>> hi everyone, this is al jazeera america. i'm john siegenthaler. more troops. with i.s.i.l. gaining ground in iraq's military losing steam hundreds more u.s. soldiers are headed to iraq. will it be enough? crime and punishment. a detainee beaten to death in a new york jail. why it took three years to charge the guards involved. crossing the line. >> do you take any pleasure when you see anyone getting shot?

>> good for one rancher's controversial fence. >> plus classic rock. >> when we joined forces, everything exploded. >> my conversation with the talented and popular duo two cellos. is. >> america's long applicanted an controversial presence in iraq will not end soon. saddam hussein is gone but the u.s. backed government is under threat from i.s.i.l. president obama was hesitant

oadmit, the mission to train soldiers and sunni militiamen trying to retake ramadi. but as patty culhane reports they won't have a combat roll. >> reporter: a year after the fall of mosul. ten months after the start of coalition air strikes. and the be islamic state of iraq and the levant continues its mover across iraq,move across iraq. the sunni population, the u.s. says it will open a new training facility. the location of this one of is important, in takatem in anbar province. >> by training, by opening this training mission essential in the neighborhood where we want

these sunni fighters to fight we can make it easier for them to get training and equipment in anbar province and then go carrying out the fight in anbar province, by shrinking the distance, we hopefully will make it easier for the abadi government to train those fighters. >> stress they'll do it in consultation with the iraqi government. but there are many critics in washington who say there. >> one commander in chief at a time. the president of the united states. no strategy, as he admitted himself, much less an overarchingoverarching strategy. to be deal with threats in the middle east. >> forces on the ground so they could direct air strikes. the white house says that isn't on the table table now.

>> i think president has put himself in a bit of a box. the president has said no boots on the ground and so any time you put people aside from putting planes flying over, people on the ground even if they're in the way of providing forward air support you're effectively putting boots on the ground. so i think president's kind of trapped himself in a position so therefore he's reluctant to do this. >> instead the white house says their strategy of training iraqi troops will work, instead it will take too much time. how much time they won't say. patty culhane are be al jazeera, washington. >> and jamie mcintire is at the pentagon. jamie. >> to say that the white house and the pentagon aren't singing from the same sheet of music would be a slight understatement. you heard the white house said a training mission training

troops. the pentagon says no, that's not going to be happening. most of the 450 troops are the security to protect the advisors. about a quarter are actually advisors. what they'll be doing is coordinating with iraqi leaders to help them try to get their game-on so they can go after the i.s.i.l. forces approximately it will be advising the advising the iraqis from everything from logistics to intelligence. they will be providing weapons body armor and equipment to those beleaguered be be troops to get them back into battle-ready form, to get them back for counteroffensive in the next weeks or months. >> are we talking of strategy on how to conduct a counteroffensive? >> reporter: yes to provide

u.s. expertise in mounting counteroffensive. it might not be an exaggeration saying a lot of the top advisors will be kind of calling the shots with the iraqis out in front. the other part of this mission is to have some outreach to the sunni population to also begin to bring them into the fold. >> so patty culhane says the pentagon wants to train sunni fighters. how is that going to work? >> the plan is just to have some outreach just try omake some contact trying to convince the sunni fighters who by the the weigh the u.s. left in the lunch the last time around, identify people down the road, they will probably get training but not at this base but these advisors will be advising at a much more tactical level.

>> sound like theory rather than practice. thank you jamie. tonight we're getting a rare look inside mosul how i.s.i.l. uses intimidation, indoctrination and violence to maintain control. zeina khodr has the report. >> beyond the bridge, the largest urban center in northern iraq, be many are expected to live there cut off from the rest of the country. >> the people have to leave but they have to pay i.s.i.l. a large amount of money which they can't pay they live in a prison. >> reporter: these people are born and raised in mosul they fled to the kurdish controlled north when i.s.i.l. took over. al jazeera doesn't have contact with the city but they have access to the people who film.

