| [music] | hello there. this is the news hour live from london. coming up, a man charged with killing nine people in a south carolina church faces a court herring. also ahead. >> i remain optimistic on this one. >> a ceasefire is still possible despite the geneva peace talks ending with no progress. greek banks are thrown a temporary lifeline.

and solidarity with the homeless as one is about to lave thousand. i'm with the sport news. i have never taken performance performance enhancing drugs says mo fer. a the gunman arrested in the south carolina shootings kossfessed dylann roof is due to face a hearing where he will face viea video. the governor is calling for him to get the death penalty.

>> this is a hate crime. we have been talking with investigators going through the interviews and say they looked pure evil in the eye yesterday. these are nine families struggling. this is a state hurt by the fact that nine people innocently were killed. we absolutely want him to have the death penalty. this is the worst case i and the country have seen for a long time. we will fight this as hard as we can. >> vigils have been held around the country for the victims and their loved ones. these scenes in philadelphia have been repeated around the country with more planned as the religious community comes together. the latest live from andy gallagher who is live in charleston for us. we have learned more about the suspect and his possible motivations for this attack. >> reporter:

dylann roof is expected to appear in court via video link. one of the interesting things we are hearing is he told investigators he almost didn't carry out the shooting. he entered the church wednesday night and sat with that prayer group for a full hour before the shooting happened. he said they were simply so nice to him he had second thoughts. obviously that doesn't change the nature of the tragedy. we hear from friends. dylann roof who thought black people were taking over the country and wanted to start some kind of civil war. a disturbed individual who is now in custody. he was arrested after a 14 hour manhunt, expedited to south carolina. one of the key questions we don't have an answer for is why this young man allegedly drove a full two hours from his home and specifically picked this church. this is being investigated as a hate crime f. you talk to

african/americans in this community, they have no doubt this was a crime purely motivated by hatred. >> we have seen so many shootings of this sort before and every time they happen, the u.s. then is asked to question its gun laws. that is happening again. >> to be fair, only a few people question that. it's something president obama talked about for the 14th time in his presidency. it's time to have a conversation about gun control. over 10 to 15 years i have been to many of the mass shootings and many much worse, this is a very sad occurness. never has that conversaitionz conversation happened. you can't get those for or against in the same room to talk about change. groups like the nra is so powerful it's not going to happen. at the moment in charleston

people don't want to focus on the actions of one young white male, they are coming together as a community across the community, black and white and that's what they want to remember. and more than anything else they want to remember the nine lives lost here on wednesday night. >> andy gallagher live from charleston. thank you, andy. u.n. brokered talks in geneva to end the war in yemen have collapsed. warring factions have been meeting since wednesday seeking an end to the fighting. the two sides didn't reach an agreement and are due to leave over the weekend. the u.n. envoy says it is still possible and the door is open for further dialogue. >> we believe that if there is further conversation we can reach the ceasefire and withdrawal.

we feel it requires further conversation and we can achieve it soon. i remain optimistic on this one. >> there was no let up in the violence in yemen. air strikes have killed 10 civilians north in of the country. the strong hold was the main target of the recent ariel attack. the u.n. has ale pood for 1.6 billion to help 21 million yemeni. supplies are running low and fears of an out break of deng denghi fever. >> the hope remains determined that they the violence has to stop before they move forward. we have two different narratives and each parth is not willing to -- party is not willing to

make concessions. the u.n. has to not been able to reconcile those differences. there is a growing agreement there needs to be a ceasefire. they have high hopes of a potential of a ceasefire in geneva. this is not happening. this is bad news for yemenis who are suffering on a daily basis. the russian the american, the europe ans and iranians and saudis can pull the strings and try to find aned an immediate truce during the month of ramadan. a 22-year-old died as police tried to disperse a group. similar clashes have erupted in

other parts of the country. the consulate is being closed in libya after the kidnapping of three staff. the foreign minister says they are all back home. the release follows the grant of an extradition by a tu nissian court of a member of the down dawn militia. let's return to one of our main stories the failure of the latest talks on yemen that took place in geneva earlier. thank you so much for being with us. how much hope did people in yemen have that these talks might produce something like

