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emmy award winning investigative series... chaising bail only on al jazeera america >> this is aljazeera america. live from new york city. i'm tony harris. released again texas officials unveil a different quality version of a dash cam video showing sandra bland's arrest. hate crime. the suspected gunman in the charleston church attack. will he face the death penalty?
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>> and we begin with a new version of the dramatic dash cam video of sandra bland. she was found dead in her cell three days after an altercation during a traffic stop earlier this month. speculation of a cover-up. the officials wednesday denied that the tape had been intentionally doctored and released a clean copy today. and more importantly, what is on that tape and how the situation escalated so quickly? take a look and listen. >> would you find putting out your cigarette, please? >> i'm in my car i don't have to put out my cigarette. >> you can step on out now. >> i don't want to step out. >> step on out of the car. step out of the car. i will write you up.
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get out now! get out of the car! >> for a failure to signal. you're doing all of this for failure to signal? >> let's take this to court yep, for failure to signal. >> get off the phone. get off the phone. >> i have a right. this is my property. >> put your phone down. >> sir. >> put your phone down, right now. >> put your phone down. >> i will light you up. kristen is in texas tonight with more on this, and tristen i understand that you had an opportunity to speak to one of sandra bland's friends and what did that friend have to say to you? >> we spoke with brandy, one of sandra's sorority sisters and she said that watching that made her angry and they might have been able to deescalate that situation if emotions hadn't taken over.
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she said that in 2014, sandra teamed suicide by taking pills. when she found out she was pregnant she lost the baby, but this was part of a routine questioning session. >> and tristen, one more for you. that's new information from the police report. okay. can you get a chance to get any other reaction to the dash cam video today? >> we did. we spoke with a family from humboldt texas, it's about a one-hour drive interest here. they were bringing their daughter to orientation, and they watched part of the dash cam video and said that the situation could have been handled differently by both the officer and sandra bland. but the officer was trained to deescalate situations like this and he should have done his job. >> all right kristen. in texas and darren is a retired lieutenant. and he joins me here on the
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set. and darren, what's your reaction to this video? i've got thoughts, and i guess i'll sort of ask the questions at this moment in time. what's your reaction? >> i think that this officer escalated a situation that could have ended with mrs. bland leaving with a warning or worst case, summons. >> police officers have been task as the professionals in these types of circumstances. when we look at what ignited this the culmination of him telling her -- the officer asking her to put out the cigarette. >> put out the cigarette. >> and her refusal sparked the officer's statement i'm going to arrest you and pull her out of the automobile. >> why? can you help me with an answer to the why question? why did that escalate?
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that's supposed to be a routine traffic stop and i believe at the head of the tape, we see this officer at the conclusion of another pretty routine traffic stop and then we get this. so why did this situation escalate and why wasn't he playing the role that you have described to us? >> the officer -- generally speaking, most officers are comfortable being in a position of control. they're used to being in control. and so when mrs. bland refused the order to extinguish the cigarette, the officer was frazzled and that's when he went into -- >> wait a minute, you're not paying attention to me, you clearly don't respect my authority in this situation. >> that's exactly how he looked at it, and this ultimately could create a combustible situation, which led to him having her exit the car and placing her under arrest.
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>> you are questioning me, you are disrespecting me. >> once again, the officer needs to be the professional in these types of circumstances focused on deescalating the situation. >> i don't know if that's the case, but i'm trying to figure it out and figure out how it escalates. if you are the supervisor and you're talking to the officer in an after-action situation what do you say? >> if a supervisor was seep like this, i'm going to be very upset with the officer, and the first thing is one i need you to act as a professional. escalating situations like this don't work for,, and is it sets a bad example for police officers trying to do their job. this officer in no way shape or form, conducted police his police tactics were very much flawed here. >> you have to put me on the other side of this, and just for a moment here, what is this officer -- we have been trying to get at that, so i'll ask it directly. what is this officer in your
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estimation thinking as the woman is refusing a direct request to put out the cigarette. you're an officer, and i'm leaning on your experience, and what is this officer thinking? >> it's hard to say what he was thinking but officers are generally comfortable and used to being in control. and i'll give you two sides of this. let's say that this was a genuine arrest situation, where the officer is looking to arrest this lady for an assault. >> i have probable cause or i've run your plates. >> great example. a cigarette in that instance can be deemed as a weapon. and the officer would say i need you to put the cigarette out because i'm arresting you but in this case, it was merely the officer asking you to extinguish it because of a traffic violation? >> i will light you up. i know the whole taser thing and it's not clear whether or
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not the officer -- and he seems to admit in the conversation, back to maybe it was dispatch or at the time, that he put the taser away in this exchange. if a taser is introduced into the situation, how do you explain that? >> it's very difficult. i looked at this video several times. the last time i looked at this video, i happened to see a taser in his left hand. what happens his body is guarding the pox where the taser is located. this is not an instance that required a taser to be revealed. you tell me, i cannot see it being used in this circumstance, and it should have been handled as look, license, registration, and she even stated, look, i'll give you my i.d. and it would have been the end of it, for an improper lane change. >> based on what you witnessed here, the review of the video should she have been arrested?
