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the mind and hands. it will run until september 27. a quick reminder, you can keep up to date with all the news on our website, there it is on your screen. the address, www.aljazeera.com. that's www.aljazeera.com. market slammed. what is next for a brutal friday for your investments who is an american, the term birth right citizenship is loaded with controversy, especially among some republican candidates running for president in 2016. before we start debating rights granted to natural born
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citizens, let's refer to the law of the land. the constitution states all persons born or nationalized in the united states and subjects to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens of the united states, and of the state wheren they reside period. listening to presidential candidates, you get the impression that many of them think that granting automatic citizenship to people born in this country is un-american. >> it makes no sense right now, that millions come illegally to this country, and that the law grants citizenship. >> i don't think they have american citizenship, and if you speak to some good lawyers, many will e agree, they do not have
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american citizenship. >> for a woman to be pregnant and say i'll go to the united states and have my baby there, so i have an anchor, that is stupid. if they came over and did that. we can keep them together, package them up and send them back anchor baby is the term battered around on the campaign trail. for some, it describes those that immigrate and give birth so they can ensure uncitizenship for their child. to others, it's a derogatory term targetting hispanic communities. mexicans make un the largest pool by far of undocumented immigrants in this country, numbering 11 million. how the 14th amendment is interpreted, it's clear. the u.s. constitution gives them the right to claim u.s. citizenship.
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in a birth right battle. advocates say a growing number of children are denied birth certificates. country. >> reporter: an american flag flies outside the hospital where this baby was born two years ago to an undocumented mother. the mother arrived us not to use -- asked us not to use the family's last name or show cases. >> he was a warrior from birth. she pend spent 20 days in intensive care. she fought for her life then, i am now. >> after broken brought to the u.s. as a child, she had two ordinarily children with no problem getting birth certificates. at the time birth terrive kate records were good enough. >> when he returned to the vital
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statistics office this year to get a birth certificate for her youngest daughter, the same documents didn't work. >> they told her that it was no longer valid. the state of texas is now making it impossible for most undocumented parents to get a birth certificate by requiring documents they can't get. documents like a driver's licence, which the state refused to. or a foreign passport with a valid u.s. visa. it was not always like this. a slow shift in state policy began in 2008. they could no longer accept it. the policy - it wasn't strictly in force when an unprecedented number crossed to texas. and as the state launched a lawsuit on the actions.
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>> influx of immigrants, families, mothers and children coming in. it was then that dozens of undocumented personalities steeking a birth certificate complaining of turning away. >> what are the kids going to do. they are u.s. citizens, that's outrageous and discriminatory for me. >> the cornerry represents 32 children and 28 immigrant parents. just like everyone else that has children born in the u.s. they have a right to a birth certificate. they can enrol them, they can baptise them and do all sorts of things that every parent gets to do, but not these parents. only because of their status. >> i ask what is wrong if the
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policy works to persuade the crossers. she understands the controversy, but her daughter shouldn't pay. >> without a birth certificate the mother is having trouble enrolling in day care, and the child was almost turned away by a doctor. what's going to happen if she's in an emergency. her. >> they were denied a birth certificate. they didn't respond to the request for comment. they went in search of answers in person. >> they asked why the office denied birth certificate. >> this is the state office, we follow the state rules. the u.s. constitution - i understand. the u.s. constitution says anyone born in this country... >> the eden burg secretary took
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the questions. >> reporter: are you aware most of the people that try to use it are undocumented immigrants who had children born here, and are u.s. citizens, and they are denied the service. >> no, i'm not aware of that. when an applicant comes, we request the situation. that is required by the state. >> tex was asked a judge to dismiss the lawsuit. arguing that the state can't be pursued. they decline to speak on camera. they wrote: the immigrants lawsuit asks for another way for undocumented parents to prove the identity.
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accepting a passport without a u.s. visa. it's an internationally accepted form. whether you have it, it is relevant for identification purposes of the passport. the court is considering whether to dismiss the case or allow it to move forward. she should have the same rights as a child born to persons. since she's too young to fight for herself, i'll fight for her. as the first day of school approaches, she may be denied enrol. in preschool. >> heidi zhou-castro joins us now. what is at the heart of the lawsuit. is it connected to the 14th amendment idea? >> well, the state has been kind of tiptoeing around that idea. another not actually denying that the children are u.s. citizens, but the policy of not giving them birth certificates
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should be against the constitution. the state is not addressing that question. they are arguing on jurisdictional grounds. >> donald trump climbs in saying granting citizenship to children of undocumented immigrant is unconstitutional. i saw the discussion you were getting into with the municipal it. >> that's right. i'm glad you read the constitution, it says all parents born in the country are u.s. citizens, there's not much grey area, those that support donald trump's statements are pointing to win this amendment - when it was passed, after the slaves were free, and was intended to protect the rights of black former slifs. slaves. they argue the intentions were miz interpreted. >> coming up, aisle talk to one former congressman who tried to abolish citizenship, but failed.