a ceasefire? >> generally since the announcement people have been skeptical for any positive out come. that -- people are not willing to gamble away any hope. it wasn't what they generally would have thought would come out as a positive agreement to the talks. >> do people still believe that a political solution is possible? >> the solution for what is happening right now is political but people don't believe it. they believe things are going to continue like this for quite a while. and no good will come out of any

talking and any sort of comfort because they haven't manageed to come to an agreement while talking during the national dialogue. they are not going to come away from an awith an agreement away from yemin. >> do they support one side or the other or not really care about politics at all now? >> yeminis have been apolitical. it has been a process for quite a while. now it's not like their allegiance lies to one side or the other they see no hope in anyone. in the north people are

anti-saudi, in the south they are struggling to fight off the resistance and are pro survival. there is no one side or another that has a strong backing behind it. but things are just the way they are in terms of who to support. and whoever is doing the most harm is most disliked that's what is going on in yemin. as politicians prepare to sign a peace deal these fighters get ready for war. will the guns ever fall silent?

the european central bank has agreed to increase support for greece. the new funding is believed to be worth up to 3.4 billion and is expected to tied the banks over until monday when more may be needed. that is still less than the 4.2 billion customers have within from greek banks in the last week and twice the amount of money currently at the center of the impasse. the 1.8 billion repayment the greek government is due to make by the end of the month. we get more. >> reporter: the run on greek banks has accelerateed to a stampede in recent days. more than 1 billion was withdrawn on thursday and friday. the total out flow since last

weekend more than four-point seven billion. the european central bank extended the emergency assistance to the greek lenders and the possibility that athens they be forced to impose capital controls can't be ruled out. >> capital controls are very possible. there are huge out flows of greek banks. this thing we have to avoid might happen and the next step is chaos. >> it will be tough for a period of time, that's for sure. we are entering into a new era that is unchartered territory for me. >> reporter: the aght athens government must make a repayment or be the first to go broke and forced out of the single european currency. athens will not make the cuts saying it would makes it debt

problems worse. the prime minister is addressing an economic forum. it has seen greece and russia sign a gas pipeline deal worth hundreds of millions a year to athens. >> we would like to use our position as a spring board to benefit from it and make every effort to achieve good results based on the cooperation we have been enjoying with other countries. russia is one of the most important partners for us. >> reporter: closer ties between athens and moscow will be watched by greece's european partners and the crisis is top of the agenda at the on-going meeting. >> we hope for the best but must be prepared for the worst. in the united kingdom we have taken measures to increase economic security to deal with risk factors from abroad and clearley now must complete that

plan. >> reporter: finance ministers are expected to make scant progress. right now it is brinksmanship rather than compromise that is dominating. >> the professor of law and of the university of london joins us now. how big is the risk that the greek governmentville to limit withdrawals given what is happening at the moment? >> obviously there was a minor bank run not a major one. there is not panic in the streets. i have a look at athens and everything looks quite calm. there was a bit of a bank run

that was precipitated partly by a leak whether intentional or otherwise, we do not know, yesterday, by the member of the acb board saying monday the banks might be closed. if you say that on a thursday it looks like you are telling people go and take your money away. there is a problem there part of a wider negotiated strategy they are using against the government. on the whole the greek people are not hysterical. i don't condition expect anything to happen on monday. there is a summit meeting to make a more permanent solution. >> there are reports that discussions could begin on monday on how europe would deal with a greek default. that's got to be worrying for the greek government. >> sure, sure, of course. a greek default would be seriously worrying. as you just reported that will be a fault of 1.2 billion.