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>> she shouldn't have been arrested. >> okay, i take your considered opinion. darren is a reported nypd officer. appreciate your time. for the second time since the death of michael brown nearly a year ago the city of ferguson missouri, has hired a new police chief. andre anderson is taking a six month leave of absence from his current job to lead the ferguson police force, and he begins tomorrow. >> the city is going from one interim police chief to another. and they couldn't say how many people were considered for this position, but i can tell you that the current interim city manager is from glendale, arizona and andre anderson recently workeds agency a commander over seeing 80 detectives in the criminal investigation. he has 20 years of law enforcement and the mayor said today that it's a bonus that he
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is also a black man. now, anderson said that he grew up in a community in southwest philadelphia that has similar demographics as ferguson, so he says that he can relate to the community. but many of the officers are not from ferguson. he says that he's the right person to do this job and he would like to be considered for the long-term chief position, but right now he's only going to be here for a six-month basis. his recommendations to follow from the department of justice and awareness training and really focus on community policing, which was from the department where he was coming. one other thing the mayor says that the department of justice had nothing to do with replacing one interim chief with another interim chief. though i was here a few weeks ago, i talked to the other, and the department of justice doesn't think that it can continue on with the structure that we have. >> the suspected charlston
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church shooter, dylann roof, is inbeing indicted on charges. charleston churchand mike, tell us more about the charges please. >> loretta lynch the attorney general, unveiling hate crime charges against dylann roof, accused of killing nine in south carolina. roof had been plotting it for months, and his aim revenge against perceived injustices in roof's mind by african-americans in this country, and he chose the historic church there the mother emanuel church to get maximum impact to chief those goals. among the charges brought by lynch today the federal hate crime statutes, using a
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dangerous weapon to cause bodily injury on race or color use of force to obstruct the exercise of religious beliefs and using a firearm in residentially motivated murders. again, lynch said that race was an essential element in his motivation when he carried out these attacks, plotting them for several months, tony. >> mike, is the death penalty in play here. >> it is in play. lynch says up to life or the death penalty is in play, and tony, as you notedded, there's a parallel investigation going on at the state level. and what lynch has to consider, and ultimately, this will be her decision on whether or not to seek the death penalty number one the progress of the state investigation, they don't want to interfere with that, and they also consult with the families of the victims. earlier today, loretta lynch appeared at the department of justice to announce the indictment. >> we believe that the evidence will support the allegation
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that roof chose mother emanuel because it was an old church, historic church and it was historically significant as one of the oldest african-american churches, not just in south carolina but in the nation. >> now there's no hate crime legislation, no statute on the state level, so this so this is a unique charge brought by loretta lynch and the department of justice. she asked if it was a form of domestic terrorism carried out and she calls this the original arc typical domestic terror. >> the obama administration is wrapping up efforts to sell the iran nuclear deal to congress. john kerry met with lawmakers and president obama has vowed to veto any attempt to block the deal.
