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>> hi everyone, this is al jazeera america. i'm john siegenthaler. nuclear deal. president obama secures the votes needed for the pact with iran. >> i support this deal with my eyes wide open, aware of its flaws as well as its potential. >> but is it the right path to peace? human toll. >> i will sleep in the streets. i just want to go out of here. >> desperate, displaced and
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dying. tonight a closer look at the growing refugee crisis. cold cash. we'll take you live to alaska on the front lines to push for oil and the battle to stop it. plus dawn of a revolution. we talk to acclaimed documentary film maker stanley nelson about his new documentary on the black panthers. >> the panthers started as a protest, as a way to try to get rid of police violence. >> and their significance today. the nuclear agreement with iran now appears to be all but done. today senator barbara mikulski came out in support of it. the maryland democrat's announcement gives the white house the votes it needs to withstand a challenge. jamie mcintire has more.
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jamie. >> as you said he needed those 34 votes to make sure that any veto he issues, sticks. and now it appears assuming nobody flips that the iran deal will survive the relentless attack by its opponents. you wouldn't have known it from the full throated defense delivered by secretary of state john kerry in an hour long speech in philadelphia. but the obama administration appears to have won its battle with congress over the iran nuclear deal. the announcement by maryland democrat barbara mikulski gives the president enough votes in the senate to uphold his promised veto of any bill to kill the multinational agreement. assuming nothing happens to make any of the senators reconsider. kerry's main argument, it's not just a good deal, it's a done deal because there can be no going back to the bargaining table. >> it is clear if we reject this
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plan the multilateral sanctions regime will start to unravel, the pressure on iran will lessen and our situation will diminish if not disappear. >> many democrats indicated they were holding their nose while picking the lesser of two evils. senator mikulski says no deal is perfect especially one negotiated with the iranian regime but i have escalated thid this is the best deal to avoid a nuclear bomb. (f) the major opponent, israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu. he ties back seat to no one in support of israel's security. >> while i respectfully disagree
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with mr. netanyahu about the benefits of the agreement, i do not question for a minute the basis of his concern or that of any israeli. >> but that conciliatory message was undercut somewhat by an e-an account run by the white house from twitter. >> why where should a red line be drawn? a red line should be drawn right here. before before iran completes the second stage of nuclear enrichment necessary to make a bomb. >> the tweet from the @the iran deal account, shows this is where it looks now, with the progress towards a bomb at zero percent, with the fuse snipped
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by a pair of scissors. >> that would ensure that a filibuster could prevent any republican backed measure of disapproval from even getting to the desk of the presidents, thus preventing him from having to use his veto pen. >> thank you, jamil jaffer, george mason school of law. in washington tonight. jamil, first of all a lot of people are calling this a win for the president. is it? >> thanks for having me. i don't think it is a win for president. what is also clear is the house and the senate will disprove this deal, with bipartisan support. >> okay but it still would go through right? if he vetoes it then it's over. >> that's right.
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but what's interesting about that is, john, there's bipartisan majorities in both houses opposed and we have a presidential election coming up in november of next year. it is very possible the next president will walk away from this deal. the republicans are going to see it and thus not implement this until next year after the election. >> you think they'll wait until after the election before they implement the deal? >> i would think that you should step carefully because in less than a year the deal will be gone. wait, seize what happens in the election, and then wait to implement i if you are a europen country. >> what would a good deal look like? >> john at every turn in these negotiations we have walked away from our red lines. we said no enrichment, they are going to enrich.