they even preach in malls. according to these journalists i.s.i.l. hides its weapons in civilian neighborhoods so that people will turn against u.s. led coalition when it targets the area. but i.s.i.l. does have some support. it is able to exploit sunni grievances. many in the community have long felt targeted by the shia led government. >> we can't deny there are those who support i.s.i.l. i.s.i.l. has an ideology and they exploit the long held repression against sunnis. be they believe kurds want their land. >> reporter: they have managed to hold the lines with u.s. led air strikes but they have no plan to move towards the mainly sunni city. the arabs say they will play a supporting role.

the iraqi government's plans to do so have been stalled but i.s.i.l. has reportedly been preparing for that battle. it has dug a trench around the city and concrete barriers as a last line of defense and is breeding the last generation of fighters. >> i.s.i.l. is recruiting children. we have information there are a thousand new graduates. there will be sleeper cells since they have brainwashed the children. >> reporter: a major part of the i.s.i.l. strategy is to control every aspect of the lives of people under its rule to ensure its ideology will endure for generations to come. zeina khodr be northern iraq. >> mike lyons is al jazeera security contributor. sounds like boots on the ground. >> it's not.

they're there to train give the iraqis the confidence in their equipment. whether they're recruits remains to be seen but they're going to try to train the sunni tribes men right there. >> let me push back. jamie said maybe most of them are going to provide security. >> these are the american green berberets. that's the elite of the elite. align them economically do something because until these two groups decide especially in anbar to fight together, ramadi remains in the hands of i.s.i.s. >> it strikes me that ever since the united states got involved in iraq in the first gulf war that we have been talking about this. how do sunni and shia get

together? and the united states still hasn't found a way. >> no. you know maybe it's economics. tie their interest together outside of religion into something. we tried to export democracy there, you saw rumsfeld say that was a failed mission to begin with. we tried to import democracy maybe it should have been capitalism. >> is retaking ramadi realistic and what's left of ramadi? >> any sometime the forces take back the city it's destroyed. that's going to be the issue. >> ramadi as we knew it is not going to exist. >> it's going to be likely destroyed, there will be ieds, trouble for whoever. >> and the first thing for these advisors when they hit the ground? >> take inventory. find out a good soldier does that figure out where he needs -- what resources he needs to employ, and the security

situation is so deadly we might not survive it. >> let me ask you this. how is it that the united states is so far into it but still is not sure about the strategy? >> we're sure about the strategy. that's what the president confused earlier in the week. >> really? >> this is not a change in strategy. the tactics are minimalist. had we decided to put ground controllers or apache ground controllers -- >> the president promised he wasn't going to do that. take risk away from those u.s. troops. the united states does that again, it's putting american soldiers right back into the thick of it. >> that's right this administration want a zero-body count. they don't want another american soldier to die in iraq. you'll see this administration hold to that until they're out of office. >> mike lyons, thank you very

much. state department confirmed that keith broomfield's death his mother believed it was god's will that he go to syria. called him a martyr. as the bloody civil war in syria rages on a new report from the syrian observatory for human rights says the conflict has claimed a shocking number of lives. after four years of civil war the numbers are staggering and growing. according to the london-based syrian observatory of human rights, more than 230,000 have died since march ever 2011. 108 civilians 11,000 children and 7300 women. the organization says 33,000 rebel and islamic fighters have

been killed as well as 49,000 regime officers and soldiers and 31,000 fighters from i.s.i.l. and other armed groups. there's no way to verify the numbers. the syrian observatory says they could actually be much higher. now to egypt. egyptian police say they foiled an attack today near the ancient city of luxor. a suicide bomb are was targeting a bus load of tourists when he blew himself up. it is the second attack on a major egyptian somewhere tourist attraction in a week. tunisian ship rescued a boat of migrants. migrants were mostly from africa trying to reach the italian

ieltsisland of lampedusa. coming up, stopping migrants crossingcrossing into texas from mexico. plus a new research researchers say they call staggering, alarming number of suicides by female veterans.

