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>> it isn't easy to talk openly on this base. >> and america's war workers. >> it's human trafficking. >> watch these and other episodes online now at aljazeera.com/faultlines. >> this is aljazeera america, live from new york city. i'm tony harris. >> my son's death has a bigger purpose on it. he was too good for this wicked world. so god picked the rose too soon. >> a candid conversation with michael brown's mother. an aljazeera exclusive. plus: >> the choice we face is ultimately between di diplomacy and war. >> what could happen without a
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nuclear zeal with iran, and 70 years ago, the u.s. dropped an atomic bomb on hiroshima. as the world ribs. >> ask we begin with a look back at a tumultuous year with ferguson, missouri. the day that marks a year since the unarmed teen was shot and killed by darren wilson. it led to a department investigation and several regular nations, shining a spotlight on the african-american community and the police officers. for michael's death in 2014,
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the wounds are still raw and deep. in an exclusive interview with aljazeera, his mother discussed her son's death and the events that followed. and she shared her thoughts on the man who killed her son. >> i think that i had to be at work at 7:30, 7:00, so i went to work. >> august 9th began like any other workday for leslie. by lunchtime her life would change forever. around noon, she received the first of two merr phonecalls. >> when he called, he didn't tell me that it was my son, he said that something happened to somebody, and they were lying in the street. and when he referred to them, he said this boy, he didn't say a man, and i instantly felt this feeling, and images, and
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my mind clicked. and -- when i clicked over, she was crying. and she just said, she called me by my nickname, and she said, and when i got there, i saw him in the street. and probably the next 72 hours, i felt like, i said i never moved. but i know i did. and i don't know. i can't remember. >> how long was your son left to lie in the street?
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>> over four hours. over four hours. >> you have to think about that, don't you? you have to ask yourself, what were they thinking? where was the humanity? >> right. they treated my son like he had like he wasn't somebody. that's how they treated my son. >> what was your reaction to the members of the ferguson community, taking to the streets in some cases. and in some cases vandalizing their own community?
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i see the years and years of buildup of the prosecutor not doing his job, hours and hours away where they have no understanding. we saw cries for help. >> the burning, the looting. >> everything that they thought was out of the ordinary, it was a cry for help. and it was like we had a tsunami or a hurricane katrina, but it was killing after killing. and it was broad daylight,
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understanding. you know. that was not happening. >> have you come to terms with this idea that your son, unarmed, 18 years old, is dead? shot and killed by a then police officer? have you been able to wrap your mind around that concept? >> no. no. and i can't wrap my mind around it. they can never get me to understand why it happened. and how they came up with no indictment and the department of justice didn't see him doing anything wrong with his job. >> what do you think when i mention the name, darren wilson? what comes to mind? >> evil.
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you know, he is m killed my sond getting a peek into his life, into his mother is something that i would like to know. he hurt my child. he hurt him bad. >> he made is sound like he doesn't think much of your son, even to this day. >> how was he raised? >> there was a new interview that i don't even think you're aware of, with darren wilson, in the new yorker magazine. here's what he's saying. do i think about who he was as a person? not really.
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because it doesn't matter at this point. do i think he had the best upbringing? no. not at all. take that in for a second. what do you think? >> just what i said, that he's evil. his acts were devilish, and we definitely know he didn't have the right upbringing. because those are words that you just don't use, especially after you took somebody's life, and you know you had no reason to. he had no reason to do that. what he did last year, hurt me really bad. so his words mean nothing to me. >> have you forgiven him? >> never. never.
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>> why not? >> why? he won't even admit what he did was wrong, and he won't admit that he had no reason to do what he did. he was cold and malicious. i won't forgive him. >> coming up at 7:30 eastern, 4:30 central, we'll show you, that is 4:30 pacific time, we will show you never-before seen pictures of michael brown, and we'll look at how his family is coping in the year since his death. we reached out to darren wilson for comment. but we have not heard back yet. president obama is stepping up his efforts in congress to support the iran nuclear deal. libby casey joins us from washington, and libby, the first, and there are a couple of items here.