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don't open fordo, they are going to leave fordo open. i agree with john mccain. >> this problem doesn't go away if there's no deal right? >> that's right. the iran nuclear problem is a real one. but the sanctions are working. it brought them to the table and will bring them back to the table. there will be a better deal to be had. it is that this administration didn't have the credibility to walk away, and they didn't. >> jamil, thanks so much. >> thanks again john. >> greece has become the prime gateway for refugees from syria's civil war and other refugees. tens of thousands of people have landed on the country's eastern islands. others have died trying to reach them including at least 12 more today. the new plan also extends support for island communities struggling to keep up. in hungary, hundreds of refugees
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protested for a second day. they've been blocked from boarding trains to germany. frustrations are running high. in the capital of budapest descrimedz haandrew simmons has. >> next minute riot police had moved to the scene forming a line and scuffles broke out. this isn't the police tried to calm this down, it's the demonstrators them, the police are standing by, but it's coming closer and closer to direct conflict. no police they clante chanted, r group tries to form another line between police and the refugees. eventually the police pushed forward clearing the road and the demonstrators backed off. it didn't come to all out confrontation.
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throughout wednesday, protests had been getting longer. hungarian railway staff had been ordered not to sell tickets to anyone without visas or the white passport for their destination. it is excruciating for these families having to sleep on a walkway, hoping that the policies would change. that seems more and more unlikely. one level down from the station's main approach this is called a transit zone. it's been in place since the crisis began but never been as full. >> i will stay here in this station. i will don't move i will stay here. i will sleep in the street. i just want to go out of here. >> we do not make us to go to by train, we'll see another way. >> what he means by other ways is being smuggled across the border. although he wasn't sure if he
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could afford that option. there are warnings of the hungarian government's hard line on refugees will only encourage more people smuggling. >> this is absolutely clear they do not want to stay in hungary. they want to go to west european union countries and if the authorities here prevent them from leaving the country they will opt for the services of human smugglers. >> this is going to keep popped obviously these people shouldn't be there. again following european protocols after being apprehended at the border at illegal migrants, they have designated spaces where they should stay and wait. while their cases are being judged. >> many say they have been through worst danger and hardship than this. andrew simmons,ing lnlz,, al ja,
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budapest. >> most europeans favor taking in refugees and more countries need to step up. >> proportionately every european country needs to play its part and i think that's an important part. for every neonazi group, that is putting up a banner that says refugees welcome and there's a side to european identity that i think is very important to maintain and preserve. >> you can see more of antonio's interview with david milliband at 9:30. rowan county clerk kim davis continues to refuse to issue marriage licenses. >> you do not work in a religious institution.
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if you wish to discriminate you kindly -- >> we are not issuing marriage licenses today. i'm not discriminating because i'm not issuing licenses to anybody. >> diane eastabrook is in moorehead county with moor. diane. >> hi john. well later this afternoon kim davis asked that federal judge to delay that court order so she can appeal a decision relating to an injunction that the governor filed basically requiring her to issue those marriage licenses. kim davis has been defiant all these weeks and she's become a hero to some here in rowan county. >> hey hey ho ho, kim davis has got to go. >> before kim days of was at the epicenter of the battle for same sex marriage -- >> we love jesus how about you? >> she lived a life of little notoriety.
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following in her mother's footsteps ran rowan county's clerks office. she's the one that people go to to issue vehicle licenses and marriage licenses. her opponents said she was an unlikely candidate to take the stand on the sanctity of marriage. davis has been married four times, she gave birth to two children out of wedlock. in her community her neighbors largely support her. before her religious conversion four years ago, they say she has turned her life around. denver and karen collins live down the road. she issued their license in december. >> what do you think about the controversy of her and her office? >> i can't judge. but i hope she wins.
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>> yes. >> we're not to judge. that's the good lord does that. >> it was here in the solid rock apostolic church that her life changed. she went to a service to honor a dying wish from her mother-in-law years ago. i am forgiven and must be obedient to the word of god. pepper said davis used to babysit for her. >> she has always taught her kids to do the right thing. from day one that i knew her, it was, you should do the right thing. she's always been that. i do believe she's honest in everything she does. >> davis's attorney tells al jazeera, she is a woman with strict principles she i adheres to.