>> the attorney for former texas police officer eric casebottle says his emotions got the better of him. he pulled a gun on teens at a pool party. the attorney says casebowled is casegold is getting death threats. >> he says he lost his cool because his nerves were frayed.

this officer in this now famous video says it was stress not racism that led to the take down of a teenager in texas. >> he let his emotion is get in the better of him. >> the officer is in hiding afraid for his life. revealing the ten-year-old mckinney officer had responded to two suicide calls earlier in the day including one where a man shot himself in front of his family. so serious that he was reluctant to respond to the pool call. >> with all that happened that day he allowed his emotions to get the better of him. >> reporter: but there's no excuse for his response says the attorney for girl in the video. >> officer case casebolt's southbound

action he were unjustified. she believes there's no wrongdoing on her part. she's 15. we have to remember that and has the mindset of a 15-year-old but no there isn't much she thinks she could have done to avoid the situation. >> casebottlecasebolt said he wasn't act discriminatorily. >> the officer was out of control during the incident. >> he accepted casebolt's resignation yesterday although he will keep his retirement. >> everything going on is not transpiring a fair investigation in this process. these children were victimized.

we need the city of mckinney to really stand up for justice for these teens. >> casebolt's attorney says he has no specific plans for future but realizes he mail face charges in the future. final piece in a massive effort by state lawmakers to bolster security on the border with mexico. heidi zhou-castro has more from brooks county, texas. >> reporter: what does it feel like to be shocked with 200 -- >> not good. it will make you wet your pants. >> when it comes to stopping illegal immigration to the united states, brooks county rancher mike vickers sees himself as part of the solution. >> see there's two of them. they get over the first one they're going to get in the

second one. >> there's no way you can get over the fence? >> no no no. it is going to get you. it's going to get you. >> located 70 miles north of the u.s. mexico border his ranch is prime real estate for people trying to avoid border patrol. that is because it sits just north one of the busiest immigration checkpoints in the country. as migrants go around it to keep from getting caught, they walk through private property like the vickers ranch. leaving trash clothing and property damage in their wake. >> reporter: there's people who say you're the only rancher in brooks county who has a electrified fence. and they see that as inhumane. >> that could be, i probably am. but it works. that electric fence has been here a long time. and some of the people that do not have it can't even run

cattle on their property like i was telling you because their fences are constantly being destroyed. >> reporter: last year more than 200,000 people were caught trying to cross into the united states through the texas-rio grande valley. when we first visited him last year vickers said he saw dozens of people are crossing his property every day now it's down by half. he believes it is not only as a moafnghts or themotivation for work. >> these criminals are subsidizing. >> i understand that but what if the next person who is shot a mother or a child? >> i'm going to tell you that's probably not going to happen. they are going to dig under. it takes a lot of energy to be able to climb over this high fence. >> do you get any pleasure in

seeing somebody getting shocked by your high fence? >> well, i have to say i do. >> it is unknown what killed this woman found next to vickers' fence nearly two years ago. vickers believes she died of exhaustion. the sheriff's office here says they'll likely never know for sure. >> she looked to the you to be guatemalan. >> she would are have discovered a crawl hole underneath the fence leading to a highway and help. >> she almost made it there but she laid down and died. >> what does that mean to you? >> i guess if i didn't have a fence, she might not have died but if i that was so my cattle

would get out and might get killed by the traffic. >> camouflage and thermal imaging equipment looking to catch people as they cross. >> you've been called in the past a human hunter. what do you make of that? >> well, i guess there's a little bit of truth to that. when we find -- when we suspect people on our property, we'll investigate. and if we see them, we'll call law enforcement to apprehend them and take the matter into their hands. we're not out here trying to arrest them at gunpoint or anything like that. we do watch our property and if we've got perpetrators or trespassers on our property, half the time these people are people that have criminal backgrounds. >> reporter: just across the highway we find three young men trying to make their way north. the kind of people vickers is trying to keep out. but instead of running away,

when we walk towards them they walk towards us begging for water. they have walked for two days. they are not criminals they say just here for a better life. when you look at what these people have been through they are here two days, the fence is in the way and they get shocked. >> they have a crawl hole they can climb under instead of having to crawl over this fence. >> vickers defines each one of these he turned into law enforcement another life he saved from the desert. >> i feel what they're doing is wrong. it is a huge detriment to our country. it is a huge expense to the taxpayers to take care of them once they get here. we can't take care of the whole world. >> heidi zhou-castro, al jazeera, brooks county, texas. >> still ahead on this broadcast. highlighting dangerous

conditions in new york city's largest jail. the charges against guards in the killing of a detainee. plus the pope's plan to investigate bishops accused of covering up the sexual abuse of children. children.