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but he met saudi king to ease concerns over the deal. >> this is not a one-way relationship but a two-way relationship. and we talked when a number of things and i enumerated the joint capabilities that we have jointly developed and jointy prepared for decades. air forces, cyber forces, missile forces and so forth. >> and carter met with jordan's military leaders earlier in the day. president obama has been under pressure to secure the release of americans held anywhere an, and at least three are officially being deigned and a fourth is missing. it has now been a year since one of those americans washington post reporter, jason, was arrested. and lisa stark is live in washington. lisa, what efforts are underway to free jason? >> well, tony, there arer
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certainly diplomatic efforts. there's an online petition, and more than 4,000 people have signed that. and his family has made public pleas, and today the washington post formally went to the united nations and they have a working group on detention, and they are arguing that his detention violates international law and espionage. we asked the executive director if there's any chance if iran will actually follow any u.n. dick pate that he is being held against the law. >> we do not know what they will do. but we know this is anview that's available to us, and we plan to pursue the course because it's one more thing that we can do on jason's behalf. the conscience of the iranian government. and we hope that they have a conscience, and they release an
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innocent man. >> he said that rezion has been detained and. >> how did the negotiations over the iranian nuclear agreement affect the effort to free rezaian and the other americans? >> well, as you know, tony, the administration argued that they should not be linked and there should not be a deal unless there was an agreement to free the americans. and i spoke to rezaian's brother, and he agreed that they were separate negotiations, but he did say that the effort to free his brother was hampered by the nuclear negotiations. >> i think over the past year,
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it has complicated it a lot. and changed the way that the states -- the stakes are obviously different many but i think now just pen and paper and we know what the terms are. and that excuse is over. >> that excuse is over, and rezaian says that it's linked and he says this will be an opportunity to negotiate with iran to get his brother and hopefully the other americans released. the others being held are u.s. more than, ran ali and sahid amdini. he's a christian who was arrested for trying to spread his faith. and then a fourth american, robert levinson, he was on a cia mission when he was disappeared in iran. and there's some indication that he is being held in prison, but the iranian government says that they do not know his whereabouts. those americans are all front
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and center says the state department to try to get them released. >> lisa stark in washington. protesters have packed time square in new york city this evening to announce the iran deal. and they are urging congress to vote against the agreement. >> reporter: here in time square, it's very loud and raucous, and the organizers say that there are as many as 10,000 people here, packed up from 42nd street to 40th two blocks, 10,000 people along both sides. as you can hear, there are speakers chaptering to kill this deal, that it's bad for america, the deal is bad especially for israel, because a number of conservative and jewish personalities across the country. protest is organized by the jewish response coalition, and some of the others, cia
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director, james woolsey, he said that the only two worse in the u.s. are use of force or be surrender. we heard the holocaust quotes, never again, being chanted here and calling obama a traitor. and it will go on for another hour or so. it seems to be growing [ unintelligible ] here in time square. >> all right paul there from time square, and the white house said that it's in the final stables of drafting a plan to close down the prison at guantanamo bay. president obama had promised to do so from his first official day in office in 2008. but his administration says that his efforts have been blocked by congress. >> we need to continue to responsibly transfer to foreign
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countries those detainees who have been slate forward transfer, and the second thing detainees who can be charged in the system. >> 106 detainees are still there, down from 1100 when the prison was opened by george w. bush in 2002. a cheese activist is free to travel again. his passport was returned to him after charges of tax evasion. his first trip to be to germany to visit his son >> reporter: into. >> it's a big day for workers in new york city, trying to get a raise. their latest step in the push for $15 an hour, and schools discipline and out of trouble.
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>> royal dutch shell got the
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green light today to start exploratory drilling off of the coast of alaska. the obama administration issued two permits for oil drilling. and shell could begin work within days, but will only be able to drill one well at a time. this is a big loss for environmentists who wanted to stop shell from drilling. it could cause harm to the ecosystem. workers across new york state may soon be making $15 an hour. wage increase was improved by officials today and it would affect restaurants at 30 or more locations. it has led to gradual increases in other cities, but has its roots in new york. >> a couple hundred fast food workers gathered here in new york city to celebrate their very happy mood. and why wouldn't they be? federal wage is currently $7.25
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an hour, and that's usually what cooks and cashiers at fast food restaurants make. some of the lowest paid workers anywhere in america, and they say that that salary is simply not enough, and they're living what they call fast food poverty. >> we have to pay rent, and sometimes i can't even make it. i don't have enough money for transportation. >> it's good for starting workers, but it's important that the average worker in the city gets a raise and it's just not enough money to live on the current wage. it's expensive especially with a family to support. >> fast food franchise owners have been against the proposal. they say that it will increase their costs which will be passed onto consumers but even with that, it's a huge victory for this movement. fast food workers have been on the forefront to increase the minimum wage, protesting and even walking off their jobs to
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bring attention to the cause. but it has been a grassroots movement that started here in new york. it has gotten attention as well. presidential candidate, bernie sanders, he's running against hilliary clinton, and he proposed lifting the federal wage in the u.s. be nationally, $15 an hour for all jobs, not just for fast food workers. it's unlikely that that will happen any time soon, but at least in new york, workers have been waiting for this increase for a long time. and maybe they will be getting at least one step closer. they will have to wait while according to the prosers and it won't go into effect until 2018. >> membership wage in california, 15 dollars and janet napolitano said that it's the right thing to do.
