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and what that means is really there there be higher broadband taxes for everybody else including people who are not quite poor enough to get the subsidy and there will be less subsidies for those who really need it. >> reporter: it's likely the new plan which will be voted on in june will cause fierce debate and they doubt access to the internet is essential, j a, miami, florida. as our machines got smarter and smarter technologyists said hey, don't worry, they on the know what they tell them. when certified smart guys like physicists steven hawking says wait a minute, you are playing with fire, is it time to be nor
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careful about artificial intelligence, machines smart enough to mistake decisions without us. one that is we may not like. that's tonight on "inside story". welcome to "inside story". i'm ray suarez, our world welcomes new products every day working fast and well in part. they are working without us. machines are learning by what they do today, tomorrow and next week, some get queasy, digitally enabled smart products will make decisions without being taught, and teach other machines without asking for permission. that's artificial intelligence
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at a time that launched stories for decades. here is al jazeera's jake ward. >> reporter: every day approximately 3 billion people go to a form of work and bring with them their human abilities - their experience, compassion, manual dexterity. in a generation, how many of these jobs will be done by a machine? in several industries it seems robots could do the work. the jobs are harder than it looks. one of those things is dry cleaning, it takes human dexterity to deal with the variety of clothes that we wear. a robot can't look at this, know what it is and feed it through a standardized machine that could handle other pieces of clothing. >> as soon as i was born my parents had me on their backs working the machine. by the age of 7 i was putting expungers on hangers, taking ticket at the counter. by the age of 16 i was working
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on saturday so they could have a day off. my whole life i've pretty much worked at a drycleaners. >> we need humans to drive us around in taxis. >> they are pushing us to a world where humans are worse than necessary. at the moment we need human resources and judgment and senses letting us know dangerous stuff like when the person in front of us is drunk. let's look at how many are effected. out of a total workforce, 210,000 work in the dry cleaning laundry industry. 233,000 workers, are drivers of taxis. half a million would be in need of new lines of work in just the two industries. >> the u.s. military is a
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driving force behind robotics and artificial intelligence. a robot can also wield a weapon and track the troops. >> it's a futuristic agency, in charge of insane products. >> the most important was a concept that could divide an attack. they hosted a competition like this. they could drive themselves and they wound up with google's self-driving car. we tend to be afraid of robots much maybe it was the movies, the best robot lab in hollywood, and sometimes they can be a little scary. others don't have that. they have an open idea about what a robot could do to help us. the future is exciting. military aspects are alarming.
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the military built the x 47 b. a pilotless combat plane that can take off and land without human assistance. and the military held exercises in 2014 experimenting with weaponized robots, the thing that hollywood screen writers based their scripts on, it would be another generation before artificial generations will make it possible to make a meal or press a shirt and a few years before they drive a car. the irony is killing a human is a simple task, and robots can do that now jacob ward joins me from san francisco. welcome back to "inside story". for the purposes of this conversation, what do we mean when we talk about intelligence in artificial intelligence. is it autonomy. >> yes. it is autonomy.
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there has been a tremendous kind of tectonic movement in the last 10, 20 years around robotics and the notion of art initial intelligence. could we get to the case of singularity, where robots are smarter than we are, and get to a place where they are enhancing our lives without having to anticipate. that idea has sort of fallen out of favour, and it became clear how difficult it would be, to create a robot. that could learn on its own, that could perceive its surroundings, it was just the complexity from the brain. we are getting to a place where data is plentiful. that is the key to teaching on artificial machine. how to receive surroundings and make decisions, and how it gets more and more powerful. we are better at
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feeding it to robots such that it is learning. is it the ability to make smart calculations in their mind, or is it experience in the sense that humans understand. early on in this age i was speaking to someone who hoped to design ai, and he said well, building a computer that is like a human brain is hard, because we do so many things so quickly because we can call on all our memories, call on the accessions quickly, in the early 1990s, that technologist couldn't
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the yes, no, stop, go binary world. maybe not. martin joins me, author of "rise of the robots", as you heard, bill hibbert in the last segment talked about how we first thought mundane tasks would be replaced by machines, now higher order ones are. should we be worried. >> yes, there has been a lot of hype given to the issue of superintelligent machines doing things like taking over. we hear elon musk and steven hawking worrying about that. that lies in the future. the impact on jobs is happening now, it doesn't require sign for example technology, just an extension on what is happening. most workers in the economy do relatively routine predictable things, which is suited to robots and
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algorithms and technology. we'll see a big impact over the there. >> are we in a position where we have to take the good with the bad? i mean we like the fact that a blood monitor can test our sugar and but just the right amount of insulin into our mix so we remain upright and alert. we like that. we don't have to say machine, manage my blood sugar, it does it without us thinking about it. >> that's right. it's a dual ench sword. -- dual-edge sword. this has made us more wealthy over time. that's why today we are better off than 100 years ago. it's the advance of technology, technology is reaching an inflection point, a new age where machines are going to start
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substituting for loss of workers. on the surface that is not necessarily a bad thing, it may mean we have to do less work, or less of the work that we find unpleasant. it creates a distributional issue, a problem where more and more people can't find a place in the economy, where they don't have skills to find a marketable job and may not have access to an income. >> earlier in our history that was portrayed to workers as something that would make us freer from toil, and wealthier and give us leisure time. it turns out not to have done that at all. why not? >> it turns out that in the economy as it exists, people aren't saishiated. they want more and more. in order to survive in the economy, you have to work full-time. there are, of course, people
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that work part time for what we find is that very often the people have to string together two or three jobs because we have seen a massive increase in the cost of living. realistically it doesn't appear that capitalism is going to lead to a world where we can work a few hours a week, and everything will be fine. >> exactly. >> exactly. >> earlier in the programme, we heard something about mindful, and managing this technological shift. can it be managed. can it be done in a way that is less destructive. that means the world is not way? >> well, i think it should be possible to adapt to the economic implications of it. what i advocated and say in my book is in the long run we'll have to move towards a guaranteed income scheme where everyone will have access at least to a minimum income,
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whether they work or not. in the context of today's politics, it's radical and seems impossible. the paradox is it's probably inevitable if we do the adaptation. eventually people will come to see that, and there may be a direction. >> what are some things that are about. >> we see it across the board. it impacts every aspect. flipping hamburgers, sitting in an office, driving a car, truck they are all impacted. one of the interesting things that we see is that the conventional wisdom is the lowest skilled jobs. in fact, what we see a many
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white-collared knowledge jobs are easier to operate. it doesn't require arms or so forth. we are seeing some of the better jobs hit harder. that creates a paradox going forward. software. >> it's researched now. where they do the brains primarily and not the hands, and are susceptible to this. on the other hand people that fold laundry, we'd like to automate that. it is difficult with the technology, it would be a long time before we build a robot to do that. >> author of "rise of the robots." i'll have a final thought in a moment of being careful what you wish for.
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in the movies artificial intelligence scares us when it moves forward just out of our reach, and scares us by being too human and superhuman all at once. if you had your job replaced by an intelligent machine, it's probably not resulted as we were told it would in world fairs or disneyland displays or release from human druggingry and increased leisure time. analysing insurance claims, filing inscriptions and driving across town, it involves some of the discontent that a company repeated activities, but you do have a wonder about how the benefits are distributed and you have to wonder and if you question the pace and breadth. for now, thanks to the people that made the machines that bring me to you tonight, and thanks to the humans that make them work.
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