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>> violating her conscience is something she simply can't do. >> davis will be in court late tomorrow morning and a lot of people in rowan county hope this situation will finally be resolved. john. arctic drilling, possible environmental disaster. and police on trial protesters back in the streets of baltimore or the death of a man in custody.
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>> in alaska tonight president obama will become the first sitting president to travel north of the arctic circle. his visit is meant to highlight the impact of climate change in the region. in dillingham alaska he talked about the importance of protecting fishing in bristol bay. >> it also represents one of the most important natural resources that the united states has. this is one of the reasons why we have shut off oil and gas exploration in this region. it is too fragile and it is too important -- [applause] >> -- for us to be able to
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endanger it this any sort of way. >> the president will close his alaska trip with a visit to the northwest coastal village of cosaview. libby casey has been coverage this story and she's in anchorage again tonight. libby. >> john, president obama talked about protecting the bristol bay region from offshore drilling but he hasn't extended those same protections to northwest alaska and the arctic seas that border the village of cosaview. just this summer he approved arctic drilling for shell. that's getting mixed reviews from the communities in alaska. a way of life for thousands of years. >> we survive off our land and we have values that we use as foundation for who we are. and a lot of it is a respect for
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like nature respect for elders. >> the people of cosaview alaska. continuing their heritage even as their village modernizes. 69-year-old pete schaefer shaves alder bark. >> major shift in our traditional activities. >> schaefer's native village oppose offshore drilling but now the focus is shifted to making it safe. many here sees it impossibity. >> why do you think it's hard to clean up an oil spill up here. >> the difficulty of what we're talking about to try to ambiguity any oil spill in ice conditions, that's just not happened before. >> locals remember the exxon
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valdez spill in 1989. prince william sound is more than 600 miles away but take that disaster and put it in the arctic's icy waters. >> if an oil spill were to take place before freeze up, if the ocean freezes up it's pretty much game over until next summer. >> a place only reached by plane or boat when the unemployment rate is three times the national average opportunities are scarce. and if oil drilling is successful it could mean work and visitors. >> shell and conoco and other companies pump money into the communities through variation jobs and through the science department. >> the community makes decisions together but don't speak with one voice over oil drilling.
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>> i'm sure the economy could use it but the thing you think about is just my kids. >> that means making sure her kids can live off the land and sea. shell's exploratory drilling is stalled because of equipment problems. shell has only one month left before winter begins, another year for the people of the community to hunt and fish and think about the future. >> we have choices to make how we proceed in what we do. >> reporter: john alaska's state economy is dependent on the oil industry not just for jobs but to fill the state coffers. as a lot of oil has dried up flowing through transalaska oil pipeline, a lot of the funding has dried up. offshore drilling could be a big help but it could be a wake up
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call, this issue of a monoeconomy, a sign that alaska has to diversify its economy like a lot of other states in the thaition. nation. john. thank you lobby. the coast guard cutter healy is the only one operating. "techknow"'s phil torres reports. >> ice in the arctic as far as the eye can see. the only way through it is on this ship. the coast guard cutter healy. it is one of only two ice breakers in the united states built to handle polar ice. just as we're heading south another ship just 20 miles away is passing us heading north. it's the ivik, lead ship of the shell fleet that is bringing the polar pioneer to the chukchi
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sea. already preparing for the challenges ahead. it is his job to oversee research operations. >> up here you can't use a boom in the icy environment. it will cut the boom apart. we are looking at rov's that will go under the ice to say hey is there any ice there? >> how do oil spills and sea ice mix? what happens when the two are involved? >> if it does happen it's going to be a mess. it's going to be extremely challenging to separate the oil from that ice. ice will be somewhat like a sponge so you'll have a mix of oil covered ocean, oil covered ice and oil impregnated ice. >> "techknow" reached out to shell oil about their upcoming exploration drilling in the arctic. on the issue of oil spilled in ice shell answered through large
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scale research trials we've found that with the suite of tools available to us, arkts arc tested skimmers and booms, we can adequately recover oil from snow and slush. >> we'll have a full report on oil exploration in the arctic in the coming weeks on "techknow." >> shell believes they can recover oil from icy conditions. what does the coast guard say about it? >> it is tough to do. the coast guard have done two oil recovery operations in the past two years. both times it's been difficult. i'm curious to see what shell has done in the arctic environment. >> all right so if they don't get spilled oil out of the ice and winter hits then what?