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he's not a lobbyist, but i'll
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donald trump did not invent the idea of abolishing birth right citizenship in america, he gave it new light. the idea has been around for decades. there's a bill in congress denying citizenship for children born in the united states, unless one of their parents was a citizen, permanent lawful resident or noncitizen serving in the armed forces. this is the latest in a string of similar builds. among them the birth right citizenship october of 2011. former congressman dr gingry.
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he supports abolishing birth right citizenship. good to see you again. >> in 2010, you wrat that lawmakers that ratified the 14th amendment in 1868 couldn't predict the cot that anchor babies give. the cato institute found that changing the citizenship cause will cost households 2.4 billion a year to verify the birthplace of civilians. les talk about the economic sense of this. how does it make economic sense. before we get into that, let me correct a couple of things we said, that i was a lobbyist. i'm not a
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lobbyist. i have time out of a year before i can, if i decide to become a lobbyist. you said i have not given up the fight. i'm not really involved in the fight. i'm no longer a member of congress, but i was asked and accepted by al jazeera u.s.a. to give comments and opinions on the issue. it's an important issue. i have not changed the opinion. when we introduced a bill to eliminate citizenship. 1868, of course, when the 14th amendment was ratified. it's a misinterpretation. it's clearly a misinterpretation born. there's no mention of the word illegal, and in 1868 there were
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no immigration laws, and we were becking people, come one and all, from all across the world to come and expand into the western territories of the united states, they were given free land. immigration. >> let me ask you this. you make a good point. >> people that support fiddling with the 14th amendment. all persons born or naturalized in the united states, subjected to the jurisdiction there of are citizens of the united states. let's talk about a 1982 supreme court ruling, leading no plausible distinction can be drawn between resident aliens whose entry into the united states was lawful, and resident aliens whose entry was unlawful. this speaks to what you were saying, that the supreme court considered what you said and
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ruled that we can't make the distinction now, or in 1982, because the constitution... >> you may be referring to a footnote that justice brennian made at the time but the supreme court, we know makes darn, imperfect decisions. i want to illuminate them. at this time it would not permit that. in the 14th amendment in section five, it says that the congress has the authority to write law regarding any of these sections, the four sections of the 14th amendment. we don't need a constitutional amendment. we need congress to act, and that is why i, and former congressman and governor of the great state of georgia, nathan deal introduced h.r. 1868 to say, in very, very smifl, under
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what provisions it would be united states citizens, but the 14th amendment never said anything about illegal immigration, and we all know it was about elimination of slavery, given everybody equal protection under the law. >> let's talk about... >> voting rights. that was the first. voting rights act. >> let's talk about equal protection. many experts say historical and constitutional records show that the only people meant to be excluded from efforts to eliminate birth right citizenship tended to be his panics. mexicans. in fact, the law was designed - not designed. the way it's applied. if you are a child of a diplomat serving in the united states, or you were the child born of an alien enemy during a hostile occupation, if you don't become
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a citizen of the united states. are you worried this becomes something that targets hispanics. >> no, you mentioned immigration law that existed. but i would absolutely be opposed to that. i would not target hispanics, i'd go to church with many great hispanics, and someone mentioned earlier that they were denied baptism and the opportunity to go to public school system. nothing could be further from the truth. no, to discriminate against one area of the world, one country, one section, no, absolutely, i think that elimination of birth right citizenship should apply to all illegal immigrants who come though this country and have children. it's created a cottage industry, this birth tourism where rich
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wealthy people from all over the world, whether it's russia, china or whatever continent that it happiness to be, and the last month of pregnancy, and put on an exclusive condominion. >> that's not the part that's wrecking the economy. they are coming in with money. >> you talked about it. let me go back to this. back in 2013, the white house said granting a path to citizenship to 11 million undocumented workers would inceest their wages and boost g.d.p. by 1.4 prilion, and income for all americans, generating 184 billion in additional state and taxes. and add about 2 million jobs to
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the u.s. economy. i know you say that's the white house's numbers, if you discount that? >> you make a good point. i will say this, if we can come to an agreement recollects we republicans, former member myself, and the democratic party with a comprehensive immigration reforms, and i think we should, i'll be opposed to amnesty. i think donald trump had good inside in regard to - there were things that mike proposed, the governor of indiana. when he was a long term member of the his of representatives. they are things that we can do. if we ellism nate birth right citizenship, and make everify mandatory. if we establish an entry, exit system and beef up ice, if we agree that those that have been
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here illegally how long, if they are bad guys, they are talking about felons, criminals, some of the things, we deport them immediately and let the others stay, not necessarily to grand citizenship, they should go home and do it the right way. most have not. they are good people. if the democrats agree to that. and agree to the things that i suggested, including one last thing, why let a million immigrants across the world come into the country every year, no matter the employment rate. that makes a lot of sense. if we have an 11% unemployment rate. if we bring in a million, mill to one every year. >> i'll ask you to come back to discuss the unemployment rate. it's a pleasure for joining me,
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thank you. >> a former republican congressman, a senior advisor for the district policy group. next - two questions in the ugly stock market sell off, why and
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it was bounds to happen. for the last six years, the u.s. stock market enjoyed a bull run.
