this is al jazeera america, i'm john seigenthaler. deadly force... >> to ensure his appearance... ..the arraignment for a white cincinnati officer that shot a black person to death. and how body cameras may change law enforcement the interview - bernie sanders sits down with al

jazeera. >> i'm surprised how people say enough is enough what he says about his campaign, chances and hillary clinton. beneath the surface, with oklahoma san jose earthquakes. >> with a 5.6, 5.7 earthquake would be significant we look at fracking and the state's refusal to connect the two plus, happy birthday - the big money fight over this song as a judge will decide who, if anyone, owns it the former police officer clarnaled with murdering a -- charged with murdering a black driver in cincinnati posted bomb. much of the focus is on him, new questionses are surfacing about the actions of fellow officers at the scene.

bisi onile-ere is in cincinnati. >> john, two officers testified before a grand jury saying they didn't see anything the day of the shooting and killing. body camera video shows him telling an officer with the city that he saw the victim dragged at this hour. both officers are suspended pending an investigation by the prosecutor's office, as well as the police department. >> i had the opportunity this afternoon to sit with the mayor of cincinnati, and he talked about this case, and why he believed the university of cincinnati's police department needs to be reformed. >> reporter: appearing in court, wearing a prison uniform and hands cuffed backhands his back, cincinnati police officer ray tensing is charged with murder. the 25-year-old pleading not

guilty to shooting and killing samuel during a july 19th traffic stop. the moments captured on tensing's body cam contradict his version of the story, leading to his arrest. >> he's dragging me, man. >> reporter: thursday the prosecutor released footage from two more officers, seeming to confirm one of them lied about what happened. >> did you see him dragged? >> yes. >> john krafter is the mayor of cincinnati >> reporter: when you saw the officer body cam video, what was your reaction? >> sadness, tragedy. i saw the tape lining everyone else for the -- like everyone else for the first time yesterday. >> he was a member of the city council during the race riots in 2001. now he wants to see changes at the university of cincinnati's police department. >> there has to be.

clearly their policing not under our authority, but in the city. they need to bring the standard up to ours. >> they have a mutual aid agreement, giving them the right to cross over into each other's jurisdictions and serious situations. questions are being raised about whether tensen had jurisdiction to stop him in the first placement. -- place. >> my understanding they have the right to pursuit if it's on campus. in this case it did not start or end on campus. there'll be a difference of opinion, but i think it's not concurrent with our agreement. >> reporter: are you prepared for what could happen if the officer walks free? >> i'm convinced he'll but every resource into winning this case, so i'm going to bet on him.

obviously we'll be prepared if it doesn't go that way. >> reporter: his attorney is preparing to argue self-defence. >> we learnt that the two officers that have been suspended - they were implicated in a case a couple of years ago involving the death of a et mentally ill black man who was unarmed. i'm told that because that case was settled out of court, the officers were never fired. the shooting in cincinnati is the latest incident caught on video. from texas, cleveland, new york and baltimore, the images shocking are shaping the debate. more and more departments are choosing to capture their own video with police body cameras. >> reporter: would officer ray tensing have been charged with murder had the encounterer not been caught on video. >> we don't know the answer. we know that a key piece of evidence against the officer is

the body camera he wore. the devices are small, some weighing 3.5 ounces, and they may be dramatically changing law enforcement in america. a study in california suggest that they make a difference. when police officers wear them, the department saw a 60% drop in the use of force and 88% in citizen's complaints. the attorney general loretta lynch announced funds for cameras saying it would enlanes transparency. that is unmistakable in the recording, a homeless man shot to death by police officers. two of them are facing murder charges. >> a few months after the death

of eric garner. the n.y.p.d. launched a body camera programme. his arrest and chokehold some say ended his life captured on a cell phone. some experts believe the body camera could alter procedure and the behaviour of the police officers. others caution they may invade people's privacy. >> police officers go into people's homes, a significant amount of calls is for domestic violence. they are seeing people at the worst of their lives. they see accident victims as they die. there's a lot of police officers that you see that you don't want to end up on youtube. >> reporter: with the privacy questions, there's a fact that the video may be the best and only witness to what happened and why darren is a retired n.y.p.d. lieutenant, a professor of criminal justice. he's back in our studio. welcome. let's talk about - we talked about this before, does this

