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aljazeera.com. ♪ >> desperate refugees fighting for the right to continue across europe and into germany. ♪ it is good to have you with us. this is some what we have coming up in the next 30 minutes. >> a former leader into ban da testifies at his war crimes trial. saying he never attacks civilians. guatemala's president in
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court, facing charges just hours after he quit. >> and china says lit cut it's army by 300,000 as it members the end of the second world war. europe continues to face an unprecedented humanitarian and political crisis. as more refugees continue to travel across the continent. that's according the the european commission vice president. in hungary, there have been scenes of chaos as police try to force refugees off a train, taken to buddhist to the austrian border. al jazeera was traveling with them. >> it was a day that started welation, refugees running through doors, that suddenly unexpectedly opened. they thought they were going to be bound for austria and germany, most of them with international tickets. they crammed into carriages. waiting patiently. but this train traveled for
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no more than an hour. and then this stop. >> where do you think it is going now. >> we don't know. >> we don't know. the refugees were convinced they had been duped and the police would take them to a nearby refugee camp. some jumped down on to the rail line, but police moved in, this father with his wife and toddler resists with all the force he could muster, attempts for the police to pull them away. it was happening enranged the other refugees eventually the family was taken away. >> gradually the situation turned from anger to subdued anxiety. what follows was a land stand off. the refugees posted notes chanting occasionally, no police, no camps. they say going on the train, you will go to austria. their bring us here.
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we don't know why. we don't need to stay in a camp or stay in hunger. >> not for the first time in his crisis there was confusion stressed and sheer exhaustion. and then the police moved again. >> these people have been here for more than two hours in a stand off. now it appears to be ending, because we are being forcibly ejected from the platform, we tried to stay here, we tried to board the train, these people are calling for us to get on the train or at least stay here, but as you can see, there is no way we can stay here, because we are being forcibly removed from the platform. >> but this stand offs han't ended the police ensure the media was away from the refugees but still within the station. six buss are parked nearby, and the refugees crammed into stuffy overheated carriages remain defiant, but powerless. al jazeera. in hungary. >> we have been reporting there's been a lot of
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criticism of the hung gain authorities in particular, of the prime minister. for not only building a fence to keep the refugees out, but what we have seen happening further up the track. we are going to talk to our correspondent in a moment. let me report this first. prime minister says he would consider supporting e.u. migrant quotas if he were made an office, so far he hasn't had one. we will investigate that further, a little bit later in the program. that only appearing just a couple of minutes ago. so no chance for mohammad my colleague who is in budapest at the station there to take it all in. made some other quite inflammatory comments during the course of the day. the refugees some of them have moved on.
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>> there are thousands of refugees here. you can see them a lot of them here behind us, holding up peace signs. they are trying to get their message across. they are asking for the e.u. to help them, and any way possible. in fact, if you can just pan over a little bit. we can't right now, but there's a crowd of syrians chanting once again, asking to be let on to trains. to try to go to companies like germany, there is so much anger today. many of the syrians that i have spoken with have said they can't understand why if the prime minister doesn't want them here, why he won't at the very at least let them get on trains to go somewhere else. and many of the refugees i have spoken with are so concerned now because of what happened earlier in the day, which you saw explained very well in andrews report. let me tell you, one again, right now you have several syrian refugees that are
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prompting the officials here they are raising their hand, many of them making peace sign gestures. they are asking once again to be able toe get on to trains to be able go to germany and go to hungary. they are sicking. these are peaceful demonstrators. many of them sitting outside this station, at 1 point, it looked like it could get tense, because more security officials came out. and they looked ready to confront the crowd, and the crowd appeared as if they are going to go in the station. now they are singing peaceful songs and asking to please be allowed to board trains so that they can finally move hungary. if i can also just throw you a soundbite, you heard earlier from prime minister, in which he had a message here in hungary, let's take a listen to that. >> please don't come. why you have to go from
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turkey to europe? turkey is a safe country. stay there. it is risky to come. we can't guarantee you will be accepted here. so morally, and from a human point of view. we represent -- we would not like to falsify the dreams of the people. we made clear, please don't come. >> >> now, again, i must add, that comment had been met with a lot of derrik from the refugees camps all around this station. and so many people have said, they just don't know what is going to happen next. it is such a dire situation. now you have many of these syrians that are begging to be able to leave hungary. one man said he can't believe he is in a situation now, where a few months ago he was does he recalling with barrel bombs and fighting for his life, now he is here, and he can't get to germany.