>> hi everyone, this is al jazeera america. i'm john siegenthaler. inside job. guards charged in the 2012 beating death of an inmate. what's being done to fight abuse

in america's jails. women in uniform. a staggering rate of suicide found among female veterans. >> with approximately 22 veterans dying by suicide every day and more attempting suicide. >> new questions about the military and mental health. judgment day. the vatican plans to hold roman catholic bishops accountable for decades of sexual abuse. plus deep impact. how two classical cell it's iflts areists are getting millions of lits on youtube. we begin with one of america's largest and most troubled jails. rykers island in new york. some have been accused of shocking crimes that we at al jazeera have extensively covered. today two guards at rykers were

arrested on federal charges in connection with the beating death of an inmate. courtney kealy has more. >> reporter: the u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york says a rykers island prison guard beat an inmate to death. brian cole faces five counts including a federal civil rights violation, byron taylor is charged in three counts. ronald spear was restrained by two other corrections officers while spear was lying prone on the ground and still restrained cole repeatedly kicked spear in the head even when another officer tried to protect spear's head and shouted to stop. spear who had ciz any disease died from the attack.

spear pled guilty to conspiracy charges. agreed to pay $2.75 million. rykers island houses nearly 10,000 prisoners on a given day. earlier this week new york's mayor reaffirmed a vow to reform the jail system after the death of kaleleef browder. i deeply wish we had not lost him but he did not die in vein. >> reporter: the teenager waited for a trial that never happened. he was released when prosecutors dropped the charges. his attorneys said his time at rykers directly contributed to his death.

courtney kealy, al jazeera. >> i just want to talk about these charges. give me your reaction to that. >> unfortunately, these are the sort of situations that happen when we fail to stay care of the most severely mentally ill. and i think it's important because we're looking too often at the mentally ill as violent as perpetrators when the reality is more often than not in almost every instance, they're the victims. >> you know we talked last night about chicago's jail, new york's jail, chicago essentially has hired a person to run that city's jail. that's a mental health professional. is that what's necessary for all the jails in this country? because we've shut down mental health facilities? >> it's a testament to sheriff dart in illinois, the focus that he's paid to the severely

mentally ill. but the reality is if we're in this situation we are failing as a country. we simply ask not have situations where the -- simply cannot have situations where the mentally ill are treated in the wos situation, which is a jail or prison. >> how common is that? >> it's very, very common. we've cut mental health beds to the level of 1850. >> what does a mental health program in a jail look like? >> well, the reality is, there is no ideal mental health system in a jail. you are really talking about the least terrible situation. the least terrible way to treat someone. because the there is no good way -- a correctional facility is there to correct a person's behavior. the focus is on doing what the guard asks and on order. and a person with a severe mental illness just can't do

well in that sort of scenario because of their illness. >> wait. are you suggesting that people who are convicted of crimes if they are mentally ill they shouldn't be in jail? >> the reality is the vast majority of the severely mentally ill that are in jails and prisons are there for minor crimes. things like loitering or panhandling or drug related ordinances that are basically themself-medicating and none of those situation he are the sort of thing that we should have them in a jail or prison. >> but john there are plenty of mentally ill people who have committed horrible crimes. the jails are full of people like them, right? what do you do with them? >> there's a combination of people but i think vast majority are those folks who are simply there because they are not getting the treatment they need in the community. >> all right. so what's the answer? >> the answer is pretty simple.