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during that time investo, shrugged off concerns. the russian invasion, crisis in greece. some things cannot be ignored by investors, one is china. the dow jones industrial average plunged 530 points, 3.1%. the selling widespread. the broader s&p. >> and the nasdaq dropped more, the biggest one day percentage drop. the dow is now down 10% from its all-time high. that is considered a correction. one, by the way, that some say is overdue. investors are growing concerned about developments in china, starting when china devalued its currency. it accelerated when word came out that the manufacturing segment fell to a low. it fuelled speculation that the flal reserve worried about how the slowdown could affect the global economy.
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on top of all that is falling oil prices. oil falling below $40 a barrel, before recovering, it's nearly 25% below the price at the start of the year, and less than half it was a year ago. >> week demand is the catalyst, signalling the global economy may be losing steam. good tos those buying gas, but not the rest of the world. the question to be pondered is whether the selling is a summer storm that will pass or whether there's something fundamentally wrong. joining me the u.s. managing director. joining us from her officers, jillian, what do you make of this? >> the question is whether that's a quick summer storm or a changing of the seasons. >> what is really concerning now is that they have a sense that something nasty is happening in china, growth is slowing, but they can't quite tell what is happening. there's so
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much about the china economy that is almost as opaque as a subprime mortgage c.e.o.s that take the market in geften, 2008. and there's a chain effect, a ripple effect worrying people. look at the issue of people, dipping below $40 a barrel. it's good for consumers, bad for the energy companies, and has a financial impact. it leant money, and raided a host of the geopolitical concerns. things like can o.p.e.c. stay together. what will happen to countries, big oil producing countries, and how will they impact the global market. after the market closed. analysis came out, there's a number of people saying relax. this market has been on a bull run for most markets. it's not unhealthy for the pull back to happen. to my mind, summer markets, in
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august, tend to be so thin, because traders are out on the beach, and act like a toddler having a tantrum every five msents, they go up, down, have sugar highs. they have been building for some time about where the global economy is going. >> if you step back, for a long time the markets, countries like china provide a source of growth for the global economy. japan is going nowhere, and the u.s. recovery is strongish, not strong enough to power the world by itself. the issue now is people are questioning the u.s. recovery, about whether it can keep growing indefinitely and realising the emerging markets in general, and china, is not there to be a new mode for growth for the global economy. >> you and i having worked through the last financial
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crisis know it's not a simple matter for final journalists to tell everyone just relax. is this a turning point likely fall of swathe. what happens when people ask you should i be worried at this point. the issue is the overall global economy is growing, not as we hoped, but is growing. the year's economy had plenty of right spots. many have said for a long time that the stock markets in the u.s. had a run ahead of themselves. corporate earnings haven't been amazingly good for some time. they were climbing and climbing. maybe what we are seeing is people saying "well, i felt uneasy about how things were growning, it's almost an excuse to get real again. the problem is we don't know what the economic fundamentals
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are now given the ongoing mysteries about the state of china. >> the u.s. managing editor of 'financial times'. pleasure to see you. >> that's our show for today, i'm ali velshi, thank you for joining us. >> "inside story" takes you beyond the headlines, beyond the quick cuts, beyond the sound bites. we're giving you a deeper dive into the stories that are making our world what it is. >> ray suarez hosts "inside story". only on al jazeera america. ♪ ♪ for weeks one of the republican candidates for president was dismissed as unelectable, a side show act. a nonfactor in the race likely to be gone before the first

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