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>> that's a big concern because once winter hits recovery efforts there, they're off. and then the spring will come and the melts and the ice drifts. so if there's oil in that ice and it starts to drift it's really difficult to predict where it's going to go. so that oil could end up well beyond the original spill point. >> it is a major problem or possibly to fix this. the oil response fleet where would that be based? >> that's a big question. my concerns, in the arctic, there is so little infrastructure for this. there's not a deep water port niche. they've got a lot of work to increase the capacities of the alaskan shore. >> phil good to see you. thank you very much, you can see more of phil's reporting this monday, "techknow" airs 6:30 eastern, 3:30 pacific.
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still lady, black lives matter, why some say it's struggling to find its voice. plus tapped out, soaring water bills in the city of flint, michigan, why it led to a class action lawsuit against the city.
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>> hi everyone, this is al jazeera america. i'm john siegenthaler. in custody. >> what do we want, justice, when do we want it? now. >> protests and an arrest in
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baltimore. hearings begin in the case of six officers charged in the case of freddy gray. water, it's too expensive. >> how are you supposed to live without water. it's sad, really sad. >> the battle in flint michigan over the most basic of necessities. >> momentum in the republican presidential race. ben carson has it. what a doctor and political newcomer is gaining ground. >> plus the black panthers. >> they started following the police around and policing the police and that's how the panthers began. >> we'll talk to the director of a stunning new documentary on race, poverty, and the police, that's all too relevant today. protestprotesters hit the streef baltimore today as six police officers appeared in court in the freddy gray case. at least one person was arrested
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one officer injured, inside the judge denied a motion to dismiss the cases against those officers. freddy gray died in april after suffering a severe spinal injury, after being trangz ported in a polictransportedin . paul beban takes a look at the black lives matter movement. >> spawned by a verdict in florida two years ago. >> we the jury find george zimmerman not guilty. >> when he was found not guilty from the shooting of black teenager trayvon martin, her venting of frustration on
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facebook. sharing ga garza's phrase, black lives matter. michael brown was shot dead by a white police officer. the movement gained steam as the nation bore witness to more deaths of unarmed black men at the hands of police. like eric garner in new york. >> i can't breathe. >> and freddy gray in baltimore. >> but activists say the roots of the fury and frustration run much deeper. >> black lives matter started not just with mike brown in ferguson, missouri. black lives matter didn't just start with trayvon martin, black lives matter didn't start with oscar brown. but with emmett till.
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>> the phrase black lives matter resonates much like black power or power to the people did a generation ago. officially black lives matter has some two dozen chapters and a new website on the way. >> black lives matter. this is a black lives movement. it is time to put black lives on the forefronts of the thoughts of all americans. >> but the movement seems to gain strength from decentralization. not by charismatic leaders but by countless organizers and social media. >> it is not a movement, it is a movement upwards. people becoming a leader in their own right.