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the pretty has to overcome skepticism from many lawmakers, and then the huge lobbying effort against this plan. correct? >> that's right, tony, and the president only has about six weeks to win over members of congress. this is part of a campaign the white house is waging, the pushback against some of the ads against this, and also to convince the american people that the iran deal isn't only smart, but it's necessary. president obama flamed the current debate over the iran nuclear agreement since the most significant policy decision since the iraq war and found many parallels. >> many of the same people who wanted the war in iraq are making the case against the iran nuclear deal. it's a mindset characterized over a preference for military action over diplomacy. a mindset that puts a premium
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over making a con census. >> i american university in washington was the site of president kennedy's 1963 speech, calling for a nuclear test ban treaty with the soviet union. >> john f. kennedy called 50 years ago that the pursuit of peace is not as dramatic as the pursuit of war. >> president obama hoping to convince the american people and the members of congress that the nuclear deal is the best way to avoid war. >> so let's not mince words. choice we face is between diplomacy and war. maybe not tomorrow, maybe not three months from now, but soon. >> but members of congress continue to voice grave doubts and john mccain and lindsey
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graham accused the president of repeated blunders in the middle east. what we object 20 is the president's lack of realism, and the belief that diplomacy is good. they have to have enough votes next month to formally approve the iran deal. and they hope to have enough votes. >> my fellow americans, be contact your representatives in congress, and remind them of who we are. >> even as the president made his case to the american people, senators appealed to the atomic energy agency in a closed door briefing. >> i would say that most members left here with greater concerns about the inspection regime than they came in with.
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>> congress is now in recess for five weeks, but there will be no debate in the de -- break in the debate. the president is trying to convince 99% of republicans, and in fact, today in his speech, he talked about hardliners in iran, the ones that we see chanting death to america. and they oppose the deal with iran and they have found common cause with the republican caucus. >> now, that's a line. libby, thank you. and it's worth remembering that the u.s. is the only country to have used nuclear weapons in war, and it's just after 8 a.m. in the morning in japan, where 70 years ago the force of war was unleashed.
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hiroshima, and three days later, nagasaki. among the dignitaries at the hire ash ma peace memorial. and there in hiroshima, we'll talk to her in a few moments. anti-nuclear activist. and the grandson of harry s. truman, he joins us here from chicago. and cliff, thank you for your time. we appreciate you being here on this day, and so much ground i want to cover with you. but what are your thoughts on this day? >> my thoughts on august 6th and august 9th are primarily with the survivors of hiroshima and nagasaki, some of whom are friends of mine, and with the american servicemen who fought in that war. there was a lot of damage, a lot of cruelty and a lot of
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death in world war ii. so when these anniversaries come around, i wind up thinking of both sides. >> your grandfather authorized the use of atomic weapons to end the war in the pacific, and you know -- if you would stand by for me, clifton, i want to take in this moment of silence in hiroshima and nagasaki. [ bells tolling ]
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[ speaking japanese ]
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[ moment of silence ] [ moment of silence ] >> let's continue our conversation with clifton truman. clifton, i have to ask you, it is the question anyone watching us is probably thinking and considering. your grandfather authorized the use of atomic weapons to end the war in the pacific. and you've lived with that decision as part of your family's legacy for a long time now. have you come to your own view
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of whether it was right or wrong to have used atomic weapons on japan? >> i have tried, tony, to come to my own view of that, and i find that very difficult for me. because again, as i said, i find myself in the middle of this. i cannot tell united states veterans who fought in the pacific war that the atomic bombings were the wrong thing to do, because so many of them have held my hand and told me that that decision saved their lives. at the same time, i'm not going to tell a survivor of hiroshima and nagasaki that that was a great decision, because they suffered terribly for it. so it's very hard for me to come to a decision about whether that was a right or
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wrong or moral thing to do. >> there's a picture of caroline kennedy, and maybe i can flesh this out a little bit. tell me about the form that your activism in this area is taking. >> storyteller, i'm a writer primarily, and when i met in 2012, my family and i attended the ceremonies on the 67th anniversary, and each survivor that i met asked only one thing, that i continue to help tell their stories, so the rest of us understand what it's like to live through a nuclear explosion, in the hope that we do not do this again. >> clifton, don't go anywhere, i want you to stay with me as we work through this very poignant subject. [ audio difficulties ]
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that ceremony in hiroshima, and take a moment to describe the pictures here in the moment of science, but take a moment and describe the surroundings of what you're seeing there. >> reporter: tony, the minute of silence that you just saw was really powerful. everybody stopped what they were doing here and stood in silence. all you could hear is the cicadas chirping. people prayed for the victims who died. and calling on the world to abolish nuclear weapons. we're standing outside where the ceremony is, and this is a symbolic location. we're across the river from what is called the a-bomb building. and this was the most symbolic to where the bomb detonated.