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david. >> thank you, that's mohammad in budapest. you may remember if you have been casting your eyes over news organizations front pages the picture, terrible picture of a drowned syrian boy, tiny boy, while his father has been telling that the harrowing journey that led up to the death of that little boy, and other members of his family. abdullah was one of thousands of refugees trying to make it from turkey to the greek island. here he is. >> we went into the sea for four minutes. and the captain saw the waves were so high, we steered the boat. he died into the sea and fled. i took over and started steering. the waves were so high, i took my wife and my kids in the arms and i realized they were all dead. >> the image of that man's son lying dead in the surf on
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a turkish beach has caused global outrage. it is adding to pressure on one the british prime minister on his stance of sharing refugees has been criticized by members of his own party. >> it was only every front page of every newspaper. a single photo that could change the debate. and put david cameron's tough stance under real pressure. on thursday, he said he was deeply moved by the image, and that the u.k. was aware of it's moral responsibilities. but he is seeing no immediate change. >> there isn't a solution to this problem. that simply about taking people. we need a comprehensive solution. the new government in libya, we need to deal with the problems in syria, i would say that the people responsible for these terrible scenes we see, are people most responsibility, are president asaad in syria, and the bumpers of isil and the criminal gangs that are running this terrible trade
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in people. woe have to be as tough on them. >> it is not clear yet whether a blanket change will lead in public opinion, but some feel a tipping point has come. >> slowly, that human side of this tragedy, is coming through to us. and glad in a way, because it means i hope, that we can begin to tackle this as a human crisis now. >> britain has only taken 5,000 syrian refugees since 2011, although it cames it spends over $1 billion a year in aid. great causes sometimes need iconic images. theism imagine may tell us nothing we didn't already know, but if we are beginning to feel worried, anxious, guilty, then a really heart wrenching image like that can
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change something in me, in the upper atmosphere of what i would call the national consciousness. and i think this picture, of the little dead child being brought ashore has done that. >> the british parliament reconvenes next week, and it may be then that david cameron really begins to understand the political temperature is rising on this issue. you have to listen very carefully to the increasing number within his own party that are called for change. >> david cameron has said he will keep the situation under review, what he does puts it on a level of political pressure, and cynics may say that will depend on whether elected politician feel the public attitude has really changed. al jazeera. >> the form con da lebanese rebel has told that he has
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never skilled a civilian. despite being accused of murdering at least 800. between 2002 and 3, speaking of the hague, he says his intention always was to protect people. barnabie phillips has been listening to his testimony, and has the latest. >> we herd from lawyers from the witness whose will be appearing later in this trial. and they painted a chilling picture, of moscow's militia is doing in eastern congo in 2002, to 2003. they spoke about the widespread rape of young girls in their teens, and they spoke about how some victims were forced to dig their own graves before being buried alive while distraught family members looked on. but later, we heard from bosco himself. we spoke calmly in sway healey. he said he did not recognize this picture of him which the
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prosecution was putting forward. he says he was a disciplined soldier, and he led men under strict command. this is what he had to say. >> i was in office. i have always fought with fearful uniform. i have never attacked civilians. i have always protected them. so what happens now? well, the your honor has adjourned, that'ses when we expect the first witnesses to appear, but all the experts are warning that this trial could can go on for years. gall ma la's president has been in court to face corruption charges. pros it cooers say he was
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involved in a scam. importers avoided paying customs duties in exchange for bribes. let's talk to daniel, live for us now in guatemala. the city i said the president had appears in court, i suppose if he has resigned he is the former president. but there appears to be some confusion over this. confusion may be, and thing are moving extremely fast. the immunity was only lifted on tuesday, the rest of the wants were issued on wednesday wednesday he was president, now he is appearing in court answering those charges. tomorrow he could be in prison. what is happening later today is the new president he will only be in office until january.