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>> as the 2016 presidential campaign ramps up black lives matter activists have been confronting candidates on both sides. demanding they address police killings, profiling, excessive force and other problems in law enforcement. >> you're going to have to come together as a movement and say, here's what we want done about it. >> others like south carolina governor nikki haley say the strienlviolence that exoins thee protests. >> there are times when the violence boils over. >> this is an issue of survival. we're seeing regularly, the slaying of black bodies which is
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pretty much genocide. what we are seeing is a resistance to this mechanism of the state that's continuing to kill us. >> paul beban, al jazeera. >> now to texas and a police killing caught on camera there. the video shows gil ber flores apparently putting his hands in the air as two deputies opened fire. a second shooting has not yet been released, it's being analyzed. it appears to show flores holdinholding a knife. the 911 message has been released, on it it says, the suspect is threatening suicide by cop. schools were closed in the community of fox lake. a vigil planned in honor of a 30 year police veteran charles
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gliniewicz. asking for help. >> many of these cases, not just officer involved homicides but homicides in general are greatly assisted by public information. and all it takes is one tip or good lead to break a case wide open. >> gliniewicz was shot to death early tuesday while chasing two suspects. he was a medal of valor recipient. many poor paying some of the highest water bills in the state, after complaints and class action lawt lawsuits, a je has ordered the rates be lowered. bisi onile-ere is there. bisi. >> john, slight reduction of water bills for the city, the
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complaints go far beyond the rate like. there are also concerns about health. >> how are you supposed to live without water? it's sad, it's really sad. you have people around here living like third world or whatever you know? >> carrie nelson considers herself lucky. others have gone for months without running water. the city raised rates by 35% in 2011 just months before the state took over the struggling city's finances. >> i'm either going to let the house go or i'm going to move in with somebody, you know? it's sad, that's what's happening, i understand people when they leave they have to do something the best for them. >> nelson who is 64 and lives on a fixed income, used to pay $30 a month. now she pays nearly $200 and can
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barely afford the bill. >> i blame the city councilmen and the mayor. they are the ones who are supposedly running the city. >> flint is a community of predominantly black residents. nelson is among 30,000 people who joined a class action lawsuit against the city. >> i live in the city and i have a disregard for people violating their own ordinances and especially when it has such a widespread impact on the people in the city of flint. >> attorney val washington is leading the case. he says it's estimated that nearly a third of the people here are delinquent on their bills. some have lost their homes because of it. >> people had to make decisions whether or not to eat, whether or not to pay their consumers energy utility bills, gas and electric, pay their mortgage or pay their water bill. >> on tuesday the city
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responded. >> we are complying with the judge's order. water and sewer rates will be lowered for the coming bills, that will provide some relief for our customers. >> flint is now cutting water bills $20 a month, a 22% reduction, that falls short of the judge's order to cut by 35%. >> what is your response that this is not low enough? >> unfortunately, there is an old system. it has a lot of problems. and it's an expensive one to operate. >> reporter: flint recently emerged from its financial emergency but some estimate cutting water rates could force cuts in other services. but flint's water woes go beyond the bottom line. the city began drawing water from the flint river about a year and a half ago and the quality of the city's water has been under scrutiny ever since. hundreds of residents have
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complained about how their water tastes and smells. >> you know i've created a term. i call it the flint watergate 2015. >> tests have revealed expensive amount o --excessive amount of . some residents have reported health problems. >> we're paying the highest price in probably the state for the worst quality of water and this is a song we've been marching about. we've been protesting about. >> really i would like for them to sit down and get real and just tell us the truth. like they say, the truth will set you free. we need to know what's going on. >> reporter: as residents like nelson push for financial relief from high water bills city lawyers caution that any more reductions could eventually lead to flint's financial collapse.
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and right now, it's unclear just how long this rate reduction will last. i know that the city's attorneys have reached out to the court of appeals and have asked them to get involved. no word yet on whether that decision could come down. john. >> bisi, thank you. in puerto rico, the state owned water company reached an agreement. the deal would save some $670 million in principal and $700 million in interest payments. their hopes it could inspire similar deals with other state agencies. in june puerto rico said it could not pay, $72 billion in debt. meanwhile a health crisis is unfolding on that island and the financial crisis is making it worse. jonathan betz is in san juan with more, jonathan. >> well john of all of puerto rico's problems somewhere in this crisis could be the most painful.