in other words a pidly little sum. can you imagine a government, a whole state and the people defaulting on such a small sum? of course if by the end of the month they do not have money to pay the imf because they have prioritized salaries and pensions of the people, a credit event will happen. if you default on the imf that is not a private creddor that is not a form of default leading to other steps that may lead to a wider sense of bankruptcy. >> the greek government inherited a bad situation but greece's cret tors ded creditors are saying they are making it worse by not reaching a compromise on a debt deal. >> sure, that is what major

media are reporting. partly this is a misinformation because what the greek government has been saying is that the austerity policies and imposed upon the previous greek government have led to a catastrophe and in economic terms the gdp ratio went up to 120% to 180%. it has not gone up, the gdp has gone by 26% 27% unemployment up to 4 million people below the poverty line. if you look at the economic or major economic factors you see that this program has failed. what the government is saying in view of the failure of the economic program and the huge

humanitarian cries that followed it -- crisis that followed, something has to give in order to start putting back some jobs, some new hope for the people. >> great to get your thiewts. thoughts. we will return you to our colleagues in london in just a few moments. but we want to break in to coverage to bring you the proceedings now just getting under way aircraft bond hearing are -- i bond hearing for 21-year-old dylann roof. we will hear from the judge and we will get to see and hear from dylann roof. >> today is june 19th 2015. charleston county bond court. i'm the chief magistrate.

this is the case of state versus dylann roof. mr. roof is charged with nine counts of murder and one count of possession of a weapon during the commissionave violent crime. ladies and gentlemen before i get into the hearing i would like to make a statement please. charleston is a very strong community. we have big hearts. we are a very loving community. and we are going to reach out to everyone, all victims and we will touch them. we have victims, nine of them. but we also have victims on the other side. there are victims on this young man's side of the family. nobody would have ever thrown them into the whirlwind of events they have been thrown into. we must find it in our heart at some point in time not only to

help those that are victims but to also help his family as well. when it's all done and said, they will have done the best job they can do. they are some of the finest our law enforcement are the fine effort in this state and will do their job honorably. i trust they will. with that being said we will move forward today with this hearing. mr. roof is charged with nine counts of murder and one count of possession of a weapon during the commission of the crime. represent being the state is scarlet wilson and representing the defendant is mr. ashlee pennington. does the defendant -- excuse me, does the defendant give me permission to conduct this

hearing via video hearing. >> yes, i have discussed that. he is aware and has agreed to that. >> thank you very much. mr. roof has counsel today. it will be mr. pennington is that correct? >> yes, your honor. >> thank you. mr. roof, you are charged with nine counts of murder and one count of a possession of a weapon during the commission of a violent crime. your first appearance court date is october 23rd, 2015 at 2:00 p.m. your second court date appearance will be february 5 2016 at 9:00 a.m. mr. roof you have the right to a preliminary hearing. this is a hearing to review the evidence that the state is using to establish probable cause to substantiate the charges they have brought against you today. i have some questions if i may with permission of counsel.

mr. roof, is your address 1,042 8 garners ferry road in east over south carolina? >> ysir. >> what is your age? >> 21. >> you're 21 years old. are you employed. >> no. >> you are unemployed at this time? >> ysir. >> thank you. detective burkehart. >> ysir. >> does the defendant have a criminal history. >> he does. >> what is it? >> two charges that i'm aware of i have a drug possession charge and trespassing. >> thank you very much. >> i would point out that the drug charge is not a disposition. >> it is pending at this time >> that is correct. >> thank you very much. so noted. solicitor wilson, do you have a statement to make before this

court today in regards to these charges. >> not at this time. >> do you have any statements to make mr. pennington? >> i have met with mr. roof and i think he understands the proceedings and understands that only a circuit court can set bond in murder cases. therefore we are prepared today to accept the no bond arrangement and appreciate the court's courteousy and i will gather all information and supply in due course. >> thank you. >> before we go into the bond process, i would like to ask are there any members or is there a representative of any of the family that would wish to make a statement before this court before i post or set the bond? i'll go through this. susie jackson, is there a representative of the family of susie jackson? no.

sondra singleton? there are. will you please stand? you have a right as the representative of the family to make a statement today before we set bond. would you like to do so? thank you very much. ethyl lance. would you like to make a statement in regards to this hearing concerning ethyl lance as a victim? would you like to come forward please? you are representing the family of ethyl lance is that correct? and you are whom? [inaudible] >> daughter. i'm listening and you can talk to me.