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so a lot going on. there's a demonstration behind me, outside the supreme court. where the ex-president is being heard. so a great deal of movement, every day. in the run up to these elections and beyond. very exciting times in guatemala. people are saying that change is eminent. they are fed up with the corruption. they want to see big changes in the country. there's no clear direction about where they are going, but they know those changes are eminent. thank you. still ahead here on al jazeera. the farmers converging on paris, demanding that the government do more to help them fight rising costs. blatche
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here in al jazeera.p stories the vice president says the continent facing an unprecedented humanitarian and political crisis. more refugees try to reach shores. here we can see hungary, budapest, chaotic scenes. trying to get refugees off a train. italy here, norwegian ship with more than 700 refugees. most of them from sub saharan africa. they are picked up off the coast on tuesday. in other news, the former rebel told his war crimes trial that he has never killed a civilian, despite being accused of murdering
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800 in 2002 and 3. we saw the pictures from the european's refugee crisis, let's bring in the united nations representative. something you wrote in today's financial times. which is rather than calmly handling an imminently manageable situation, the european leaders have made the continent appear incompetent, hysterical, and without integrity. how is inevitably manageable. >> well, it is manageable in the sense that we are dealing with with 300,000 refugees. on a yearly basis. we have a population of over 500 million. it should be possible, by reasonable means of distribution, and sharing of that responsibility, to deal with this number of people. in a way that affords with the humanitarian demands which they can legitimately
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make. so i think it is handleable. and in history, there has been many event which is have led to refugee crisis. and people have at the end of the day, taken the police choices that are necessary to conform with their moral obligations. >> you praised germany and other countries for the stances they have taken. having taken in so many refugees. you are critical of those countries that have perhapsed. but do you see the difference, or understand the difference between a wealthy country, such as germany, being able to do that, and the fear of a newly eamericaing hungary. that it might not be able to cope with this, do you think it is simply pandering to refugee hysteria. >> well, first of all, the commissioned proposal in regards to the conflicts are there should be a sharing out of refugees takes in account,
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unemployment, wealth per capita, in a way that should distribute fairly the shares across the union. so i think that that should be taken care of in the criteria that determines the shares that each should take. of course i understand that there is a fear particularly in the context of the terrible events that have happened in north africa, the rise of isis, and so on. there is a fear about migrants. having said that. i think we can overcome it. >> it is a question that has arisen a lot, which is if you arrive in greece, if you arrive in italy, as a refugee, and you are suppose to register there. but a lot of these people are say nothing we want to go on to germany, we want to go to sweden. in other words they want to go to a country that is safe, but that might be more
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comfortable for them, is that the not economic migration, rather than simple refugee status? >> i don't think it is. i think the reality is that the overwhelming number who come across the mediterranean, the largest number go to greece. the second largest number go to italy, and some of us who send ship down to save lives deposit the person -- >> what about these people in hungary, saying germany, germany. >> well, that's understandable. and why shouldn't they. and germany in many ways is the most welcoming next to sweden in terms of numbers. of countries in europe. and i think that's highly admirably. >> why are other arabic countries. the g.c.c., the bar rays the saudi arabia, these are arabic country, and they
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aren't taken -- beer ran has taken over 1,000. >> they absolutely do. and as has been said many times that they have an obligation, and they should take it. and, in fact, in making this point, this isn't a european problem. five refugee problem as it with vietnam many years ago, was shared by the world the united states, canada, various countries should be in on this. >> what is the justification when you talk to them and say you have an obligation here? what is their justification for not doing so? >> there is none. that i am aware of, that stands -- that holds water. >> what do they say. >> i have not had any answer on the issue as to why they are not taking more refugees. they would argue about the difficulties of employment, and their climate, and situation and so on. i have no doubt, but the