change, this case, will it change the dynamic, will we see all police officers with cameras on it? >> the sensationalism of this case elevates it to a must do in all departments. unfortunately, we need these types of incidents to move things forward, to utilize the technology and policing. >> what about the questions about privacy, what about officers who say "i can't do much with the camera on". . >> officers will have to adhere to the innovation in terms of technology, it's the society we live in. technology is something advancing in our society, you may have officers that say it may impact on the way i deal with situations. unfortunately, that is something they'll have to deal with. >> so does this tell us there's things going on that we didn't know about for many, many years. should we assume that police

officers are doing things they shouldn't have. >> by and large the average officer comes to work to do a job. we have a small component of officers involving in misconduct. >> what do you think happened to this police officer. it's like he exploded in the middle of a conversation. one of the things i look at. this was a campus officer, an officer that was assigned to cincinnati. generally speaking. he wouldn't be as used to or comfortable in making the decisions. when you look at other officers, they are more experienced. >> because he doesn't necessarily work in certain neighbourhoods, and because he doesn't really come in contact with the general publishing, he mostly deals with students, he's not able to handle the situation, but why should he

have right and responsibilities of a regular police officer. >> good point. what happens is this officer, as a campus police officer, they are referred to as sworn police officers, as a sworn police officer, you have the same abilities as a uniform police officer assigned to sints. >> the -- cincinnati. >> the community doesn't always see them that way. >> unfortunately no. that's what brought it into effect. the campus police were seen as less powerful than the sworn police officers that worked in the departments, so the city realized that, look, they can be an asset to the police department in sirns. they have -- cincinnati. they have a pair of campus police with officers that work with cincinnati police department. >> do they need to carry gun. some don't. >> it's subject difficult. you have to look at it from the

municipality, we look at community security, they don't carry guns. when up look at sunni, the state of new york, the state of the sunni officers assigned to the colleges, they carry firearms. it's a case-by-case basis, not a one-fix solution that we'll give guns to everyone or not. >> good to see you taliban sources tell al jazeera america that mullah omar mohamed is, indeed, dead, and a successor has been chosen. >> he founded the taliban in 1994. it's unclear when he died, but afghan officials say it was 2013 he game one of the most wanted men in the world when he refused to turn over osama bin laden after the 9/11 attacks. there's a new leader back in this country - armed military recruiters have been removed since killings of five

in chattanooga. the pentagon may follow suit. defense officials are considering steps to increase security at 7,000 u.s. military facilities. jamie mcintyre is at the pentagon with that. >> reporter: right now most u.s. troops that search on u.s. soil are unarmed. ash carter is to consider when and if more troops can carry firearms for their own protection. >> defense secretary ash carter says the july 16th attack illustrate a threat to military personnel in the united states, posed by what he calls home-grown violent extremists. ash carter ordered top officials and military officers come up with an action plan to upgrade extinguish security, particularly -- upgrade security, particularly at off-installation facilities,

such as the tennessee recruiting facility in a mall. in his memo, carter orders: a pentagon spokesman says carter wants the services to tell him if the idea of arming more troops on desk duty is a good idea. >> looking at arming the personnel doesn't mean that's what the services decide. it tells them they have within dod the authority to do that. >> the pentagon says there's more than 7,000 u.s. military facilities not on bases or in other errors, where restrictions on access provide a basic first line of defense. those facilities include recruiting stations, ro c.t. center. here is what the pentagon does not want. it does not want well-mining private citizens to show up

outside facilities with guns, protecting the unarmed military workforce. >> peter cook issued a statement last week saying:. >> one big problem with the citizens protection force, it's not clear when someone approaches a military facility with a gun. if they are a friend or a foe. >> arming u.s. troops domestically is one option that secretary carter is of coursing the services to consider. he wants them to figure out basic upgrades, such as fitsical barriers -- physical barriers, better procedures, and a more effective mass alert system so everyone is notified in the case of an active shooter threat. the services have been given until august 21st to get the

proposals to him for approval now it the mystery of mh370, a peace of debris that could be from that doomed flight will be taken to france. it was found wednesday on reunion island, more than 2,000 miles from the search area. investigators will try to determine whether it belongs to the boeing 777 that disappeared. tania page is on reunion island with more. >> we know at the moment that there are malaysian officials, investigators, and they'll give us a news conference, we'll have a comment tomorrow. we'll find detail about what happens to this, what could be, really, a vital clue in the ongoing investigation to what happened to mh370. we'll find out more about that tomorrow. if it is from that plane, it's a significant find, discovered by a couple of people wandering along the beach. they said it was covered in baan abbingles. it appears to be the right age.