[inaudible] >> i will never talk to her ever again. i will never be able to hold her again. you hurt me. you hurt a lot of people. but i forgive you. >> thank you ma'am. i appreciate you being here. representative of the family of my rathompson. sir, would you like to make a statement before this court? please come forward.

your name? >> anthony thompson. >> mr. thompson. >> i would like him to know. >> speak up for me. >> saying the same thing that was just said. i forgive you and my family forgive you. but we would like to take this opportunity onue to take this opportunity to repent. repent confess. give your life to the one that is the most, christ. he can change it. can change your ways no matter what happened to you. and you will be okay. do that and you will be better off than you are right now. >> thank you sir.

your name? >> felishia sanders. >> thank you. >> we welcomed you wednesday night in our bible study with open arms. you have killed some of the most noobl [inaudible] people i know. every fiber in my body hurts and i will never be the same. he was my son but was my hero. as we said in bible study we enjoyed you but god may have mercy on you. >> thank you, ma'am.

a representative of daniel simmons. your name, ma'am? thank you for being here. your statement please? >> although my grandfather -- this is proof everyone's plea for your soul is proof that they they lived and loved and their legacy is to live in love. hate won't win. and i just want to thank the court for making sure that hate doesn't win. >> thank you ma'am for being here. cynthia herd, a representative

of the family. thank you very much and thank you for being here today sir. your name please, ma'am? thank you for being here. >> i thank you for not allowing hate to wib. i'm a work in progress and i acknowledge that i am very angry but one thing in our family is she taught me that we are the family that love built.

we have no room for hate. i pray god on your soul and i thank god that i will be around when your judgment day comes with him. may god bless you. >> thank you ma'am. is a representative of the family here today? is there anything you wish to tell the court? >> not at this time, your honor. >> anything you wish to tell the court? >> no, sir your honor. i want to make it clear for those who aren't fam with our process you don't have authority to set bond on the murder charges and that's why you aren't adressing those. we have the bond for the one firemans charge.

regardless of what bond you set the defendant will remain in custody. >> , yes ma'am. on the nine counts of murder i do not have the authority to set bond on these charges. on the count, one count of possession with a weapon during the commission of the crime a violent crime i'm setting your understand bo, young man at 1 million. is there anything else to come before this court in regards to this case? we stand concluded in this hearing. thank you. >> thank you bailiff. >> all right some pretty extraordinary moments there in that courtroom in charleston, south carolina.

robert is here on the phone joining us from his hometown of lexington, south carolina. and robert, extraordinary what we heard in that courtroom. expressions from family members of victims on several occasions asking that god would have mercy on dylann roof's soul. your take aways initially after hearing what just unfolded. he is not going anywhere, he is being held on 1 million bond on one peculiar particular count. there is another court that will set bond on those matters. your thoughts? >> we are right in front of the address that the judge spoke of just moments ago in east over, south carolina at his known

address. and we had the live stream feed from inside the court and able to watch what occurred and i'm struck by the lack of emotion from the 21-year-old. >> yeah. >> i'm struck by the unbelievable strength of the families of the victims. amazing strength from those people. and the worlds they said should be an inspiration i would say to all of juice i us. >> i would agree with you yes. >> we went before the hearing went and knocked on the door of the neighbor next to the address in east over, south carolina. that woman did not want to speak to us. she was kind but did not want to speakitous. speak to us. we went across the store to a small convenience shop that it is alleged the suspect would go into and buy grocery etc. the woman who works there said yeah

he was a very quiet person, saw him three, four weeks ago and never had any trouble. clearly the people here know exactly who he is and you know, just a remarkable situation. i also had a moment to speak with the father of the suspect earlier today ben roof, his foorgt. his father. he did not want to give a statement and did not want to talk to any journalist at that point. we did get him on the phone and he sounded obviously concerned as anyone would be. we heard the judge even say that it wasn't just the victims and the families of the victims this young man has hurt, but he hurt his entire family. i think it's important to note that those people are going through their own personal hell as well. >> i hear that and i take that