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it will be phased in over three years. >> planned parenthood is often called the center for medical progress. they claim that they have videos of officials discussing selling tissue from aborted fetuses, and planned parenthood denies it. >> they -- >> posing as employees of a medical tissue procurement company, activists of an anti-abortion group called the center for medical progress, have been releasing secret records of planned parenthood employees. it describes itself as a non-profit group of journalists, and they claim that planned parenthood is profiting from the sale of fetal tissue. [ unintelligible ] [ unintelligible ].
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>> donating fetal tissue is illegal in the u.s., and selling tissue is not. planned parenthood denies that it's not doing anything illegal. >> i want to be really clear. the allegation that planned parenthood profits in any way from tissue donation is not true. >> the president of planned parenthood says that the video misrepresents what her organization is trying to do. >> they used secretly recorded, heavily edited videos to make outrageous claims. >> though planned parenthood does admit that some of the language in the videos is alarming. [ unintelligible ]. >> in the video one of our staff members speaks in a way that does not reflect our compassion. this is unacceptable and i personally apologize for the staff member's tone and statements. >> reacting to the videos, rand
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paul introduced an amendment to cut off support for planned parenthood, though none of the money goes to fund abortions. senate minority leader, harry reid told reporters that these politically motivated videos raise questions but nothing that i've seen say that they have violated federal law. center for medical progress did not return our calls and the founder of the group confirmed to the new york times there's enough footage to release a new video each week for the next several months. >> erica pitzi, thank you. and while they said that the money is nominal and it goes to cover facilities. coming up, the trump effect. how the billionaire-turned presidential candidate has gotten so much popularity with his controversial comments.
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and police, what we're learning from the latest incident.
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>> the texas department of public safety has issued a new version of the dash cam video that shows the arrest of sandra bland who was found dead in her jail cell. first version featured several glitches and now the newly released video does not have repeated shots and it's about 3 minutes shorter but it's the way that the texas officer hammed the traffic it stop has come under question. >> don't touch me, i'm not under arrest. >> you are under arrest. >> for what? >> get out of the car. get out of the car now. >> why am i being apprehended. >> i said get out of the car. >> why am i being apprehended. you opened my car door, and you're going to drag me out of my own car.
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>> get out of the car i will light you up. >> wow. this for failure to signal, let's take this to court. >> glen martin is the founder of just leadership usa which focuses on prisons and the criminal justice system in america. and glen, good to see you again. what's your reaction? >> same story new players. it's unfortunate. you watch this officer this trained police officer essentially go from zero to 100 like this. because she wouldn't put out a cigarette. and arguably, he said he was going to give her a warning in the beginning. as a trained police officer, he should be the one thinking about deescalating the situation, even if the person who got pulled over is in a bad mood and not having a good day. >> in this incident, where does it find its place in the continuum of the discussion
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that we're having on the policing of minorities in this country? >> we're having a national discussion about police legitimacy, and clearly, there was no justice here, he didn't tell her what he was doing and he went into a rain himself arguably, and it fits into the narrative of how people of color and poor people have been saying for years of how law enforcement games them. and now we're seeing it. up close. and the biggest concern is that people get desensitized to it. >> we had a conversation about this. and explain your thinking on that. >> it's unfortunate. for decades if not for centuries, people of color have been talking about this sort of engagement and now we're seeing it up close. we're seeing it over and over, and where is the outrage? not just the outrage from the general public, but where's the good police officer to look at and say, i don't want to be painted with that brush.