although everyone is cautious, some experts believe it is from a boeing 777. the right kind of pain. what will they learn from it? possibly not much, as far as what happened to the flight, but it will, i think, give confirmation to those searching for the wreckage that they are looking in the right place. that's tonya paige reporting. to jerusalem, and a terrifying scene at a gay pride parade, an orthodox jewish man stabed six people before officers arrested him. two are in critical ymp condition. he had recently been released from prison and served time for stabbing three people at the same event in 2005 the case of three al jazeera journalists facing charges in egypt is on homed. peter greste, mohamed fadel fahmy and mohammed badr were expecting a verdict today. an egyptian court delayed the

decision until sunday at the earliest. the three men found guilty of aiding the abandoned muslim brotherhood. charges they and al jazeera deny. peter greste talks to erica pitzi about the latest delay. >> look, it's frustrating, frustrating for me, incredibly difficult and frustrating for my colleagues, mohamed fadel fahmy and mohammed badr. the problem for all of us is it defines of rest of our lives. for me it means whether or not i will continue as a foreign correspondent. if i'm convicted i will not be able to travel to a country with an extradition treaty with egypt. for my colleagues, it's more serious. if they are convicted they have a chance of going back to prison. imagine what it's like for them, each time they go to court, to say goodbye to the family, not knowing if they'll return. >> peter greste, mohamed fadel

fahmy and mohammed badr spent a year in jam. mohamed fadel fahmy and mohammed badr were released on bail, and greste consider deported to australia. coming up, the mother found dead in a gaol cell. the search for answers when suspects die in custody cecil the lion, and the vilification of its killer on social media. how much is too much?

the new york attorney-general is investigating the death of a woman in a gaol cell. she was awaiting rant when sheing arraignment when she died. calls for accountability and change is growing. sara hoy is here with the story. >> you know what, she is not alone. when we look at the numbers, there's a high list of these people, even within the last month. you'll be shocked looking at the

numbers behind the deaths. >> reporter: the death of freddy gray in police custody sparked protests across baltimore. the unrest in charm city sparked more than outrage about one man's death, igniting a call for action against a pattern. sandra bland dead in a cell. ken chapman, dead in an alabama gaol cell. rex dell henry dead in a mississippi gaol cell. the deaths come in the last few weeks, with ray net turner, 43 mother of eight dead on monday in a gaol cell outside new york city. her alleged crime - shoplifting food for her family. gonzalez, the attorney for the family. >> she was not arrested for eyeshadow or lipstick or something else egocentric or superficial. she wanted, maybe, something for

the family. it was a small matter that could have been dealt with in a different way turner, who had high blood pressure complained of feeling ill and was taken to the hospital for treatment on sunday. less than 24 hours later she was dead. her husband, unaware, was waiting at the courthouse. >> she's suffering from the impact of this. he lost his wife. a young wife, a good wife, a wife that he cares for, unnecessarily. >> her death, and others often lead many unanswered questions. after sandra bland was dead in her cell in july, the family questioned the official autopsy. >> i'm disgusted that we are having a discussion about an autopsy. she was pulled over for something insignificant. hours of video to dispel rumours, the rumour that bland

was dead, in her mug shot. >> the reason we are going this is the misinformation put out through social media and mainstream media amid the controversy, concern remains over how many died while in police custody, as well as the circumstances of their deaths. demands for change and pressure to stop the deaths exploded across social media. not at single agency keeps reliable data on the deaths. a march 2015 report from the federal bureau of justice statistics found the death-related programme, aiming to track persons who died in custody at the state level counts half, at best, of all deaths in police custody. >> between 2003 and 2009, a most recent period where statistics are available. vjs found 4900 died during or

after law enforcement personnel attempted to arrest or restrain them. 60% of arrest-related deaths were classified as homicide. criminal justice reform advocate says for a system that confines millions of people, transparency is looking. >> because the noms are large. 2 -- numbers are large, 2.2 million, we lose sight of the fact these are mothers, sisters, aunts and uncles. it's solely foerkdsed on punishment. we used to be compassionate, about who goes in the system. we are getting the outcomes we see, where people are hurt, killed, and it's unaccounted for. believe it or not. most of the police departments, the correctional departments are not even mandated to report data to the federal government or the state government. we need to do more, and the stories of people losing or taking their lives is a push for