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everybody who was here died instantly, because that's where the bomb dropped. and it's a reminder of the devastation brought by the bomb >> so clifton is here, the grandson of harry s. truman, and just a moment ago, he was talking about his trip to hiroshima, japan, and nagasaki as well. to the survivors, and on this trip, you had the opportunity to talk to survivors, and i'm curious as to what they're telling you. >> i've been able to talk to one of the survivors, and she now lives in canada, but she traveled back here to her hometown of hiroshima, to commemorate the 70th anniversary of the dropping of the bomb on the city. she has been spending her life warning the world about the horrors of nuclear weapons. and she said the day the bomb dropped, she was in a building
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with several of her classmates, and the bomb collapsed on top of them, and somehow, she was able to dig her way out. >> i saw moving things around me, and the children looked like human beings, but they were so injured human beings. everybody was walking like this, and their burned hands and skin and flesh like that. -- >> and tony, the number of survivors, as you can imagine, is dwindling, between here and hiroshima and nagasaki, there are about 200,000 survivors left. and the average age is 80. i spoke to another woman who traveled, and she's part of the last generation who will be able to hear firsthand from the
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survivors. >> i have another question for you, but i want to bring in clifton daniel back into the conversation here. and clifton, i think that you mentioned that you were there in 2012, and was it 2012 or 2013? but whatever the case, the first trip back, give me an experience of what it was like for you. and how were you received there? >> the first trip in 2012 or 2013? >> reporter: how were you received? >> the reception was -- i don't want to call it great, but it was good. my host, masahero, he thought that it would be before i went. because i asked him and i said, is this going to be positive in and it turned out to be, the survivors that i spoke to again all came to me, not in anger, not in reincrimination. they came to me with open arms
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and wanted to talk. it turned out to be a very positive visit. >> i have one more quick one for you. no sitting president has visited hiroshima or nagasaki. in your view, should that happen. and is the winner of the 2009 nobel peace prize that man who should make that trip? >> i know that the japanese, the survivors, would very much like president obama to do that, because of his comments in 2009, and i don't see why not. i don't see why any u.s. president would not go to heroshima or nagasaki for the ceremonies. >> clifton daniel, thank you for being with us. on the line, ross, one more
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question for you. the solemn ceremony we're watching here, and i would imagine that there are a lot of activities outside of that immediate area, and my guess would be that there are protesters that would like to have their voices heard on this day. >> yeah, actually, there's a lot going on outside of the ceremony. in the ceremony, there are tens of thousands of people. but outside of the ceremony, you have hundreds of thousands of visitors and protesters gathered. and i do not know if you can hear them chanting in the background here. they're across the river from where i am, tony, many of them are carrying signs, and calling for a ban on nuclear weapons. and some of them are voicing opposition to the peaceful use of nuclear energy.
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the japanese government has 52 fuk lar reactors, and all of them were shut down after the earthquake in 2011. >> exactly 70 years ago since the u.s. dropped an atomic bomb on hiroshima. let's go back to the ceremonies, underway in hiroshima. we'll be back with aljazeera part two of my national network exclusive with michael brown's mother. >> my struggle with justice. >> justice that leslie mcspaden is hoping for. that's next. the only way to get better is to challenge yourself,
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>> this sunday marks one year since 18-year-old michael brown was shot and killed by a mister in ferguson, missouri. a lot of negative things have been said since michael brown's death. but his mother, lesley mcspadden says that none of them are true. and she talks about how much she has struggled since his death and how she and her family are coping. >> he never was in trouble, and he never had any enemies, none of that. he was just -- that's another
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thing for me not to be able to wrap my mind around today. because he was just so loving and carefree, and still just a kid, even though he was 18, he was just a kid. like his mind hadn't expanded to being a man fully, but he was growing. [ audio difficulties ] how do you explain that? >> what i saw on there, what i saw was what darren wilson did in his interview, i saw them building up a story for him to go by.