and i do want a little more clarity and understanding on the judge's comments. i understand the family of this young man but this expression of force -- i'm going to describe it as anger from the judge. i'm trying to understand it a little better and trying to understand the appropriateness of that response. is it your understanding that he was essentially asking for a bit of space for the family of dylann roof? >> i think that's probably his intention. of course, absolutely. and we don't know the details and the specific dynamics of his family and the way they were, where they all lived who was married to whom, what relationships were. we just don't really know all that. there is so much speculation out there. we do know a few things that

dylann roof never graduated from high school. he went to several schools. he had issues with drugs according to police reports. as far as the relationships go with the family, it's unclear at this point. i take your point. i think the -- >> i get that, robert. one of the questions we are going to have in the days ahead is about this young man's upbringing. we get he is 21 and unemployed and a bit of a criminal history trespassing, a drug charge still pending. i think there is going to be a question as to how this young man was raised. and what kind of guidance he received from those closest to him, his family member, ben roof, his father, his mother. those are questions that are going to be asked and i'm just a little -- i was a little pit put

off frankly the energy, the force with which the judge spoke about these issues. it seemed and the best i can make of it is he was asking for a bit of space for the family. he seemed to be defending the family and law enforcement. i'm not aware law enforcement in south carolina has come up for any criticism in the way they have handled this this case. i have questions. i certainly have questions. robert anything else you want to add to your view on what you have heard so far today and the reporting you are working on for later on our newscasts. >> except for the fact i would fully agree with what you just said. clearly the dynamic of the family and the way this kid was raised should be looked at so that something like this never happens again. because it is obviously

a glaring scenario we need to know more about. absolutely that needs to come out. and i think it will. i think it will. this is a troubled person with so much hate, clearly racist. a disgusting one at that and we need to know more about who he is and who his family is. >> appreciate it robert. i want to bring in our al jazeera producer david dog dog douglas. he was in during the hearing. there was the statement from the judgment. we can deal with that whenever you want to deal with it. i want your impression of what the judge had to say before the hearing got under way. i suppose i would like to start with what you saw from dylann roof. i'm not particularly surprised he appeared emotionless. but i want to hear your thoughts, reflections from being

in the courtroom to the powerful statements from families of the victims. >> well, tony, we watched as you did via video appearance. we were not allowed in that room where the families were. we were watching on the television monitor where we could not see the families. as you said he was absolutely emotionless and stood there as if it were any other day. told the judge he was unemon unemployed. a few things asked of him but nothing more. his diagram was not someone who -- demeanor is not common who came across in any way that they were aware of the pain they had caused. he had told his attorney mr. pennington as he told us and the judge his client understands the procedure and knows how this will go forward and that he is prepareed to accept a no bond arrangement. for those who don't understand in south carolina at this level

the judge cannot set bond on any kind of murder charge. the bond was only set on the possession of the fireman possession on the fire exparm that was set at 1 million. >> are you privy to this back and forth going on about something tantamount to a confession from dylann roof? what do you understand in that regard? >> we have heard the reports and stories you have heard. the people we have been able to talk to on al jazeera and our resources we have not heard that directly from any law enforcement sources. when i spoke to a couple of people this morning in local law enforcement they said that absolutely did not come from us. at this point the investigation continues but as a police department, as an investigative agency we have made our statement and that will be that. it is interesting to note the

amount of time between this appearance today in court this bofned hearing bond hashing hearing and the first hearing. it's quite a bit of time. >> yes yes. >> it has been abuilt in to allow the evidence to be fully gathered and come back on october 23rd and provide a little more information. >> october 23rd. the first court appearance. the first thing can we will look into in our reporting is that an unusual length of time between the bond hearing and the first appearance. that's a question out there. i know you and your team will be on it. i am wondering what your sense was of the statements from the family members of the victims and how almost to a person we heard i forgive you.