americans to own the criminal justice system that exists. >> most people arriving has there been an increase in deaths of people in police custody. the police say no, these death are are just gaining national attention and media scrutiny. >> that's in part because of social media. >> absolutely, we saw a growth in the black lives matter movement after trayvon martin and now we have a collective interest in what happens to people going into custody. >> you are talking about the statistics, and maybe half the number of people that die in custody are counted. how does that - do we have a sense of the how that - why that is happening, or why they are not counting those people, and what can be done about it? >> no one can say why it's not happening. the president signed an act saying now the agencies are required to report this. even then, the agencies receive

federal dollars. still, no agency is absolutely held to the fire on this, it's certain ones, certain cases. >> it's a surprising bit of information. good story. thank you for bringing it to us. next, behind the scenes much bernie sanders campaign, who his supporters are, and what they want. and the possible link between fracking and quakes. a scientist talks about the pressure to go easy on big oil.

thank you for bringing it to us. pm pm hi, this is al jazeera america, i'm john seigenthaler. the upstart - challenging hillary clinton and picking up steam. >> we need to develop a grassroots movement and the way you do it is people communicate. >> one on one with bernie sanders - the dark horse

candidate > quakes growing in intensity. fears of the impact of fracking in a state where it brings in big money the target - an african lion killed, and social media is out for blood. what the uproar says about online shaming and us. birthday battle. the copyright fight and so-called smoking gun evidence that could finally set happy birthday free can bernie sanders win the presidency. 73 years old, a self-described socialist. you karnt read an article about it without seeing the word rumpled. his biggest obstacle, challenging hillary clinton for the democratic observation. he's drawing big crowds, raising millions. david shuster had the opportunity to talk to him. >> bernie sanders acknowledges that he's a bit surprised how

quickly his campaign took off. there was evidence of the political rocket field boosting his campaign at an organising event last night. >> the american people are saying loudly and clearly enough is enough. >> it was another campaign speech from bernie sanders not in iowa or vermont or wisconsin. this time the presidential candidate spoke in washington d.c. in the intimate setting of one person's small apartment. >> no, it is not right. >> in the political world, this event, in actuality was huge. bernie sanders addressed not just this group, but according to his campaign, he was in front of more than 100,000 people all at the same time. how is that possible? staffers streamed the speech live over the internet to more than 3600 parties. >> it is wrong that people are working 40 or 50 hours a week and still living in poverty.

>> reporter: the vast number of parties in all 50 states made for an eclectic mix, from nashville, north carolina, to tallahassee florida, to students and neighbours in new york city harlem. altogether, this was the biggest online organising event for any 2016 candidate. the large turn out could be crucial to sanders, scrambling to build infrastructure to keep up with the momentum. >> the beginning stages, we have a long way to go. >> away from the crowds, we spoke with sanders about using the internet to campaign. >> what the internet allows you to do is communicate directly with people, without having to go through the filter of corporate media. i knew that that would be important. >> the internet, he noted, is a great way to recruit volunteers. >> we need to develop am

grassroots movement, determining what has to be done, who will knock on doors, who will make the phone calls, pass out the literature. >> we'll pass it on to other team leaders to take steps to move the campaign forward. >> kenneth it the campaign's digital director. >> my job is to get the message out, the senator's message out about the major issues in this election. >> they include wealth, inequality and social justice. . >> we have to combat institutional racism in the united states of america. >> in recent weeks the center has been focussed on trying to appeal to african-americans, they are a key constituency the campaign fears may not relate to him. >> african american youth unemployment. 51%. what we have got to do is deal with this issue of - huge issue of racial justice, and instate

ughtsal racism. we -- submit usual racism. to help reinforce that message... >> senator bernie sanders... >> he featured african-american event, and afford an opportunity from all races and backgrounds to meet the candidate and enjoy free food and drinks. a young man was thrilled to get a chance of one having a beer. the enthusiasm is showing up online. a popular hashtag on twitter is feel the burn, a slogan showing up at nearly every sanders rally. >> reporter: was that something used in previous campaigns? >> no, it came - i have no idea where it came from. there's a lot of things that happen spontaneously which excite me a lot. literally i read in papers about mitings that took -- meetings that took place in a state that we had nothing to do to