the answer is providing that scare in the community. we have gotten to a point now where these sort of situations, these sort of traj tragedies that we hear about every day are obvious and predictable. we know when we cut mental health resources when we don't do the right things with our laws and with our treatment programs this sort of situation is going to happen. we shouldn't be acting surprised at this point. >> john snook it's good to see you. thank you for joining us. a top white house be department says, the court is expected to hand down the decision later this month. that so end health insurance subsidies for millions of america americans. mike viqueria has more from washington. >> reporter: good evening swron. on the eve of a momentous decision that could gut obamacare, be if you break it

you bought it. the hhs secretary sylvia burwell testifying before the house human services committee, saying this is the case where the obamacare, some 6 million of them could lose the subsidies living in 34 states where republicans have refused to build their own exchanges instead having the federal government do it for them. here is burwell before the committee. >> if the court says we don't have the authority to give the subsidies, the critical decisions will lie with congress and the states to determine if those subsidies are available. >> she says it will.be up to republican governors in many of those states, no one believes the senators or governors will be acting any time soon to enact a fix.

politically vulnerable they are trying oturn up the pressure ahead of the decision. it could come as early as monday. john. >> mike viqueria in washington. the senate heard testimony about the amtrak derailment in fixed e-philadelphia that killed eight and injured 200 others. no indication that the train's engineer was using his smartphone but the investigation is far from over. >> there was no talking or texting or data usage involved however, as you're aware, there are 400,000 pieces of data involved in the analysis. and because of the extent of that things like use of an app or other use of the phone has not been determined. >> the train was traveling more traveling more than 100 miles an hour when it derailed double the speed limit. the accident could have been avoided if positive train control system had been in

place. it is vatican today pope francis urged russian president vladimir putin the find a solution to the crisis in ukraine. during the 50 minute meeting the two discussed the need for russia to restart talks with ukraine. today the pope announced a new plan to investigate catholic bishops accused of failing to prevent child sexual abuse and covering it up. victims' advocates had been calling for bishops to be accountable for years. with the new plan there's new hope and also deep skepticism. diane eastabrook is in rome. diane. >> one victim advocate i talked to said in the past, the conflictvaticanhasn't done well to

police itself. >> this is the age we were when the priest sexually violated us. >> reporter: still suffering emotion abuse they suffered as children at the hands of priests. she was one of those kids. if the vatican is serious about rooting out abuse it doesn't need a special tribunal. >> we know that pope francis has complete authority to take whatever action he wants. if he wanted to, he could have sacked any bishop at any time. and he is the boss. >> reporter: bowing to criticism from victims and advocacy groups, the vatican says its new tribunal will examine and lay out a formal process by which the vatican can deal with bishops negligent in handling abuse cases in their districts. but blayne is demanding more transparency from the pope and

resources from outside the vatican as well. >> he should open up the files and turn over all information that he has about sex crimes to police and prosecutors. there shouldn't be investigations within the church. we're talking about criminal action here. >> the pope answer actions come more than -- the pope's actions come more than a year after the situation, enforcing rules requiring local church leaders to report abuse to authorities. also last year the chicago archdiocese released thousands of pages of documents alleging abuse by dozens of priests against 350 children dating back to the 1950s. it's paid out more than $130 million to settle claims by abuse victims the most recent coming a month ago for $1.2 million. blayne says her organization

gets more than 6,000 calls a year from victims in nearly 80 countries. while she's skeptical about the tribunal she hopes it will do some good. >> it's hard to think that they are good at policing themselves. but it sure would be nice if someone would hold them accountable. >> reporter: now to date no bishops have been punished or removed for not reporting abuse among their clergy. one bishop though earlier this year was able to resign for failing to report abuse. john. >> thank you dien diane. now, to darfur. imran garda is here. >> hundreds of thousands have been guild and millions have been displaced since them. this year 150 million have had

to flee their homes. simply understaffed with just 15,000 troops on the ground and that is long as president bashir is in power the peace keeping mission's hands are tied. >> if the government could have necessary conditions to make that possible and those conditions have to do with the security, the protection of civilians, the guarantees for their protection and security, their ability to go back home without fearing that they might be attacked or something. >> osama called for an exit strategy and failure of unam demplet should lead to withdrawal. in our next hour, a closer look at the be u.n. mission to work. john. >> imran, thank you. >> for years the pentagon has known that suicide's a major problem among men.