>> if you will forgive me for a second, i have been in court for a lot of cases. some seemingly small cases over a robbery charge. >> sure. >> to murder charges and things as we are dealing with today. what i was not prepared for knowing there would be an opportunity for members of the family to speak was what you speak of the level of foregiveness. i think these people would say godliness of their own spirit and belief they would turn to this man and look him in the eye as best they could you through the television screen. i think he could only see the magistrate, the judge. to talk to him the way they did to hear "i forgive you", let god forgive you over and over again was surprising to me. and the advice given to mr. roof

to bring christ into your heart he can change you no matter what the out come may be and he will make you better off. a statement made by the family member -- forgive me, the daughter who spoke, and she said we welcomed you wednesday night in our bible study with open arms. every fiber in my body hurts and i will never be the same. as i said in bible study we enjoyed you but may god have mercy on you. >> that was really powerful stuff. look, i'm going to personalize it a bit too. what a strong statement from this church community. the church family at emanuel ame. a strong statement from african/americans in the face of horrific tragedy.

and the face of hate. can't wait to see the reporting that you are working on with your team there in south carolina later on today on our programs. david douglas for us. he was in a room close to the courtroom as the bond hearing played out. do we have the sound from the judge cued up? i want i to hear the comments from the judge at the beginning of the bond hearing. and i'll take up a couple of points from the judge's opening statements with our legal contributor. let's play that. joo today is june nanth 2015. charltton county bond court. i am judge james gosnel the chief magistrate. this is the case of state versus dylann roof. mr. roof is chargeed with nine counts of murder and one count of possession of a weaponnure

doing the commission of a violent crime. ladies and gentlemen before i get into the hearing i would like to make a statement please. charleston is a very strong community. we have big hearts. we are a very loving community. and we are going to reach out to everyone, all victims and we will touch them. we have victims, nine of them. but we also have victims on the other side. there are victims on this young man's side of the family. nobody would have ever thrown them into the whirlwind of events they have been thrown into. we must find it in our heart at some point in time not tonal help those that are victim, but to help his family as well. when it's all done and said, scarlet wilson and ashley

pennington will have done the best job they can do. they are some of the finest. our law enforcement are the finest in this state and they will do their job honorably. i trust they will. with that being said we will move forward today with this hearing. >> all right let's bring in al jazeera america's contributor. i don't get this statement. who is he scolding? >> not only do i not get the statement, i don't understand his need to empathize with the defendant's family. that is anun an unusual statement from a judge. have someone charged with nine counts of murder and one count of illegal possession and use of a firearm and the judge is

talking about the hurt and pain of his family. >> if you wouldn't mind, i want you to stay on the line because i have a guest standing by i think you want to hear from as well. i don't get that statement. all right edward bryant is the profit north charleston chapter of the naacp. good to talk to you. i have so many questions and thoughts i want to run by you. first of all let's start with what was amazing in this bond hearing today. and it was the strength, the composure the godliness faith on display of the families of some of the victims. what are your thoughts on what you saw and what you heard trance pyre in that courtroom? >> i felt it was very odd for

the judge at the beginning of his testimony to be giving a cheerleading process for the prosecutor prosecutor ashlee pennington and scarlet wilson. secondly the judge indicated particularly things not necessarily in line with the things that go into bond hearings. >> i don't know what that means. what does that mean, edward? >> it simply means i never heard a judge give any cheerleading remarks for the prosecution and then for the defense at the beginning of a bond hearing.