organise. >> the senator and supports admit to being surprised how quickly the campaign caught fire. as he wrapped up the speech, he was clear the message was the same. >> when we stand together, there is nothing, nothing, nothing that we cannot accomplish. >> a revolution, according to most polls is trailling clinton by double digits, but the gap is narrowing. >> when it comes to campaign cash, the mother's milk of politics, sanders is behind hillary clinton. he is beginning to close the gap. the question is can sanders leverage all of this and keep the surge going. >> so you covered a lot of campaigns, a lot of candidates, how is he different. he has big crowds. he's using the internet. what else? >> there's an auth intisty, he's the same person on cam yes and off. he's comfortable talking about the wealth gap, minimum wage or

workers' rights. nothing phases him. one thing that was striking is that he's not the politician that looks you in the eye and gives you the glimmer and shake. that's not bernie sanders - he's a neat and potatos issue guy. the when is how far will it take you. >> thank you. tyson is cofounder and national director of vets for bernie and is in st. louis. why do you support bernie sanders? >> good to be with you. the list of reasons why i and many thousands of other veterans support bernie sanders is too long to list. but starting... >> try a couple. >> okay. starting with his support for vets rons. senator -- veterans, senator sanders has been on the senate veterans' affairs committee for the last 10 years, two of which as a chairman.

he made the far-reaching bipartisan effort to pass a bill that improved veterans health care, expand v.a. hospitals hire doctors and nurses, and for returning service members enable in-state tuition for return veterans and surviving spouses to receive the same benefits. that's not the only thing veterans care about. >> there are more issues that you care about. what is it that makes bernie sanders different to other candidates? >> sure, he's incorruptible. quite frankly you look at the other candidates in the race. they have super pacts - hillary clinton, look act the top donor list, all from wrault. bernie sanders -- wall street. bernie sanders rallies against wall street. when we talk about it's too

expensive to take care of veterans but we can bail out wall street to the tune of 16 trillion. that is infuriating. when it comms to standing up for the american people across the nation, bernie sanders has the record. >> you know what some democrats and observers say he can't win. what do you say? >> i say to the critics, they are flat-out wrongs. bernie sanders is on fire right now. he will continue to be on fire until he wins the democratic nomination. he's the only candidate drawing crowds of 10,000 plus. as everyone nose yesterday -- knows yesterday there were house parties across the nationful over 100,000 gathered together to mobile illize against one special candidate. to the pundits and critics, i

say we haven't had a single debate. >> what is hillary clinton is the nominee, could you vote for hillary clinton? >> that is something that i don't want to the consider right now. right now my full-support is backhand "borderland". i -- band "borderland", bernie sanders we'll watch with you, its know you travelled a longs way to join us, thanks very much the royal dutch shell i'll ice breaker is on the -- i will ice breaker is on the move after greenpeace protesters were moved from blocking it. you are looking at the ship in the water off portland, these are kayakers there. earlier, a dozen activists suspended themselves from st. john's bridge over the river,

and you can see there's people in the water. this has been a problem for police. they blocked the ship and intended to block the ship. there has been arrests, the kayakers tried to block the river. the ship had to go back but eventually police hope to clear the river, and as you can see, this appears to be what they are doing right now. the ship's about 200 yards away. once they get as many of these kayakers for people who are in the water, out of the water, out of the river, they'll attempt to move that ice breaker. we'll follow that throughout the evening now to oklahoma. earthquakes are more frequent, powerful. the state had nearly 600 large magnitude quakes, triple the rate. earlier this year the oklahoma geological group said it's likely most are triggered by

waste water disposal wells used in fracking. heidi zhou-castro is there. >> oklahoma experienced no less than 79 significant earthquakes in just the last week. a quarter of them have a magnitude three and above. the rise in earthquakes here has been truly astronomical, and it's taken a while for science and the politics to catch up. >> why isn't any law out there to protect us. >> reporter: angela hoped for a peaceful retirement in rural oklahoma. now she says staying here feels like death by 1,000 cuts. >> so this one just gets wider. >> reporter: no buildings collapsed, no lives lost. >> but with oklahoma's earthquakes growing in number and in intensity, spots fears

the next could bring her home down. >> it takes your breath away in a since, because you can literally describe how the house will roll - north to south, east to west. >> reporter: before the oklahoma fracking boom picked up in 2001, the state averaged less than two earthquakes a year, now there's two a day. >> we have more magnitude 3 earthquakes r here. >> reporter: the explosion is man made and unprecedented. >> we are 600 times the normal background rate. we have moved beyond what can be explained through a natural process. >> disposal wells are likely to blame. in this part of the country, each barrel of oil pulled from the earth cams up with as many

as 20 barrels of naturally occurring salt water. oil companies dispose of the water by in jecting it into the ground under high pressure, if it hits a fault line, it can trigger an earthquake. >> what is the worse case scenario you can see? >> the worse case scenario is that we have many faults within oklahoma capable of producing a significant earthquake. even another magnitude 5.6, 5.7 or magnitude six would be significantly. >> that can happen in oklahoma. as head of the geological survey, holland is sounding the alarm now. that was not always the case. for years the office maintained the quakes could be blamed on natural causes. we did what we could when we could. how the path plays out we can't change. >> a path dictated by political and industry pressures.