the finding suggests the risks are almost as high for women. now the department of veterans affairs is trying to figure out why. stark new numbers in a veterans affairs department study reveals that female veterans take their lives far more than be civilian women. the causes are complicated. the pattern goes back to the 1950s, indicating it is more than the stress of america's recent wars. among both sexes the suicide is almost 12 times as high as the civilian population. at a hearing wednesday the house committee on veterans affairs addressed some of the factors. >> a potentially deadly mix of opioid use is contributing to the veterans suicide.

opioids, combined with inadequate supervision. >> i'm particularly concerned about self medication. >> the va says more than thafl veterans it treats report dealing with chronic pain, half a million take some opiate medication for it. >> more attempting suicide reducing instances of overmedication and limiting access to powerful prescription medications must be included in a comprehensive approach to addressing this issue. >> in their report, va researchers urge continued study of why women threefg military leaving the military are at such high risk of taking their own lives. >> paula caufan, she is in

jacksonville florida. paula welcome. what do you make of these numbers, what do you think the cause is? >> i'm sorry to say that i think the major contributing cause to this kind of tragic ending to a person's career probably is attributed to the epidemic of sexual assault in the military. i think that we find statistically there are such a dramatic increase in is is people leaving the military, because of something we are so deeply committed to and really not finding the support they need once outside the military, i believe it leads to a very desperate and tragic ending for many of our veterans and our skiff duty members. >> the study looked in that direction but didn't actually address this issue directly. but let's get a little bit

deeper on this. that's a strong suggestion. is it being reported more and now the military and the public is hearing about it? >> well, i think that sexual assault epidemic in the military has been consistent and perhaps the numbers are getting worse because people are finally feeling a little bit more inclined to report when a crime has been committed against them by another military member. however, the overarching problem in the military is when this problem occurs and the victim finally does feel confident to report the latest statistics support such severe retribution against victims and the way they are usually processed out of the

military leaves them as a veteran again on the streets without really much support. i can't particularly expect a direct correlation because the military really hasn't been forthcoming in providing exact statistics on who is leaving the military because of a sexual assault and who is committing suicide because of a sexual assault. but what we do understand is that the number of women and men that are forced out of the military after reporting a sexual assault contributes to a high level of dysfunction. and perhaps even lending to a seriously deficient mental health provider from the va and from the military. i mean, that is what happened to me. >> we've heard about other causes ptsd, drug use what do you think about that? >> well i think that it's taken a long time for military to

understand that ptsd doesn't necessarily come from what most people consider only acombat-related injury. ptsd or post-traumatic stress disorder is now finally being recognized by the military for those who have been victim to military sexual trauma. and you know, there are all sorts of contributing factors into why a person leaves the military and becomes suicide suicidal and i think we have to look more closely at what the government is doing towards supporting these members. and it's men and women but the most dramatic increase in women veterans leaving the military and committing suicide is, i think you can trace it back to a lack of command support. >> it's been years since the tail hook scandal. how far has the u.s. military come? >> not very far. in fact, it was almost 25 years ago, when i reported my sexual

assault against me, in the military. and i don't think that, really, the dynamic has changed much at all for anyone in the military that's been the victim of this kind of crime. the command support is not there. and really, there are -- there are steps to improve the ability for a victim to report, but we now understand from the human rights watch report that was released just last week that the retribution and retaliation against victims in the military is just as strong as it was when i reported. and that dynamic is never going to change until -- >> that must be frustrating to you. >> it is. and it's extremely distressful to think now we have statistics that support the suicides that occur after that kind of effect. and it had that kind of effect on my mental health.

and i'm lucky that i have been able to channel what happened to me into something of a broader scope to help others. but it's -- it remains. and it's not changing quickly enough. >> paula we appreciate your insight and for sharing your story tonight. thank you very much. we'll talk about that again. >> i hope so. thank you very much. >> we'll be right back after this. this.

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the news continues next with imran garda.

>> adjusting u.s. strategy. >> the situation on the ground in iraq would benefit from more trained iraqi security forces. >> president obama gives the order to send hundreds of additional u.s. troops into iraq to advise and assist. a somber procession. hundreds of people lined the streets of germany to pay their final respects to 16 high school students and two t