>> i wanted to go in a different direction but since vutaken us here, let's stay here. i don't quite understand that either. i am not clear on the appropriateness of that kind of a statement. have you heard anything like that before? he seemed to be scolding any number of people. what was that? >> i am not exactly sure that represented. whether or not it was reaching over to another process or not. i am not exactly sure about that. >> okay. any other thoughts that you want to share can us about this process -- did we lose him on the phone? he's there. any thoughts you want to share with us. i want to get back to our legal analyst, but i want to hear you out. anything you want to say about this bond appearance today and how the community continues to respond to the events of

wednesday. >> i thought the judge gave the family members an opportunity to respond to what was about to take place and at the same time they have not had one funeral or they have not buried one of the persons, so they are still grieving. one thing i would like to highlight is that the fact that that is a very religious presentation before a bond hearing court. >> i appreciate it, thank you for your time. are you still on the line with us? >> i am. i wanted to respond to your question about the appropriateness of the statement. i would say it was inappropriate. a bond hearing is to determine if there are grounds upon which a bond should be set for a defendant. you are looking at whether or

not this individual is a flight risk and if they are a harm to the community and if the charges that have been filed against them are even bondable and he made statements later correctly that south carolina because their murder charges that bond is inappropriate and set the 1 million bond for the gun charge. all of those statements admonishing the community to not just feel empathy for the victims' family, but the family of the defendants defendant is inappropriate for a judge. ime not certain what he was attempting to do or. for many watching this and concerned about how this is being played out and how the media is characterizing this shooter, again you have to question, you know, if this were an african/american male who was charged with such heinous

hateful racist acts would there be a plea to feel empathy for his family. >> let me mention the ninth circuit solicitor solicitor mentioned by the judge scarlet wilson will make remarks soon. we will try to stay for that. there are questions for this family. there are questions for ben roof, who is dylann roof's father. there are questions as to where this idology that is present in this young man's life where it took hold. there are questions about his upbringing in the household. 21 years old unemployed, a drug charge still pending. i am fair to say here there are real questions that need to be asked about this family and it seems a bit inappropriate for

that kind of defense to be offered up by this judge at this particular moment. >> absolutely. not only are there questions about the upbringing, questions about the gun the purchase of the gun whether the -- we are hearing conflicting stories that the father bought the gun for his son. we are hearing money was given to his son to purchase a gun. we are also hearing that this young man had a history of making racist comments and making comments that would be suggestive of this kind of act. there was no intervention from this family. before we go off and start applauding this family or asking the community to have sympathy, we mede need more informations. the family may be more involved. >> what you are suggesting is a question we just don't know the answer to at this point whether or not there is a criminal conspiracy connected to this. >> we don't finish there is

a criminal conspiracy or liability to this family because of any involvement they may have had with these murders. it is too premature and it is not the judge's place. he is there to make one determination and one determination only. are these charges for which bond can be set sit appropriate to set bond? that is it plain and simple. it's not his job to opine beyond the parameters of setting bond. >> tell me what you are used to. these bond hearings, you know, they are rote. they run through the charge, maybe, maybe not. an opportunity for the defense to say something maybe maybe not. the the attorney may speak for the defendant and they are over in maybe two minutes. >> they are proforma.

usually non-descriptive non-eventful hearings because again, making one simple determination: is this person cape believe capable of having a bond set on the charges made. you run through the charges. murder, we can eliminate that quickly in south carolina. there is no bond set for murder. the gun charge, this is the amount, set the amount. do you want to are heard? do you have a statement to make? prosecutors do you have a statement? that's it. it is not the opportunity and you don't get up and speak in the bond hearing some are handling 10, 20, 30 a day. >> right right. >> their calendars are stacked with these hearings and running through them quickly. you have to ask was this judge doing this grand standing for the cameras because he knows this is a high profile case? getting a lot of media attention? is he doing it because he is trying to cause the community to

think differently about this family? obviously he has an agenda. all those argument, when i think about a courtroom and you have judges and the lawyers it's the lawyers who are typically making the percasive statement and the -- persuasive statement and the judge is an arbitor. he is not there to side with one side or the other. he is there to determine what the facts are and apply the law to those facts. >> if you are available i would like to talk to you on our program later today. >> see you then. thank you tone gee extraordinary events in the courtroom today. the bond hearing for 21-year-old dylann roof. we will have so much more. a lot to discuss on this on our program at 7:00 and throughout the evening. you will hear more of this from our al jazeera coverage throughout the day here.

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