holland studied the link between oil production and seismic activity, he was summoned to a closed door meeting with his bus. the president there, and harold ham, a pioneer in frack of course, one of the richest men in america and a donor to university. both declined to be interviewed. holland was asked to be careful about what he said in public. despite personal doubts, the oklahoma geological survey pout out statements like this, saying a swarm of earthquakes was a result of natural causes, to the derision of the greater scientific community. >> certainly i was given talking points that everyone was comfortable with. >> you were given them by politicians? >> no, no, no, through the university, and my employers, right. >> reporter: and the university gets a significant amount of donations from oil and gas industries. >> yes, they do.

>> it wasn't until i hope this year that the geological survey reversed its stance, revealing in writing the connection between disposal wells and earthquakes. >> do you regret not saying that earlier. >> yes, i think we could have made that statement before. we had to wait for irfe to be comfortable with it. >> what about all the people that suffered property damage or fear because they live in and these earthquakes are happening in the community, they would have been comfortable with you validating their fears earlier. >> and we were. we were talking about this in public before that statement was released. >> reporter: it was the statement that carried the geological survey's weight and was too late to make an impact on the legislature, which adjourned in may without a single regulation on oil and gas. many oklahomans refuse to believer the science. this man experienced a 4.5

magnitude earthquake in crescent, oklahoma on monday. >> i don't think the oil field has anything to do with it. >> reporter: what makes you believe that? >> it's been here forever. this is starting to happen in the last two years. >> do you believe the scientists that say it's caused by disposal wells? >> no. i think it's just mother nature. >> reporter: with one in three jobs in oklahoma linked to oil and gas, the tide of public opinion has been slow to turn towards state repetitive cory williams quaul for a disposal -- call for a dispolsal well -- supposal well moratorium. >> it appears from the state's vantage point that we are waiting for a catastrophic loss of life and property. it's a terrible way to be going. all in the name of economic

development. >> reporter: what is it like for you to live under the threat, close your eyes at night knowing that the major catastrophe could be around the corner. >> they are running us over, when i watch the people emotionally falling apart living request the fear, it's not fair or right. >> reporter: they say the pressures are great. holland announced his resignation. what advice would you give to your replacement? >> the science is ours, the job and politics are theirs. hopefully we can make decisions based on it. >> reporter: how much does it take for you to say that publicly? >> i'm either plenty brave or plenty stupid at times. >> the earthquakes in oklahoma

are getting stronger. in crescent, west of here, they experienced three magnitude 4 earthquakes on monday. one sign of progress - oil production companies there did voluntarily closed down two disposal wells in response, and the people of kressents have been -- kressant have been celebrating the lack of major earthquakes signs. now to the killing of cecil the lyon, the condemnation is worldwide. dr walter palmer - he apologised saying he believed the hunt was legal and had no idea the lion was protected. he's in hiding and is being vilified online. actress mia farrow tweeted his home address. there has been threats, and this is nothing new in the digital aid with vigilanteism and social

media. is it right? "al jazeera america"s waj eid has been following the story. how does this compare to backlash on other stories? >> this is bad. it teek soicial media shaming is like -- it seems social media shaming can't be erased, forgotten or removed, and has a lasting footprint that this may be oo justine sacko moment - explain that reference. this may be worse because of the severity of the crime. instantaneous and vicious. >> there's no accountability, it comes from anonymous people saying things that are outright lies sometimes, right? >> yes. that's the social media community. it has strengths and weaknesses. sometimes it acts like a