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fundings has been cut, doctors are leaving. health care is suffering. residents here say, although puerto rico is part of the u.s. it is not treated as such. for dr. miguel s association ofsa practicing medicine is really an act of charity. most of his patients rely on puerto rico's medicaid and it hasn't paid him he says in months. owing him $200,000. >> it's a problem because i need to pay to the doctor to the nurse to the rent, the lights, telephone. water. you know. >> a staggering number of people here, two million, more than half the population rely on medicaid or medicare and the island simply can't afford it. for years puerto rico has been borrowing to pay the bills and now owes $200 million. >> is it fair that the doctors are not getting paid?
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>> it goes beyond fairness. it goes to the fact that my principles doesn't allow me to owe people money. >> and it clearly bothers you personally. >> of course. i for me, that's something sacred. if you owe somebody, you pay. period. >> even though puerto rico is aa part of the u.s. the rules here are different. decades ago, congress capped medicaid for the territories. they say they are only paid around $3.5 billion a year. they have to cover the rest themselves. whereas american states get billions of dollars from the federal government. >> we pay the same soacialt. wsocialsecurity, we pay the same medicare tax. we want to receive the same benefits from what we are
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paying. >> so what does fair treatment look like to you then? >> in the case of medicaid, treatment as mississippi. that's all we ask. treatments as the lowest jurisdiction you have. >> to get by, puerto rico got a $6 billion grant to keep the operations running. that's expected to run out a year early. could force the island to drop close to a million people from medicaid. >> the reality is things in puerto rico are going to get worse before they get better. >> the pain has already been felt. prices are rising and thousands of doctors are threef leaving te island. >> you only have two nurses per floor, you go to a doctor's office and now there's 40 people already waiting when you get there. there's not going to be transportation support and
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everything is going to get a little more difficult. >> astrid has payment for doctors, many won't accept credit cards. >> you want to feel better, you're not buying something for you. >> reporter: at 64 years old, dr. sosa says he's to vested to leave and two committed to deny patients. >> are you still going to have medicaid coverage? >> yes. >> even though you're not getting paid for it? >> patients need medicine. and you can't reject this patient because he needs. >> still practice being on an island with a lot of needs. 20% of puerto rico's economy reliance on the health care
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industry. which people worry the smallest cuts have the biggest impacts, john. >> thank you jonathan. the first ballot in the 2016 presidential election will be cast in less than five months. the iowa caucus. on the republican side it's anyone's game. the race has turned in to a race between donald trump and ben carson. first poll since july to show trump without a clear lead, jeannie zano is a professional of campaign management at new york university. donald trump and ben carson allow is it that these two guys are neck and neck? they couldn't be more different but are they? >> in terms of message they are very similar. they are outsiders,
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antiestablishment, incredibly successful in their individual careers. but die me diametrically oppose. ben carson is very quiet mild mannered, self effacing, never attacks, didn't get attacks. that is completely different from donald trump. yet you seize ben carson neck in neck against donald trump and second in south carolina. >> what about carly fiorina? >> 60% of the vote goes to nonestablishment nonpoliticians. it goes to how frustrated people are with insiders, washington and politicians. i would caution people to look at these polls very skeptically at this point. people don't commit who they're going to vote for until around
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new year's day. they may like fiorina, they may like carson but they are not fully committed to them. we are not as good in polling as we're four or eight years ago, for many reasons, including the rise in cell phones. the problem is they get so much media attention now that carson is coming up he's going to get a lot of media attention people start to support him and the polls for him will go up. it's kind of this endless cycle that is coming up pickup. >> it is like throw the bums out is that what this is? >> bernie sanders is coming up. we've heard that before. but when it comes down to it, the predicters who are going to be the nominees are
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establishment. >> do we get anything out of these polls that give us a sense that the voters care about particular issues? >> i think that's one of the most frustrating parts. you think about ben carson, what has he spoken about issue-wise? we heard him compare bowc obamae the worst thing since slavery, but from policies what is he talking about? that's not to take away from his aplaysing narrative. but issues wise, same thing for donald trump. >> build a wall. >> build a wall, get rid of the 11.5 million illegal immigrants. we don't know how, but if he says it it's going to happen. there is a sense among the public at this point, at least the pollsters are able to reach, they are not happy with the dysfunction in washington so we're hearing a lot about that.