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it's not right. >> we talked about this. i can imagine this police officer, i don't know what it says about me, but i can imagine this police officer saying to his supervisor, why am i being put on desk duty. did you see this video? did you hear me talking about this? why am i the one who is wrong here? >> i wouldn't be surprised if he was saying that, and i'll tell you why. because these are paramilitary organizes, and they they have a culture that's embedded and ingrained and across the country. doesn't matter the color of the skin of a police officer. and i would argue if we're spending too much time seeing if the individual officer is a racist because systemically it's racist. when you go from zero to 100 so quickly, he has a narrative in his head about people of color that allows him to move so quickly from calm to being
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enrained >>enrain -- enraged >> so the entire system, what leads you to that conclusion? >> my father was a police officer, and my brother was a correctional officer, and now he's a u.s.er marshal. and what i know is this, the institutions change long before people change institutions. they end up in law enforcement. and they have a dangerous job and the question is, are they going to push back against the culture of the institution or do the job and go home at the end of the day. they become part of the institution themselves and part of the culture unfortunately. >> and it doesn't matter if the officer is hispanic or black. does it? >> i think it's important people need to be held responsible for their behavior, i'm not saying if they are engaging in racism on the job but we lose sight of it when we
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only focus on the individual. we are seeing these cases over and over, becoming desensitized to t. or spend so much time focusing on the one cop the bad apple. >> but we are so used to falling into he's bromides where we say, there are great cops out there and you can't unindict the whole lot with the sins of the one officer and you take a different view of this? >> i take a different view because number one, we have seen so many incidents of this, and where do we get to the point where we say, it's not a bad apple but a bad orchard. and people become part of that institution and culture. >> i got nothing else for you glen, thank you for coming in. glenn martin, focus leadership usa. officials are saying that
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last week's shooting in chattanooga could have been much worse. the marines killed by the gunman, mohammod youssuf abdulazee diverted him from carrying out a much larger scale attack. it's "too early" to tell if the gunman had been radicalized beforehand and if he acted alone. >> it's very important to not jump to conclusions about what happened. so i would ask that you please be responsible when talking about the case. let us gather the facts we need in order to honor our hero's ultimate sacrifice. >> the agent said that two service members tried to provide cover and assist during the attack, and the chattanooga police department finally intervened killing the gunman. educators gathered today to rethink discipline, in school districts across the country
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black students are more likely to be suspended or expelled, and often the actions are taken for non-violent offenses, such as cutting the class or dealing with teachers. >> when we continue with the status quo the outcomes are the same. in restrictive places, they never get less restrictive, and increasing in juvenile justice and we all know the consequences of that. >> at the conference, they highlighted school districts that have tried to curb the use of harsh discipline, and los angeles, for example no longer ex spells students. in baltimore where do you stand on the idea of reduce and go in many cases eliminating suspensions for what are
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considered slight infracks? >> i think that it makes a lot of sense and its way pastime that we're looking at doing this. the prison school pipeline is real. and i was glad to say that they're committing themselves to fewer out of school suspensions. >> there was a report out that said that -- the school to prison pipeline with data connected. and where do you begin to tackle this issue? some say that what they're working on now in rethinking discipline in schools is addressing 400 years of disciplinary disparities. where do you begin to take on something that has been going on so long. >> i think that it has to begin at multiple levels, and so there have to be other policies
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in place and there has to be training for educators to think about how they respond to situations differently. but the teachers themselves have to be talking about restorative justice and that trains has to be ongoing. i was a classroom teacher myself for several years before i became a professor, and i know that sometimes you can get into a situation with a student where you're really angry about what has transpired in the splashing at that moment, you can't be here in this space. there has to be a way with educators around, how do you diffuse the situation and allow that child to be in school so that learning can continue. educators are supposed to be trained professionals, much like police officers are supposed to be. and so it's the responsibility of those who set the education policy to be the bigger people to say how do i diffuse the situation with the child. because that's the goal of the schools, not to shut people out
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because they don't acquiesce to every demand >> so on the panel today on this whole rethinking discipline, was explaining that maybe the approach, and the best way to explain this concept is by not asking what's wrong with you, it's more about asking what happened to you. what is restorative justice in and explain it's focus on intervention, rather than punish many. punishment. >> restorative justice is implemented in a lot of different ways and in several different places, but it's the idea of saying, let me take a minute before i decide, i'm going to write this child up, and instead of theming removed from school, as the teacher let me say what really transpired in this situation and once i know what transpired, i need to know what happened and why this student