kangaroo court. a great grave consequence of the social media committee, when it comes to a tragedy and a crime. i don't want to defend walter palmer. he's incident until proven guilty. we don't know the facts, we are indicted, tried, convicted, sentenced and punished publicly, globally and instantaneously, and the consequences of social media shaming, that's what we haven't come to terms with. >> what are the consequences? >> well, for example, suppose - look, he made a mistake, he apologises. look at the consequences now. there's death threats against him. number one. number two, people said rot in hell. spray-painting it on his dentist offers. there's extra police security in his neighbourhood now. when it comes to family and friends, they may be harassed. suppose he says he makes a mistake, and forever he may be remembered by this one action. hefter, the protagonist - she

had it sowed on, the scar the letter. she can remove it. when it comes to the digital footprint. it stays forever. i don't want to hem away at the anonymous part of this. if someone makes a death threat. they can be arrested by police. because they are anonymous they can say anything like this, and scare people literally to death. that argument doesn't go over well in the social communicate yich, does it? >> this is the age that we live in. that's the strength and weakness of social media. we hide behind digital av tars. anyone with access to the internet can insert themselves. they can use it as a tool for good or evil. by public shaming we bring attention to the cause of poaching, illegal poaching and hunting. at the same time, what we are seeing is what you mentioned

negative consequences of the anonymous trolling resulting in death threats, and many say unfair shame of course, taking on a life of its own is too scary. we are tried in the court of public opinion. it's instantaneous, global and remains permanent. >> good to see you good to see you, come back soon. >> see you later. tonight the international committee will announce which city will host the 2022 olympic games. antonio mora is here with a look at two cities in contention, and a controversy. >> john, the last two cities standing in this competition is beijing and kazakhstan's latest city ahmadi. either is a first, a city has never been held in kazakhstan, a country that won one medal in socially. there's concerns about the human rights record and economy. human rights are central to the

debate in beijing. home to the 2008 summer games. it would be the first city to host summer and winter olympics. in the next hour we look at what each city offers, and the problems it presents. we talk about the serious issues facing the i.o.c. as demands and burden create a situation where many cities don't want to host the games. >> this has gotten so big. and the security problem. >> boston dropped out of the bidding for the sum 2024 olympics. we'll watch that after this broadcast. thank you next on this broadcast - the company that cashes in every time happy birthday is played, and the court battle to put the song in the public domain.

>> comedian mo amer. ♪ happy birthday to you ♪ happy birthday to you ... a rare case of a motion picture using the song "happy birthday", it's one of a few dozen that decided to do so, because happy birthday to you is protected. warner music, a group that zones the copyright in the united states, but that could change, a lawsuit argues the song should

be part of the public domain. an entertainment lawyer joins us in our studio. i should welcome, your firm is romano law, specialising in litigation. if i sing "happy birthday" in public, what is the fee? >> the starting fee is $1500, for a major motion pictures, 5-600. >> not in my home, but if i sing it outside at an event? >> that's right. >> that's what warner music charge me. >> they earn about $2 million. >> a lawsuit is challenging that, why? >> because the argument is that in 1935. it couldn't or shouldn't have been registered in the first place because it was abandoned in 1922. they found what they called a smoking gun, a 1922 edition of a book where it was rn established without a c in a circle, which

you had to do. >> so if you published that, the idea is it's in the public domain, there's no copyright. >> once in the public domain, there's no getting it back. that's right. >> they collect $2 million a year for happy birthday. hard to believe. what would happen to all the fees. if they lose the lawsuit, do they have to pay it back >> potentially it could be dis-georged. they paid $15-$25 million when they applied the rights. from 1988 and the counter copyright legislation if if stands, it's good until 2030, that's a lot of money to be collected and potentially to be returned. >> people don't know this, who unknowingly violate the copyright, right? >> happens all the time. >> does it? >> if the plaintiffs are from successful it could be a gift to restaurants and all the film-makers who want to use the song, but can't. >> we talked about this in the

newsroom. you heard some restaurants sing this alternate happy birthday song, what happy, happy - it's different. it's not happy birthday to you. and the reason they do that is why? >> to avoid the infringement of the copyright. >> really? >> that's right. >> they wouldn't want to pay the fee. if they violate it they have to pay a fine. >> they are aggressive about collecting the fee. it came about because a documentary film-maker made a film about the origin of the song and was surprised to get a letter from warner saying "pay us $15,000 or face fines." given the popularity of the song, 2 million is not much, is it. it's a lot of money clearly... >> that's what the reports say. a lot of people try to get around it singing a different song. >> fascinating story. we'll find out soon. thank you. >> that's the broadcast. thank you for watching. i'm john seigenthaler, see you here tomorrow night.

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