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reality is they have a responsibility. just as the rest of the world has. >> let me ask you about the u.k. t. the u.k. has not taken any syrian refugees but says we are putting a great deal of money in trying to solve their problems and any way, it is asaad's fault. it is the fault of the people in libya, es. that's what needs to be sorted. >> that's not an answer to a humanitarian probable. the fact that you are putting money into development or that you hope that you can over time stop wars. doesn't deal with the humanitarian crisis of the individual. who are being lost in the mediterranean, who are unemployed. who are driving up through europe, looking for a better life. to simply say, we are not going to be part of a sharing process, seems to me to be a response that doesn't comply
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with the solidarity you would expect within the european union. thank you for coming in. >> thousands of farmers and more than 1500 tractors have arrived in paris. some of the farmers say they have pretty much bankrupt and having to sell their produce for less than it costs to produce it. the government says lit mutt in 3.5 billion pounds. here is jackie. it is milking time in northern france. he does most of the work himself with help from his family. but despite working from dawn to night fall, he finds it difficult to get by.
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i love my work but the future looks dark. if you can't make a live from your work, then your heart doesn't beat. it is unbearable. >> it is a familiar story for farmers all over france. which is why they have rolled into paris on their tractors, to protest the rises costs and falling prices for their produce. many of the problems facing the farmers are global. but they say all the taxes, rules and regulations imposed by the french government, are making it even more difficult for them to compete on the marketplace. and when farmers complain, the government listens. the agricultural lobby is powerful, and politician ignore it at their peril. >> we must respond to the problem of debt which is at the heart of the drama for many farmers. moratorium, a complete hiatus of the debt for 2015 will be given to farmers.
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this is any increased effort on behalf of the banks and the state. >> they drove through the might to reach paris. and he says the trip has been well worth the effort. >> people are on the side of the road, taking photos some have come up to say we support you, that fills me with joy. >> but the farmers campaign doesn't stop here. they have other grievances this time, aimed at the european unions. they want changes to farming quote teas and e.u. regulations. and they will be taking those demands to brussells next week. jackie roland, al jazeera, paris. >> two british journalists have been released from prison after they were arrested for allegedly being members of isil. the vice news correspondent and cameron man phillip were arrested last week. they have been filming
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fighting between security forces and youth members of the prokurdish p.k.k. working with them are still being held, the news says his detentions is calling for his immediate release. china has marked the anniversary of the surrender at the end of world war ii. while beijing was displaying it's armed prowess the president said he was scaling back the military. made a pledge to cut 300,000 members of the army, will it be the third time they have cut the number since 1980's. here is adrian brown. >> not as president but
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commander and chief, and so use this occasion, his first parade since becoming head of state to announce a 50% cut in the size of the p.l.a., currently it is 2,300,000 strong, it is now going to be reduced by more than 300,000. analysts say there is a number of reasons for this, they want an army that is fit and modern, and he wants to concentrator more on the air force and the navy. which has implications for the current dispute in the south china, and east china seas. china was also sending out another message, we were on the winning side 70 years ago, and we will win again should any country ever dare to attack us. china has been showcasing it's latest hardware, in shooting missiles that onlyists say can reach guam. and also this parade is something of a marketing exercise, because china is currently the world's third
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largest arms ex-porter, and it hopes as a result of this parade, there will be many more sales. >> go to our website if you want to get the background, headlines too, that's all al jazeera.com, aljazeera.com. >> a judge sends kentucky clerk kim davis to jail for refusing to issue marriage licenses. pope turns to anguish. a train full of refugees finally leaves budapest, but the people onboard did not make it far. and donald trump meets with the republican brass, they want to promise that he won't run for the presidency as an independent.
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