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i saw a distraction. >> you saw character assassination? >> exactly. exactly. and they have to do that to build this guy up. for the lies that he was going to tell. >> do you feel there was a coverup? >> of course. of course. >> who was involved? well, i would say that the government, obviously. >> the justice department? >> the justice department, the state officials. yeah, anyone what had the power to do -- [ audio difficulties ] >> what's your struggle? >> my struggle is getting justice for mike brown. >> the family has filed a lawsuit. a civil lawsuit. >> uh-huh. >> what do you hope to gain in that process?
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>> a trial. him to be brought in to a courtroom. >> you want darren wilson brought into a courtroom and questioned? >> exactly. in the face of people like myself. not in his own little comfortable area where you feel free to say anything. >> you wan you want an advocater behalf to question him. is it about money? >> it's definitely not about money. not about it at all. money can't bring my son back. >> what do we want? >> justice! get down for michael brown!
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[ chanting ] >> there have been black men who have been killed since. something about what happened to your son lit a fuse that started a movement, and that movement continues today. what is it? what is it about what happened to your son that has led to this movement? >> i wish i could answer that for you. what is it that happened to my son that led to this moment? what about that moment? >> it definitely has to be the moment, the circumstance, the broad daylight, his actions. >> do you believe your son died in vain? >> i know he didn't die in vain. >> 42 states have put laws on the books to take on police violence since michael brown's death. >> my son's life and death has
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a bigger purpose on it. he was too good for this wicked world. so god picked the rose. do i like that? do i love that? of course not. but it has given me a voice for him to let people know that we're dealing with some social injustice. it's not fair, it's not right. >> there's a new interim police chief of ferguson as you know. his name is andre anderson, have you met him yet? >> no. >> do you plan to? >> no. i've already done too much. >> he says that his first priority is to build trust, between the police and the
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communities they are policing. >> uh-huh. >> the people they serve. based on your experience, how difficult a job is that going to be for this new chief? building trust. >> i think it's going to be very challenge for him he is a black man, we know that, and i think that when they selected him, that had a lot to do with it. they think that he can make the conversation easier because he's a black man. but if [ audio difficulties ] part of that conversation, no matter what color you are, if you choose to work there, you're not going to get anywhere. >> are you willing to help this
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chief meet his top priority? there's a powerful role, it seems to me that you can play here. >> you know, the role that i'm playing now is advocating justice for michael brown. i want justice for my son. i want to see some [ audio difficulties ]
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covering the events in ferguson for us, she's from missouri, and joins us from st. louis. it's great to have you both on the program. committee woman bynes, it's a pleasure to see you. let me start with this one. what is different in your view about ferguson today, a year after michael brown was killed? >> there is the need for change, the insistence for
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change, which didn't exist a year ago, and a year ago, many people didn't think that change was possible, but i think there's a lot of momentum behind what's happening. >> and dui an, there's the ferguson commissioner, formed by the governor, and is it back with its report yet? and if not, are we getting any indication of what it's considering? >> well, the commission still has work to do. looking at racial equality. and they're looking now, the things that they're looking at are expanding medicaid. and looking at raising the minimum wage in the area to $15 an hour, and also looking at things like, when a youth appears in court, allowing that person to have a public defender. >> so diane, if i drive along
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fluorescent avenue, and i know you were there a couple of days last week, and you're going to be there friday of this week. if i drive along fluorescent avenue today, what hasn't changed in ferguson in >> reporter: what hasn't changed, you still see a lot of bored up buildings, and some of the buildings that were burned last fall have been razeed. but you still see them. but when you go into the neighborhoods, particularly along canfield drive, where michael brown was shot, you talk to the residents, and they will tell you that there's this ongoing antagonism between the residents and the police. we talked to one young man, 18 years old. for no reason, and that's still
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an issue with a lot of those folks. >> and you find that to be true in what you're hearing? >> unfortunately, yes. so we know that things need to change. and many have not. we're trying to work on changing polic police culture, h doesn't happen overnight. so many of the reasons that created and festered here in ferguson and throughout the nation, they still exist because change has been pretty slow here for our people. >> let me get to that with you. is it true -- i'm going to run it by you -- is it true of the more than 100 bills related to [ audio difficulties ] in the legislature, that just one made it out of the legislature? >> that's correct.