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responded in this way, and once we know why, we can address the why. and there should be a component where the student or the students make some sort of amends with the community that was offended, so if there was a fight in the classroom, there should be some time where the child comes back to the class and says, i'm really sorry that i disturbed our time of learning. if there was a teacher i'm not going to say assaulted because of something else, but a teacher who was disrespected, here's how i was feeling --. >> that's where i need to jump in. here's how i was feeling. my feelings. so i log into this white house event today. and i'm hearing folks talking about feelings, and i'm hearing terms like restorative justice and we're talking about rethinking discipline, and for a minute, the old man in me pops up and says, wait a minute here are the rules you
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go to school early, and you shut up and you stay up, and if you can't stay up, catch up, and if you act up, the teacher is the law in that classroom and if you don't obey, you're out of here. why am i being told now that the old school approach needs to change? >> so actually, the scenario you described sounds like to me what i watched in the arrest video of sandra bland in texas and that's why that approach is not appropriate. we're all human and we all have feelings, and children are allowed to have feelings too. so if they don't like that they're being repremanded, it's okay to say that i don't agree with this. you don't have to like it, but children want to be approached like they're human and it's time that we rethink these 400 years that we're calculated how we approach children in schools. it's getting more and more
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people in prison and in the case of the police officer in texas, it got this young woman killed. >> i don't know if i necessarily agree with the nexus, but i know why you went there. she's in baltimore. and in the republican race for president, donald trump is still ahead in the polls despite his controversial remarks over john mccain's record as a prisoner of war. >> then i watch lindsey graham on television. >> the fight over donald trump's controversial approach is escalating. this week in south carolina, the republican candidate taunted senator lindsay graham's nomination. >> here's a guy in the private sector, he couldn't get a job. >> graham has repeatedly criticized trump. and on tuesday senator grahammed off this. >> i don't care if he drops out. stay in the race, but just stop
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being a jackass. >> a few hours later trump gave out graham's cellphone number. >> 202 -- >> then trump attacked other republican rivals, including texas governor, rick perry who on twitter has called trump a cancer. >> i see rick perry the other day, and he's doing very poorly in the polls he put glasses on so people will think he's smart. and it just doesn't work. >> the latest fight stems from the remarks that trump made over the weekend when he seemed at first to question senator john mccain's status as a war hero. >> he's a war hero because he was captured. i like people who weren't captured, i hate to tell you. >> there's nothing funny about the hate he's spewing at immigrants and their families, and now the insults he's directed at a genuine war hero,
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senator john mccain. >> but attacking illegal immigration is music to the ears of many conservatives, and insulting john mccain can resonate as well. many voters on the right consider the arizona senator too moderate. and others have bought into the lines about mccain's pow record spread in the primary against george w. bush 15 years ago in south carolina. and last week, mccain started the new fight with trump by using an anti-immigration rally in phoenix to "fire up the crazies. >> very insulted in phoenix the other day. it was not good. >> despite the predictions of the mainstream media trump's power punches may boost his
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poll numbers now not diminish them. and republican voters suggest that trump has opened up a double-digit lead over his nearest rivals, scott walker and former florida governor, jeb bush, and trump is using the nationwide focus on his controversial remarks on senator mccain to align himself with veterans concerns. >> the veterans administration is a scandal and it's corrupt. and what's going on is a disgrace. >> deedee sorvino. >> if he is able to get in on this one i think he's going to be our next nominee, he's that good. >> and his stage presence, the promotion of his own financial success. >> i will be the greatest jobs president that god ever created. >> and trump's unvarnished ability to say what voters are saying about today's politicians. >> we have losers, we have losers, we have people that don't have it. >> it all adds up to a
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controversial headline grabbing campaign that despite the conventional wisdom may be far from dead. >> david schuster joins me now and what do trump's opponents need to do now if they want to start bringing trump's poll numbers down-to-earth? >> tony, one of the things that they're talking about doing, a negative ad. probably not soon, but certainly by october or november or december, certainly if donald trump is leading the field. but there's always a danger, if you run a negative add in a primary against a member of your own party you yourself may pay the price. the murder/suicide in politics. people look at howard dean in 2014, that summer, he was leading the democratic field. and dick gephart decided to go after him. and then it ended his campaign,
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and dean finished third. and john edwards. if you go after donald trump with negative ads they themselves may get hurt by the conservative supporters who like trump right now. >> for a moment, let's shift to the deputies, and an interesting poll about hilliary clinton and bernie sanders. and what does it tell us? >> it tells us that the hilliary clinton campaign has reached a moment that they long feared. not only her untrustworthy numbers above 60% but the main art that hilliary clinton has been making, that she's more electable in a general election than the self i.d. socialist bernie sanders. but the poll indicates that bernie sanders would do as well if not better than hillary against republicans including scott walker and jeb bush and marco rubio in races like iowa and colorado and virginia. so again state-by-state, hilliary clinton is supposed to be the democrat who would have
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the best chance of winning but there's bernie sanders according to polling, he's now beating the republicans and doing better than hilliary clinton. >> interesting as ever. david schuster, thank you. and coming up next on the program, the qur'an is as old as islam. where it was found and how it survived.