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people haven't looked seriously at these candidates. once carson is out and gets vetted more completely, his poll numbers i think will dip. >> they have five months. >> that's a lifetime. jeannie, good to see you. coming up next, black panthers in a revolution. >> the panthers, a lot of people gravitate to martin luther king. >> i talk to director stanley nelson about his new ploif and d the movement that changed race relations in america.
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i. >> we get more now on david milliban. >> a lot of people suffering and it's really a big deal. david milliband was the u.k.'s foreign secretary, he now runs a
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gripe that helps displaced people worldwide. praising germany and other countries opening their doors. he also feels the u.s. should be doing more. >> america needs to step up as well. this is a crisis that is of course existing in europe, but america has taken 1444 syrians in total. america has been the global leader by refugee resettlement. but all of that is important if the burden is to be properly shared out. >> hear more of my interview with david milliband in the next-year-old, and what it will take for europe to get a hold on this crisis. >> thank you antonio . >> justice by many african
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americans. the black panthers is part of their link. the film called black panthers vavanguard of the american revolution. stanley nelson, i asked him why he decided to do the film. >> there is more than one answer to that question. one is a long time ago as a 15-year-old, the panthers came into being. i was living in narcos and they intrigued me like so many other people. all of a sudden here were these people that were walking around with a clenched fist were very aggressive and they had this look that was so cool. they had the big after row aftee sunglasses. i wanted to be like them. >> what did you say in the film? >> when i started to make the film there was owhole different story that emerged the panther story had never been told. the rise and fall of the panther movement, how young they were,
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how they were infiltrated by the government, how they were attacked by j. edgar hoover, how they fought with each other that helped destroy the party. i felt that whole story hadn't been told but also, it's such a sexy story there was this whole new look we hadn't seen before. >> free hughie. >> it begins to turn and the black panthers changed the dynamic, when hughie newton and bobby sale, how did that change the movement? >> you have to look at that as another movement. this is another side of the movement. the panthers were very aggressive. they came out of oakland, california and there was a law in california that said you could carry a loaded weapon in the open as long as it was in the open. and they started following the
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police around and policing the police. and that's how the panthers began. so it was kind of the real opposite of the nonviolent civil rights movement. and in some ways you know the panthers made people a lot of people in this country gravitate to martin luther king. they were like oh, maybe martin luther king isn't so bad! >> so how does this connect to the black lives matter movement that's sprung up and the reaction to police killings and shootings in communities all across america? >> well, i think one of the things that's happened is that the film is so relevant today. when we started the film seven years ago we thought it had a lot of relevance but it didn't have nearly the relevance that it has today. >> why? >> because the panthers started as a protest as a way to try to get rid of police violence. the same thing that we're dealing with today, 50 years later. the panthers had a ten point program, some of the points were an end to police violence.
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better housing, better schools, all of those things were things we are still talking about today. >> how is it we're still talking about it today so many years after the black panthers? >> part of the thing was those problems were never solved. they're still there. they were buried for a little while but the problems are still there. and, you know, we're right back now talking about it. i think if there's any good that can come of what's happened in the last year, year and a half, it's that we are talking about it. is that there are young people who are engaged in a way that they weren't two years ago. and i mean that's's a good thing i think to have young people who are involved and engaged. >> what do you want people to take away from your film? >> i want them to take away that the panthers were young. that they were young that they were teenagers and that they came out of nowhere and started this movement right or wrong good or bad it's something we're talking about 50 years later.
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>> the film is called the black panthers vanguard of a revolution. i'm looking forward to seeing it. thank you very much. >> thank you, it's to exciting. >> that's our broadcast, we thank you for watching. i'm john siegenthaler. see you tomorrow. antonio is next.
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