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>> so no new legislation on, for example, establishing standards for [ audio difficulties ] that was offered up, requiring diversity and sensitivity training? none of that made it through the legislature? >> not the missouri legislature. there has been more in ferguson than in other states of missouri. we have a legislature that's not only majority republican, but lean very right wing tea partyish, and the only piece of legislation that they did pass which seemed to be related to ferguson had to do with putting a cap on the [ audio difficulties ] >> that's important. but are you telling me that right-leaning tea party types in missouri, who are part of the legislature don't recognize the need for change beyond that
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one bill? >> according to the activity from last session, yes, that's exactly what i would have to tell you. they tend to want to side with the police officers. there was a lot of politics that took place. so it was not very friendly to actually helping to solve the issues that came out of the unrest in ferguson. >> so diane, one more for you. i remember ali velshi giving us a profile of ferguson, and it was bleak, and i suspect that the picture for african-americans, and morer particularly for african-american men isn't much better a year later. >> tony, we don't know the specifics about the unemployment rate in ferguson, but in st. louis, for african-americans, it's 13 and a half percent, and whites, it's closer to 5%. and the problem in ferguson,
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you have a lot of mom and pop shops, and we talked recently to businesses, and they said that sales are up 40-60% from a year ago, and because of that, they have not been able to hire. so it makes the unemployment situation there that much harder. >> and there's a hole in the budget as well, right? >> yeah. the budget is about 2 and a half million dollars less than a year ago, and that's because of the reduced fines, and of course the sales tax revenue. >> diane, appreciate it. diane eastabrook, reporting this weekend. and patricia bynes, thank you for being on the program. a candlelight vigil will be held tonight to mark three years since the wisconsin sikh temple shooting. a white supremacist opened fire at the sikh temple. six were killed, four others injured. and a police officer shot the
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gunman, but the gunman ultimately killed himself. after 500 days, what the authorities call conclusive proof of air asia.
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>> a major break through in malaysian flight 3 0. the wing found on reunion island was part of the 77 boeing. for the past 15 months, the families of the passengers and crew have worried and cried over an airliner that apparently disappeared without a trace, but finally, confirmation that a piece of wreckage found on an island did come from that flight. >> today, 515 days since the plane disappeared, it is with a very heavy heart that i must tell you that an international
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team of experts have conclusively confirmed that the aircraft debris found on reunion island is indeed from mh370. >> reporter: the part washed up on the island in the indian ocean last week. the french military and aviation sent it for examination, where the malaysian authorities looked at it before a prosecutor in paris delivered their findings. >> in the expert's view, we can say today that there are very strong presumptions that it belonged to mh70 for two reasons. it is ked that it came from a boing 777.
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and malaysian airlines communicated technical issues on the flight. the families, even before the announcement was made, some said that the discovery would not bring closer. >> it doesn't mean that it has been fully discovered. there must be more. one piece isn't enough at all. >> it's not the end, though they found something. it's not the end. and they still need to find the whole plane. we still want them back. >> reporter: delivering on the wish to find the whole aircraft will be incredibly difficult. a six-week air and sea search for it found nothing, and even if more parts wash up, getting definitive answers could prove impossible. >> a voter i.d. law said that
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it vitals the voting rights act. the bill was passed in 2011 and requires them to show photo i.d. opponents of the law argued that it was discriminatory and argued for minority voters. republican presidential candidates face-off at the first big debate tomorrow. >> but there are 17 contenders for the nomination. those hosting the debate had to narrow it down. which was caused questions. >> reporter: making the cut. squaring off in thursday's prime time gop debate, the top ten republicans for the nomination determined by -- >> polls. >> a yardstick that this seasoned pollster finds troubling. >> it's a bad use of public polls, which are supposed to measure public opinion, and not get involved in determination of eligibility for a debate. >> leading off, the director of
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the maris institute, which crafted the maris poll questions, so they could not be used to determine which gop hopeful would get the top debate spot. >> polls are all by definition an estimate. a range, a margin of error, and we're making real distinctions and bigging distinctions where there are no statistical differences. >> polls are not pinpoint precise, they have a margin of error, usually a few percentage points, so if somebody has a rate ability reading of 6%, it could be as high at 9. and put that on ten candidates vying for a spot in a debate, and the percentage could be none at all. >> we will host the first presidential candidate debates of the 2016 campaign season. >> fox news narrowed the field
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of 17 candidates to ten by averaging five national polls asking voters who they would choose if the primary were held today. but ask about favorability or which candidate that the voters lean toward, and the final ten is different. >> people like rick perry, and he stores higher than rand paul, and he scores more popular, but he's not in the debate. >> using polls to determine debate eligibility drove gop candidates to do things like this. >> i'm trying to kill the tax code. >> to pump up their profile and their polling numbers. >> we will watch the debate like everybody else, but i think it is incredible that the polls are in the mix.
