> never. when i die. >> anderson, who is 58, 1 one of the surprisingly large number of older u.s. residents dealing with student debt. there are about 7 million student loan borrowers in the u.s. over the age of 5 5. and together they owe about $155 billion in debt. unlike younger people who have their entire lives to pay off the debt, older borrowers are caught in a trap. >> the key difference is retirement is around the corner for people in their 50s. somebody who is 5 55, graduating their life is ahead of them. but when you're 5 5 adding another 20 years of repayment is overwhelming. >> and like other kinds of debt federal student loans
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cannot be written off through bankruptcy. they will even tap social security to get the money back. >> it's a no man's land. you'll pay until you die or theg take it through garnishment of your wages or social security, and when we're in this bad of a bind, we need to anything out how to help people in our society who need help the most. >> efforts to change it have gone nowhere. anderson 1 proud that she gots her education but having the debt overshadow those accomplishments 1 depressing. >> if i had committed a crime i would have more options for redemption or forgiveness, if you will, for my student loan debt. there's no forgiveness, there's no out. it's just there. growing every day. >> trapped in a modern day debtors prison, sentenced to life.
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aljazeera, santa cruz, california. >> and for a look at what's coming up at the top of the hour, john seigenthaler is here. >> we're going to talk about the fifa corruption charges with a former world cup player and new york times george vesy. plus -- >> he made the world worse for us. suppressed our language and our culture, and we had our population drop by at least 100,000 people as a result of the missions. >> sharp criticism of the popes canonizing of an 18 century missionary who ruled over native americans with an iron fist. would he be the first latino american saint in the united states? we'll find out. and plus, behind the scenes to create the biggest photograph in the world. all of those stories coming up in 3 minutes. >> see you then, and that's all of our time for this news hour. i'm tony harris. john seigenthaler back in a couple of minutes and then
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