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>> so fragments of an ancient copy of the qur'an, an ain't book of islam showed up in the uk possibly part of one of the oldest editions of the text. >> reporter: every now and again comes something that doesn't just excite historians, but it thrills them. >> if it's right really, it is quite -- >> you can see why they're
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pleased. some save the oldest fragments of the qur'an discovered. 1400 years of age. at a university an hour north of london. written on sheep or goat skin. can you look at something inscribed around the time islam was born. >> within 20 years of the prophet's death the scribe could have known the prophet. and if he didn't know the prophet, he may have known somebody that knew the prophet. >> what's remarkable, these have been here in the university's archives since the 1940s, and it was only after a researcher asked to look at them, she realized that they were much older than anybody realized. and the rest, they say is history, in this case, quite literally. she was that student and knew that she was looking at something special. >> the fact that it was very
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old. because of the writing and because of the script, it's very, very early. >> academics always knew they had something precious in the vault. that was not a surprise, but finding out just how old how precious thanks to radio carbon they think that came as a welcome shock. >> we knew it was old but it was after the life of the prophet mohamed and soon after. >> it's hard to say if it's the oldest in the world but experts say it's definitely one of the oldest. and hours after going public, the university has already started receiving enormous cash offers. >> are you going to keep it here? >> i believe that we are going to keep it here. in the foreseeable future. >> the public and wanna be buyers can see it in person
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through october. >> for a look at what's coming up at the top of the hour, john seigenthaler is here. >> hi, tony, tonight at 8:00, drilling in the arctic, sell oil gets permission, but environmentalists say that an oil spill in the region would be catastrophic. a new york woman shunned by her family after leaving her ultra orthodox community. and sadly she took her own life. young man who left the community and the challenges that he faced. >> . >> and plus, the challenges of being the highest ranking woman in the u.s. military. >> when change happened, people's heads hurt the way new shoes hurt. so there were hurting minds out there when i started. and yep, there were folks who didn't behave the way they should have behaved. >> admiral michelle howard on gender and racial equality and her mission to prevent damaging cyber attacks in this country.
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and dissident chinese artist, he's free to travel after his passport was revoked four years ago, and a look at his most famous work in beijing. coming up in 5 minutes. >> many are logging in today to a new website that promises to bring new competition to online. jet.com aims to undercut giants like amazon and costco. >> it's so much cheaper than other prices online. >> jet.com hopes to steal customers from online giants like amazon by up ending their business model. they say that they will make money from $50 annual membership fees, and no profit from products sold. >> google and instacard they're all chasing the internet. and we see a really big opportunity to innovate around price, and to do to the market
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what amazon what cost costco did to wal-mart. >> customers are offered prices depending on what payment options they choose, and which location they order goods from across the web. >> we offer non-returnable and how much that can save you and we slow ship speed down to save you money. it's all transparent. >> the business model depends on scale. and the big question is, will enough people buy memberships. they hope to have 15 million paying customers by 2020. >> electronics. >> in some cases the company fills orders by having the the customer buy on-site. and it absorbs shipping costs and price differences. >> that's all of our time for this news hour. thank you for being with us.
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i'm tony harris in new york city. john seigenthaler is back in a couple of minutes.
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>> hi everyone, this is al jazeera america. i'm john siegenthaler. sandra bland's arrest. >> get out of the car. i will light you up. >> the dash cam video. the controversy surrounding it and the new questions about her death in jail. arctic approval. president obama givers a big oil company the green light to drill off the north coast of alaska. >> it's huge and what it represents is so much bigger. >> a move met with