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>> push back, the fcc will reveal private companies' pay gap between the ceosms and the rest of the employees. i can't wait for this one. >> you wouldn't guess that it would be as contentious as it is. there are no rules on how much you pay your ceo. the fcc adopted a rate today. and corporate america universally hates it. they were broken down by party lines. democrats were in favor of the rues, and republicans didn't like t companies must report their ceo pay as a ratio of what rank-and-file workers are paid. they will do that with compensation to the median pay of the company. this is on both sides, because ceos get direct pay, but often the bonuses and the perks add up to more and are complicated. a lot of the companies have
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salaried workers and contractors and freelancers, so it's hard to figure out what. but the fcc is imposing it on working corporate america. this has been in the works for five years now, since the dodd/frank laws filed for it. but they are not talking about how much they pay the executives. it's weird, they have to close it in the public filings, and if you did the math, you woulding figure it out but they don't want that number out there. so the fcc got 300,000 comments on the proposed rule, for and against. the companies asked them to exclude foreign workers. many companies have been offshoring them and paying them less. you have a big part of your workforce in the philippines and china, and emerging growth companies, which means smaller companies, worth $1 billion or
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less in revenue will be exempt. >> can you imagined numbers? what kind of pay gaps are we talking about here, ali? >> they're big. biggest put the ratio between 3375 to 1. so the ceo earns between 3375 times what the average worker earns. some companies voluntarily disclose their pay gap. a gas firm in texas paid their ceo80 times more. and whole foods pays their workers 19 times what a typical worker gets. but corporate america doesn't want you and me having this conversation. we won't just compare ceo pay, but we're going to compare what people actually earn. starting in 2017 is when we'll
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see the numbers. >> share with me what else is on the run down. >> this one you want to see. tonight, we're looking at cyber vulnerabilities in cars that we drive. today's cars have something like 10 million lines of computer code in them. and many of the electronics can be accessed remotely, and critics charge that the auto industry is not taking this seriously. how hackers were able to get into a car and commandeer it with a driver in the driver's seat. >> you can watch ali velshi on n target. >> 7ing years ago this month, hurricane katrina slammed into new orleans, and today, the city continues to rebuild. a hospital. and what was done to survive a similar storm and service the
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community. >> this is the healthcare for the region. so it functions as the only level one trauma center for the region. >> also helping parents of newborns. movements sweeping across big business, allowing parents to take weeks and up to a year off. why maternity leave isn't law in this country. plus, lost, the literary community is abuzz with a new story from f. scott fitzgerald. 8,000 word story. all of that and more in 3 minutes. >> and finally, a turkish couple welcomed had thousand syrian refugees to their wedding feast using money that their families had raised to feed displaced families. the bride and groom worked behind the counter of the food truck, serving the refugees.
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more than 4 million syrians have fled the country because of the civil war, many staying in camps across the border in turkey. thanks for watching, and john seigenthaler is back in a couple of minutes.
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>> hi everyone, this is al jazeera america. i'm john siegenthaler. malaysia mystery. >> an swrcialt tea internationaf experts have confirmed that the depreis from mh370. >> plane debris is linked to missioning mh370, what it could reveal about the last moments. hiroshima.